Great video keep it up. I just lost a friend on FB because an ID podcast about the evolution of Metamorphosis the guy wasn't a evolutionary biologist had a phd in Philosophy ,EVERYTIME I've heard one of these claims it falls part with little research not to say that his whole talk was a logical fallacy and an argument from ignorance .
I was mentioning that there was no mention of jesus outside of the bible to a christian and he goes "yes there is, its in this encyclopedia". When I tried to point out that Zeus, Hathor and Odin were also there and that I meant during the timeperiod Jesus was supposed to be alive, the response was "I proved you wrong, take it up with the encyclopedia publishers". When you confront sheer stupidity at that scale there is no way to even hold a discussion with them.
The biggest annoyance for me is a flat out debate video that has both comments and ratings disabled. The creationists seem to be the worst offenders in this case.
One of the most annoying things about Christian video's is seeing that comment disclaimer "Comments may be upheld for approval". .. in other words, .. if you say something mildly critical, it won't get posted. Very few of them are honest and open, which is a shame because it would be great to have a back and forth friendly discussion with them.
I had a creationist I had to block. They were spamming a comment repeatedly, but the comment was only a series of assertion, no support. I told them I was going to remove the spamming since they were adding nothing to the discussion but I invited them to make a video response which I would approve. After doing so some of their other comments started disappearing (self-deletion I suspect) but they decided try and pretend they were a victim so they finally got blocked.
This guy StrivingForEternity blocked me when I tried to explain to him that Bartolomé de las Casas a 16th-century Dominican friar advocated the use of African slaves instead of Natives in the West-Indian colonies and was partly responsible for the beginning of the Transatlantic slave trade and not evolution because 'On the Origin of Species', was published in 1859, twenty-six [26] years after slavery was abolished in the UK & that evolution teaches homo sapiens originated in Africa.
I love apologists. Each time they cheat, edit, lie and silence rational arguments, they prove their position is untenable. They are "reductio ad absurdum" embodied in flesh.
Arghhhhh that pisses me off, the creationists that put a blatantly antagonistic title on the video then you click it, ratings are off comments are off, what are they afraid of? oh yeah, the truth.
@1:20 "Evolution is a fact" -- I think that is either an over-simplification or a misstatement on your part. Evolution is an accepted theory explaining biological diversity and speciation that is well supported by both experiments and evidence. Other than that, thanks for the work you've been putting into your videos.
TektonTV sets his posts for approval. He only allows approves dissenting comments if he feels he can 'destroy' their argument using his trademark name-calling, ad hominem attacks and insults.
I have been blocked a lot of times, often after the person posts a reply to my comment and acts like I gave up. In one case, I was blocked after ONE comment that was talking politely about his points.
That's priming. You see more anti atheist video because you are more aware of them. Try this experiment : notice how many red cars are on the streets; then try NOT to notice them; you'll a lot more of them suddenly.
I see this misconception often. It stems from a misunderstanding of the distinction between evolution and evolution theory. Evolution is a fact in that we observe it to happen, and to have happened. The theory of evolution is our best explanation of how it happens. I'm sorry if I mistook your words for a misconception, and I hope this helps if I'm not mistaken.
There's the famous joke about the t-rex and the elephant on facebook. Elephant: Hey t-rex, Noah added you to his friends list? T-rex: Nope.. Elephant: Sux!
I had the same thing happen to me but with some old white guy who deleted mine because I called him a coward and that he thought Obama was a sign of the "end times". Pfffft
Of course theists/creationists often have to control the dialogue. It's all they have. Religion boils down to bad language used on the ignorant. Any attempt to prove God boils down to an explanation, persuasive language, circular logic, etc. Anyone who can out-talk a theist/creationist must be silenced. However, some theist channels leave comments and ratings enabled, like Creation Today. They don't even censor out swearing. It's often like the O.K. Corral in the comments section.
I see the most bullshit comments on videos concerning evolution and creationism. The fact you decide to rant about different topics of that nature is great. I really like this upload. This comment section is also nice to visit every now and then.
evolution is a fact indeed. with that amount of evidence its a fact just like gravity is a fact since we have even more amounts of evidence. the theory of biological evolution tries to explain how it works, just as much as the theory of gravity tries to explain how gravity works, but with lesser success as the theory of evolution.
It was funny at the end of his posts he said:ever heard some one convinced against his will is of the same opinion still and I replied :ever heard there is a fool born every minute then he blocked me ....
Not a problem. We all work within the constraints of the language when we communicate. Evolution is the label we put on what we observe in nature, throughout the historical record, as well as the name of the scientific theory that explains what we observe. In our arguments and videos, we are making very specific assertions. Unlike Sye, we are trying to be as unambiguous as possible. fsx23 invited us to kvetch, so I did. I don't mind the banter over semantics.
I don't think you mentioned my most hated response... When you post a good comment against the video, the uploader replies to your comment with a misrepresentation of what you posted, and then deletes your comment while leaving his up front for all to see. They then of course block you so that you cannot normally come back to defend yourself. Whenever I find a reply from an uploader, and the comment that's being replied to is missing (not removed by its author), I lose respect for that uploader.
All i really want to say, is that everytime i hear a churchbell i feel offended! =) And i live in a contry where 85% of the population is Atheist or Agnostic. Go figure, religion has special protection, shit this makes me feel doubble offended!!!
The worst example of a dishonest creationist is shockdofgod. The guy is a huge liar first of all. I refuse to watch his videos. Because I know as soon as I make a comment he will delete it. I mean it's funny enough that he's a lying, projecting , hate filled liar. He needs to be thoroughly debunked. I think u should go after him fsx.
although you an I treat "evolution" as fact (a process that we observe), it is confusing if you conflate what happens to biological organisms in nature with the theory of evolution.
Why would he though, I got the feeling he considers you below his level since you barely can understand reason and logic... It makes me lol so hard. xD
Hey Daniel, I hear church bells till 11p.m. and they kinda irritate me too. That's funny u say that. I wish I had hells bells ringing back. Dont think my religious neighbours would appreciate that too much. So which country is 85% agnostic? Sounds like 'heaven' for atheists! Im kinda skeptical on that claim. Can any1 blame me? :D
I don't think that you, who has displayed nothing but honesty, integrity and openness, should sink to their level even as an example. We are Atheists who WANT to find out the truth - not christians who hide from the truth. Just my view.
At first I thought 'ah man, cmon fsx, don't be like they are', but by the end of the video I was like ' alright, fuck em.' The denial, dishonesty, and lack of acknowledging valid points just irritates the fuck out me. And this comment section is totally like a breath of fresh air. Good idea! And congrats on debating sye. U did great. He's a tough one to own. U had him squirming a few times there lol!
Here's a trick that shockofgod uses. Before deleting a comment you disagree with, reply to it. Let's say that I say "Evolution is false." and then you respond "Yes I agree with you, evolution is indeed true!" Then you delete my comment, leaving just your reply.
I can count on my hands the number of creationist TH-cam users who allow comments and ratings on their videos.
Great video keep it up. I just lost a friend on FB because an ID podcast about the evolution of Metamorphosis the guy wasn't a evolutionary biologist had a phd in Philosophy ,EVERYTIME I've heard one of these claims it falls part with little research not to say that his whole talk was a logical fallacy and an argument from ignorance .
Thanks for taking the time to make video. Universities should rescind PhDs of "scientists" who admit to being creationists
I was mentioning that there was no mention of jesus outside of the bible to a christian and he goes "yes there is, its in this encyclopedia". When I tried to point out that Zeus, Hathor and Odin were also there and that I meant during the timeperiod Jesus was supposed to be alive, the response was "I proved you wrong, take it up with the encyclopedia publishers".
When you confront sheer stupidity at that scale there is no way to even hold a discussion with them.
This whole concept is fantastic. As an atheist, I loved the whole video. This is the first video that I've ever seen of yours, but great job, fsx23.
The biggest annoyance for me is a flat out debate video that has both comments and ratings disabled. The creationists seem to be the worst offenders in this case.
Zero evidence of design, zero evidence of a designer. Relations fails on all levels.
well said.
This comment has DEEP philosophical implications...
Finally a little poetic justice.
One of the most annoying things about Christian video's is seeing that comment disclaimer "Comments may be upheld for approval". .. in other words, .. if you say something mildly critical, it won't get posted. Very few of them are honest and open, which is a shame because it would be great to have a back and forth friendly discussion with them.
I had a creationist I had to block. They were spamming a comment repeatedly, but the comment was only a series of assertion, no support. I told them I was going to remove the spamming since they were adding nothing to the discussion but I invited them to make a video response which I would approve.
After doing so some of their other comments started disappearing (self-deletion I suspect) but they decided try and pretend they were a victim so they finally got blocked.
what sye needs isn't a debate, but an intervention.
As AronRa said "Evolution is a FACT. How it works? now THATS the theory."
This guy StrivingForEternity blocked me when I tried to explain to him that Bartolomé de las Casas a 16th-century Dominican friar advocated the use of African slaves instead of Natives in the West-Indian colonies and was partly responsible for the beginning of the Transatlantic slave trade and not evolution because 'On the Origin of Species', was published in 1859, twenty-six [26] years after slavery was abolished in the UK & that evolution teaches homo sapiens originated in Africa.
I love apologists. Each time they cheat, edit, lie and silence rational arguments, they prove their position is untenable. They are "reductio ad absurdum" embodied in flesh.
Arghhhhh that pisses me off, the creationists that put a blatantly antagonistic title on the video then you click it, ratings are off comments are off, what are they afraid of? oh yeah, the truth.
@1:20 "Evolution is a fact" -- I think that is either an over-simplification or a misstatement on your part. Evolution is an accepted theory explaining biological diversity and speciation that is well supported by both experiments and evidence.
Other than that, thanks for the work you've been putting into your videos.
TektonTV sets his posts for approval. He only allows approves dissenting comments if he feels he can 'destroy' their argument using his trademark name-calling, ad hominem attacks and insults.
I have been blocked a lot of times, often after the person posts a reply to my comment and acts like I gave up.
In one case, I was blocked after ONE comment that was talking politely about his points.
That's priming. You see more anti atheist video because you are more aware of them.
Try this experiment : notice how many red cars are on the streets; then try NOT to notice them; you'll a lot more of them suddenly.
I just had that argument with a Christian. They accused me of twisting scripture and misunderstanding what it meant :-/
I bet he has a huge blocked list.
Also, I agree. I think you should tackle Shockofgod next.
Btw, love your videos. Keep up the good work.
I see this misconception often. It stems from a misunderstanding of the distinction between evolution and evolution theory.
Evolution is a fact in that we observe it to happen, and to have happened. The theory of evolution is our best explanation of how it happens.
I'm sorry if I mistook your words for a misconception, and I hope this helps if I'm not mistaken.
There's the famous joke about the t-rex and the elephant on facebook.
Elephant: Hey t-rex, Noah added you to his friends list?
T-rex: Nope..
Elephant: Sux!
No, that is the strange thing. For "Biblical" reasons they must have been on the ark. At least that is what I have found on Creationist's web sites.
I had the same thing happen to me but with some old white guy who deleted mine because I called him a coward and that he thought Obama was a sign of the "end times". Pfffft
Of course theists/creationists often have to control the dialogue. It's all they have. Religion boils down to bad language used on the ignorant. Any attempt to prove God boils down to an explanation, persuasive language, circular logic, etc. Anyone who can out-talk a theist/creationist must be silenced.
However, some theist channels leave comments and ratings enabled, like Creation Today. They don't even censor out swearing. It's often like the O.K. Corral in the comments section.
What answers has anyone heard from creationists about what did kill off the dinosaurs? Anything particularly crazy?
I see the most bullshit comments on videos concerning evolution and creationism. The fact you decide to rant about different topics of that nature is great. I really like this upload. This comment section is also nice to visit every now and then.
evolution is a fact indeed. with that amount of evidence its a fact just like gravity is a fact since we have even more amounts of evidence. the theory of biological evolution tries to explain how it works, just as much as the theory of gravity tries to explain how gravity works, but with lesser success as the theory of evolution.
It was funny at the end of his posts he said:ever heard some one convinced against his will is of the same opinion still and I replied :ever heard there is a fool born every minute then he blocked me ....
Not a problem. We all work within the constraints of the language when we communicate. Evolution is the label we put on what we observe in nature, throughout the historical record, as well as the name of the scientific theory that explains what we observe. In our arguments and videos, we are making very specific assertions. Unlike Sye, we are trying to be as unambiguous as possible.
fsx23 invited us to kvetch, so I did. I don't mind the banter over semantics.
I don't think you mentioned my most hated response...
When you post a good comment against the video, the uploader replies to your comment with a misrepresentation of what you posted, and then deletes your comment while leaving his up front for all to see. They then of course block you so that you cannot normally come back to defend yourself.
Whenever I find a reply from an uploader, and the comment that's being replied to is missing (not removed by its author), I lose respect for that uploader.
Just a Dutch perception, all creationist are fucking cocks. FSX23 I am with you. Keep on rocking.
I would mushroom stamp his mamma, in front of Big Joey.
He was the first person that ever blocked me on TH-cam :-)
"My channel is TH-cam's foremost stronghold of free speech"...you should say that at the top like 1GodOnlyOne does.
Creationists...
How did light come a few days BEFORE the the sun and stars were supposedly created?
All i really want to say, is that everytime i hear a churchbell i feel offended! =)
And i live in a contry where 85% of the population is Atheist or Agnostic.
Go figure, religion has special protection, shit this makes me feel doubble offended!!!
Thank you, That is pretty crazy.
The worst example of a dishonest creationist is shockdofgod. The guy is a huge liar first of all. I refuse to watch his videos. Because I know as soon as I make a comment he will delete it. I mean it's funny enough that he's a lying, projecting , hate filled liar. He needs to be thoroughly debunked. I think u should go after him fsx.
It seems to me that the bible myths are typical fishermans' stories, in more ways than one for the new testament stuff.
cheers
You almost had me until i read the last part XD
He's having trouble finding a barber to trim his beard, gotta keep up appearances if you're the big guy...=]
although you an I treat "evolution" as fact (a process that we observe), it is confusing if you conflate what happens to biological organisms in nature with the theory of evolution.
Why would he though, I got the feeling he considers you below his level since you barely can understand reason and logic...
It makes me lol so hard. xD
Hey Daniel, I hear church bells till 11p.m. and they kinda irritate me too. That's funny u say that. I wish I had hells bells ringing back. Dont think my religious neighbours would appreciate that too much. So which country is 85% agnostic? Sounds like 'heaven' for atheists! Im kinda skeptical on that claim. Can any1 blame me? :D
I don't think that you, who has displayed nothing but honesty, integrity and openness, should sink to their level even as an example.
We are Atheists who WANT to find out the truth - not christians who hide from the truth.
Just my view.
Is it possible that anybody actually believes a god exists?
At first I thought 'ah man, cmon fsx, don't be like they are', but by the end of the video I was like ' alright, fuck em.' The denial, dishonesty, and lack of acknowledging valid points just irritates the fuck out me. And this comment section is totally like a breath of fresh air. Good idea! And congrats on debating sye. U did great. He's a tough one to own. U had him squirming a few times there lol!
i can keep this up for years LMFAO
All part of the parody.
Who the F..c gives you thumbs down?
They died in Noah's flood. Didn't you know?
Here's a trick that shockofgod uses. Before deleting a comment you disagree with, reply to it. Let's say that I say "Evolution is false." and then you respond "Yes I agree with you, evolution is indeed true!" Then you delete my comment, leaving just your reply.
All the zombies you see today are the same ones Jesus raised in the Gospel of Matthew. There's your evidence. '-)
haha, I like how you're rubbing it in to them. :D
Cool experiment Bro
Like your style new sub!
:-D LOL