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Since this got some traction here's the passage in A Dance with Dragons, chapter 42, The King's Prize. "The army covered twenty-two miles the first day, by the reckoning of the guides Lady Sybelle had given them, trackers and hunters sworn to Deepwood with clan names like Forrester and Woods, Branch and Bole." - Asha Greyjoy
@@LuzikArbuzik77 Tyrek Lannister would have finished the job. Hopefully Schwifty and Glimbo do the rest of the game because it's only around 6 hours long, and the story gets a lot more interesting as it develops
This game was actually very low-budget, outside of paying HBO for the licence rights. It came out that TellTale Games (the development team) was actually under an insane level of crunch around this time, with employees going unpaid for overtime work, and a bunch of other workplace horror stories. Frankly, the fact the game is even remotely not the worst thing ever is a miracle.
this game is actually technically cannon friendly. there was gonna be a second season but shit really started to get off the rails with the show, not to mention telltale fucking fell apart tragically
I don’t think it was anything to do with the show as much as the game sold poorly, even in comparison to Telltale’s other games and then, yeah, Telltale as a whole. The tie ins to the main story were very limited and mostly just reasons for the main actors to give cameos.
@@Longshanks1690 season 2 was in development up until telltale crashed and burned. so yeah maybe the show falling off didn't have much to do with it but neither did poor sales really. it's difficult to make a game like this, because it's choice based but it's also cannon. personally i think they did a pretty good job of balancing relevance to the main story without having choices that could potentially affect the book or show. one of the better telltale releases imo
@@theeobee Eh, I wouldn’t say it was “in development” much as S1 was released in 2014 and Telltale filed for bankruptcy in 2018 with basically 0 new information about S2 in that time. Maybe they might have done eventually but it was definitely a project put on the backburner as they focused on other things, and I think that was largely driven by their financial situation which GOT didn’t help. So while cancelling any of their series would have been a bad idea, it seems clear to me that it was in development hell and De Facto cancelled as it wasn’t given any go ahead compared to other projects. I also don’t think canonicity was an issue as they’d set up a story pretty cut off from the rest of Thrones’ world as the events of this conflict wouldn’t spill over into anything else or need to rely on always be referencing what happens in the main series. It was a part of it, obviously, but not to its detriment, imo at least.
@@theeobee it isn’t canon, George has specifically said only the books are canon, this exists in a limbo between books and show and is canon to neither.
@@RyanMockler I'm pretty sure I read this game is canon to the show and not the books. I don't think you can infer your conclusion by George telling the books are the only real version of the story in how it was meant.
it's crazy how despite the striking success the ip enjoyed over the last 10+ years the best a song of ice and fire game is still either modded warband or modded crusader kings 2
Gared went from the Twins to the North past Freys, Boltons and Ironborn in such a quick time the blood lord Forrester spilt with that greatsword hadn't dried yet.
He managed to get from The Twins up to The Wolfswood on foot. Apparently, he managed to avoid Frey/Bolton hunting parties The Ironborn occupying the moat and traversed the neck without dying in a swamp or getting mauled by a crocodile. He also did this all without food and water.
Please do the second half of the game, it'll be a hilarious stream, that's when the game really goes off the rails and your choices become absurdly irrelevant
This game is my first introduction to any ASOIAF media. I never watched the TV show but TellTale sold a package deal where you got all their games from one year for like £60. I had no idea who Tyrion or Daenerys were
Telltale games *CAN* be good, the problem is they're mostly written with one outcome in mind and the choices really don't matter much, if you want a good TT game, please please play 'The Wolf Among Us'
I don't remember the decision tree entirely, but I smelled a red herring with the knight's abrasiveness, and I think choosing him is a slightly better outcome.
Duncan never said you SHOULD tbf, just that it’s something which HAS been done in the past during times of hardship, so that Ethan would be aware of the option. Talking to some of the other characters like Malcolm or Talia is probably better for informing your decision than asking Royland and Duncan themselves. One big thing in Duncan’s favor is that Lord Gregor trusted him and him alone with the secret of the North Grove, not Royland.
It’s by far less evil to cut the fingers off a thief (aka give them the normal ass punishment of the time) then to just tyrannically seize food from the peasents after they’ve already given their monthly tribute or whatever
Man this game is just wild. They crammed every archetype they from GOT they could. The Young lord, the injured but strong lord, the exiled lordling, the daughter in King's Landing, the guy who seems diplomatic is a traitor, frankly cartoonish amounts of death... And it's all just a BIT off kilter.
Forrester is actually in the books surprisingly, I remember only because I very recently was rereading Dance and was shocked to see that it was actually mentioned in the series
I think the low polygon look comes from the way that TellTale games tried to presenf their games. Rather than having it look super realistic for whatever was the standard at the time. Maybe it hasn't aged well but I appreciate that they were trying to go for their own unique style.
From the Wiki, these were the stats on the decisions in Volume 1. You guys were in the minority to chop the dude's fingers, but everyone loves Uncle Duncan! Stayed with Bowen - 54.2% of players Left Bowen behind - 45.8% of players Swore loyalty to the king - 69.2% of players Supported Margaery - 30.8% of players Freed Erik - 43.4% of players Sent Erik to The Wall - 38.5% of players Cut Erik's fingers off - 18.1% of players Picked Duncan as Sentinel - 62.8% of players Picked Royland as Sentinel - 37.2% of players Met Ramsay at the Great Hall - 59.7% of players Met Ramsay at the gate - 40.3% of players
"Love" is a strong word for how anyone feels about a character from this game. I imagine most people are largely indifferent but just chose to side with the less rude guy.
46:38 "It's like...... Huh? Did you think I'm paying attention?" Funniest part of the stream so far, I focking love Glidus. Also we need more of this series.
Gared being able to ask questions like "Who is the Lord now?" and "Why do the Whitehills hate the Forresters" is really dumb when they come after him claiming he was raised alongside the Forresters and treated by the Lady as if he was one of their own. He would know these things, so giving the exposition scenes to him is really dumb. They could have very easily just had him as some commoner peasant who lived on the edge of their lands, with him never having met the family aside from the Lord and Rodrik. His uncle could still be the Steward, which is why he's treated well by the Forresters when he arrives wounded and why they fight for his survival, but it would also make him distant enough to not really know the family that well, or know the laws of succession that much, or know the importance of the sword, or know why there is emnity between the Forresters and the Whitehills. His relation to the Forresters isn't even important as he's sent to the Wall and never comes back or interacts with another Forrester again. But of course that had to put in the line that the Forresters treated this lowly peasant as if he was one of the family, because they're the good guys and we have to know that, they treat everyone equally (besides being feudal overlords who have absolute power over their peasants).
Be careful when you talk about Tommy Tallarico, he has been involved in more than 350 games over his carrer and is definitely the first American to work on Sonic the Hedgehog francise. He also was featured on MTV Cribs at least 3 times, i swear
This game had so much potential, but they focused on trying to be bigger than they should have been, as well as just getting as many cameos from the show as possible. It could have been so much better with just two changes. One: Remove Mira's storyline in King's Landing. It makes no sense that she would be Margaery Tyrell's handmaiden, either before, during, or after the first phase of the War of the Five Kings. Change it so she was Sansa's handmaiden and she got imprisoned as a hostage to deter House Forrester from fighting (it didn't work). Introduce her in the second episode, right after the Purple Wedding, being interrogated over Sansa's disappearance, and then have House Lannister send her to the North to marry a Whitehill, the heir to Highpoint, allowing the Whitehills to stake a claim on Ironrath lands, benefitting the house that helped the Lannisters and weakening the house that helped the Starks. From there, we can get another perspective in the story, a girl who has spent the past year or two in prison, and all the trauma that causes, as well as one who knows nothing of what has happened in that time. We would also get a perspective into House Whitehill, allowing us to sympathize with them, maybe they are dicks but the heir grows thanks to Mira and becomes a better person by the end of the first season, complicating the blood feud. House Whitehill could also be permitted to visit the rebuilding Winterfell under House Bolton, keeping Ramsey around in the cast and showing that in the face of House Bolton, the Whitehills are actually pretty decent, and maybe swaying them slowly against House Bolton, maybe in support of Stannis or something, again further complicating relationships. Mira herself could even begin to side with her new house, after all, who knows what bad things could have happened to her in prison as punishment for her father going to war, she may feel betrayed by House Forrester, and so more inclined to help the Whitehills. She could give them information that they don't know about Ironrath, she could become very valuable to them for various reasons, her womb and her knowledge and her status, and so she could have some bargaining power there, she could learn to stand up for herself and, with all these arcs going on, she could earn their respect and become a proper player in the political game of thrones. Just like what the King's Landing plot tried to do, but now it's far more tight and streamlined. And, since it's a choose-your-ending kind of story, depending on how well you play Mira and how good at the politicking you make her and how you choose for her to handle her trauma, it can have various endings. You could end up with her having no agency and just being their broodmare as her original house is destroyed, you could have her becoming equals with her husband and leading the charge of change, you could have her getting herself killed in many different ways or even executed is she plays it very poorly (like they end up with Talia who is just far easier to control), or maybe she finally escapes and ends the season on the run. Any of which is more interesting than any of her original endings. Two: Remove the Beyond-the-Wall storyline. The North Grove is a bad idea and clearly they had no idea where they were going with it, it would either entirely break the lore, or would be pathetically unimportant in the grand scheme of things. They just wanted to go bigger with it, more fantasy, but had no endgame. So, instead of Gared having the whole North Grove plotline, he just stays with the Night's Watch. He engages in the politics up there. Telltale games are not great action games, but they can be good choice games if they actually commit to big decisions, and politics are the biggest of decisions. Gared meets the Whitehill man who is also sent to the Wall and grows from that. The whole point of the storyline of the Wall ought to be that unity is better than disunity. Gared has to try and befriend his rival. He could also go out ranging and maybe come across a child and have an epsiode where he is protective of them or something, extending the idea of empathy and unity to the wildlings. It could then have the late season battle be the Watchers on the Wall great battle, followed by Stannis's arrival and Stannis asking Gared about the Forresters, as well as Jon asking Gared to help him with the peace between the wildlings, before they are betrayed, potentially by that Whitehill man depending on how well you befriended him or not. There are choices here that can change how the story at the Wall plays out. He can help the unity between the wildlings and the brothers or he can harm it, he can befriend the Whitehill man or he can fail at that, he can send Stannis towards the Forresters to help them or he can not (maybe he is sour about the Forresters sending him to take the black), or he can send Stannis to House Whitehill if he does not like Stannis (which could be more interesting if the Whitehills have actually begun to turn on the Boltons thanks to Mira), there could even be a wildling woman or man (the mother or father of the wildling child he saved) that Gared could have a romance with to help the themes of unity. The first season could end with Stannis marching into the North and Jon being betrayed, with possibilities of what could happen next being very exciting. And of course, there would be a dozen different endings for Ironrath in the first season, and that would also dramatically impact the next season in regards to Stannis's march and the Winterfell plotlines and whatever goes on at the Wall. Those two changes can streamline the whole story, keeping it focused on House Forrester in ways that can clearly tie back to them in future seasons. The only separate plotline would be Asher, who I think should have a changed story as well but in different ways, but he would still be in Essos as he will represent the Fire in the Ice & Fire of it all, and so he can bring over some original characters who will represent that side of things if Asher dies near the end, which could further complicate things later down the line with Stannis or the Boltons or even the arrival of Dany and such. Regardless, everything should still revolve around the politics of House Forrester and Ironrath, that is the focal point of the game.
These are great ideas. I also thought it made no sense that Mira was Margery's handmaid. North grove was not a good idea. If you must have a magical aspect make someone a warg.
@@maryssaflynn3208 So true! Have a character be a warg, and also have there be a dragon's egg discovered somewhere in Ironrath, so it ties into both the Ice and Fire of it all. There are tales of the dragons laying eggs at Winterfell or the Wall, and Ironrath is not far from those. The egg doesn't even need to hatch, it can just be a valuable thing that people want to buy or sell, and the idea of it hatching adds to the suspense.
I love it when u guys collab. Could u guys finish the asoiaf/hotd alignment, but with dragons included. Where does the spicy noodle dragon fit in and why is he the most morally upright character.
If you guys could somehow put together a bunch of other GoT youtubers and play the GoT TTRPG that would be incredible. It would need to be like a whole series though and I don't think a bunch of youtubers that are doing their own stuff would go for that for very long. But maybe. Also, that is set in the period after Bobby's rebellion that you described, I'm pretty sure.
i actually want to play this now due to you guys! this was too freaking funny, i want a 2nd stream of this. your reactions were the best. fun fact, the forrester characters appear in the CK2 AGoT Mod!
Ngl, it infuriates me when the first thing he did that was close to a real choise was to trust a MAESTER, when we ALL know they are the most scheming group of people in Westeros.
Lie to Cersi Margery will remember that I will take your advice and meet him at the gate YOU ARE NOT READY TO BE LORD I wonder why they went out of business.
That was actually very enjoyable. The game is good enough to sustain some tension, had a great twist in the end and as pointed out, the celebrity characters support the game as a whole quite well - on top of silly moments and dialogue being stupid enough to be still enjoyable. Not to mention that with you two silly goofballs providing interesting meta/ trivia knowledge, your humor and playing off each other works so goddamn well. I know live streams are a big commitment of time and effort and it can be hard coordinating 2 adults to find time and energy to do content together, but I would strongly encourage you to reeeeeally extent your coop-content. I love both your channels individually but the S+ content is your collaborations, the deep knowledge and involvment in the material really compliment your rather carefree and humerous way of living in the moment.
I loved this game when I watched a 12 hour long play of it. *It's like watching one of your theory discussion videos when I haven't read the books myself, only gorged on Schwift's Abridged audio books.*
I actually really hope you guys finish this game, such a fun stream! Regardless of how mediocre a lot of these telltale games are, they're very nostalgic and I have a lot of good memories of all of them.
Rule #1 about this game - everyone is a psychopath. From one moment to the next, they flip from one emotion to the other, betray everyone and anyone, and do whatever the plot wants them.
Random fun fact: maggots being used medicinally is still a thing it’s called maggot therapy. They only eat dead flesh and can clean infected wounds often faster and more effectively than a scalpel. I’m not entirely sure how they remove them but they grow pretty fast (usually they’re really small when put in like the size of a grain of rice) so I assume after a little while you can just like,,, pick them out once they have cleared the dead material
Played this game before ever seeing the show or reading the books. Enjoyed it so much I decided to watch the show (I was like 13, and this was just after S6 came out). Ramsay was my favourite character from this game and I was so hyped when I heard he was in the show. Funny enough I hated both Margaery and Dany in this game but I like them in the show.
I cried uncontrollably when the game revealed that the concept of feudalism itself is a horse.
This comment is horrifically underrated, first prize!
What does this mean
What is this referencing lol
@@r.s.asangarb5345 watch the Glidus video on Fake ASOIAF Theories.
You’re welcome.
@@r.s.asangarb5345 tybalt lannister was last seen ahorse
This game is wild. The ending where it turns out you were the shrouded lord is insane
The sex scene with Illyrio was a bit much
@@callyk-pax3676 I thought Illyrio's boypussy was quite well png'd
you, the player, was azur ahai the whole time! (and gay)
I couldn't believe it when the night king shows up and rapes you
I didn’t know that you were actually hot pie the whole time
House Forrester is actually mentioned in A Dance with Dragons, exactly one time.
Since this got some traction here's the passage in A Dance with Dragons, chapter 42, The King's Prize.
"The army covered twenty-two miles the first day, by the reckoning of the guides Lady Sybelle had given them, trackers and hunters sworn to Deepwood with clan names like Forrester and Woods, Branch and Bole." - Asha Greyjoy
@@muckymucks fits pretty well. Small ass house, only noticed when in a boiling pot with other houses.
@@muckymucks I remember reading it and doing the Leonardo Dicaprio reaction meme
@@hyndquart5241 Not even a house, a clan of Wolfwoodsmen, similar to the clans of the Northern Mountains; The Wulls, Liddles, Knotts, Flints, etc.
@@Hatypus It's bcz Asha is an ironwoman. Ironlanders are divided in clans so that She describe them as clans.
The horse that killed Rodrik Forrester was Howland Reed (time travel)
So it wasn't Tyrek Lannister? :O
@@LuzikArbuzik77 Tyrek Lannister would have finished the job. Hopefully Schwifty and Glimbo do the rest of the game because it's only around 6 hours long, and the story gets a lot more interesting as it develops
@@LuzikArbuzik77 I didn't say that... HR = TL = a horse
@@morgand820 now that makes sense
@@slimaaconroy I would like to see it, I've only played the first episode before and I have no idea what to expect later
"It's us, we are the game of thrones Mira"
My favorite moment of the game honestly, heart breaking
And then when Mira said "No...
No. All we are...is a feast for crows..." I literally wept till I was out of tears.
@@joshuajackson530 And then they said "Oh no, we are in a Storm of Swords" A true masterpiece!
When Jon yelled from the top of the wall "WINTER IS CUMMING...OHH...OHHHHHHHHHHHHH" was a tear jerker.
This game somehow has both more and less polygons then I remember
(In Stannis´ voice) "Fewer."
@@friedipar "What?"
"Nothing."
This game was actually very low-budget, outside of paying HBO for the licence rights. It came out that TellTale Games (the development team) was actually under an insane level of crunch around this time, with employees going unpaid for overtime work, and a bunch of other workplace horror stories. Frankly, the fact the game is even remotely not the worst thing ever is a miracle.
@@HOTD108_The game looks much worse here than I've ever seen it. So I'm thinking it's being played on a crappy PC
17:45 For a second I thought the insane graphics of the intro stunned them into silence
this game is actually technically cannon friendly. there was gonna be a second season but shit really started to get off the rails with the show, not to mention telltale fucking fell apart tragically
I don’t think it was anything to do with the show as much as the game sold poorly, even in comparison to Telltale’s other games and then, yeah, Telltale as a whole.
The tie ins to the main story were very limited and mostly just reasons for the main actors to give cameos.
@@Longshanks1690 season 2 was in development up until telltale crashed and burned. so yeah maybe the show falling off didn't have much to do with it but neither did poor sales really.
it's difficult to make a game like this, because it's choice based but it's also cannon. personally i think they did a pretty good job of balancing relevance to the main story without having choices that could potentially affect the book or show. one of the better telltale releases imo
@@theeobee Eh, I wouldn’t say it was “in development” much as S1 was released in 2014 and Telltale filed for bankruptcy in 2018 with basically 0 new information about S2 in that time. Maybe they might have done eventually but it was definitely a project put on the backburner as they focused on other things, and I think that was largely driven by their financial situation which GOT didn’t help. So while cancelling any of their series would have been a bad idea, it seems clear to me that it was in development hell and De Facto cancelled as it wasn’t given any go ahead compared to other projects.
I also don’t think canonicity was an issue as they’d set up a story pretty cut off from the rest of Thrones’ world as the events of this conflict wouldn’t spill over into anything else or need to rely on always be referencing what happens in the main series. It was a part of it, obviously, but not to its detriment, imo at least.
@@theeobee it isn’t canon, George has specifically said only the books are canon, this exists in a limbo between books and show and is canon to neither.
@@RyanMockler I'm pretty sure I read this game is canon to the show and not the books. I don't think you can infer your conclusion by George telling the books are the only real version of the story in how it was meant.
Two whole hours of schlingus and shafty missing important dialogue
Not really.
Glombus and Schwifto are official co-op gamers now. We will watch your careers with great interest.
it's crazy how despite the striking success the ip enjoyed over the last 10+ years the best a song of ice and fire game is still either modded warband or modded crusader kings 2
Truth
The choices have you made put you solidly on the path toward the Grumpkin Ending.
Gared went from the Twins to the North past Freys, Boltons and Ironborn in such a quick time the blood lord Forrester spilt with that greatsword hadn't dried yet.
He managed to get from The Twins up to The Wolfswood on foot. Apparently, he managed to avoid Frey/Bolton hunting parties The Ironborn occupying the moat and traversed the neck without dying in a swamp or getting mauled by a crocodile. He also did this all without food and water.
@@palantiri6590he clearly did all this ahorse
@@willson1908 Gared is clearly a horse. 🐴
@@willson1908nah mate gared tuttle is actually the son of Gendry, thus inheriting his sound-shattering speed
Lord Forrester actually survived and became the hooded man
Please do the second half of the game, it'll be a hilarious stream, that's when the game really goes off the rails and your choices become absurdly irrelevant
Couldn’t believe they didn’t notice the body with a spear or pitchfork poking out of it, which was meant to be Garrett’s sister.
"...where was I"? "You weren't born yet"! Glidus: You f**kin idiot! 😂😂 Glidus' response kills me everytime 😂😂 49:47
Glidus is an international treasure and must be protected at all costs
Technically House Forrester _is_ in the books
I was fully prepared for this comment to say "...is a horse"
This game is my first introduction to any ASOIAF media. I never watched the TV show but TellTale sold a package deal where you got all their games from one year for like £60. I had no idea who Tyrion or Daenerys were
And it brought you to Glidus x Schwifty. Never forgive GRRM.
I played the game before I watched the show and didn’t realise how much I spoiled the show for myself until I watched it
So, did you like it?
@@HOTD108_ Yeah I enjoyed it enough to actually check out Game of Thrones after a while. It definitely made watching the show interesting
Same here, the intro made me look up the real intro and from there I started watching the show.
Mind blown. In this game, Euron was the friends we made along the way
Telltale games *CAN* be good, the problem is they're mostly written with one outcome in mind and the choices really don't matter much, if you want a good TT game, please please play 'The Wolf Among Us'
“The Allister guy is obviously evil” yeah but Duncan was saying you should take food from the peasants!
The best guy ever!
I don't remember the decision tree entirely, but I smelled a red herring with the knight's abrasiveness, and I think choosing him is a slightly better outcome.
Duncan never said you SHOULD tbf, just that it’s something which HAS been done in the past during times of hardship, so that Ethan would be aware of the option. Talking to some of the other characters like Malcolm or Talia is probably better for informing your decision than asking Royland and Duncan themselves.
One big thing in Duncan’s favor is that Lord Gregor trusted him and him alone with the secret of the North Grove, not Royland.
It’s by far less evil to cut the fingers off a thief (aka give them the normal ass punishment of the time) then to just tyrannically seize food from the peasents after they’ve already given their monthly tribute or whatever
It's a shame that no matter who you choose, the story is still the same, only their roles are reversed. I prefer Royland cause he's badass
Any plans to finish this? This was a really fun watch so I'd love a full playthrough
There is only one episode sadly
@@alphahollow5642 they just started yesterday bron
@@mementomori771 I meant the game has only one episode. Telltale bankrupted before they can make more
@@alphahollow5642 this is not true
@@alphahollow5642 there’s 6 episodes, they released a whole season and never got to season 2.
Man this game is just wild. They crammed every archetype they from GOT they could. The Young lord, the injured but strong lord, the exiled lordling, the daughter in King's Landing, the guy who seems diplomatic is a traitor, frankly cartoonish amounts of death... And it's all just a BIT off kilter.
Forrester is actually in the books surprisingly, I remember only because I very recently was rereading Dance and was shocked to see that it was actually mentioned in the series
GRRM was paying homage.
I think the low polygon look comes from the way that TellTale games tried to presenf their games. Rather than having it look super realistic for whatever was the standard at the time. Maybe it hasn't aged well but I appreciate that they were trying to go for their own unique style.
Please continue this playthrough, it was so much fun
At last, "I played every Asoiaf game and became the king of bad to mediocre games"
Whats your fav GOT game that you recommend for us to get?
@@bonbonvegabon The game of thrones mod for CK2
@@bonbonvegabon the game is literally just called "Game of Thrones", the gameplay isn't great but the story was written by George and is top tier
@@lurksnitchtongue8986I remember watching things about that years ago
Every day we get one step closer to my dream of Schwift and Glimbo playing dungeons and dragons together
20:00 I can't believe they both walked right past "hamicide".
From the Wiki, these were the stats on the decisions in Volume 1. You guys were in the minority to chop the dude's fingers, but everyone loves Uncle Duncan!
Stayed with Bowen - 54.2% of players
Left Bowen behind - 45.8% of players
Swore loyalty to the king - 69.2% of players
Supported Margaery - 30.8% of players
Freed Erik - 43.4% of players
Sent Erik to The Wall - 38.5% of players
Cut Erik's fingers off - 18.1% of players
Picked Duncan as Sentinel - 62.8% of players
Picked Royland as Sentinel - 37.2% of players
Met Ramsay at the Great Hall - 59.7% of players
Met Ramsay at the gate - 40.3% of players
"Love" is a strong word for how anyone feels about a character from this game. I imagine most people are largely indifferent but just chose to side with the less rude guy.
46:38 "It's like...... Huh? Did you think I'm paying attention?" Funniest part of the stream so far, I focking love Glidus. Also we need more of this series.
Worth watching for two hours for the "Mind Goblin"
Yo that part was hilarious. I’ve been ligma-ed!
Gared being able to ask questions like "Who is the Lord now?" and "Why do the Whitehills hate the Forresters" is really dumb when they come after him claiming he was raised alongside the Forresters and treated by the Lady as if he was one of their own. He would know these things, so giving the exposition scenes to him is really dumb. They could have very easily just had him as some commoner peasant who lived on the edge of their lands, with him never having met the family aside from the Lord and Rodrik. His uncle could still be the Steward, which is why he's treated well by the Forresters when he arrives wounded and why they fight for his survival, but it would also make him distant enough to not really know the family that well, or know the laws of succession that much, or know the importance of the sword, or know why there is emnity between the Forresters and the Whitehills. His relation to the Forresters isn't even important as he's sent to the Wall and never comes back or interacts with another Forrester again. But of course that had to put in the line that the Forresters treated this lowly peasant as if he was one of the family, because they're the good guys and we have to know that, they treat everyone equally (besides being feudal overlords who have absolute power over their peasants).
Need part two inject it into my veins..
Be careful when you talk about Tommy Tallarico, he has been involved in more than 350 games over his carrer and is definitely the first American to work on Sonic the Hedgehog francise. He also was featured on MTV Cribs at least 3 times, i swear
His mother must be very proud
I think that's the guy who scored the Avatar movies
And he’s got 69 Guinness World Records!
By far my favourite episode of Cribs of all time. The fountain made me have to pee, though.
Hbomberguy fans crossover XD
In the books ramsay became lord of the hornwood before he was legitimised so "lord snow" is accurate.
This game had so much potential, but they focused on trying to be bigger than they should have been, as well as just getting as many cameos from the show as possible.
It could have been so much better with just two changes.
One: Remove Mira's storyline in King's Landing.
It makes no sense that she would be Margaery Tyrell's handmaiden, either before, during, or after the first phase of the War of the Five Kings. Change it so she was Sansa's handmaiden and she got imprisoned as a hostage to deter House Forrester from fighting (it didn't work).
Introduce her in the second episode, right after the Purple Wedding, being interrogated over Sansa's disappearance, and then have House Lannister send her to the North to marry a Whitehill, the heir to Highpoint, allowing the Whitehills to stake a claim on Ironrath lands, benefitting the house that helped the Lannisters and weakening the house that helped the Starks. From there, we can get another perspective in the story, a girl who has spent the past year or two in prison, and all the trauma that causes, as well as one who knows nothing of what has happened in that time. We would also get a perspective into House Whitehill, allowing us to sympathize with them, maybe they are dicks but the heir grows thanks to Mira and becomes a better person by the end of the first season, complicating the blood feud.
House Whitehill could also be permitted to visit the rebuilding Winterfell under House Bolton, keeping Ramsey around in the cast and showing that in the face of House Bolton, the Whitehills are actually pretty decent, and maybe swaying them slowly against House Bolton, maybe in support of Stannis or something, again further complicating relationships.
Mira herself could even begin to side with her new house, after all, who knows what bad things could have happened to her in prison as punishment for her father going to war, she may feel betrayed by House Forrester, and so more inclined to help the Whitehills. She could give them information that they don't know about Ironrath, she could become very valuable to them for various reasons, her womb and her knowledge and her status, and so she could have some bargaining power there, she could learn to stand up for herself and, with all these arcs going on, she could earn their respect and become a proper player in the political game of thrones. Just like what the King's Landing plot tried to do, but now it's far more tight and streamlined.
And, since it's a choose-your-ending kind of story, depending on how well you play Mira and how good at the politicking you make her and how you choose for her to handle her trauma, it can have various endings. You could end up with her having no agency and just being their broodmare as her original house is destroyed, you could have her becoming equals with her husband and leading the charge of change, you could have her getting herself killed in many different ways or even executed is she plays it very poorly (like they end up with Talia who is just far easier to control), or maybe she finally escapes and ends the season on the run. Any of which is more interesting than any of her original endings.
Two: Remove the Beyond-the-Wall storyline.
The North Grove is a bad idea and clearly they had no idea where they were going with it, it would either entirely break the lore, or would be pathetically unimportant in the grand scheme of things. They just wanted to go bigger with it, more fantasy, but had no endgame. So, instead of Gared having the whole North Grove plotline, he just stays with the Night's Watch. He engages in the politics up there. Telltale games are not great action games, but they can be good choice games if they actually commit to big decisions, and politics are the biggest of decisions.
Gared meets the Whitehill man who is also sent to the Wall and grows from that. The whole point of the storyline of the Wall ought to be that unity is better than disunity. Gared has to try and befriend his rival. He could also go out ranging and maybe come across a child and have an epsiode where he is protective of them or something, extending the idea of empathy and unity to the wildlings. It could then have the late season battle be the Watchers on the Wall great battle, followed by Stannis's arrival and Stannis asking Gared about the Forresters, as well as Jon asking Gared to help him with the peace between the wildlings, before they are betrayed, potentially by that Whitehill man depending on how well you befriended him or not.
There are choices here that can change how the story at the Wall plays out. He can help the unity between the wildlings and the brothers or he can harm it, he can befriend the Whitehill man or he can fail at that, he can send Stannis towards the Forresters to help them or he can not (maybe he is sour about the Forresters sending him to take the black), or he can send Stannis to House Whitehill if he does not like Stannis (which could be more interesting if the Whitehills have actually begun to turn on the Boltons thanks to Mira), there could even be a wildling woman or man (the mother or father of the wildling child he saved) that Gared could have a romance with to help the themes of unity.
The first season could end with Stannis marching into the North and Jon being betrayed, with possibilities of what could happen next being very exciting. And of course, there would be a dozen different endings for Ironrath in the first season, and that would also dramatically impact the next season in regards to Stannis's march and the Winterfell plotlines and whatever goes on at the Wall.
Those two changes can streamline the whole story, keeping it focused on House Forrester in ways that can clearly tie back to them in future seasons. The only separate plotline would be Asher, who I think should have a changed story as well but in different ways, but he would still be in Essos as he will represent the Fire in the Ice & Fire of it all, and so he can bring over some original characters who will represent that side of things if Asher dies near the end, which could further complicate things later down the line with Stannis or the Boltons or even the arrival of Dany and such. Regardless, everything should still revolve around the politics of House Forrester and Ironrath, that is the focal point of the game.
No one has commented on this yet but DAMN, these are actually great ideas that would've improved the game
It's all very well thought out
These are great ideas. I also thought it made no sense that Mira was Margery's handmaid. North grove was not a good idea. If you must have a magical aspect make someone a warg.
@@maryssaflynn3208 So true! Have a character be a warg, and also have there be a dragon's egg discovered somewhere in Ironrath, so it ties into both the Ice and Fire of it all. There are tales of the dragons laying eggs at Winterfell or the Wall, and Ironrath is not far from those. The egg doesn't even need to hatch, it can just be a valuable thing that people want to buy or sell, and the idea of it hatching adds to the suspense.
Can't believe my favorite Funcles are getting together to play games
The main character in the first episode looks like shrek as a human from shrek 2
Sad I missed this live but am soooo excited to watch now
Always love when you two do a stream together. Thanks gents.
This was actually really good it's a shame they didn't continue with it I would have loved to have seen more.
It's literally been 10 days these guys take months to edit videos
@@miketrujillo3677 I was talking about Telltale GOT I would have loved a season 2
What about this game do you consider good?
@@HOTD108_ I like new ASOIAF Lore and having it visualized. Could easily see the Whitehill vs Forresters rivalry being a canon story.
@@HOTD108_ the story. It was good.
My Watch for episode 2 continues...
Please do more of this!!
I love it when u guys collab. Could u guys finish the asoiaf/hotd alignment, but with dragons included. Where does the spicy noodle dragon fit in and why is he the most morally upright character.
Second this
I want part 2 of that video so badly
If you guys could somehow put together a bunch of other GoT youtubers and play the GoT TTRPG that would be incredible. It would need to be like a whole series though and I don't think a bunch of youtubers that are doing their own stuff would go for that for very long. But maybe. Also, that is set in the period after Bobby's rebellion that you described, I'm pretty sure.
A crown of candy already exists. It's a Game of Thrones style DnD campaign set in candyland.
a oneshot campaign would be nice.
We need 2nd part. This was too much fun.
I dunno why “These guys have the horn of winter” tickles me so bad
i actually want to play this now due to you guys! this was too freaking funny, i want a 2nd stream of this. your reactions were the best.
fun fact, the forrester characters appear in the CK2 AGoT Mod!
i’ve been dreaming about this without even knowing
Really want the next part this was to funny guys
Need a part 2
Would love to see more do you think you’ll do the next episode??
glidus and schwift are genuinely one of my favorite comedy duos of all time. thank you lads. yall should play sea of thieves.
Correction. House Forrester is mentioned in the books but nothing is known about them.
Anxiously waiting for part 2!
I love that you are doing this. I wouldnt call the game good, but there is some fun to be had with some of the story
Would really love to see part two I think you two would love where this goes
I hope this series continues. I think there are actually some interesting ideas even if the writing is not top notch. Commentary good as usual
Please do more. This was an incredibly entertaining podca... I mean let's play.
Dude i freaking loved this game and was so sad they cancelled the sequel
Ngl, it infuriates me when the first thing he did that was close to a real choise was to trust a MAESTER, when we ALL know they are the most scheming group of people in Westeros.
God this was so much fun to watch. I’d love a full playthrough. It’s so entertaining to see ASOIAF experts playing this game
2:03:27 I love Schwifty's "what the fuck?!" LOL
Lie to Cersi
Margery will remember that
I will take your advice and meet him at the gate
YOU ARE NOT READY TO BE LORD
I wonder why they went out of business.
That was actually very enjoyable. The game is good enough to sustain some tension, had a great twist in the end and as pointed out, the celebrity characters support the game as a whole quite well - on top of silly moments and dialogue being stupid enough to be still enjoyable. Not to mention that with you two silly goofballs providing interesting meta/ trivia knowledge, your humor and playing off each other works so goddamn well. I know live streams are a big commitment of time and effort and it can be hard coordinating 2 adults to find time and energy to do content together, but I would strongly encourage you to reeeeeally extent your coop-content. I love both your channels individually but the S+ content is your collaborations, the deep knowledge and involvment in the material really compliment your rather carefree and humerous way of living in the moment.
MILLY ALCOCKS NOSE PODCAST!!!!!
Can we get episode 2?
‘It’s Forrestin time’ my favourite line.
Hope they stream more, i genuinely loved playing this game myself and it’s hilarious to see experts play it.
Please play the other episodes too, this was really fun
We need part two… for Aegon??
Please play more of the game 🐴
I loved this game when I watched a 12 hour long play of it. *It's like watching one of your theory discussion videos when I haven't read the books myself, only gorged on Schwift's Abridged audio books.*
Cant wait for part two! I have played this game like 5 years ago, but watching you two playing is a lot more entertaining.
Yes! I'm loving the frequency of streams from you two lately, please keep it up!
Would love to see another episode of this!
I think I heard somewhere the maggots only eat the dead flesh which is convenient, although putting maggots in a wound at all feels counterintuitive
Seeing this game played in 2023 is so surreal.
I actually really hope you guys finish this game, such a fun stream! Regardless of how mediocre a lot of these telltale games are, they're very nostalgic and I have a lot of good memories of all of them.
Please do the next story for this! This game is awesome!!!!
"What if the Starks didn't have Dire Wolves" 🤣👏
It would be great if you could continue this playthrough, it's really entertaining and the game itself has its distinct charm.
I watched this game when it first came out, the fact that it's almost 10 years old at this point is a little startling 😂😱
1:33:09 Game of Thrones mod for Crusader Kings 2 is the ultimate ASOIAF game.
Didn’t realize ASX and Gil actually talked to each other, W
Please play more this is the best video I have seen in a long time
Rule #1 about this game - everyone is a psychopath. From one moment to the next, they flip from one emotion to the other, betray everyone and anyone, and do whatever the plot wants them.
I actually find this game really fun, I’d love to see you play more!!
This came out at the peak of my got love. And I lived every minute.
Love this game. The Brown Ben Plumm reveal in the last chapter is mind-blowing.
Random fun fact: maggots being used medicinally is still a thing it’s called maggot therapy. They only eat dead flesh and can clean infected wounds often faster and more effectively than a scalpel. I’m not entirely sure how they remove them but they grow pretty fast (usually they’re really small when put in like the size of a grain of rice) so I assume after a little while you can just like,,, pick them out once they have cleared the dead material
Would love to see more of this series!
Please keep this up it’s great
bro please do episode 2 im begging u
you guys should definitely play the next episode it gets more chaotic
You guys actually found a way to make this game entertaining. Please play the whole series
Played this game before ever seeing the show or reading the books. Enjoyed it so much I decided to watch the show (I was like 13, and this was just after S6 came out). Ramsay was my favourite character from this game and I was so hyped when I heard he was in the show. Funny enough I hated both Margaery and Dany in this game but I like them in the show.
My favorite part was when Lord Forrester was revealed to be Qaith