The Mine Dispenser Raicho is actually its offensive loadout. Lay two mines in Line of Sight of your target during your advance to the gunfight and when you engage it they have to either face to face your shots and eat the mines or dodge at a penalty. This allows the Raicho to engage Mimetism units other tags struggle to eliminate. Ikadrons can easily keep up to reload you and it makes it very versatile.
Can I fanboy out first? OMG it’s GMG!!! Also, I’d completely overlooked the ikadron’s baggage. I’m too busy using them as repeaters, flash pulses or flamers without a care about losing them.
Cool video. As someone who played pretty much every version of Morats since HS3, I think you left out some very important points: a) Veteran also means immune to isolation. This is HUGE for Morats, especially hackable units, as it's a lot harder to stop them unless you shoot at them. Plus, it makes annoying things like jammers and E/M ammo completely useless. b) The Suryat lieutenant is as good as, if not better than Kornak. Also generates 3 orders, but is much more resilient and has a better long range gun.
I thought I may have done! I’m also guilty of finding a Morat formula I love and not straying too far from that mix. I’m hesitant about the Suryat LT being as good if you’re not also bringing NCO profiles.
@@the_infinitygamer Why would you bring Kornak then, if there's no NCO to use? ;) The difference is Strategos or not, with the flavoring of longer engagement ranges.
Amazing vid man, one of your best so far. As a newer player this was easy to digest and follow along with and great facts! Gives me a good overview, great format!
Im just playing around with Morats for the first time but from a spare parts perspective Im liking the Zerat and Tyrok for deploying up the field and acting as a Killer Hacker Bubble or dropping Mines to slow that first push if you dont go first. Definitely taking away your thoughts with a Hungries Harries and running a Core with some of what you suggested :)
I have a question for you.. I was watching the English Demo game for the Morats vs Military Orders, done by Corvus Belli.. and at one point some goes to shoot the Rasyat, and the Rasyat just drops an Eclipse grenade, like in his Zone of Control... So the question is, if being fired at, and the ARO is to "Pop Smoke".. is there a face to face roll.. The Rasyat isn't particularly targeting anyone, in fact it has "Targetless" as a key word.. but Corvus Belli doesn't necessarily say "No roll needed, it just happens and works"... So please a little help here... I've been playing since 3rd, and for whatever reason we get the crappy translations that don't do a good job explaining it, so we just don't do it.. and we would like to play as we trained while we served.. IrL if someone is shooting at your squad, you pop smoke.. it is a given.. so for whatever reason, Corvus Belli has taken a shine to you, and you got a great channel, I've been watching about 5 months after u started playing.. u actually got me back into the hobby, all with Wildfire and Beyond Wildfire.. Ok, enough about that.. Thanks for whatever help you can give, Cheers, Jason
If the smoke (or eclipse) is between the target and the attacker then it’s a face to face roll. The reason for this is that the smoke/eclipse blocks LOF from the attacker to the target so would cancel the incoming attack. The grenade attack needs to still be successful. Does that help? And massive thanks for the support Jason. Support from you and everyone commenting, viewing and liking is the reason I still do this so I really appreciate it!
@@the_infinitygamer your answer completely makes sense.. I guess you guys got the "Common Sense" articles in your Rules Books (Lols).. In Florida, United States.. there is no such thing as simplicity.. that's why we have 3hr debates about "popping" smoke or eclipse grenades as an ARO or Secondary Action in "Response" to the Response.. so the reasoning that the hand smoke/eclipse grenade going off blocks LOS therefore stopping the Ballistic ARO makes absolute sense.. thanks again. Keep making vids, I'll keep watching.. Oh, one more thing.. Which TAG do like better from the MORATS,the Raicho, or the Bultrak..?? That's all for now, Cheers, Jason
Hey Jason! Glad the response was of some help. It’s tricky if others are confused by rules but don’t seek clarification - it just keeps the confusion going! Oooh from a sculpt perspective it’s the Bultrak but from a profile perspective it’s the Raicho - that things a beast!
YEEEESSS APE TOGETHER STROOOONG, but some other more useful feedback lieutenants = if not using Kornak and SWC ain't and issue when uind an NCO list, the vanguard is a cheap option which the loss matters even less Yaogat = great lad but core Morats have pretty poor mobility, a kaitok fuerbach+MSV1 is a fun fast alterative who is far tankier (Like you said, though all new profiles are fantastic) Suryat = yeah they're grat, i just pray the non-SWC versions were cheaper. great to build a haris around Raicho = classic, tanky, practical. HOWEVER, Bultrak can run riot on tables with vertical mobility and HRMC is chaos. Rasyat = agreed it works great. building lists with some missing orders will put opponents on defensive even if you don't have one. great for objectives and control but a mediocre fighter (melee decent though so run cheapest) Rindak = rindak + 2 kaitok is a stupid good haris, chain rifle and furbach will melt targets and push buttons. great dodge too but more a utility unit, take care of the robo-monkey| Fireteams = preta core is such a pain to deal with, having a flexible group in the other combat group means core can flex other ways, but that flexibility is morat's secret sauce Turn 2 everything dying = CORRECT, either morats or opponent, no inbetween ARO = generally I hide morats on ARO, relying on prone chain rifles and Dartok hacking network to hold back the tide, but a wall of guns if good stuff too 2nd haris = nice all rounder , good stuff As a morat player this is wishlist: cheaper suryat basic profiles rodok rework (they're just meh, and new models are phenomenal) more banana
I wish you would do a faction explanation video(s) for new people that doesn't use game terms. The other ones from other channels all talk like the viewer is someone whose been in the game and knows what blah means.
@@the_infinitygamer Honestly thats the only thing I can think of. I am trying to get into this game and not sure which faction to get. The problem is all the videos I find say "(whatever faction) is really good at blah!" and I have no idea what blah means. I am coming from 40k so I am used to stuff like "White scares are fast so they move longer distances than other factions" Or other descriptions where I don't need to have an extensive knowledge of the game already to understand.
The Mine Dispenser Raicho is actually its offensive loadout. Lay two mines in Line of Sight of your target during your advance to the gunfight and when you engage it they have to either face to face your shots and eat the mines or dodge at a penalty. This allows the Raicho to engage Mimetism units other tags struggle to eliminate. Ikadrons can easily keep up to reload you and it makes it very versatile.
Can I fanboy out first? OMG it’s GMG!!!
Also, I’d completely overlooked the ikadron’s baggage. I’m too busy using them as repeaters, flash pulses or flamers without a care about losing them.
@@the_infinitygamer Maghariba Guard brings it's own Baggage for it's Mine Dispensers. ;)
That always seems so nuts!
Cool video. As someone who played pretty much every version of Morats since HS3, I think you left out some very important points:
a) Veteran also means immune to isolation. This is HUGE for Morats, especially hackable units, as it's a lot harder to stop them unless you shoot at them. Plus, it makes annoying things like jammers and E/M ammo completely useless.
b) The Suryat lieutenant is as good as, if not better than Kornak. Also generates 3 orders, but is much more resilient and has a better long range gun.
I thought I may have done! I’m also guilty of finding a Morat formula I love and not straying too far from that mix.
I’m hesitant about the Suryat LT being as good if you’re not also bringing NCO profiles.
1) Jammers are fairly laughable. :D
2) E/m ammo will still immobilize heavy infantry and remotes.
@@the_infinitygamer Why would you bring Kornak then, if there's no NCO to use? ;) The difference is Strategos or not, with the flavoring of longer engagement ranges.
His strategos?
@@the_infinitygamer Kornak Lieutenant has a Strategos option.
Amazing vid man, one of your best so far. As a newer player this was easy to digest and follow along with and great facts! Gives me a good overview, great format!
Thank you so much. I genuinely appreciate the positive comments!
Im commenting here because i noticed that bug at 10:00 making a guest appearance across your terrain like a real star.
Hahaha really appreciate you pointing that out. Had to rewatch it 3 times to see the little critter.
Im just playing around with Morats for the first time but from a spare parts perspective Im liking the Zerat and Tyrok for deploying up the field and acting as a Killer Hacker Bubble or dropping Mines to slow that first push if you dont go first.
Definitely taking away your thoughts with a Hungries Harries and running a Core with some of what you suggested :)
I hope you have as much fun with Morats as they’ve given me and my opponents!
Excellent models. Great paint jobs!
Thank you so much Grithertime!
Great breakdown. Don't have a lot of Morats... good faction to consider expanding based on your explanation.
Oh yeah they’re heaps of fun! I’m always going to encourage people to expand their collections 😂
Who is hating on the rindak?! That is a freaking great unit!
Great video too!
Fully agree! Pop it in a Haris and everything lives!
Great summary
Thank you so much. I really appreciate the comment.
Great vid as always!
Appreciate it Tom! Love your painting updates and very envious of your skills!
Great video!
Thank you!
I have a question for you.. I was watching the English Demo game for the Morats vs Military Orders, done by Corvus Belli.. and at one point some goes to shoot the Rasyat, and the Rasyat just drops an Eclipse grenade, like in his Zone of Control... So the question is, if being fired at, and the ARO is to "Pop Smoke".. is there a face to face roll..
The Rasyat isn't particularly targeting anyone, in fact it has "Targetless" as a key word.. but Corvus Belli doesn't necessarily say "No roll needed, it just happens and works"... So please a little help here... I've been playing since 3rd, and for whatever reason we get the crappy translations that don't do a good job explaining it, so we just don't do it.. and we would like to play as we trained while we served..
IrL if someone is shooting at your squad, you pop smoke.. it is a given.. so for whatever reason, Corvus Belli has taken a shine to you, and you got a great channel, I've been watching about 5 months after u started playing.. u actually got me back into the hobby, all with Wildfire and Beyond Wildfire..
Ok, enough about that..
Thanks for whatever help you can give,
Cheers,
Jason
If the smoke (or eclipse) is between the target and the attacker then it’s a face to face roll.
The reason for this is that the smoke/eclipse blocks LOF from the attacker to the target so would cancel the incoming attack. The grenade attack needs to still be successful.
Does that help?
And massive thanks for the support Jason. Support from you and everyone commenting, viewing and liking is the reason I still do this so I really appreciate it!
@@the_infinitygamer your answer completely makes sense.. I guess you guys got the "Common Sense" articles in your Rules Books (Lols)..
In Florida, United States.. there is no such thing as simplicity.. that's why we have 3hr debates about "popping" smoke or eclipse grenades as an ARO or Secondary Action in "Response" to the Response.. so the reasoning that the hand smoke/eclipse grenade going off blocks LOS therefore stopping the Ballistic ARO makes absolute sense.. thanks again.
Keep making vids, I'll keep watching..
Oh, one more thing..
Which TAG do like better from the MORATS,the Raicho, or the Bultrak..??
That's all for now,
Cheers,
Jason
Hey Jason!
Glad the response was of some help. It’s tricky if others are confused by rules but don’t seek clarification - it just keeps the confusion going!
Oooh from a sculpt perspective it’s the Bultrak but from a profile perspective it’s the Raicho - that things a beast!
What is your reasoning with bringing Kaitok Feuerbach instead of Suryat HRL? They cost literaly the same points
Could be wrong, by my reading of it is The Feuerbach has a little more utility vs more heavily armored units vs the HRL.
I often take both…
See, the only Kaitok profile I ever use is the cheap, chain rifle one. The others are all just too expensive imo.
Depends on what else is in your list I guess. Where do your points go?
Ah, yes . . . the Morats.
Infinity’s answer to the Orks.
These guys reinvented the word Dakka. And don’t need to be red to go fast 😉
@@the_infinitygamerGood point.
This still good info?
I think so!
YEEEESSS APE TOGETHER STROOOONG, but some other more useful feedback
lieutenants = if not using Kornak and SWC ain't and issue when uind an NCO list, the vanguard is a cheap option which the loss matters even less
Yaogat = great lad but core Morats have pretty poor mobility, a kaitok fuerbach+MSV1 is a fun fast alterative who is far tankier (Like you said, though all new profiles are fantastic)
Suryat = yeah they're grat, i just pray the non-SWC versions were cheaper. great to build a haris around
Raicho = classic, tanky, practical. HOWEVER, Bultrak can run riot on tables with vertical mobility and HRMC is chaos.
Rasyat = agreed it works great. building lists with some missing orders will put opponents on defensive even if you don't have one. great for objectives and control but a mediocre fighter (melee decent though so run cheapest)
Rindak = rindak + 2 kaitok is a stupid good haris, chain rifle and furbach will melt targets and push buttons. great dodge too but more a utility unit, take care of the robo-monkey|
Fireteams = preta core is such a pain to deal with, having a flexible group in the other combat group means core can flex other ways, but that flexibility is morat's secret sauce
Turn 2 everything dying = CORRECT, either morats or opponent, no inbetween
ARO = generally I hide morats on ARO, relying on prone chain rifles and Dartok hacking network to hold back the tide, but a wall of guns if good stuff too
2nd haris = nice all rounder , good stuff
As a morat player this is wishlist:
cheaper suryat basic profiles
rodok rework (they're just meh, and new models are phenomenal)
more banana
MORE BANANA had me lolling 😂
Are Morats into Dakka?
I wish you would do a faction explanation video(s) for new people that doesn't use game terms. The other ones from other channels all talk like the viewer is someone whose been in the game and knows what blah means.
I like that suggestion Terry! What (other than terminology) do you think needs to be more beginner friendly?
@@the_infinitygamer Honestly thats the only thing I can think of. I am trying to get into this game and not sure which faction to get. The problem is all the videos I find say "(whatever faction) is really good at blah!" and I have no idea what blah means. I am coming from 40k so I am used to stuff like "White scares are fast so they move longer distances than other factions" Or other descriptions where I don't need to have an extensive knowledge of the game already to understand.
That’s super helpful. It’s been a while since I’ve played another game system and forgot the whole ‘Red Ones Go Faster’ type characteristics
Veteran Super Space Monkeys - Hooooooooooooooooooo!
wow, im surprised im not seeing this until 5 months after it came out. Usually youtube throws infinity stuff at me.
It’s a constant battle figuring out why some videos get promoted by TH-cam and some dwindle in the dark.