Stephen A., Shannon & Windy DEBATE 🍿 Porzingis' injury + Steph, KD & LeBron title hopes | First Take
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- Stephen A., Shannon & Windy DEBATE 🍿 Porzingis' injury + Steph, KD & LeBron title hopes | First Take
On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Shannon Sharpe and Brian Windhorst start by discussing Kristaps Porzingis' calf injury, then talk about the possibility of Steph Curry, Kevin Durant and LeBron James winning another NBA championship.
0:00 Impact of Kristaps Porzingis' injury
5:17 Stephen A. highlights the Pacers
6:52 Are Steph, KD & LeBron done winning titles?
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Windy a savage for calling Cleveland vs Orlando a pillow fight 😂
Magic in 6
KP IS AN INJURY WAITING TO HAPPEN.
HE STAYS INJURED.
I LIKE THE TWOLVES TO WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP THIS SEASON.
That was great 😂
have you seen Windbag? he's pretty much a 300 pound pillow - he would know lol
Watch your mouth about windy he’s been losing a ton of weight.
Stephen A keep referencing the one Pacers game he's watched all season🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
Still more than most ppl can say 😂
😂😂
"yes Scottie Pippen we heard u we know u helped Michael Jordan" 😂
Shannon: YAHhhhhhh 😂
Why we ain’t talking about the best series Dallas vs clippers
Harden & Kyrie being the best players in that series is something I did not see coming lol
Coz the best series is Knicks vs Sixers
Because it's not the title of this video. Click on a title about the Clippers-Dallas series...
@@rogeliobotello8170 They both saw the backlash KD got for the sweep now they both trying to avoid the same fate.
The Lakers and Nuggets and the Knicks and sixers have been the best series. I know they'll both be short, but every single game was amazing and high leverage
Stephen A is correct about the ball movement in Boston. They don't almost ever get 30 assists in a game due to the isolation nature of their most talented scorers. But when those guys sit and Payton Pritchard puts up 30 points and 10 assists, the ball moves more. I'm not worried about some injuries in Boston at least for the next series. Our bench could use some time and could help us out.
I’m not worried about Pacers or Knicks Boston can beat both of them without our 7.3 guy
Your team is deep and will be fine without Porzingus to have a chance at getting to the finals. Is it possible for him to get healthy by the finals?
@intheethernet Yes, he will likely be back by the ECF. If I’m the Celtics I don’t even think about playing him until then.
@@RittenhousesRifle thank you. I'm glad to hear he will be back by the finals even if they end up playing Denver in the finals. That would be a lit series.
Tatum is averaging 7 AST per game this series and a career high in reg season. The ball stops with Jaylen but Jayson is why the ball is moving and he keeps it moving.
Trey Burks 😭
He really said trey burks!!!! Omfg!
SMH
🤦🏿
Haha hard to remember the name of a guy that never sees the floor.
😅
Windy called CLE vs ORL a pillow fight 😂😂😂😂
He aint lying tho 😂
This coming from someone looking like a pillow himself
Really is, they a obvious second round exit regardless of the winner 😂
DID HE SAY TREY BURKES WTH 😂
Next up…Jrue Holiday
This is an annual tradition
I know Rob Pelinka is kicking himself for not pulling the trigger on trading for Miles Turner and Buddy Hield when he had the opportunity to do so. Miles Turner and Anthony Davis would have controlled the boards and Hield would have provided some consistent three point shooting that the Lakers desperately needed.
Buddy hield is a walking brick rn for the 76ers WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT😹
That was better then Westbrook even tho I love westbrook
Imagine needing two players to guard one man smh. Jokic deserved to win and Lebron/AD couldnt even win by cheating/teaming up
Smh Jokic ain’t carrying his team by himself 😂
Not this year but the two years before the Championship he led the Nuggets to 50 wins and 1st round win by himself.
@@coreyhansen9711Except he didn’t win 50 games and had plenty of help against the no defense Blazers😂
Who said he was, quit hating on a white looking man. Wow guess it a woke Bron fan. Have a blessed day sir, your opinion respected... Peaceeee
@@adammcg7115 How old are you? The lack of intelligence oozing from this take is enormous... It's like you don't even realize that every team got wins from the "no defense blazers." Have a blessed day woke Lebron fan.
@@Koolasicewater you stupid bots can’t even compose a sentence properly..
Shannon Sharpe really just say Turner is better than Porzingis?? My man is clueless; KP during the regular season averaged more points, rebounds, assists and blocks than Turner and shot a higher percentage from 3 🤔
That was crazy
He said he’s more athletic version then KP clean your ears
@@tucansam3147 he said more athletic AND better! Clearly you need to invest in Q-tips 😂
Stephen A hella funny “ stay with me now “ hit the ocho 😂😂😂
Tatum is shooting 41% vs the terrible Heat without Butler and Rozier. He needs to step up his game.
Why would he need to do anything? Their blowing the heat out every game
@@bigmo3692 Why does Tatum need to play well? Are you kidding me? If he is struggling vs the garbage Heat without Butler and Rozier, he will have a harder time vs much better teams. Tatum has a reputation of not being a legit superstar too. This is why.
@@Bflo23 he’s not struggling lmao he just doesn’t have to do much i could see your point if he was forcing it but he took 20 shots in 1 game
@@Bflo23are you new to the game? Boston always play bad with the worst teams and play crazy with the best teams
@@dexter-jy3yk That is why they won 3 championships in a row? What planet do you live on?
They should just let KP rest in Game 5 until the next series. They don't need him to beat Miami
lol sharpes Indy love caught me off guard
I think the days of championship teams being able to pay their best players 40-50% of their total payroll is what's over. Iso/hero-ball is what's over. Team chemistry and cohesion is what will win championships.
Facts
Finally!
Teams too talented now
Sas said about the celtics: when the stars are in the game they take the shots, and when the bench is the game for the celtics, they have to share the ball to get a good shot. Legendary insight stephen a.
Awesome to see some pacer coverage. Great take guys
12:23 great analysis by Stephen A
This narrative that jokic is doing it all alone is such bs! Without Murray, mpj and Gordon he doesnt make it past the first round. Give that same supporting cast to steph or lebron and they make it to the finals.
Facts!
Need to get the same talk that Steph got for Klay and Draymond.
Just not true
You mean when prime lebron had wade and bosh and lost to jason terry?
Bro, even MJ didn't do it alone. What u talkin about brodie
“Let me challenge you for a second.. you’re not wrong..” what the hell kind of journalism is that
They are all puppets
I like that Stephen A! Week put sir! Well put
If Orlando wins Boston is going to struggle without KP, if it’s the cavs rest him Cleveland sucks..Edit: Orlando beat them 3-1 in season last year before KP
For real lmao Cleveland does suck
Lol you do t even believe that
Orlando sucks too man.
Cleveland actually has good bigs. Orlando doesn’t have the star power to compete with Boston
the Pathetics will struggle & ultimately lose - their ceiling is the 2nd round, where they'll get slapped around & get swept or lose in 5 games
Trey Burks???😂
"Trey Burks" REALLY STEPHEN A SMITH?!?! LOL
Small market time. MIN DEN or OKC are likely to win it all. WTH
😂😂😂
ESPN is in full circular logic and denial mode about that
OKC, youngest team to ever win a championship
1. Pacers playing a dame-less and giannis-less bucks, knicks playing a beat up 7 seed playing their starters 40+ minutes a night. And all of a sudden the knicks and pacers are just as good as the Celtics??? 🤣
2. Celtics made the finals with horford two years ago and the ECF last year and that was without Jrue. Celtics will be fine. In all the games they've won vs the heat it's been double digits and the only game they lost the heat made a franchise record 23 3's
These commentators live in the moment so much and base their analysis of off the one game they actually watch SMH
They forgot bucks defense is garbage with their stars imagine without 🤦♂️ amnesia in full effect
The heat would be picking the Celtics BS clovers right now if JIMMY was not hurt. They will meet a team in the east whole and will get send home!!!!
@@jjnelson3232 they’d be picking flowers in Cancun even with jimmy youngin , go get jimmy dck out yo mouth and pipe down pip squeak 😂
09:12 he has also only played in 64% post achilles.. pre injury he was 86%.. the 2 years he averaged 29, he only played in 47 & 39 of 82 games.. it hasn’t been the same sustained production as steph & lb… hopefully this year was a trend upward
The NBA is being Europeanized now. It is not about one individual but the whole cohesive group with excellent chemistry!
It kind of always was. Those are the teams that won the championship for the most part ever since basketball was invented.
The bill Russell Celtics, the show time Lakers, the triangle offense bulls and Lakers, the European style spurs with Tim Duncan, manu, and Parker.
The strength in number warriors and even warriors with KD.
Last year's Nuggets.
The exceptions have been teams with crazy amounts of top talent or teams that won by staying healthy and other teams being hurt.
That's BS, save that garbage for EUROPE!!!!!
This is true for any stars, they all needed MAJOR help to win anything
0:31 think he meant Alec burks not TREY burke
Durant, steph, lebron should team with wenbanyama
Goofy just say anything
The celtics owning the East it doesn't matter. He will get reps in the ecf then should be good to go for the finals
Yeah the east that’s it y’all getting cooked in the finals
I think they can get through the East without him but they’ll 100% need him for the finals
only a Pathetics casual would think this SMH "owning the Leastern Conference " is not a flex at all
They'll lose to the Knicks or Pacers without him.
THE CELTICS is not getting to the finals!!!!
Sometimes when SAS speaks I just smile like today. That last eulogy was epic.
Pillow fight 🤣🤣
Can someone please tell me why these so called analysts think that there ever was a time where one man can carry a team to a championship. Name someone and I’ll tell you the team they had
There never was a time. It was a narrative the media tried to create for lebron. More specifically LeBron supporters that work in the media.
The closest things to carrying would be what Hakeem did but even he had a nice squad.
It's called rating
Teams are just better and players overall. There’s more players who can do more who aren’t “stars.” Shoot, pass, score, defense, etc.
basically. Big 3's still work. u just need the best of the best. Steph, KD, Bron could do it
@@AnonymousUser-ss2qrthe real issue is none of the current big threes have the right balance and the current big threes are not as talented as the previous ones.
The Miami big three wasn't just three all-star level players.
It was 3 all NBA level players.
LeBron being first team and maybe the best playerin the world Wade being at worse second team and probably and as high as #3/4
And Bosh being a 2nd or 3rd team player and a top 9-15 player.
You compare that to what people right now consider Superteams and it falls short by a lot.
For example KD is second team and either 4-10th best player in the world.
Booker is third team and either the 10-15th best player In the world
Beal is a like 60th.
That's not a Superteam. People just see the names and scoring averages and say it is but it's not.
Not only is it not comparable in talent to previous superteams. It's a pretty bad fit compared to the Superteams.
Also the league just has way more talent top to bottom. So that gap between the top players and average players has shrunk.
So having 5 great players is absolutely necessary these days
Just when you thought espn would have to get creative and talk about other players after lebron kd and steph got eliminated here we go 😂😂😂
They get the ratings.
The same happened in the previous generation with Kobe, wade, Duncan, kg, and other all time greats. It's not until they retire or are clearly eclipsed that the media shifts to the new generation
Shannon can't do a single segment without bringing up Lebron somehow
I’d rather hear 90 hours of Bron than a reference of Magic v Cavs series
Minnesoter, Indianer
Keep it going
Comparing 3 series to almost 30 and coming to a conclusion. We call that a fallacy
Lebron had AD, Durant had booker and Beal and steph had inconsistent klay. All three of these guys should just team up
They are....in the Olympic.
Exactly they never left
What makes you think the pacers can even hang 115 on the knives defense lol
I like the way Stephen A. said Kevin Love had to join Cavs to win championship, but when he talks about jordan its like he has dementia
So many players are getting injured. Porzings, Antetokumpo, Kawai, Zion, Buttler, Lillard...I wonder if in the 90s it was like that, because I think it was not. Something is wrong.
There is one positive with the injury of Porzingis and that is Mazzulla will get fired if they do not make it out of the east, especially if they do not make it past the next round.
Brad Stevens isn't firing his puppet.
As a Knick fan this is music to my ears
No Randal no zingis, even fight?
Knicks are tough, here in Denver, I literally fear them. They had that game they beat us by 40. The post-season is different, but that game gave me PTSD. They could beat us with Brunson. I think they're dismissed and underrated.
@@jadedlynx The Knicks haven't beaten the Celtics once this season (They played 5 times) except when the Celtics were resting on the second last game of the season. The only teams Boston should've been concerned about was a healthy Miami or Bucks but both those teams don't exist anymore.
@@zuhayrakhan I'm not saying they will, I'm just saying they could. I''m also saying they're treated like underdogs and sometimes crazy stuff can happen in the NBA.
Addressing your point-- it's obvious and goes without saying that Boston is the better team even without Porzingas, I'm not sure, but it seems you assumed I didn't realize that.
I was also using sarcasm because they beat the Nuggets by 40 and that kind of skewed my perception about them. The game was "traumatizing" (sarcasm).
I can acknowledge that a small window of opportunity has opened up for them, but also realize that Boston is more likely to win. Both things can be true at the same time.
I'm rooting for NY, but would put my money on Boston.
Bummer that Porzingis went down, he's such a force on the court.
HE LIGHTWEIGHT. Celtics not wining no chip!!!!
lol Windy already thinking way ahead but the series isn't over yet with the Heat.
Yea it’s definitely over
I smell a JT 50 point playoff game brewing
Hahaha naw bro.
@@foundationsyth9825he has one every year hater
Probably get one from JB before JT
@@strangertings9577 why tho? Tatum has dropped 50 twice in the playoffs, 2 40 pt games, and 20 thirty point games. Brown has a playoff high if 40 once and 9 30 point games.
Just as possible as a 3-17 shooting night
fck it, LEBRON + KD + CURRY should all team up hahahah
To each their own. Winning in 3 different cities vs winning in one
Tim Legler and JJ Reddick the next future coaches for the NBA
Wendy, Bobby Marks and Zach Lowe would be a great award winning cast
FOR FAUX TV, Wendy without that KLAN is better!!!!!
Indiana would get spanked by the magic!
Not a single mention of the magic
Nothing to mention
The disrespect the magic gets is crazy 3rd best defense in the league cavs haven't yet scored 100pt against us and before Celtics sign prozingis Orlando was beating Celtics over n over😂 this year when prozingis wasn't playing Orlando beat them again Celtics definitely need prozingis against our size is a major problem for the Celtics
Nothing to see here
Indy ain’t losing to the Magic, stop. This is not the regular season.
Trey burks ? Wake up sas
Celtics have no room to complain about tingus being injured after what the bucks have had to endure this post season
Windy sitting there nodding while thinking 'I have no idea what these guys are saying and I'm pretty sure they don't either'
the lakers could’ve had miles turner and buddy hield , one of the best shooting bigs and the player with the 2nd most made threes 😪
So they needed Lebron Anthony Davis AND more help??? Might as well give them a gameshark
they can beat every team on the east without porzingis but they are definitely going to need him if they play the nuggets in the finals
Nah they ain’t beating NY
@@Juimango40that’s an absurd take
@@drexelspivey872 without KP their done
@@Juimango40 you're a causal if you think that
@@oreed8 🤡
Dey gonna be on fumes!
Trey Burke? Stephen A this is why people say you cant possibly be a real knicks fan because you cant even get the players' names right lol
Indiana is mad underrated
Gosh Media love talking negative about Boston
Miles Turner is not going to post anyone up!!!
It’s time to crack open their secret weapon in Xavier Tillman!
Trey Burks?? Who’s that? 😅😂😂😂
Brunson can carry the knicks should be on that conversation
The fact that they call it a trinity is crazy, this bron and curry era… THAT IS IT
SAS said “they built around Jordan and Steph”. Why would I stay in my original spot if they not building around me.
We aint done yet... - Steph
Wemby is the future. His flexibility and mobility is next level. Flexible joints and ligaments prevent injuries.
Have you guys seen Jokic throwing put shot 2 handed arching his back into a bridge ? Dude is super flexible. Explains why he’s also mostly injury free
Trey burks 😂 that’s funny.. trey was a freakin animal tho 💪🏽💪🏽
Boston won't come close to beating Denver (in the Finals) without Porzingis.
They should be okay against everybody else, though.
Stephen A is spot on about Boston. When the 2 stars play the offense stagnates, when one sits, the ball moves more. When Boston moves the ball with the shooting they have, they can beat anybody. They could win the chip. Problem is. The 2 stars iso wayyyyy to much and slow down the pace. It’s been a problem for years.
Trey burks 😂😂😂 what is Steven a talking about, I mean does he prepare for his shows or just freestyles all day😂
Durant to Knicks for Randle and picks would be nice
Alec Burke not tray burkes
Stephen A pretends to be objective when in reality hes the polar opposite. "Lebron had to go to Miami to get his first, Jordan and Curry stayed and built their teams up" hmmmm almost as if the front office/owners of both organisations were component lead by two of the top 5 greatest coaches to ever exist in basketball (Steve Kerr and Phill Jackson) whilst LeBron had Dan Gilbert and a bunch of nobody's. You can say that about KD because OKC were a well functioning organisation and had a MVP caliber player (Westbrook) but you can't categorise Bron with him. Context is everything.
What I HATE about the Steph, LBJ & KD conversation is LBJ, although the oldest & most accomplished has another 10 player in AD w/him. KD has Booker & Beal w/him. Steph has who!? A washed Klay!? A semi washed Draymond, who's gathering more ejections via violent outbursts to the detriment of his team the more washed he gets!? Wiggins who had a BRIEF awakening being the 2nd best player on their Championship team 2yrs ago but now looks a G League Bench Player!? Steph is fighting the biggest uphill battle, both other teams & his own teammates😒😢
Steph has the best supporting cast. If you think of Draymond, Klay, Wiggins, and kuminga as your 3-6 role players and put a second star next to Curry he has a hell of a squad.
What he lacks is a second star and a back up big.
KD has the worst supporting cast as in role players and the team overall is a horrible fit. What his team lacks is a mobile center and instead of having 4 SG and no bench. The suns needed a decent back up PG. A great wing defender and a Mobile center.
Not Beal and Nurkic.
Lebron's team is probably the most complete team. The issue is LeBron is old and can't run the offense for 40+ minutes and defend.
So he needs a SG upgrade that can run some offense and shoot.
WIINNNDDDDYYYYY!!!!!! This guy can carry any group, man. Say what you will about Stephen A but this is a great group of sportscasters.
Shaq should be a GM
Windy said Ant what has Ant done lol
0:30 WHO TF IS TREY BURKS
Trey burks is a point gaurd that was traded by the knicks. He ment alic burks
@@Mayne722 def not
Windy saying the old stars are still great but they can’t carry their teams like newer stars. But the newer stars are literally just on better overall teams. Sometimes they forget it’s a team sport.
Nah Dallas on paper is not better than the lakers but they got 50 win in regular season.
Kristaps should be back for the ECF
The nonsense from Stephen A at end🤦🏾♂️. Jordan and Steph stayed because they had better teammates around them, Hall of famers. Who did LeBron have before he went to Miami?
Minne-so-ter😂
alec burks*******
You know how long it took me to figure out Trey burks is Alec Burks lol. Stephen A can retire now
Yall counting the 6ers out early. It ain't over til its over. 6ers in 7
I thought they were not out? Lol y'all still in? Ya'll be out soon. Y'all sorry.
The only reason kd would work in OKC, unless he take a huge pay cut, getting rid of all those young players to fill the cap space for kd, would be a huge mistake
Steven A. Telling it how it should be told about MJ and Steph. But it took you so long to differentiate between the team hoppers and the self relying team builders.
Jokic is a top 35 player of all time player already
How many rings did Jordan’s team win w the Wizards…?
Point?
@@dbutta2496 SAS was saying that Jordan carried entire teams and that’s what set him apart. I don’t believe that’s true.
They lose one piece and now everything is in jeopardy ? Tatum about to be the highest paid player in league history .. he better figure it out
They over exaggerating
I'm calling it right now gw will trade for kd in the summer