When I was in high school, we used to make a fire like that on our sledding hill. Plenty of room for everyone to stand around it since you couldn't get much closer than ten feet. Slide down, walk back up, warm up, and go again. We'd see steam coming off us as the fire dried our coats and jeans. Fun times.
Apprently if you put dirt/soil in the gaps on each layer, the fire would last all night as is slows the burn. (saw in another video) Would be a good side by side test with a time lapse.
Yea, soil to seal the layers, so sparks can not drop to the lower layer too soon. Lasts much longer with soil sealing the cracks between the wood. I saw the same video.
Thanks very much Seoul, really happy to hear you enjoyed it. I put quite a bit of work into this video so it's really nice when I get positive comments like this. Thank you for watching my friend 🌲☺️🌲
Nice explanation and video! I almost always build upside down fires, although not with as many levels as you have here. I do this in my wood stove, and in my fire pit in the back yard, and the same camping. I'll often put two or three larger oak logs on the bottom, with air gaps, and then build up with cedar above. By the time the cedar burns down and ignites the oak, I have plenty of coals, so then I can just add two more pieces of oak at a time for a nice solid fire, not too hot, not too cold. Learned this from the farmers almanac 50+ years ago....
With hard wood 3 ft long to start, and dirt in the cracks... it can last 45 hrs. I've seen it. Even with pine you can make it last all night. Very good skill to have😊
Thanks man. Going to Wales this NYE and its going to rain/snow so will be high up in the forests. Never tried one of these but going to give it a go. Plenty of wood up there.
Wonderful video, cousin. Very informative. Thank you for sharing. Hoping you and yours are having a wonderful holiday. Wishing you nothing but the best in the year to come. Take care 💚🍀🌲💮 🎇🎉
Thanks Babs, having a good holiday yes, weather has been miserable here though, rain, rain and more rain ha, oh and some good old wind too ha ha. Happy Christmas and New year to you and yours also. 🌲😊☘️🌲
This style also works well on a much smaller scale; a wire cylinder ten to twelve inches high, wide as you want -hardwood - little smoke, no sparks, let’s me use it under a tarp or pop-up canopy, near the front, to have a fire nearby.
When I first saw that fire demonsrated, the instructor packed earth between the cracks, along the length of the logs. Nice dry logs like yours. He did the same along all the layers and said it would burn all night. Boy was right like. Latvian lad called Arturo. He was a braw lad. Gave hime a lift to his road end wi his pal Victor, in the pissing rain in like march, offerd to run him the extra half mile home and he said," Andrew, we are not made of sugar, we are MEN!"
Men don't turn down an additional 30 second car ride when they have already been in the car for a long ride. Those were intelligent boys but with something to prove. Real men don't need to prove to a random person that they are men.
Pro tip is to use wet wood on bottom layer. By the time it gets there the heat will dry them out and burn slowly also damp ground below slows the burn rate. If you need a cooking fire just harvest coals from top. If you need quick heat use the small pine twigs for a mini while you are cutting larger. You can also use much longer bottom logs and when the fire gets down there just slowly push them into the center.
personally my favourite fire lay, Birch split up with some holly or pine kindling through the levels will do it good fire lay for damp winter cooking for mulit dayers leaves a nice bed of good embers
That's one that I like too, but yeah long time to get it started with all the wood chop. However, if one looks at it differently.... if you're going to be burning through that much wood anywway using other layouts, you'll eventually cut the same amount of wood at the end. You're just all doing it first in this case, then you're free for other stuff.
Exactly correct! The trick is having the patience to do all the cutting etc before starting other things. Something I don't always posses 😅 Thanks for watching my friend 🌲🔥😊🌲
Yes, it is! I was actually up there today getting another section of wall done. I'll be happy when I get it completed. Slow progress, but progressing nonetheless! Glad you enjoyed the video my friend, hope you're keeping well. Thanks for your comment, and thanks for watching ☺️
Man, humans may not have evolved without trees. They gave us shelter, warmth, tools, weapons, cooked our food. Imagine making fires without an abundance of trees as an early society.
I measure fire success by how many matches it takes to start. One match, I'm a gold medalist. Two matches, not good but sh*t happens. Three or more matches, I suck at fires and suck at life. Since learning this upside down technique, I'm always a gold medalist. It never fails. But one question: Why not split the logs in half to keep them from rolling away on you? Am I missing something?
Ye I feel pretty much the same way about all that! I think it's worth spending that little extra time to make sure everything is just right before attempting the fire start. I don't split the logs as it's exposes the dryer wood core, causing the fire to burn through even quicker. That might be fine for hard or wet wood though. Thanks for the comment my friend 🌲😊🌲
Hi, you seem nice and I liked the video to help the channel BUT: - if you want a real long lasting fire you need to but dirt between the logs so hot coals don't fall down burning everything much faster - you probably killed roots from being so close to trees on top of risking a delayed start for a forest fire it might be ok where you are but people trying to do the same in a dryer land can up badly
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video. Dirty between the logs is a good idea, I must try when I next get the chance! I lit this fire on top of a bed of very wet logs, fire ceased once it got to that point. I can't remember now if I mentioned that fact in the video, however if you look closely at the bottom most layer of the lit fire you should be able to spot that wet layer. Your correct in your point about what others may end up doing in dry forest, other than giving warnings in every video I light a fire in, I'm not sure there is much I can do on that front. Thanks for the support and thanks for watching my friend 🌲😊🌲
I think the upside down fire is a faster way to start a fire, too much babysitting involved in starting a tiny little fire on the ground. You just build this, light the top and away it goes, I’ve been doing it for years
Thanks so much for the positive comment 😊 Glad to hear you liked the video. The only issue with splitting the logs would be that the fire would burn even hotter I think. Would definitely stop them rolling off though! I might try on the next one I do. Thanks so much for watching my friend 🌲☺️🌲
@@MulhavenBushcraft I like your videos and my concern is that if you set it and go to sleep a log may roll off and be a hazard to the asleep people so the wood doesn't need splitting in half just a bit on the edge so it doesn't roll off and cause harm
i saw another fire exactly like this one, except the guy stuffed dirt in between the pieces (not the botom level though, and it supposedly burned for 45 hours!
When I was in high school, we used to make a fire like that on our sledding hill. Plenty of room for everyone to stand around it since you couldn't get much closer than ten feet. Slide down, walk back up, warm up, and go again. We'd see steam coming off us as the fire dried our coats and jeans. Fun times.
The perfect fire for such an activity!
Sounds like fun times I gotta say.
Thanks for the comment, and thanks for watching 🌲😊🌲
Apprently if you put dirt/soil in the gaps on each layer, the fire would last all night as is slows the burn. (saw in another video) Would be a good side by side test with a time lapse.
Came to say the same thing. Also makes it so the logs don’t roll.
I was about to write this 😂.
Same
Yea, soil to seal the layers, so sparks can not drop to the lower layer too soon. Lasts much longer with soil sealing the cracks between the wood. I saw the same video.
This is a beautiful and calming video. I appreciate your explanations. they were easy to understand. thank for your good work.
Thanks very much Seoul, really happy to hear you enjoyed it.
I put quite a bit of work into this video so it's really nice when I get positive comments like this.
Thank you for watching my friend 🌲☺️🌲
Nice explanation and video! I almost always build upside down fires, although not with as many levels as you have here. I do this in my wood stove, and in my fire pit in the back yard, and the same camping. I'll often put two or three larger oak logs on the bottom, with air gaps, and then build up with cedar above. By the time the cedar burns down and ignites the oak, I have plenty of coals, so then I can just add two more pieces of oak at a time for a nice solid fire, not too hot, not too cold. Learned this from the farmers almanac 50+ years ago....
Thanks for the kind words of encouragement.
That's good useful info about how you do it 👍
Haters let you know you are doing something right‼️
They couldn’t light a fire 🔥 if they had a lighter and straw. Keep up the good work brother.
Thank you very much. Ye I know what you mean there alright.
Thanks for the kind comment 😊🌲😊
thank you bushcraft van gogh
😊 most welcome 😁
Cool fire dude!
Thanks 🔥 glad you liked it 🌲🙂🌲 Thanks for the support.
With hard wood 3 ft long to start, and dirt in the cracks... it can last 45 hrs. I've seen it. Even with pine you can make it last all night. Very good skill to have😊
That must be a typo… you meant 4-5 hours… 🤔😆. I imagine the cost of corded wood might drop like a rock with that sort of efficiency… 😁
@@dobrofool
Not a typo.
I've heard the same thing but I haven't done it.
Thanks man. Going to Wales this NYE and its going to rain/snow so will be high up in the forests. Never tried one of these but going to give it a go. Plenty of wood up there.
Otherwise known as the OCD fire.
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Can’t wait to try out this style!
Wonderful video, cousin. Very informative.
Thank you for sharing.
Hoping you and yours are having a wonderful holiday.
Wishing you nothing but the best in the year to come.
Take care 💚🍀🌲💮
🎇🎉
Thanks Babs, having a good holiday yes, weather has been miserable here though, rain, rain and more rain ha, oh and some good old wind too ha ha.
Happy Christmas and New year to you and yours also.
🌲😊☘️🌲
This style also works well on a much smaller scale; a wire cylinder ten to twelve inches high, wide as you want -hardwood - little smoke, no sparks, let’s me use it under a tarp or pop-up canopy, near the front, to have a fire nearby.
When I first saw that fire demonsrated, the instructor packed earth between the cracks, along the length of the logs. Nice dry logs like yours. He did the same along all the layers and said it would burn all night. Boy was right like. Latvian lad called Arturo. He was a braw lad. Gave hime a lift to his road end wi his pal Victor, in the pissing rain in like march, offerd to run him the extra half mile home and he said," Andrew, we are not made of sugar, we are MEN!"
Men don't turn down an additional 30 second car ride when they have already been in the car for a long ride. Those were intelligent boys but with something to prove. Real men don't need to prove to a random person that they are men.
Pro tip is to use wet wood on bottom layer. By the time it gets there the heat will dry them out and burn slowly also damp ground below slows the burn rate. If you need a cooking fire just harvest coals from top. If you need quick heat use the small pine twigs for a mini while you are cutting larger. You can also use much longer bottom logs and when the fire gets down there just slowly push them into the center.
personally my favourite fire lay, Birch split up with some holly or pine kindling through the levels will do it good fire lay for damp winter cooking for mulit dayers leaves a nice bed of good embers
Sounds good 👍, thanks for watching Ryan.
Nice video!!!
Thanks 😊
good info. thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Maybe use hard woods for the bottom layers and soft woods for the top? Would that make it last longer?
It certainly would yes, a good idea! Thanks for the comment 😊
Very lovely and realistic 🇧🇪
@@carltonbirds thanks for the kind comment, glad you enjoyed 😊
Which saw you're using? Please give me the link!
A saw I got in Lidl one time. I don't have a link for it I'm afraid.
sprinkle some dirt between the logs also slows the burn
That's one that I like too, but yeah long time to get it started with all the wood chop.
However, if one looks at it differently.... if you're going to be burning through that much wood anywway using other layouts, you'll eventually cut the same amount of wood at the end. You're just all doing it first in this case, then you're free for other stuff.
Exactly correct! The trick is having the patience to do all the cutting etc before starting other things. Something I don't always posses 😅
Thanks for watching my friend 🌲🔥😊🌲
I’ve been building fires like this since I was a Boy Scout 50 years ago.
Good day! Great information concerning this fire type. Is that the round house build in the background?
Yes, it is! I was actually up there today getting another section of wall done. I'll be happy when I get it completed.
Slow progress, but progressing nonetheless!
Glad you enjoyed the video my friend, hope you're keeping well.
Thanks for your comment, and thanks for watching ☺️
Man, humans may not have evolved without trees. They gave us shelter, warmth, tools, weapons, cooked our food. Imagine making fires without an abundance of trees as an early society.
Agreed 👍
I imagine in early times humanity would not have been found far from forests.
Thanks for watching 😊
Fine!
Thank you! Glad you liked 🌲💚🌲
You should leave at least 1/2" between all logs for airflow. Especially if your logs are not dry. Although leaving 0 gap for dry wood is fine!
I measure fire success by how many matches it takes to start. One match, I'm a gold medalist. Two matches, not good but sh*t happens. Three or more matches, I suck at fires and suck at life.
Since learning this upside down technique, I'm always a gold medalist. It never fails.
But one question: Why not split the logs in half to keep them from rolling away on you? Am I missing something?
Ye I feel pretty much the same way about all that! I think it's worth spending that little extra time to make sure everything is just right before attempting the fire start.
I don't split the logs as it's exposes the dryer wood core, causing the fire to burn through even quicker. That might be fine for hard or wet wood though.
Thanks for the comment my friend 🌲😊🌲
Hi, you seem nice and I liked the video to help the channel BUT:
- if you want a real long lasting fire you need to but dirt between the logs so hot coals don't fall down burning everything much faster
- you probably killed roots from being so close to trees on top of risking a delayed start for a forest fire
it might be ok where you are but people trying to do the same in a dryer land can up badly
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video.
Dirty between the logs is a good idea, I must try when I next get the chance!
I lit this fire on top of a bed of very wet logs, fire ceased once it got to that point.
I can't remember now if I mentioned that fact in the video, however if you look closely at the bottom most layer of the lit fire you should be able to spot that wet layer.
Your correct in your point about what others may end up doing in dry forest, other than giving warnings in every video I light a fire in, I'm not sure there is much I can do on that front.
Thanks for the support and thanks for watching my friend 🌲😊🌲
Thank you
I’ve used this method a lot when it’s wet outside and most of the wood is damp. Fire dries out the wood as it burns down.
Interesting I think I’ll stick with the regular pit fire. Get it going quickly.
Ye definitely not the fire for a quick setup.
Thanks for the comment, and for watching.
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I think the upside down fire is a faster way to start a fire, too much babysitting involved in starting a tiny little fire on the ground. You just build this, light the top and away it goes, I’ve been doing it for years
this is also good for burning branches.
Isn't that like a pyre?
Good one 😂
I think you would be better splitting them all so they don't roll off - but all in all great vid
Thanks so much for the positive comment 😊 Glad to hear you liked the video.
The only issue with splitting the logs would be that the fire would burn even hotter I think.
Would definitely stop them rolling off though! I might try on the next one I do.
Thanks so much for watching my friend 🌲☺️🌲
@@MulhavenBushcraft I like your videos and my concern is that if you set it and go to sleep a log may roll off and be a hazard to the asleep people so the wood doesn't need splitting in half just a bit on the edge so it doesn't roll off and cause harm
You need a fire to burn all night to warm you when you sleep so put dirt between the logs to slow the fire down so it lasts even longer
Batton a flat down face to stop rolling for safety
Good point @@thesheepstationcook8266
i saw another fire exactly like this one, except the guy stuffed dirt in between the pieces (not the botom level though, and it supposedly burned for 45 hours!
I need to try that, 45hrs seems a long time. Maybe with good hardwood though.
It's good if you wanna cook a "Caveman Steak".
Definitely provide enough heat for that for sure.
Thanks for the comment 🌲☺️🌲
On yersel son! guid laddie,
Thanks very much 🌲😊🌲
I wonder what the @OutdoorBoys would think about this technique
2 - 3 hours burn time? more like 20 hours man
Metric time.
Well when I was high in school
thats a friendship fire ja
My DNA comes from NI and I can do the accent
Name it ! It’s a Dakota fire
You need to do some Google research. That is not a Dakota fire.
Not engineer s...
2 hours and he’s got half the forest in his pile 😂 ok then
It's one tree.
Too much talking bro