i did not forget to post this comment you guys just weren't able to see it because im cooler than you docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ejbZ8QkyzUo6pGk54R7OIcNnDGOisg_UEuk4_9jRdqg/
I just realized you're the charming nerd with the silky smooth voice that girls fawn over even though they aren't paying attention when you tell them that Tower23 is actually a 14 point curse
but strimmer how will I know if mid.death is bad or not if I cant blindly skip to the end and look at the image (also yeah I made this tierlist, it should be every possible t4 curse (aside from wilds lol))
I like the fluid nature of the curses. Some thoughts are hard and true, while others have nuance to add into consideration. That’s why Voyix is the goat in my heart.
Thanks for the Teir Lists Voyix, I've learned a lot about the game from watching your vids and try to watch them every day! You've made me so much better at the game and make rlly good content sooooo idk thats cool
I think Stony Grasp is quite close to top.blank and bot.blank, cause while Stony (as you mentioned) can be played around with Cleanse, it overrides side replacers. And the blanks are fixed with side replacers. Matter of how many items actually replace them, off course. But also, for Cleanse you usually need to spend a side, and often in suboptimal way (overshielding, overhealing etc). While side replacers are passive. Hard to quantify it exactly.
45:30 ermm streamer, streamer! i have video evidence that you can stall slime queen and foretell forever until you reach the action limit! just simply hit dabbler, knight, druid, and seer!!
Backstab is REALLY good in exactly one situation and it's with decree. The one time I picked backstab I randomed my tier 4 item into decree and the run was easy pz. But unless you tug on the strings of fate like that, it's truly horrifying fr
I feel like if tower 23 is considered death just to slime queen, then shouldn't doom be similar due to lich? There's also hexia, which is a fight you want to play patiently, and inevitable, which sometimes goes long due to weakens and exerts. I think if the doom hits you probably lose immediately, and even if you try playing aggressive you could always just low roll and miss your big damage sides. Normally if this happens you can just play out your turn defensively instead, but that's a losing strategy with doom. I personally think there are enough unwinnable / extremely difficult fights or situations with this curse that it should be a horror, but maybe I'm overrating how bad it is.
the doom lose case is you fight lich (1/4) and super low roll so that your entire team dies on turn 5 end. Lich does very little damage so you can tend to get away unless you’re just getting crushed by bones but then this is just “hey if I roll only x’s into doom vs lich I lose” and yeah that’s true. the tower lose case is slime queen, no if’s after that
Helllloooo slicers and dicers! I'm feeling well today so can yall share some interesting or funny moments? I can go first: I have gotten 2 Grandma's (the really rare wolf variant) in one run. In fight 3 and fight 1.
24:00 wait with heavy sleeper isnt there that one floor 19 fight with like 3 fanatics that can be really bad? i remember you mentioning like, "this is why you never play heavy sleeper" in that fight at least once before or maybe your opinions on it have changed, idk, its been a while since i was watching all your slice and dice videos edit: oh wait you mention that literally a minute later . oop
I actually played Fight 14 Curse recently and lost by building my team around expecting to play stone rain, but neither stone rain or right 2 caltrops were offered to me. I ended up losing the run to the hand too.
@@thejazmaster5292 It was brutal, I got Heartless (All Heroes: I die whenever I save a hero) and Doom^8/3 (At the end of the 3rd turn, 8 damage to all allies). I decided both of those were run enders for sure, on floor 12 I did not have the setup to end every fight by turn 3. Maybe if I'd taken picks that weren't heavily biased towards Stone Rain. I had Shaman. So, I ended up randoming into Right 2 Caltrops and making it to the final boss even with an absolutely neutered red. Boss I got was the hand though and the +1 to caltrop sides just tore me up
Hey, I'm definitely not as good as you at Slice & Dice, but I've played a few runs with i.backstab and I have almost an 80 winstreak on classic hard. It is a nasty curse, but it's pretty easy to mitigate with Knight and Captain. In that case, it ends up like amnesia where you just have one weak hero giving only 3 shield or contributing to form. I'm sure it's killed me before, but I've also won at least a few runs with it. Definitely a big sad curse, I'd only pick it if I've used my reroll. But I think it's much better than like monster right or big hitter.
Okay I just got to the part where you ranked empathy lol and I agree with you on that one. It sounds like the literal worst but it's not a hard run-ender.
I swear, I have the worst luck and also make the most mistakes whenever I play the easier curses. (3rd turn Blind and Stony Grasp) Both my longest winstreaks died to low rolling and in case of the 3rd Turn Blind run also bad targeting on my part and a low damage team comp) In the Stony Grasp run I actually rolled 11-12/15 X's for three rounds straight and got pummelled to death. Since that moment I just try to avoid X curses. They're so unfun. Edit: Heavy Sleeper is actually my favourite curse because it forces me to think about every move I make.
i did not forget to post this comment you guys just weren't able to see it because im cooler than you
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ejbZ8QkyzUo6pGk54R7OIcNnDGOisg_UEuk4_9jRdqg/
I just realized you're the charming nerd with the silky smooth voice that girls fawn over even though they aren't paying attention when you tell them that Tower23 is actually a 14 point curse
just admit that you're fawning over him too, we all are
Am a girl, can confirm 😂
JK I'm not
@utterpreshure8468 I never implied the opposite
speak for yourself, I'm fawning AND paying attention
He predicted it
He forgot to put it spreadsheet in the comments
Heads up, you can't side-replace i.Backstab since the sides have stasis. It's something to easy to miss.
I think it's hard-countered by that one card I don't remember the name of that adds stasis to all sides
edit: why the hell did I say card and not item
Came down here to make sure no one else wrote this
Doesn't change the rating really, still in the horrors
@@LeonardBaker-tr4kc It's not that bad. Good if you have greens
@@bramblefuthat just means greens are really bad tbh
It pops off with decree though, very fun
but strimmer how will I know if mid.death is bad or not if I cant blindly skip to the end and look at the image
(also yeah I made this tierlist, it should be every possible t4 curse (aside from wilds lol))
ty for making this so I don’t have to, I hate screenshoting images for the tier lists
I like the fluid nature of the curses. Some thoughts are hard and true, while others have nuance to add into consideration. That’s why Voyix is the goat in my heart.
Thanks for the Teir Lists Voyix, I've learned a lot about the game from watching your vids and try to watch them every day!
You've made me so much better at the game and make rlly good content sooooo
idk thats cool
27:40 actually you can't side replace out of backstab due to it also have stasis! Very fun and fair
yea apparently that curse is somehow worse than it seems, which is incredible
This is cursed…
I think Stony Grasp is quite close to top.blank and bot.blank, cause while Stony (as you mentioned) can be played around with Cleanse, it overrides side replacers. And the blanks are fixed with side replacers. Matter of how many items actually replace them, off course. But also, for Cleanse you usually need to spend a side, and often in suboptimal way (overshielding, overhealing etc). While side replacers are passive. Hard to quantify it exactly.
Damn, that's crazy!! I can't believe John Dice would do that
45:30 ermm streamer, streamer! i have video evidence that you can stall slime queen and foretell forever until you reach the action limit!
just simply hit dabbler, knight, druid, and seer!!
i didnt happen to have tower for this run but that is prob the only slime queen fight id ever be able to beat her with tower as my curse lol
Backstab is REALLY good in exactly one situation and it's with decree. The one time I picked backstab I randomed my tier 4 item into decree and the run was easy pz. But unless you tug on the strings of fate like that, it's truly horrifying fr
This is such a cursed slice and dice video ever
I feel like if tower 23 is considered death just to slime queen, then shouldn't doom be similar due to lich? There's also hexia, which is a fight you want to play patiently, and inevitable, which sometimes goes long due to weakens and exerts. I think if the doom hits you probably lose immediately, and even if you try playing aggressive you could always just low roll and miss your big damage sides. Normally if this happens you can just play out your turn defensively instead, but that's a losing strategy with doom. I personally think there are enough unwinnable / extremely difficult fights or situations with this curse that it should be a horror, but maybe I'm overrating how bad it is.
the doom lose case is you fight lich (1/4) and super low roll so that your entire team dies on turn 5 end. Lich does very little damage so you can tend to get away unless you’re just getting crushed by bones but then this is just “hey if I roll only x’s into doom vs lich I lose” and yeah that’s true.
the tower lose case is slime queen, no if’s after that
I can't agree that fewer reroll, sticky fingers, right two blank, bot/top blanks are harder than gostly monsters and monster hp 1/4
Helllloooo slicers and dicers!
I'm feeling well today so can yall share some interesting or funny moments?
I can go first:
I have gotten 2 Grandma's (the really rare wolf variant) in one run. In fight 3 and fight 1.
You don't hold grudge against Shield Response even after 2 Trolls with that ended your large streak. That's the character. Respect that.
24:00 wait with heavy sleeper isnt there that one floor 19 fight with like 3 fanatics that can be really bad? i remember you mentioning like, "this is why you never play heavy sleeper" in that fight at least once before
or maybe your opinions on it have changed, idk, its been a while since i was watching all your slice and dice videos
edit: oh wait you mention that literally a minute later . oop
I actually played Fight 14 Curse recently and lost by building my team around expecting to play stone rain, but neither stone rain or right 2 caltrops were offered to me. I ended up losing the run to the hand too.
What was offered?
oh that’s interesting, I haven’t played it enough to see anything but those two
@@thejazmaster5292 It was brutal, I got Heartless (All Heroes: I die whenever I save a hero) and Doom^8/3 (At the end of the 3rd turn, 8 damage to all allies). I decided both of those were run enders for sure, on floor 12 I did not have the setup to end every fight by turn 3. Maybe if I'd taken picks that weren't heavily biased towards Stone Rain. I had Shaman. So, I ended up randoming into Right 2 Caltrops and making it to the final boss even with an absolutely neutered red. Boss I got was the hand though and the +1 to caltrop sides just tore me up
Hey, I'm definitely not as good as you at Slice & Dice, but I've played a few runs with i.backstab and I have almost an 80 winstreak on classic hard. It is a nasty curse, but it's pretty easy to mitigate with Knight and Captain. In that case, it ends up like amnesia where you just have one weak hero giving only 3 shield or contributing to form. I'm sure it's killed me before, but I've also won at least a few runs with it.
Definitely a big sad curse, I'd only pick it if I've used my reroll. But I think it's much better than like monster right or big hitter.
Okay I just got to the part where you ranked empathy lol and I agree with you on that one. It sounds like the literal worst but it's not a hard run-ender.
Could you do a Tier 1 Curse mini-tier list?
How do you survive the early game with every 3rd turn thorn?
I swear, I have the worst luck and also make the most mistakes whenever I play the easier curses. (3rd turn Blind and Stony Grasp) Both my longest winstreaks died to low rolling and in case of the 3rd Turn Blind run also bad targeting on my part and a low damage team comp)
In the Stony Grasp run I actually rolled 11-12/15 X's for three rounds straight and got pummelled to death. Since that moment I just try to avoid X curses. They're so unfun.
Edit: Heavy Sleeper is actually my favourite curse because it forces me to think about every move I make.
33:56 😐🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺
I miss slicers already! Cue pic of Tyrone Biggums
you say you didn't want to collab for this video and yet there chris is in the top corner?
curious
i watch every video but this pne wouldn't recommend to me
ya this one’s getting killed in the algorithm, I think it’s the title being too close to the last video. Going to try messing with it later today
Gojo won't have any curses
98% ... why not put 100?
for the algorithm
Because he's a man of integrity and his actual winrate is 98%.
yeah I think primarily because I didn’t win 100% of my runs
i watched the runs like all of them