Air Mattress Pros and Cons for Car Camping (+ Luno Life Signature Air Mattress Review)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ส.ค. 2019
- In this video I talk about the pros and cons of air mattresses in general for car camping and then review the Luno Life Signature Air Mattress. Is It worth the $190 asking price? Are air mattresses in general worth getting for your car camping adventures?
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** Luno Life Signature Air Mattress: lunolife.com/products/signatu...
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Sorry this week's video was a bit late, but I was busy traveling. Also, I'll be doing a Q&A video in the next month or so, so reply to this comment with a question and I'll try to answer it. Anyway, here's the link to the mattress lunolife.com/products/signature-air-mattress if you want to buy it, and you can use the coupon code SUVRVING10 to get an additional 10% off (but I don't think that works when it's on sale, like it currently is). I don't get any money or kickback if you buy it. Thanks for watching! -Tristan
Good review, Tristan. So my question is about the Rav4. Do you still have it? If so, why aren't you using it?
Hi Tristan. Would you be willing to do a review of a product I make? It's a cover for typically intex mattresses which does a few things. 1) prevents holes and pet friendly 2) reduces the stresses in the seams so the mattress lasts a long time 3) prevents sides of mattress from bowing out with body weight which is typically the reason behind back ache's in the morning. I call it the tensioned mattress cover if you wanted to find my site.
Probably not. I don't do too many reviews. But use the contact form at suvrving.com to send me more info about it and a link to the product.
Perfect description. "You dont feel like you're laying on a inflatable pool toy." Thanks for mentioning that foam is hot. Texas can be hot and humid.
The fact that you're flat up and honest is amazing. I respect that and that you don't say its amazing and wonderful just because they gave one to you. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the review! We’re glad you and your wife were able to use the Signature Air Mattress and utilize the dual-sides. Happy to see you customized your level of comfort and didn't disturb your partner with these small features! We spent a lot of time developing this product, so thank you for the kind words on the quality of the product and fabric, too!
We appreciate the feedback on the space cubes, which we now call our “base extenders”. To utilize these effectively, we recommend you push your front seats all the way forward, creating a gap of 12+ inches (depending on your vehicle). This way you can install the base extenders in that space and pull the mattress topper forward - utilizing more head space (important for the taller folks)! But we totally agree that these can be left at home and replaced with gear or storage bins, if you prefer.
Thanks for the the feedback on the price, too. Please note that this price includes the mattress topper (full mattress size), 2 base extenders, the electric air pump, carrying case, and repair kit. We include it as a system to ensure you’re set up with everything you need from the get-go. No buying the pump or repair kit separately for an additional price.
Anyway, the Signature Air Mattress looks great in your vehicle! Happy to hear that you’ll use it again. Thanks again and safe travels!
can you use the base extenders for anything else? picnic seating perhaps?
I'm shopping for a mattress to use in my Pruis. I have a piece of wood to extend the platform and I'm not spending money on 2 square beachballs that I don't need. Why in the world would people fill up valuable storage space with air? Do you camp? Your mattress is overpriced to start with and there's more competition every day. Today's price for my car is $330! $350 if I add the lifetime warranty! No thanks.
I could listen to you all day long. Very well spoken and very efficient in terms of the time you take to explain and demonstrate. I have a tri-fold mattress and it's great in winter. Will buy an inflatable for summer.
Great review! For folks who want the contour without the cost, we used a basic full size air mattress in our Subaru Outback for 20,000+ miles and it conformed beautifully to the contours of the car when inflated in place. At 57+, I wanted the comfort of a real bed so used a foam topper, fitted mattress pad and regular sheets/bedding. We deflated it each morning, smoothing out the bedding before pulling the plug. When reinflated each night, the bed was already made. We had most of our stuff in plastic underbed boxes, which we slipped under the deflated bed while traveling and stacked on the passenger seat at night, keeping our stuff immobile and out of sight while driving.
Try an Exped Megamat. It is. better than many bed mattresses.
The cubes are an interesting idea. I just don't think anyone who car camps is not going to fill up just about every nook and cranny with gear. So the problem is, the perfectly shaped cube that works for the bed is wasted space, but your gear isn't likely to fill the space evenly. The solution? Dry bag. We use these in kayaking. For my skin on frame kayak you can't have bulkheads, you need air bags to fill as much of the fore and aft space as possible. These bags have both a valve and a roll top (like a dry bag stuff sack) So you can fill them with gear, roll them up and seal them, then inflate them the extra bit to fill up the space. This would be the solution for these cubes. Maybe keep rain gear in them, or city clothes you won't need in the woods. And if you have an inflator air pump you can just use them for anything.
The one solution to every sleep problem, and this is totally subjective, is stay awake for 20+ hours or longer. You can then sleep anywhere, on anything. I once worked a movie where we were shooting nights. I'd get back to my studio about 7 am and by 9 am I'd be wide awake. So I'd shower and go into the office. By Thursday that week I could sleep standing up and be instantly awake if my name were called.
After removing the back seats in my 2003 Honda CRV (the 2nd. gen. has more head room), I spent weeks trying to come up with a sleeping arrangement that would work for my husband and I. Cold transfer and (as you mentioned) air mattress movement when one can't sleep was a big issue. So...my husband first custom cut 2 inch. wall insulation to fit around the wheel well and cover the space (once the seats are moved forward, although we didn't need to move them all the way forward, so we could put food cooler inside at night). Like you, I like the storage space in the back foot area and so I used plastic bins that hold things and help to bring the area level. As we like to sleep with our heads a bit more elevated, I put an extra 2 in. foam piece on top of the bins (one could also use an unfolded Lifetime table on top of the bins to keep things level). I used cheap vinyl tablecloths to cover the foam board. This handled the cold transfer from the base of the car to us. Then I put two Klymet sleeping bag pads (they make narrow ones that fit in between the narrowest gap from wheel wells. On top of this I put a two inch, full sized memory foam mattress (didn't need to cut it because having it curve up the wheel wells a bit also adds insulation from cold plastic). For most people this is plenty of comfort and warmth. However, I have several points of arthritis (due to Lupus) and so I added another layer of memory foam. It sounds like a lot, but comes together and comes apart easily, I was still able to fit everything else we needed for camping (including a large Springbar tent which we didn't really need), and both my husband and I could sit up in the bed if we needed to. I am 5'7" and he is 5'9" so it worked for us in a CRV (someday we hope to have something bigger). We tested it out at Altruas Lake in Idaho where it got about 10 degs F cooler than predicted. Is it better than sleeping on a great quality air mattress with a Little Buddy heater in our tent? Well, no, not quite. But, we were plenty warm (with a good comforter on top), not too crowded, and heck, it was kind of fun. I have seen the Luno Life mattresses before, but I thought they were not making them anymore, so your video was very interesting. I am always wary of camping in bear country, ha, but if I had remembered the heater, we probably would have opted for the tent. If I was travelling alone however, I would absolutely use this set up to sleep in my CRV. Thanks for the video, gave us something to think about.
Thank you for the excellent and thorough review! After lots of back and forth and research into SIMs, I still ended up buying the Luno Life for my Crosstrek. This is nothing but my opinions...but here are the reasons:
1. At current prices, one Thermarest self-inflating mattress (SIM) pad costs from $130 to $180 each, depending on model and features. Since I'd need two SIMs to cover the same space as the Lumo, a two SIM solution isn't cheaper than the current Luno price. (EXPED DUO SIMs are $300, too.)
2. Self-inflating mattress pads are incredible, and they pack up better than a bunch of foam! But SIMs also puncture. Once punctured, the SIM is also squashed flat by body weight, leaving an R value of probably 2. :)
3. The material of the Luno seems to be a lot more rugged than that of pretty much any of the leading SIMs...which also puncture. I've read reviews of SIM buyers who've had punctures, without a warranty replacement. I don't know if a SIM is less prone to punctures than a rugged air mattress.
4. I purchased the "Luno Lifetime Warranty" for $20. If I do get a puncture and need the warranty, I will report back if I encounter customer support challenges in redeeming the warranty.
5. Since space in the Crosstrek is at a premium, I think the Luno will make the most complete and structured use of the available cargo surface area for me to sleep diagonally...with one doggie on either side. I think a couple of SIMs would slide around more than the Luno...which seems pretty stable when inflated. The EXPED DUO SIM would cover lots of space, but not as much as the more custom-fitted Luno.
6. Air mattress insulation stinks...but folks who uses an air mattresses learn to throw some blankets and sleeping bags on top.
7. The inflatable cube things were not really a factor in my decision.
So how has it been
Thanks for the review on the air matt.
I'm looking for a mattress for my suv and I really respect your advice. The search continues. Thanks !
After upgrading from a 2 person to a stand up in 6 person Cabellas I elected to get a high profile airbed. After my first camping trip I now include my closed cell mattress to separate me from the cold airbed. Plus if and when airbed fails I will have a backup sleeping system. I've used a therapist self inflating for decades, still use it backpacking. The airbed with a closed cell mattress is my personal favorite and comfort. When I use my tent. If I need to sleep in back of Envoy I simply use closed cell mattress. It .75" thick. To transport I simply lay it out under other gear and I only lose that .75" height I never miss.
Great info you put out in this video.
Very thorough review Tristan. It’s nice that it fits the dimensions of the interior of your car but it’s very expensive just the way it is. If it was insulated, I might consider purchasing something like this. Thanks for the honest review
Very good honest review. I gave up sleeping in the Grand Cherokee in favor of a tent because of the head room issue.(I am getting too old to scrunch over). So when I have to sleep in the truck due to weather or whatever, I use foam. In the tent I have a very nice air mattress.($60) It is a subjective thing. Also, the method of inflating is an issue. The best answer is a rechargeable pump, then a battery("D" cell) pump, then a 110 volt using an inverter from the cig lighter in car. Cheaper mattresses are a waste of time Large people likely wont like an air mattress for the car.
they are currently charging $330 for this product for a Subaru Crosstrek. $270 for other vehicles
they can tell me it’s a premium product all they want but there’s a limit to what i’m willing to pay for “premium” inflatable
$225 USD! I'm gonna pass. Really enjoyed your review and pros and cons. I've been using a $40 air mattress for tent camping for years, really comfy. Looking for a decent trifold foam mattress for when I convert my Rainier into a mini camper
Drexldog did you find the trifold mattress that you like?
@@abedj1220 Yes. A couple of years ago. 4 inch memory foam, from a store called JYSK (not sure if they have those in the US). Last I looked though, they didn't carry them any longer.
Great review. Thank you for covering pro/con points as well.
Therm-a-rest has my loyalty. Can't imagine spending $190 on this setup without some level of insulation built in.
Valuable advice, thanks so much!
I have tried various forms of mattresses in my GMC Acadia, though I have never used an air mattress for the lack of warmth. This summer I bought a low cot to try it out because the room underneath seemed like it would provide valuable storage, which it does. I still put my self inflating pad on top of the cot so headroom is significantly reduced. I'm still not sure whether I am happier with extra storage or more headroom! The cot is comfy though, more give than the floor of the vehicle.
I experienced the same thing with an air mattress when camping at my brothers tree house. The Sams 8 " air in mattress was comfortable and convenient with a built in pump but is cold, thank god for the wood stove. It's still much more comfortable than a Army cot which I experienced before.
Just an update on the price of that mattress they’re $329 as of August 4, 2022, for a 2018 RAV4
Cool that these didn't go up in price due to inflation like basically everything else since then
Great review Trist. I enjoyed it. I have a Kamptie self inflating foam sleeping pad for my 2014 Honda Pilot.
Slide your front seat forward and then the space cubes become valuable. I’m 6’6” and have to have those cubes.
He said in a previous podcast that he slides the front seat forward.
wonder if those space cubes can be used as chairs
Monkey D. Lucy not by an adult. They don’t have enough rigidity. A small child might be able to use it as a chair though.
Thanks for the Video I was going to buy one for our 2021 RAV4 $279.99 they are nuts!
Wife and I tested that out. Oh, you don't mean in that way. I can say air mattresses do work for that activity, but I probably wouldn't get too crazy. I prefer air mattresses in general, but you make a good point about the cold. Though I generally use a sleeping bag, so I have insulation underneath me as well.
I bought a Luno mattress and I love it! For my 2017 Subaru Impreza, the inflatable blocks are essential in order for ample sleeping room!
Thanks for sharing 😎
Nice honest review
Thanks for the candid and honest review. I just use my thermarest for both tent and car camping. I'm not a fan of the size. My pad is small enough, and I'm able to use more space from my trunk (have an outback).
Thanks for watching
Good honest review on the product. I thought the same thing when I first saw this with those space cubes, that is valuable real estate in a vehicle for that and really not needed IMO. Think it would be a good option to tell them separately, guess they could be used as a chair. ;)
I tried a cheap air mattress and it was terrible! When I moved into my Ford Transit van I bought a queen sized 4 inch thick topper, cut it in half down the middle and it works fine.
You have a wonderful setup!
I like using a thin, regular bed mattress in my Highlander, but I like the inflatable cubes to fill the floor space. I removed the headrests from the second row seats and just leave them out of the SUV. My Highlander is a 2017 and the third row seat headrests don't get in the way when the seats are folded, so they are still installed.
I have been having trouble sitting on hard chairs since I was sick for awhile,no pillow or cushion seem to help.i tried a "Purple" cushion,they make mattresses,and it is wonderful.its a silicone product with a cover.never goes flat ,gets hot or cold.their bed mattresses may be what you are looking for.try their seat cushion for driving,you may like it.
Any off gasing when new. And when older?
I have a regular futon mattress that works great for me. I fold it up during the day. But I'm not sure if I still want it, because I'm going tent camping in lake Tahoe in my Ford escape. Wondering if I should get this flatable mattress 🤔🛌
I get called a glamper but I can't enjoy the beauty of nature unless I've had more than a couple hours of sleep. A nice comfortable sleep system is essential to my enjoyment of a camping trip. I can't imagine giving up my air mattresses.
That's called gatekeeping. They should be ashamed and you shouldn't give them an ounce of your energy caring about what they think!
I wish these were still $200. They are selling for over $300 now!
We have one and used it since last May. We will not return for any other mattresses. By the way, you installed the mattress upside down in your video. Also the cube too.
do you have a video that shows how to make the piece of wood to bridge the gap??
Good review! The cost would keep me from considering it. I love/hate my air mattress (just a cheap Coleman). Too cold in winter and takes up a lot of head room, but it's quite comfortable when it's warm.
I haven't noticed your solar set-up during your last few trips, (did I just miss it?). Do you find it's not necessary on trips less than a week or so?
Nice video and review. I'm also of the mind that an air mattress is not for me. My solution is neither air nor foam, but rather a cot. I'm lucky that the Helinox Cot Lite fits perfect behind the drivers (the 60 side of the 60/40 split) seat scooched up. When is cold I augment it with a self-inflating pad. Since both are backpacker-type items they break down very compactly. One huge benefit of the cot over a pad is being able to ride over minor bumps and holes in the same way a bridge does. Both in the car as in a tent.
Do you think a regular full size air mattress will fit?
It would be really fabulous if there was some sort of a heating system you could run underneath your mattress in the winter, to keep you warm. Although I don't know how you would do that without draining your car battery
I use a queen size air mattress in my full size van. I place a moving mat on top of the air mattress to prevent the dog from damaging the air mattress.
Excellent review! Confirmed a few thoughts I thought about the insulation and the separate chambers cutting down on disturbing your partner. I will use it as a single most of the time, and most of the time it will be in the Northern Rockies. The best pad for just me would be the Megamat by Big Agnes which is self inflating foam and insulated. For two people? Unsure of those 2/3rds split 1/3
Thank you so much for your honest review. Climate change/elevation in Alaska, I think I’ll pass and keep searching for the right fit :) thanks again for saving me about $400 with shipping.
I got a chuckle out of the "Pool Toy" comment. Oh how I hated sleeping on those. I have always used the blue foam pads but I guess I'm getting old, I was very uncomfortable on my last camping trip. So. I read your book and picked up some good tips and have watched your videos, but my recent trip to Maine. was a bit of a disaster. I got my car all rigged up fine, but I couldn't find any place to park overnight. Every place I stopped had a lot of signs about overnight parking. I stayed at a state park for a few nights and then had to turn around and head home. New Hampshire wasn't much better. Any suggestions?
Kurt M. Well, my car is pretty old, and I have out of state plates, so not exactly stealthy. I did a lot of research online before I left about places to sleep, but everywhere I went I was met with very new-looking “No overnight parking” signs.
Personal con to air mattresses is the setup. It is easier to roll up a sponge mattress which will insulate better - sure it may be a bit more bulky - but at the end of the day, and you are super tired, the last thing you want to do is to blow up or inflate a mattress unless you are backpacker and you have no other choice.
Good review. The cubes would be good if you only sleep in your car once a year. I wouldn't use them.
I have a 2004 RX330. It's the equivalent to the Highlander. Both on a Camry chasis. However, my car is chopped off at an angle in the rear and have lost valuable space. I wish that I had bought the Highlander.
Thats look nice
The price is the killer i was really interested in buying this then the price made me laugh .
I agree $100.00 would be ok for this product .
I paid $129 for a REI single pad air mattress....it is a good mattress and so I think it is worth it...so, to me, that mattress seems really nice option for two people
Didn't see where you can plug in the make and model of your vehicle--website only showed about 5 or 6 different sized mattresses.
Try an Exped Megamat Duo. It is rated to -40 F. You will sleep like sleeping on bed mattress at home and you can put in a snowdrift and with good sleeping bag, not feel cold coming from ground. In the car, it is even better.
Oh, shoot, forgot one more thing. I put any memory foam mattress we use in a zippered, waterproof, cover that is soft on one side and plastic on the other. Bought it from Walmart so its easy to find.
Tell me about foam mattresses please
Try using a closed cell pad under air mattress for insulation. That’s what most folks do to insulate air mattresses.
Having it under the air mattress wouldn't do any good in this case. You'd need to put it on top of the air mattress. Thanks for watching.
Sounds great, I’d love to get a Honda Odyssey and air mattress
Personally I'm gonna need the spacer blocks in my niro because it's small but I'd buy them separate if I had to if it saved others money
They don’t have one for a Jeep Renegade:-(. I like the “space blocks”. Excellent idea
Thanks Joel, glad you liked the video.
There are a lot of inflatable mattresses that are insulated, if you look at backpacking specific pads.
Yes, but this video was not a review of those pads. Thanks for watching!
Just visited the LUNO web site and the price is now $279.00 for the version 2.
For $20.00 they offer a life time warranty. It appears that just over a year that the price doubled.
I have a 2019 outback, and like the Idea of the double full size mattress, but over the years of camping with the family with young kids, we had a high mortality rate with air mattresses. Kids being kids. Air leaks are really hard to find, let alone patch. Especially when in wilderness conditions. We usually had to borrow someone's swimming pool to locate a slow leak.
Now that the kids are grown, I am on the fence on this product. Like the idea of small storage foot print, but the price seems really excessive. I agree that the cubes should be optional.
Now it's $360
Personally my experience with air mattresses is they get punctured too easily no matter how careful you are. Repairs are 50-50 if they work for any long term. I would rather have more durability, therefore foam for me.
Used Coleman air mattress queen size for tent camping at the beach with my GF slept good and even held up to our vigorous boom boom session
What’s your dream vehicle for car camping?
Wow the price is now $330. And agree with the spacers are a waste. I have boxes that fit in behind the seats
How tall are you?
325 for the Forester
I understand that they are not a big company and they probably don't sell these products that many...but then $180~$190 for an air mattress without insulation? That's just insane.
Is the Luno life mattress made in China?
Lumos have practically NO 4runner products....fyi. love the idea tho
Four years after this video price is now 329.00. It's too bad it looks like something I would get but, not now.
Same thing happens with footballs, lolol .
Price is $329 right now. Doubled in a year?!
They are now $279 !!!!!
Did you really say (at about 4:10) "air doesn't insulate"? Air is one of the best insulators! That's why an igloo is efficient (air in the snow). That's why layers are efficient, etc.
I came to the comments for this specifically. The giant in-door ski/snowboard building in Dubai's desert is insulated with... You guessed it, AIR!
They want 300+ now
The key is they gave it to you. Sadly, I want their product but they don't offer personal customer service. There is nobody who will speak with you over the phone, which is a deal breaker.
A Luno person called me today and I'm greatful.
How about grateful. Ha.
Scam- the "custom fit to your vehichle model" is a scam. Purchased 4 Luno different air mattresses for 4 different vehicle models as gifts for my family. The order arrived, All items are identical. As of this writing, no response from Luno.
Its $224.99 now lol
Its $329.99 now lol
$325 rofl for a air mattress
这车够大床很棒👍👻🉐✅🉐🎄🎉🎊
lol that shit is $330 now
Right. I’ve tried reaching out twice this weekend to the company and they don’t respond (comments on Instagram) to verify shipping as it says “free” but charges you a flat $50? I wanted to purchased this weekend since they had a discount code but decided after no response AND they had time to make Memorial Day sale posts without responding…likely not customer service I’d want now or in the future. Hard pass.
More lookie, less talkie
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Too long for an air mattress
Space blocks are a waste of space. You could store a lot of stuff there instead of filling it up with thee blocks. Totally non pratical and useless.
Carry super glue and a patch for air mattresses