@@newtonslogic It's more of a prototype at this point and I think I'm going to change the 25 degree compound miter to be even steeper. Which means I need to recalculate everything. I'll make detailed plans once it's beyond the "trial and error" phase.
That’s an impressive amount of dedication! Awesome work, and great looking stars. My brain would have literally melted trying to figure that out. Thank you for putting an equal amount of effort into explaining the process.
Greatly appreciated this video. I’ve tried and gotten quite frustrated over trial and error on making these 3D stars. Ended up quitting and move on to other projects. This is a great video with adequate detail. Thank you!
@Bentleyschimmel-vg7dk I also quit several times. Took me about a year of trial and error before I had something that seemed like it could work. Now it's smooooooth sailing lol.
You did a nice job explaining how you made those stars and jigs! I’ll have to make one now cause I’ve always wanted to make some! 😁 Your stars turned out awesome! Thank you for sharing your work!
This is incredible . I love the thought process . Especially as I have no idea where to start such processes . Thank you I’m waiting with anticipation for jig plans . I’d happily buy such plans
@@savvybuildsplease do, that was SHARP. About 23 years ago i made jigs for 3d stars for my radial arm saw. I sure do wish i still had them, back then it didnt make my brain hurt so bad to do all the math
I really hope you put together the plans for building this jig. Always enjoy the way you explain the reasons for what you do and also mention your mistakes.
The start came out beautiful by the time you got all of your angles dialed in! Great work. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and talent. I'm definitely thinking of building a jig for this.
Great projects for a project. Thank you for sharing your experience of patience...it turned out awesome. 1st time viewer and was pleasantly surprised. Now I need to subscribe. 😊 Andrew
Jigs are certainly the key. I like how you didn't go down the route of making the jig too complicated as it's all about the finished product and not the jig. I was thinking that before you start cutting the angles you could router the straight edges on the 11" x 4" blanks so the finished product looks even more star spangled.
I recently made a similar jig for the table saw that used a cedar picket to make a 3D star. Lots of trial and error. I used superglue to glue my star together. It works well. My jigs are not adjustable and that limits me to one size star. I do like your idea of the 25 degree holes for the mini dowels and often use bamboo skewers for that purpose. If you have a star that is a little loose when you glue it together it is possible to hand plane or sand the last edge to get it to fit. Thank you for sharing.
I really enjoyed this video, thank you, you've earned another Subscriber 🙂 To me, I actually liked the star more when it had the inner star. Personal preference ;-)
You know what would make this star POP ? When you showed us the first star when trying to make the pieces fit, there was a small concave star in the middle, which looked really cool, If you could pick her out how to make the pieces fit together perfectly but also keeping the metal star within the 3D star, I think that would look really unique.
Here is the equation (for one of the ten triangles) : starting angle = atan(tan(final angle)/cos(bevel angle)). So with final angle at 18° to get a perfect star, and bevel angle at 25°, the starting angle is 19.72°. Thats prety close to the one you found experimentaly at 19.5°.
@gafahz Oh wow thank you! I was starting to think I'd never receive the answer. I'll write this down and try to learn it some day. Do you know of any good text books that can teach me this stuff?
I really like the little stars in the middle. I don’t know if I can wait for your jig video I might try making one before hand. 😅 Weird idea may be good may not. I personally would experiment and join two stars together back to back and one have the little star in it. Could you make nautical stars with this using two different types(colors) of woods?
I will try to make a nautical star in the future...I would probably need to cut two 9 degrees wedges for an 18 degree point. The only issue I forsee are the clamps getting in the way of the blade gaurd but maybe I'll get lucky again. Only one way to find out!
Excellent video! I was able to make a close duplication of your jig between a picture & your narrative. Using it for the first cuts & then making the last cut with stop blocks right now. Question for you, since you’re the resident mathematician in this group how do I make a larger star? I’m obviously limited on the miter saw so I’ve tried making a sliding jig for the table saw. A 1x4 will only make one just so large so is it just a matter of using the same dims with a wider piece of lumber?
Hey! That's great to hear! So the 1x4 is pretty much the maximum size for cutting the first angle with this jig however, the second part of the jig can cut much bigger with stop block moved outwards. In order to make a 3d star using a 1x6 would require you to make the compound cut (same angles) on a table saw with a sliding sled. Then glue the two pieces together. Then go back to the miter saw to cut the inner angles. There should be enough room if you have a massive miter saw like mine. I don't think you can cut the inner angles on the table saw because the blade probably wont go high enough. I hope this helps. I actually already started making a simple table saw sled for this reason. I want bigger! Have a great day!
As a follow up, took your advise & devised a couple of sleds for the table saw to cut both the outer & then inner angles. Used the same basic principles you taught for the 1x4 & incorporated them for a 1x6. Felt safer on the table saw cutting the larger pieces. The 1x6 went so well that I duplicated the sled to accommodate a 1x10 to make a star for the front of my son’s barn. It equates to a star being 54” across! Since I’m in a wheelchair I’m having to paint each point one at a time & then assemble it. Otherwise I can’t reach the middle of the star to properly paint it. Thanks again for your informative video, making these stars has been fun!!!
Others here noted this is by far the easiest approach to 3D stars to follow... I've burnt out my math neuron, though, so no offer of a magical equation from me. That said, and someone below pointed out, if you're doing a 5-point star and using a 90-degree (blade not tilted over for a compound cut) approach on the second jig, wouldn't the angle have to be 22.5 degrees? Then the shims would only be needed to adjust the overall length of your point part (to keep or eliminate the second little star)...? Also - you do realize that you almost made tiny Star Destroyers, right?
Are you wanting to make a 2d star without the bevel? If so the angles to the inner part of the star would be the same but the first Jig would have to be set to 18 degrees. In this video I am cutting a 36 degree angle. 36 x 2 = 72 degrees (72 x 5 = 360) which gives me the angles needed for a 5 point star to fit together accurately. I cut the triangular pieces for the jig on my miter saw at 54 degrees but it actually gives me a 36 degree angle when I make the cut with this set up. Hope this helps. This stuff can get very confusing! Cheers!
Waiting in anticipation for the jig design plans….😊
Oh my, that looks wonderful. Do you have any measurements for jig@savvybuilds
Alll the measurements and angles have been worked out....laying out the jig plans should be a couple of hours of drawing them out?
@@savvybuilds Here's your geometry of a 3D star you asked about. th-cam.com/video/N7hckWV84pM/w-d-xo.html
@@newtonslogic It's more of a prototype at this point and I think I'm going to change the 25 degree compound miter to be even steeper. Which means I need to recalculate everything. I'll make detailed plans once it's beyond the "trial and error" phase.
I would really like drawings when available. 😅
Thanks,
Lester
Much better explanation than I've seen before. That guy used sine etc & sounded dry as biscuit . Well done
That’s an impressive amount of dedication! Awesome work, and great looking stars. My brain would have literally melted trying to figure that out. Thank you for putting an equal amount of effort into explaining the process.
Greatly appreciated this video. I’ve tried and gotten quite frustrated over trial and error on making these 3D stars. Ended up quitting and move on to other projects. This is a great video with adequate detail. Thank you!
@Bentleyschimmel-vg7dk I also quit several times. Took me about a year of trial and error before I had something that seemed like it could work. Now it's smooooooth sailing lol.
You did a nice job explaining how you made those stars and jigs! I’ll have to make one now cause I’ve always wanted to make some! 😁 Your stars turned out awesome! Thank you for sharing your work!
No prob! Thanks for watching. I hope it helps!
@@savvybuilds It sure did! 👌
How do we build the jig? How to cut all parts on the jig?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with me. Your a great guy.
This is incredible .
I love the thought process . Especially as I have no idea where to start such processes . Thank you
I’m waiting with anticipation for jig plans . I’d happily buy such plans
That's great the plans are now available on my patreon :)
Plans would be great I definitely buy a set! 😊
he just gave you all of the info 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Nicely done! And as a Texan, I absolutely see this jig/project in my future for some 3D stars on a large wooden shop flag! :). Thanks so much!
Kinda looked good with the star in the middle too
I know what you mean. I found that interesting as well. It's yet another option I might play around with in the future.
@@savvybuildsplease do, that was SHARP. About 23 years ago i made jigs for 3d stars for my radial arm saw. I sure do wish i still had them, back then it didnt make my brain hurt so bad to do all the math
Very cool. Takes a LOT of patience to figure out those angles and bevels. Enjoyed watching.
I really hope you put together the plans for building this jig. Always enjoy the way you explain the reasons for what you do and also mention your mistakes.
The start came out beautiful by the time you got all of your angles dialed in! Great work. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and talent. I'm definitely thinking of building a jig for this.
Thank you! Cheers!
WOW, that was Great to watch your process, thanks for sharing
Will definitely be having a go at this....Thanks for sharing.
I appreciate your explanations. I like to know the 'why' behind the design. Thank you!
Glad you liked it! Wasn't easy sorting it all out but worth the effort in the end. Thanks for watching!
Brilliant video explaining how to make these 3D stars, you won’t find better anywhere on TH-cam.
Mate, Great narration!
Cheers for doing the hard yards.
These look awesome
Thanks!
Thanks for doing all the thinking for me. Ill definitely be making one of those
No prob! Thanks for watching!
Great projects for a project. Thank you for sharing your experience of patience...it turned out awesome. 1st time viewer and was pleasantly surprised. Now I need to subscribe. 😊 Andrew
Awesome star ! I’m having a tough time making these
It's not easy! How did you make out?
Jigs are certainly the key. I like how you didn't go down the route of making the jig too complicated as it's all about the finished product and not the jig. I was thinking that before you start cutting the angles you could router the straight edges on the 11" x 4" blanks so the finished product looks even more star spangled.
Excellent build
These stars are amazing!!
Absolutely freakishly amazing 😂❤🎉
My goodness, that's very savvy 👍
Thanks!
wow thanks
I recently made a similar jig for the table saw that used a cedar picket to make a 3D star. Lots of trial and error. I used superglue to glue my star together. It works well. My jigs are not adjustable and that limits me to one size star. I do like your idea of the 25 degree holes for the mini dowels and often use bamboo skewers for that purpose. If you have a star that is a little loose when you glue it together it is possible to hand plane or sand the last edge to get it to fit. Thank you for sharing.
great video and commentary,,,,
Thanks!
awesome now idea's on painting star
Thanks very good Sean Ireland Keep up The Good Work
Clear video. Thank you
Excellent content
I really enjoyed this video, thank you, you've earned another Subscriber 🙂 To me, I actually liked the star more when it had the inner star. Personal preference ;-)
Thanks! I know what you mean. The star in the middle does kind of look cool.
You know what would make this star POP ?
When you showed us the first star when trying to make the pieces fit, there was a small concave star in the middle, which looked really cool, If you could pick her out how to make the pieces fit together perfectly but also keeping the metal star within the 3D star, I think that would look really unique.
INCREDIBLE!!!! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
What a great build :)
You have a very nice set up ! Well thought out! I use my table saw for that type of work. I am not smart enough to use a miter saw? LOL!
Here is the equation (for one of the ten triangles) :
starting angle = atan(tan(final angle)/cos(bevel angle)).
So with final angle at 18° to get a perfect star, and bevel angle at 25°, the starting angle is 19.72°. Thats prety close to the one you found experimentaly at 19.5°.
@gafahz Oh wow thank you! I was starting to think I'd never receive the answer. I'll write this down and try to learn it some day. Do you know of any good text books that can teach me this stuff?
Have you thought of making your 8 point star into a 4 point star with the long tail ??
Cool
Great Idee, Great Job!
Hello magnifique de précision 👍 c’est possible de sous titrer en français mille merci et bravo 👍
I really like the little stars in the middle. I don’t know if I can wait for your jig video I might try making one before hand. 😅
Weird idea may be good may not. I personally would experiment and join two stars together back to back and one have the little star in it.
Could you make nautical stars with this using two different types(colors) of woods?
I will try to make a nautical star in the future...I would probably need to cut two 9 degrees wedges for an 18 degree point. The only issue I forsee are the clamps getting in the way of the blade gaurd but maybe I'll get lucky again. Only one way to find out!
Might want to install 8m inserts in the base and use bolts instead of screws. It should last longer that way.
Goals!
The pucker factor was high with that first jig.
I felt it too
Very nice. Do you have the plans for yge jig?
Not yet. More of a prototype at this point. I might change a couple things on it first.
Do you have a G foursome for the 3-D start ?
Do you have a plan to build this jig? Thanks
Nice video very informative. What was the angle of your sled?
Which one?
@@savvybuildswhat is the size of your sled or I’m having a problem get the 19.5 piece of wood set in place. Thank you for the response.
@@marylessis9376 It's 13 inches deep and 31 inches wide.
Excellent video! I was able to make a close duplication of your jig between a picture & your narrative. Using it for the first cuts & then making the last cut with stop blocks right now.
Question for you, since you’re the resident mathematician in this group how do I make a larger star? I’m obviously limited on the miter saw so I’ve tried making a sliding jig for the table saw. A 1x4 will only make one just so large so is it just a matter of using the same dims with a wider piece of lumber?
Hey! That's great to hear! So the 1x4 is pretty much the maximum size for cutting the first angle with this jig however, the second part of the jig can cut much bigger with stop block moved outwards. In order to make a 3d star using a 1x6 would require you to make the compound cut (same angles) on a table saw with a sliding sled. Then glue the two pieces together. Then go back to the miter saw to cut the inner angles. There should be enough room if you have a massive miter saw like mine. I don't think you can cut the inner angles on the table saw because the blade probably wont go high enough.
I hope this helps. I actually already started making a simple table saw sled for this reason. I want bigger! Have a great day!
As a follow up, took your advise & devised a couple of sleds for the table saw to cut both the outer & then inner angles. Used the same basic principles you taught for the 1x4 & incorporated them for a 1x6. Felt safer on the table saw cutting the larger pieces. The 1x6 went so well that I duplicated the sled to accommodate a 1x10 to make a star for the front of my son’s barn. It equates to a star being 54” across! Since I’m in a wheelchair I’m having to paint each point one at a time & then assemble it. Otherwise I can’t reach the middle of the star to properly paint it.
Thanks again for your informative video, making these stars has been fun!!!
Would like to get a copy of the jig design plans
Time consuming yes, but very nice.
OK, that was impressive. I too have no idea what the geometric formula would be
The how without the why is usually lost on most of us in woodworking land. 😁
A 24 degree (possibly 23) bevel may get you that 36 degree angle.
Thank you like to give you my thoughts and a pic but not out hear
I need some that are about 5”
These can be made any size. Same angles. You would have to modify the jig to accommodate smaller pieces though.
Others here noted this is by far the easiest approach to 3D stars to follow... I've burnt out my math neuron, though, so no offer of a magical equation from me. That said, and someone below pointed out, if you're doing a 5-point star and using a 90-degree (blade not tilted over for a compound cut) approach on the second jig, wouldn't the angle have to be 22.5 degrees? Then the shims would only be needed to adjust the overall length of your point part (to keep or eliminate the second little star)...?
Also - you do realize that you almost made tiny Star Destroyers, right?
Are you wanting to make a 2d star without the bevel? If so the angles to the inner part of the star would be the same but the first Jig would have to be set to 18 degrees. In this video I am cutting a 36 degree angle. 36 x 2 = 72 degrees (72 x 5 = 360) which gives me the angles needed for a 5 point star to fit together accurately. I cut the triangular pieces for the jig on my miter saw at 54 degrees but it actually gives me a 36 degree angle when I make the cut with this set up. Hope this helps. This stuff can get very confusing! Cheers!
The geometric math you are looking for is called Topology. It is how you get a shoebox from a flat piece of cardboard.
I figured out that a 22.5 degree bevel and a 20 degree miter on the jig is a 36 degree point
That's great! Thank you. How did the star turn out? I wish viewers could post pics on here somehow.
@@savvybuilds it turned out well just need to for the first time.
😮😮😮😮
Nice but nah too much trouble
Jig plans available on Patreon for cheap! patreon.com/SavvyBuilds