SC2 - Clem vs. Reynor - DH Masters: Winter 2020 - Grand Finals - EU
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- In today's matches at DreamHack SC2 Masters: Winter 2020
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Dreamhack, *please* consider adding a half hour of black screen after the games at least in the finals. It is almost impossible to avoid seeing the length of the video and thereby realize who wins.
That would be something. I would prefere if they just included the before and after talk of the match instead. Adds to the experience in my opinion. If people prefere to just watch the matches they can always skip the beginning/end of video.
TH-cam doesn't like that. They notice that people stop watching the last half hour of the video and it hurts the ranking.
TH-cam should just add a setting that lets you turn the time and the red bar on the video off
Beautifully played by both players. But wow! I was blown away by Clem's performance. 🙌💖
Reynor hit us with that playlist brother
Is this legal in France to be so high on online tournaments?
@@yakunins1 Reynor is Italian.
I... wasn't expecting that! i'm so glad someone else than zerg wins the EU finals tbh, clem what an amazing performance and he's so young!
I was rooting for Clem. But based on past games, I wasn't sure he would win against someone as strong as reynor. When he did, my mind was blown away. Congratulations!
It was a 4-1 aswell. Really insane, I think Clem is on his way to take the crowns from reynor and serrals head and become the GOAT
@@ivelkroezen7437 I wonder how he'll do against maru, TY, and Cure :D
@@Katzenweitwurf I think TvT is his weak point, so especially against Maru he will probably struggle
wrr
To be the GOAT you have to beat the Korean players too. Katowice is the new Blizzcon unfortunately so the amount of attempts at them is far less than in past years. SC2 competitive is also skewed because the pressure of having an audience live is not there either.
Does this mean Clem vs Reynor vs Serral is officially a "Rock, Paper, Scissors"-esque matchup now? 🕵♂️
*S:* "Clem! You can't defeat me!"
*C:* "I know, but _he_ can!"
*R:* "Serral! You can't defeat me!"
*S:* "I know, but _he_ can!"
*C:* "Reynor! You can"t defeat me!"
*R:* "I know, but _he_ can!"
*S:* "Clem! You can't def- _Hol up!"_ 🤔🔁
Well, in this tournament at least Clem proved better than both of them. Sure, Serral knocked him to the losers bracket but he got revenge on Serral in the losers bracket final and wound up with a positive map score vs Serral as well. Still though, these 3 were completely head and shoulders over the rest of Europe in this tournament. They were the only 3 to go 7-0 in their group stages, and the only defeats they had in the bracket stages were to each other. Europe is so much more exciting now than 2 years ago when Serral was God =)
@@ClearAlera Indeed, notable that Clem played against and won versus all other top EU players of all races this tournament. He won the top 3 zergs (Serral, Reynor and Elazer), top protoss (Showtime) and top other terran besides himself (Heromarine). He is absolutely a deserving champion, and the first time in my opinion when we can look at a terran foreigner and confidently say he's on about the same level as the top terrans in Korea. Go Clem, well done!
well given how Serral lost to both Clem and Reynor in this bracket, no.
Serral = Federer, Reynor = Nadal, Clem = Djokovic
Those both players deserve a higher league than GrandMasters. Respect for them,and Serral too :D
In chess there is a term that would be appropriate here: Super grandmaster!
@@karlwilzen And 7500 MMR at least :D
wrg
These three should really join the GSL, perhaps all in the same season
@@pooglechen3251 Watch GSL vs The World. Serral beat them twice. GSL doesn't have enough level for them, even more now those 3 are in a completely new world.
Nice comeback! Clem is a new young legend SC2 :3
17:50 The lurkers weren't on hold fire, they just couldn't see through the vision blocker
casters were blind
OMG how good is Clem??! He seemed completely untouchable toward the end of the series.
So good! One of my favorite players!
The ascension of Clem. Good to see.
Really has been a ride seeing him go from fumbling to dominant
I'm happy I randomly predicted a Clem 4-2 win and it happened. But to think that he took 4 games in a row against arguably the best Zerg atm .. Wow! Looking forward to great things from him in the Season Finals!
PS Clem winning with Mech was just Icing on The Cake
Reynor didn't hold position his lurkers. He didn't have vision through the bushes to shoot earlier.
tall grass eat your heart out
Lurkers are just terrible Siege tanks, shorter ranges, lower damage, worse attack type and higher cost.
Since stealth doesn't work vs. Terran, it's just silly.
Insert "Thank you"-Meme from The Office.
I'm loving how hungry Clem is
Clem is gonna be the best star craft player we have seen
Lets see if he can beat Byun at his best.
His TvZ is god like because he play against best two zergs in the world. But his TvT and TvP is lacking.
He is at his best against Zerg. His TvT is his weakest especially at late game. He was exposed by Maru recently.
@@Justbleed434 Agree, i guess its because there isnt other great Europe terran, he doesn't have practice. I really hope he can improve, it's the only thing lacking, because TvP i think is top tier right now, he defeated Showtime 3-0.
@@jimmyvelasco1570 Yes he's a beast in TVP he beats top korean protosses consistently - zest, stats, trap...
Been waiting for this moment for a while, congratulation!!!
CLEM BEAT SERRAL?!😳
Really starting to rethink the whole “kid” thing when I watch Clem.🤔
There's a new Sheriff in town boys.
Great games! Clem is top class Terran!
GG Clem nice to see you get a big win well deserved
Clem is a GOD wow that last game wtf 😳
The Mech Game was so masterfull from Clem. He seemed to be everywhere and the BC was so annoying. I almost think he should remake one as soon as Reynor has no corrupter left
i think the lockon cyclones r crazy af lol
Clem vs Serral
Everyone: Widowmines are broken
Clem vs Reynor
Everyone: ...he didn't really use Widowmines...silence
You summed up my thoughts perfectly. I thought Clem beat Serral only because of WMs, but then I watched his matches Vs Reynor and I realized - Clem is a God. I do hope Serral figures out how to beat the WM meta, it's pretty popular now.
Clem is not a god he is a human that plays starcraft well
Reynor so scared of widow mines he diddnt use zerglings much
@@jayurenos i pray to Clem everyday what do you mean
Window mines are broken. Even the king of lings is unable to play ling because of it.
I wonder what reynor is saying when he's playing
Maybe he's streaming? Or he was singing to a song? Lol
"Fuck this shit broken race." Reynor, probably.
Looks like he is singing or rapping
Italian Rap he said.
he stops singing at game 6 tho, getting serious.. lol
Just wow, the new Champ is here, Clem destroying Serral and Renyor? What a young talent!
Love those differents theme songs for both players
After seeing a lot of reynors replays, my attention has been attracted a lot by this guy kinda moving a lot around etc so now I gotta ask two things by curiosity:
1) is he talking to himself trough-out the game or singing ?
2) Is he like on anything while playing or something or it’s just normal?
Yes
welcome to the top Clem
Interviewing the players after games would be awesome.
sublime play!!!
I'd love to see Clem Raynor and Serral play in the GSL for 1 season just to shake things up on that side and support the "foreigners" over there
Many casters are hyping the Serral is the GOAT, to me it seems like they think GSL players are scrubs. I would like to watch these 3 compete in 1 whole year of GSL and see if any of them win a title.
@LowLinK When did Serral "dominated" in GSL? iirc, he only played 2 matches (GSL vs The World) and both are just exhibition matches where he played only 1 game each time. He did not go through a gauntlet.
I like Clem, being a biased Terran. I don't know if he is the "best player in the world right now". I haven't watched many matches recently but I'd say Reynor is pretty good, too. The 3 of them are. But, like you said, if any one of them were grouped with Rogue, Inno, TY, etc., what are the chances that they will go on to the next round?
@@Glass_Half_Full 1 game each time? Exhibition? ... GSL vs the World is a real tournement ... what are you saying? XD
@@leonardoprada1369 how many games did they play against each other?
wowo epic well done
Congrats Clem.
What a surprise Raynor lost another final after beating serral hahaha (Also Clem has improved a lot recently, he deserves this victory)
The winner always deserves the victory.
Reynor beated Serral 3vs2 but clem just before this match beated Serral 3vs1, i think Clem is better in TvZ than those 2, but barely, they are better against other races though. Clem TvP is very very good, TvT it has to improve, i guess because he doesnt have much competition in Europe. Lets see how he does agains Maru, TY, Innovation and Time, i really think if he tops in his TvT he will be the next world champion.
Feardragon’s shrill screaming is what passes for casting I guess?
I’m glad I normally only watch GSL/ASL.
CLEM BEAT SERRAL?!😳
Really starting to rethink the whole “kid” thing when I watch Clem.🤔
Any chance the DreamHack 2020 Winter Finals tournament will get uploaded? Will the uploads continue with the new twitch contract?
Reynor’s cam is obnoxious. Not a fan
those "hold position lurkers" on the second game weren't even on hold position... they just didnt have vision because of the bush
i dont get this, clem absolutely dismantled serral all alone with his widow mines, and so far in the second game he didnt build a single one against reynor. why?
i think reynor is better against mines, i say that because clem and reynor constantly play, so i guess they know each other pretty well, idk though. Reynor right know is better than serral, and serral beat clem 4 matches against 5 for clem in the 2 times they faced each other in this tournament, but with Reynor Clem blasted him 4 consecutive matches agains 1 (the other one doesnt count, it was because Reynor came from winner round, so maybe mec and tanks are better? I dont know lol
Allez la France !!! GG Clem ;)
U kept the breaks on here 🤣 could not edit that out lol
Clem is the EU Maru
Congrats Clem on overcoming OP Zerg!
Had no idea how these two looked irl, but I guess I have no reason to be surprised
Can you not spoil the results in the description :/
Game 2 raynor loses lurkers from no vision in bush... Wasnt hold position. If had vision in bush game still in Clem favor from that prior engagement but raynor plays out
Lurkers were on hold postion. If they were not bio could not close the distance. If the lurkers were on normal command he would have won the engagement.
Re Watch it my dude, they were on hold position.
it cant be hold position. if it was marines jsut walk past. we seethe lurker get first volley off on tank PLUS lurkers didnt have creep no any overloards we even see the over seer at clem 2nd furthermore any unit that shoots or attacks from bush will be proteced unless the ground unit enters or has air unit to spot.....
Does anybody know why the season finals don't get uploaded?
A new foreign badass. Glad to see it's a terran too.
SICKKKK song in the 22 min mark. What is the name of the song?
I'm also looking for the a playlist of all musics on DH SC2 tournments, have you tried th-cam.com/video/QEMtdeoNU3A/w-d-xo.html with 1.5x speed, it's quite good.
It's ok. According to Shazam, it's called Analog Flight by La Plage
Can we get a mic on Reynor?
Where can I get the Replays?:)
why is first game missing?
Battle of the kids!
I'm so happy for Clem.
Wow Clem Mech
So happy to see reynor lose. I can forgive him for beating serral now.
Lol
wrg
Clem beated Serral 3-1 right before this match, lol.
How did reynor start this series with 1-0?
because Reynor came from the winners bracket and Clem came from the losers bracket.
Wish their faces weren't visible.
whats reynor listening to
how old are these kids!??!!?
how do they know they arnt listening to the stream of them play?
Like they say broodlords and then clem makes a random thor for the first time in the game?
I imagine they probably have some kind of application that monitors their sound/video.
They usually delay the stream seconds or minutes. Stream cheating is a real thing, that's what most streamers do.
Clem might have spotted the greater spire, and you also have to remember that these 2 have played eachother dozens of times, so they are very used to their strategies. They are most likely not watching the stream, first because of the delay, and 2nd because they are most likely being monitored
Man who else wants to hear what reynor is saying/singing while he plays ?
Clem is officially the zerg killer...
Where is the first game esl?
Reynor start the series 1-0 because he came from the winner’s bracket
porque raynor partió 1 - 0?
Recompensa por Reynor no perder una serie en su trayectoria hacia la final EU
Great final!!! Nothing against Ravi(FearDragon). Him casting group stages, even early final bracket I guess.. But its disappointing to have the worst caster out of the line-up to be commentating the finals or even quarter or semi. Thank goodness for the Rotti caster carry. I think FearDragon casting most viewed days of DH is a meme now and ESL knows it. How could they not, it is repeated said in twitch chat, reddit, and anywhere else SC2 is talked about.
Why is he so bad. I don't like him, I know he is bad. But WHY?
I disagree. Zombiegrub is way, way worse, and I find she detracts a lot from whatever game she happens to be casting, with the other caster having to carry it to make it enjoyable at all. But, of course, that's my personal preference.
I hate the comment "I don't hate it ..". What does that mean? You like it? You don't like it? It's good? It's bad? It's not bad? It's not good? It's just a non answer for me !!!
Game 4 was played so poorly by Reynor, every single Zerg player knows that if you want to beat a mech player, you need a better economy, or you need to get cost efficient trades and you need Vypers for that.
He played the entire game with like 74 Drones or so...
why is feardragon casting every game I want to watch :(
exactly how i feel
No offense but do people like fear dragon? Guys voice and style just flips me out
Our community is so small that we can’t dislike anyone
Basically marines with stimpack + medivac takes to win a game... against roach + ravager + ling + bane
Awesome games to watch. ty for posting.
Had to edit it. Sorry but I just do not like these two casters any longer. Someone new to this game would get so much wrongful information from these two. Should've had Nate and grub do this instead. Or any other 2.
the commentator cant stop mentioning reynor
wall the natural or die to zerglings jeez
OMG! Raynor what happen
What’s this free win for coming from the winners bracket bullshit
Raynor is mumbling something like crazy..
Really dissapointed, Clem clearly deserved to win but Reynor played at like 80% of his capacity, such poor decision making all the freaking time.
maybe, Clem vs Serral was better match, but yep, i think TvZ Clem is the best of all
Cyclones are literally cancer vs Roach
Clem will beat the Koreans hope to see that
His TvZ is crazy good but unfortunately he still has some progress to do in TvT and TvP if he wants to beat Maru Trap or TY
@@julienmaeda th-cam.com/video/LPeniJKjB4A/w-d-xo.html ;)
Terran hard counter response to everything... "A", "A", "A", "A", "A", "D"..."maybe 2 or 3 tanks."
Low tier player spotted.
Seems like terran are doing pretty well lately eh.. maybe they'll stop whining.. *looks at the comments* no..
Kinda funny these kids playing the final of an international tournament from their basements)
How the fuck do you not upload the first game!? Its such a shame the uploading of these games and delivery of the tournament for people who didn't watch live is terrible. Dont know why you cant upload the whole day of games as one upload or at least get all the games in the video.
Zerg days are coming to an end. Back to terran zzzz again.
Zerg is the most boring op race with the baneling busts and being up 20 workers every game so np their days has ended
Zerg lategame is in such a pathetic state currently. It's sad
Biggest problem is no endgame units that can form the backbone of an army. All the endgame zerg units are support. Broodlords can siege but have to be defended well. Ultras can trade with midgame comps but are shredded if the enemy has a counter. Vipers are carrying. Seems bad to me but pro zergs are still winning!
I feel infestors have a place in lategame Z - especially for fungal - but I'm not sure why most pros don't use them anymore. But I'm just a casual viewer, so maybe someone can explain to me.
@@simpler3m3dy56 they're actually using them, i guess you cant see them because most games aint lasting long. And , if they do, players dont have 80+ workers, so zergs cant easily do a tech switch
@@andreygrigorev8366 That's true, some of these players have become so good at denying the Zerg eco. In these games for example, Reynor hardly had any window to get more than 80 drones. I wonder what Zergs are going to do in response to this current meta.
@@simpler3m3dy56 they are used but people split so well the best spell is nueral, and that is only good against high value units.
lol they're literally playing out of their parents basements.
Reynor literally won enough prize money in the last couple years to buy a house outright that is probably nicer than any of the ones you have lived in. So, if he did stream it in his mom's basement, it is by choice, and he will still have all the babes you don't have.
Besides, I always thought that was a dumb insult anyway.
@@adrianbundy3249 sorry you took my obviously funny comment as a personal attack on you bro...I know these guys make a ton of money, wasn't meant to be an insult, just making a funny observation bro!
bien joué frérot
OMG how good is Clem??! He seemed completely untouchable toward the end of the series.