Dr. Sadler, you have been endowed, or have endowed yourself, with talents of great merit. Having been taught by a fair amount of people in your profession, I can say with utmost confidence that you have been the best. You manage to be personal and impassioned without sacrificing the objectivity of your analysis. My first philosophy professor almost turned me off of the subject entirely, she, an ideologue, was not reluctant to use her classroom as a soapbox. Thank you for the hard work!
Wisdom calls the shots between courage and temperance. ~ Courage: Acting despite one’s fears -->> For what? Protect others? Gain? Honor (Socrates focuses on the most)? ~ Temperance: Self-control over desires for pleasure -->> For what? Enjoy other pleasures? ~ Wisdom: Freed from concern with pleasures/pains/emotions Pattern of Action Desire or Desires Knowledge / Reasoning Socrates view: Courage and temperance really are WITHIN themselves -the true forms of them- not what we see in ourselves or not what the common conception has. Only the philosopher has these true views.
Yes -- they don't play any role in this Platonic dialogue. When Socrates does discuss akrasia/kratia, his take is essentially that it doesn't really exist. To know the good adequately is actually to be necessitated by it in one's choice
Hey! I have no idea how to use google+ so I am sorry that I didn't not reply on there. Your videos are amazing and your lectures on many of the philosophers have helped me tremendously! I subscribed because you are a great teacher and a great person too.
No problem with that -- you can comment in G+ or TH-cam -- they both go to the same basic place, as far as I know. Glad you're finding the videos helpful!
Would you by any chance have a translation recommendation for The Iliad? I know, off subject, but you mentioned it in the lecture. Whatever translation I tried 2 years ago really lost me.
People often call soilders couragous; but it takes more fear and less courage to kill someone, it takes courage to endeavour to cooperate with the person percieved as an enemy. Courage defined as acting in the face of fear; should you endeavour to kill it would most likely be out of fear of yours and or others death(s) if you don't kill; so it follows that should you take the risk of endeavouring to not kill/be destructive, so should you endeavour to cooperate, even though that by doing so you face a greater risk of death, then, also because it is a greater risk, you have more courage. Also, should you find someone who says that it is naïve to think that cooperation would work, you'll find someone who doesn't believe in the humanity - or cooperative ability - of the people who are percieved as enemies; now then should someone meet you and treat you as an enemy rather than a comrade it is most likely you'll feel or behave in a way antagonistic towards that person, that is an example of the self-fulfilling prophecy; so it follows then that should the person genuinely see the so-called enemies as comrades, then cooperation will have a higher chance of success than destruction; success defined as creating - or allowing for - order and or peace.
Dr. Sadler, you have been endowed, or have endowed yourself, with talents of great merit. Having been taught by a fair amount of people in your profession, I can say with utmost confidence that you have been the best. You manage to be personal and impassioned without sacrificing the objectivity of your analysis. My first philosophy professor almost turned me off of the subject entirely, she, an ideologue, was not reluctant to use her classroom as a soapbox. Thank you for the hard work!
You're very welcome. It's unfortunate, but there's a lot of bad teachers of philosophy out there -- I've had a few of them myself!
A little bit of Plato for a Friday night. . .
Temperance is hard in many cases. Especially when philosophy is so interesting and you do not want to stop learning about it.
Wisdom calls the shots between courage and temperance.
~ Courage: Acting despite one’s fears -->> For what? Protect others? Gain? Honor (Socrates focuses on the most)?
~ Temperance: Self-control over desires for pleasure -->> For what? Enjoy other pleasures?
~ Wisdom: Freed from concern with pleasures/pains/emotions
Pattern of Action
Desire or Desires
Knowledge / Reasoning
Socrates view:
Courage and temperance really are WITHIN themselves
-the true forms of them-
not what we see in ourselves
or not what the common conception has.
Only the philosopher has these true views.
Great video, Gregory! You didn't mention continence/incontinence -- is that because those terms belong to Aristotle rather than Plato?
Yes -- they don't play any role in this Platonic dialogue.
When Socrates does discuss akrasia/kratia, his take is essentially that it doesn't really exist. To know the good adequately is actually to be necessitated by it in one's choice
Hey! I have no idea how to use google+ so I am sorry that I didn't not reply on there. Your videos are amazing and your lectures on many of the philosophers have helped me tremendously! I subscribed because you are a great teacher and a great person too.
No problem with that -- you can comment in G+ or TH-cam -- they both go to the same basic place, as far as I know.
Glad you're finding the videos helpful!
Would you by any chance have a translation recommendation for The Iliad?
I know, off subject, but you mentioned it in the lecture. Whatever translation I tried 2 years ago really lost me.
I do not.
People often call soilders couragous; but it takes more fear and less courage to kill someone, it takes courage to endeavour to cooperate with the person percieved as an enemy. Courage defined as acting in the face of fear; should you endeavour to kill it would most likely be out of fear of yours and or others death(s) if you don't kill; so it follows that should you take the risk of endeavouring to not kill/be destructive, so should you endeavour to cooperate, even though that by doing so you face a greater risk of death, then, also because it is a greater risk, you have more courage. Also, should you find someone who says that it is naïve to think that cooperation would work, you'll find someone who doesn't believe in the humanity - or cooperative ability - of the people who are percieved as enemies; now then should someone meet you and treat you as an enemy rather than a comrade it is most likely you'll feel or behave in a way antagonistic towards that person, that is an example of the self-fulfilling prophecy; so it follows then that should the person genuinely see the so-called enemies as comrades, then cooperation will have a higher chance of success than destruction; success defined as creating - or allowing for - order and or peace.
What does this have to do with the discussion in the Phaedo?