Domesday Duplicator - Ultimate LaserDisc Preservation

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  • I've been collecting LaserDiscs for years and always been keeping an eye out for the best way to preserve them. The Domesday Duplicator has been on my radar for a while now but only recently was I finally able to check it out, and it does not disappoint!.
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  • @TheRealHarrypm
    @TheRealHarrypm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    8:16 From capture to decoding, its all possible in Windows/MacOS Arm today, alongside many video tape formats thanks to vhs-decode which windows binary bundles ld-decode with it, alongside cvbs-decode and hifi-decode, also not limted to just the DdD for FM RF capture today.

    • @AureliusR
      @AureliusR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah but why on earth would you willingly use windows or macos?

    • @TheRealHarrypm
      @TheRealHarrypm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AureliusR Sadly due to standard post workflows and ease of use, resolve is clunkly on Linux, a good 75% of commerical ingest setups are using Blackmagic/Vrecord are MacOS based, also the apple M1-M3 are the fastest platforms for decoding FM RF with current code due to raw single core speeds, I love Linux and I hope the projects bring it into more peoples lives alongside learning basic hardare tooling, but the end goal is to get the tools into as many hands as possible.

  • @Anonsage3
    @Anonsage3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +348

    I hope someone (with alot of money) archives all the pioneer laseractive games.

    • @charlesswansonii9319
      @charlesswansonii9319 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Yes, especially the Sega MegaLD games. Those are an important part of the Sega MegaCD/Mega Drive's history and it feels wrong to omit those.

    • @robmoye7373
      @robmoye7373 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      and the laserdisc arcade games, such as Dragon's Lair, and Space Ace.

    • @systemchris
      @systemchris 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      This is so important actually, we need to see that terrible crime game in Britain extracted

    • @6581punk
      @6581punk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@robmoye7373 Seems like those have been done? or certainly scanned from film anyway.

    • @Kalvinjj
      @Kalvinjj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@6581punk So we're going even one step further on the archival, tho I can definitely imagine that something like Dragon's Lair would be archived from it's original cell animation to begin with, for further releases on the market.

  • @JORGETECHJorge
    @JORGETECHJorge 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +184

    The thing I like the most about this project is it's fork "vhs-decode", it requires cheaper hardware since VHS tapes have lower bandwidth that can be covered with cheap Connexant PCIe cards. It may be the last non-expensive way to have high quality VHS captures, specially if you live in an area where you can't find professional second hand videotape equipment.

    • @Kalvinjj
      @Kalvinjj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I wonder/hope if there is or will be a Video 8 variant of that as well, I've captured old family videos through just analog (...let's be real tho, more than good enough) but that would be awesome to extract the last few bits of quality straight outta 1995.

    • @TheRealHarrypm
      @TheRealHarrypm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@Kalvinjj Its not limted to VHS it covers the Sony 8mm formats, Video8 and Hi8 using standard Jig points off Digital8 camcorders, so you can get your metadata off the firewire run and your archive off the RF capture as Video/HiFi/Timecode are all on seprate carriers like LD so 1 capture point RF wise.

    • @TheRealHarrypm
      @TheRealHarrypm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Really the best thing to say is it requires 20msps mimium sampling so half or less the storage requirement of LD, (well 16msps for NTSC, and 18msps for PAL but we stick to 20msps with FLAC compression to be safe and ensure 100% signal convrage even if its off spec)

    • @andydelle4509
      @andydelle4509 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Yes, as I commented below, there is no reason why this can't be tweaked for any analog video tape format. They all use FM recording. The only caveat is the color under process consumer VTRs used as well as the multiplexed RY/BY second track method the Sony Betacam (not Betamax) used. But there is no reason this can't be handled in a software based decoder.

    • @SomePotato
      @SomePotato 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting! Thanks!

  • @6581punk
    @6581punk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

    I saw Laserdisc and Domesday and thought this was about the 1980s Domesday project in the UK where they used a laserdisc to create a modern day Domesday book with a laserdisc machine controled by a BBC Master. It got recovered about 20 years later when they thought it might get lost due to hardware failure of the players.

    • @therealchayd
      @therealchayd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Yeah, me too. We had a Domesday system at our school, and I thought it was the coolest thing at the time. IIRC, they have a Domesday system in operation at The National Museum of Computing at Bletchley Park.

    • @dmacpher
      @dmacpher 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Huh, TIL, neat!

    • @marsilies
      @marsilies 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      As this video details, that's actually the origin of the name, as the Domesday Duplicator is part of the Domesday86 project, which was started to explicitly make digital copies of the Domesday Project's LD discs. The use has expanded out past just the Domesday Project LDs though. There's also a fork that uses the Domesday Duplicator on VCRs, with accompanying VHS-decode software.
      The "Domesday Reloaded" project hosted by the BBC somewhat recreates the experience on the web, although it's incomplete due to copyright concerns over the National disc.

    • @mjmeans7983
      @mjmeans7983 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@marsiliesWhere is the fork for VHS?

    • @djsmeguk
      @djsmeguk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I remember contributing to our local submission back when I was at school. Every school kid did something in 1984-5 or so. I'd watch stuff like tomorrows world to get updates on what was happening with it.

  • @obsoletebutneat
    @obsoletebutneat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    George Lucas' first major film THX-1138 was not released digitally in its original form, only in one of George's 'enhanced' editions with CGI and such inserted. It's been worth holding on to the original laserdisc (and even the VHS) because of that...

    • @ppn2024
      @ppn2024 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Perfect!

    • @HeyElKappa
      @HeyElKappa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      theres a scan of a 35mm print on myspleen afaik (but goodluck getting a myspleen invite if you dont have one already)

    • @tecpaocelotl
      @tecpaocelotl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What about the special feature in thx 1138 DVD with the original version?

  • @kargaroc386
    @kargaroc386 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    The word "dome" in the name did indeed become "doom" in modern english. And as mentioned, it means "judgement" here.
    But, this word in its original meaning still exists in modern english, in an inflected form. The word "deem" (as in "I deemed it to be like this" or something) comes from the same word.

    • @SuperFlashDriver
      @SuperFlashDriver 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's what I was thinking the moment I saw "Domesday" as "Doomsday", meaning that, while the device is still new, these discs will eventually be discontinued and become retro mediums.

  • @CoffeeOnRails
    @CoffeeOnRails 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    As a historian who’s had to look in the Doomsday Book, the dry description you gave made me laugh. It is really dull (but also really cool because you can look up places you know and see how tiny they were)

    • @TechTangents
      @TechTangents  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      In the right context I could absolutely seeing it be an amazing resource. The name kind of sets a different level of expectations nowadays though lol!

    • @OtterlyInsane
      @OtterlyInsane 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Dull? Maybe. Hugely interesting if you have any connection to England though

    • @Okurka.
      @Okurka. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You'd think a historian would know it's called Domesday Book.

    • @Ice_Karma
      @Ice_Karma 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Okurka. I'm willing to bet autoincorrect struck again.

    • @Ramdileo_sys
      @Ramdileo_sys 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TechTangents ummm.. this is really interesting Shelby.😯​.. was it Fran Blanche @FranLab who have those rare NASA LaserDisc that she can't safekeep online because of copyunrights BS??😤​.+... this will be a nite tool for preserve those🤔​..+.

  • @Ricardo-bw2yn
    @Ricardo-bw2yn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Well, now you are required by Intergalactic law to go down the vhs-decode project too.
    (seriously, I'd love it had more exposure and possibly reach as it'd also certainly move the project a little faster and further. with the added bonus of having a reference video on youtube)

    • @TheRealHarrypm
      @TheRealHarrypm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Oh we at the decode cult managed to catch the twich stream and set him on the right path off the bat!

  • @jmalmsten
    @jmalmsten 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I saw the rip of the Laserdisc release of the playstation Ghost in the Shell cut scenes here on youtube a while back. If I remember correctly. It used captures from several discs with the same content. By doing that, they could stack the video signals and cancel out the difference that the individual discs had introduced. That way they got as close to the original master tape quality possible. I must say, I was astonished with how good it looked. And it makes me want as many as possible to rip their LD collections as soon as possible. Because that way you can get the very best master tape esque versions restored.

    • @zoomosis
      @zoomosis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wonder how they kept all the stacked copies in sync.

    • @jmalmsten
      @jmalmsten 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zoomosis
      That, I can only speculate on.

    • @itogi
      @itogi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zoomosis Probably, timecodes embedded into video.

    • @stevethepocket
      @stevethepocket 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder if the software that does the combining also checks for signs of cutouts or other damage-moments where one source's signal significantly differs from the others-and automatically cuts that source out of the mix during those spots.

    • @itogi
      @itogi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stevethepocket The software puts cleaner signal from another source only in places where the dropout happens

  • @static-san
    @static-san 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This video has one of the best descriptions I've yet come across of what is actually encoded on a Laserdisc. It's fascinating that the inventors of the format realized that they could simply convert a 10MHz video signal to PWM and record the pulses!

  • @odius94
    @odius94 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is one of the best tech focused channels on TH-cam.
    For once the algorithm works out!

  • @lucymorrison
    @lucymorrison 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    wow, this thing is awesome! the results truly do speak for themselves. LD preservation is super important with the risk of disc rot and just all that comes with it being an analogue medium so I'm glad we've basically got it down.

  • @Ybalrid
    @Ybalrid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I don't have an LD, and I never actually used LD, but I love seeing these backup solution being made

  • @jdpruente
    @jdpruente 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Family Dog! You've just filled a gap in my memories of that dog drawn with the nose floating in front of its face. Thanks!

  • @edpowell7508
    @edpowell7508 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Can't wait for the next video: I just inherited a library of Laserdiscs, and backing them up is definitely in my wheelhouse

  • @sircompo
    @sircompo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I remember a school trip to London back in 1986 when I was 10; I was lucky enough to spend a couple of minutes using the BBC Domesday Project at the Science Museum, sparking in me a fascination with computers that has pretty much shaped my life. I sometimes imagine I might have turned out to be a normal person if it weren't for those two mindblowing minutes 🤣

    • @ellipticalsoul
      @ellipticalsoul 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The BBC was my gateway into computing too around 1990/1. They were very well designed computers with great expandability

  • @lsaille1
    @lsaille1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I've been looking to make use of one of these myself, as I've been digitizing a lot of rarer Hong Kong and Japanese Laserdiscs for the past year. Side by side the quality improvement is so noticeable, and considering how unlikely a lot of these films are to ever get re-released beyond the analog era, I'll have to invest in properly figuring the duplicator process out.

  • @AnsonShurr
    @AnsonShurr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The ham radio nerd in me loved this episode. This is rather like what you can do with older radios: You can physically tap into the raw IF (intermediate frequency) signal inside the radio, pipe it outside, and capture it via a software defined radio for *external* decoding.
    That way, you can still utilize the ham radio's superior front end and receiving hardware, but you can decode it all in software at a much wider bandwidth.
    73 de WU2F

    • @Taras-Nabad
      @Taras-Nabad 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I thought the same thing. 73 W2ZOU

  • @_rlb
    @_rlb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    20 seconds in and I see the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. This can never be a bad video.

  • @user-vm9wv4gj9p
    @user-vm9wv4gj9p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Archival work is so important, and I think a lot of people don't realize this.

  • @05Matz
    @05Matz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh, beautiful! It's always great to see humanity coming together to archive art and knowledge and prevent it from falling out of existence!

  • @jaredvv86
    @jaredvv86 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    OMG thank you for this. I found the related VHS project earlier this month and have been trying to wrap my head around all of this. Very much love seeing this explanation. Looking forward to the next one.

  • @k33per03
    @k33per03 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I do not personally care about laserdisc, but projects like this remind me just how much effort ppl are putting into tech preservation... and I applaud any such efforts.

  • @zh84
    @zh84 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm glad you've done this. There was a lot of fuss in Britain a few years ago about how the data on the Domesday Machine discs was being lost because the hardware was no longer functioning and the masters had been lost.

  • @andydelle4509
    @andydelle4509 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Back around 2010 I had a Laser Disk transfer process that I think was as good as it gets - until this! I tapped the 8bit digital video signal directly out of the internal TBC in a Pioneer CLD-95. I made an FPGA based interface board that converted the raw 8bit video to a SMPTE standard parallel composite digital signal*. Then I used a surplus broadcast NTSC digital decoder to get to standard component SDI. Then through a surplus DVNR noise reducer and onto and SDI capture card making DPX files to a 30TB raid. Now this could be compressed further but I kept the raw DPX files. Digital audio when present was just upsampled from 44.1K to 48K.
    There was a group in Germany that was working in a similar RF capture system for Sony Betacam tapes. Betacam, not Betamax, was a highly successful broadcast component analog format in the 1980s through 2000. It was very high quality. Originally it used standard Betamax tapes but ran the tape much faster. An L750 tape would only last 20min on a Betacam. Mid 1980 we had Betacam SP which used a larger cassette and metal tape and could record up to 90min IIRC. There are huge archives on Betacam tape that need digitizing.
    * There was a composite digital system in the 1990s that complemented the CCIR601 component digital standard. It was basically digitized NTSC or PAL. The digital tape format was called D2 and Panasonic made a half inch version called D3. Because of the way the signal was quantized (it digitized the sync as well), some of us, including me, thought that a first generation analog 1 inch tape was actually better than first generation composite digital recording. But of course the digital tape could go about 20 generations down with virtually no loss. By the early 2000s it was obsolete as the HDTV/DTV transition used component video.

  • @ouroya
    @ouroya 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    happy to see archival of less-popular media getting much-needed love!

  • @ut4321
    @ut4321 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing! Using a modern hardware stack to digitally capture the entire analog waveform is brilliant!

  • @barryyoung6159
    @barryyoung6159 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Happened on your video through TH-cam's "For You" suggestion algorithm - very interesting, it's given me a number of ideas .. Thanks very much for posting this and preserving the past for people who might be interested in the future - Awesome 😎

  • @trickysoft
    @trickysoft 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Due to the decaying nature of probably all LDs, it is also important to contribute to the "stacking" efforts to try to reconstitute the least corrupted version of every disc. Due to copyright restrictions, I don't know if you can get a copy of the results even though you may have contributed a version.

    • @kayakMike1000
      @kayakMike1000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hum... That was my first though. Being an analog format, it would degrade w/o the benefit of RS error corrections

    • @trickysoft
      @trickysoft 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kayakMike1000 it is more that the glue use destroying the discs and maybe tiny imperfections.

    • @KallePihlajasaari
      @KallePihlajasaari 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was going to suggest this as there is no check sum or CRC codes on the video component. Having a large collection of sample streams would allow for the reconstitution of the original, perhaps even with the aid of checking if distortion to the sub carrier signal is increased or decreased depending on the source selection.
      Very happy that this project exists even though only the copyright holders will gain the most benefit. You can be they will harness the archives one day to generate new copies for rental without giving back to the community.
      I hate modern video compression and cannot see how we have sunk so low. I have not watched more than a couple of movies on laser disk and am not worried about some loss of sharpness due to analogue transmission or recording but the horrible motion prediction artifacts and blocky compression on modern digital broadcast TV make me hate myself when I sometimes turn on the TV.

  • @GYTCommnts
    @GYTCommnts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is amazing! I remember, for example, those videos of the amusement park ride. I searched on the net for some footage and found almost nothing. Now I understand why. Thank you very much for your incredible work!

  • @MisterSixty
    @MisterSixty 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow, I have to pull out my old Pioneer LD and about 15 discs and start this as another project!
    Thank you for the video!

  • @mnemo70
    @mnemo70 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, TH-cam algo! Very interesting video, I didn't hear about this capture device before. It's a throwback to my LaserDisc time more than 25 years ago. I've sold almost all discs and the Pioneer player long ago, but it is a beautiful format, especially with the huge Special Edition boxes. Great to see the releases archived.

  • @marktubeie07
    @marktubeie07 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Absolutely fantastic - can't wait for part 2 !! Thank you...

  • @ellipticalsoul
    @ellipticalsoul 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You're doing great work archiving rare LaserDiscs! Respect for knowing about the Domesday project (and getting the pronunciation right haha) and BBC micro too, I'm guessing they are pretty obscure to Americans! I used the BBC micro quite a lot at primary school here in the UK because they lingered around in classrooms well into the 90s and were a very capable computer with lots of useful educational software, BASIC interpreter built into ROM etc. I have a vivid memory of seeing a maze game on the BBC when I was about 5 and being fascinated by it and that really kickstarted a lifelong love of computers and technology. Never got to try the Domesday project though.

  • @ciddax754
    @ciddax754 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Some years ago, a group grabbed one of those players with a serial interface and a player that could go frame by frame and had a component output. They captured every singe picture. They created DVDs of a quality which surpassed the official DVDs.

  • @Vinpupx1
    @Vinpupx1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice to finally see your video on this. Always funny to hear about just how much time it takes to do this properly.

  • @ChadDoebelin
    @ChadDoebelin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I enjoyed this dive into capturing laser disc content. Thanks for making it. It was just the perfect length.

  • @GYTCommnts
    @GYTCommnts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can't believe how in this age and with all the technology we have, some copyright, license and cost-benefit shenanigans make that some movie studios let their archives rot, instead of preserving their catalog. It's sad that some media is really lost forever.

  • @damouze
    @damouze 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is _so_ cool.
    I am lookig forward to your next video about this topic.

  • @gymnasiast90
    @gymnasiast90 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a very interesting project, I’m really looking forward to part 2!

  • @artofnoise5013
    @artofnoise5013 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really amazing this exists! Thanks for sharing and explaining.

  • @TwoStackedCRTTubes
    @TwoStackedCRTTubes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These kind of videos are great! This channel is turning into an ultimate archivist's reference guide for converting old media.

  • @MontegaB
    @MontegaB 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude I don't know how you find the time & energy to produce as much as you do. This is an amazing project, thank you!

  • @dominick253
    @dominick253 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great timing just today I got the thought to create a data repository. You never know... One solar flare and bye bye internet.

  • @haleypotter417
    @haleypotter417 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for this! Being able to see the process for this will be a boon!
    Looking forward to the next part

  • @Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P
    @Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm so happy this is being done i wish so much i could see the Archive as there are ld stuff I've always wanted to see

  • @Tannius
    @Tannius 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I found an old Laser Disc player and a copy of "A Funny Thing Happened to Me on the way to the Forum" and grabbed them since the LD was still shrinkwrapped new. I should have known that LDs would degrade, especially since I have CDs and DVDs that are already dying on me. I'm glad someone out there is preserving them. Now I just need to find a hosting database of saved movies since there are some ancient ones I've only seen on LD.

    • @honestguy7764
      @honestguy7764 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have laserdisc from the mid 80s completely functional, with no signs of decay….. other from the late 90 were rotted from day one. I think it was plainly a lack of care durin manufacturing duplicating, specially in the USA, rot was almost not present in discs made in Austria or Japan

  • @bagamax
    @bagamax 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is mindblowing! Thank you for your passion!

  • @morbital
    @morbital 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is very cool, especially for the niche things described. I met someone who has a stack of LD's from an old exhibition at our local science centre, with this tech those could be dumped, or captured I should say, in a meaningful way! Looking forward to the next video! :)

  • @AnsonShurr
    @AnsonShurr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been following the Legend of the Galactic Heroes Domesday Duplicator project for some time now. I finally get to learn about it! Great video.

  • @mkrete
    @mkrete 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video! Glad to see there is a way to preserve this format. I didn't know that the data on a laserdisc was analog. I think most people would assume because its a disc that it is a digital format, but I guess that didn't occur until CD's came to be.

  • @VicGreenBitcoin
    @VicGreenBitcoin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro, this is a great video, I Really enjoyed it! You did go deep the the technical part what I can appreciate

  • @dannyboy42223
    @dannyboy42223 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New to the channel love the quality content and the cliffhanger definitely got me stalking my notifications

  • @kelownatechkid
    @kelownatechkid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great work! I am a fan of obscure formats (particularly Blu-ray 3D) and hope that one day we can ensure full backups of most titles from formats like these are archived! A comparison to the ride film would be Happy Family 4D, which was released on 3DBD but few copies ever were produced. In contrast, some creators like Florian Werzinski have published copies of their ride films online in stereo to view.

  • @alexander_mejia
    @alexander_mejia 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have wanted to do this for so long so thank you so much for documenting this.

  • @lemagreengreen
    @lemagreengreen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now that's important, was aware of a few unique things that were doomed to rot on Laserdisc until now.
    Wow those old simulator videos! I'm sure everyone remembers some of those from the 80s and 90s, feels like those moving simulators were everywhere and I'm sure I recognise the roller coaster video at the least. Would love to see more of them.

  • @brettcarcio4013
    @brettcarcio4013 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've got some recordable laser discs that came from gameworks in Tempe AZ. They were used back before sega bought them. I found them in the av room cleaning up after we went out of business. I think it was something that used to play on the video walls that hung from the rafters

  • @user-hx8xe5ev9g
    @user-hx8xe5ev9g 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is an absolutely wonderful project coupled to an interesting and informative video. I'm a big fan of video game preservation, and this reminds me of the ethos and intent of that although different execution. As a tech nerd in general, it allowed me to learn something AV related I didn't know, and does something clever and hacky with consumer electronics to introduce a new feature, modding basically.
    Great stuff. Look forward to Back To The Laser Part II 😉😁

  • @zzco
    @zzco 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know, I never actually heard the format itself talked about, thank you!

  • @justindaering9483
    @justindaering9483 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought one a while back. I’ve used it to capture 3 discs so far, all things that aren’t available on DVD. It’s tricky as hell but it’s super cool that this tech was developed.

  • @rvkasper
    @rvkasper 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is awesome! I remember finding a LD-->DVD star wars conversion and I was SO EXCITED right around 2002-2003... This is so cool :)

  • @jaredbrown691
    @jaredbrown691 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been waiting for this video. Thank you.

  • @thedungeondelver
    @thedungeondelver 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Criterion Collection AKIRA and Star Wars: The Definitive Collection will never be released on DVD, so this is absolutely something I want to do. Thank you for sharing this!

  • @2beJT
    @2beJT 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for preserving our history.

  • @LoesserOf2Evils
    @LoesserOf2Evils 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It seems to me that a library's archive operation might want to look into something like this in order to preserve for the long term its legacy laser discs. Thanks for the review.

  • @mbob4337
    @mbob4337 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I didn't even know Family Dog was released on LD. I had tapes of the episodes when it originally aired. And that was the only way I archived mine. I'm jealous you got all the episodes on the disc. I think I only have half the series. The best episode I still think is the homeless woman episode. And you're right about the unmatted movies. The only movie that's ever released the wide and unmatted 4:3 frame, is The Transformers The Movie.

  • @JanusCycle
    @JanusCycle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this. I bought a Laserdisc of Repo Man because the open matte was only ever released on LD & VHS. There are not even any composite rips of this version out there. Thanks Shelby, looking forward to seeing the second part.

  • @tinyfluffs
    @tinyfluffs 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seen Simon's work in person. It's legit cool stuff :D

  • @TheIDontKnowsRecords
    @TheIDontKnowsRecords 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's so neat, I too have an LD player (Pioneer CLD-V2600) I picked up locally that was originally from the University of Michigan's Flint Campus Learning Resource Center.

  • @GregJoughin
    @GregJoughin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been following the DdD for years now, and I already had a 4300D from previous forays into capping LDs, but it might be this video that tips me over into buying the DdD hardware and getting started.

  • @Kiritomens
    @Kiritomens 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I learned about this awhile back because of the Laser Disk version of "The Legend of the Galactic Heroes". The laser disk version has a whole other animation then the later dvd and blu-ray versions. As the laser disk is the original TV broadcasted version, and the later DVD version added and changed allot (allot for the better tbh).
    But yea there are not allot of people preserving LD with the Domesday out there.
    Decent LD is almost impossible to find online for most disks.
    I was actually trying to find the best version of sailor moon, and found out that the LD version is pretty much the definitive version of the first few seasons. The later releases all have their own individual problems. Like the newest blu-ray being way to red for some reason, and having weird up-scaling.
    The only recordings of the LD version, are really low quality rips that are basically unwatchable on the Archive org.

  • @kBarBeats
    @kBarBeats 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    such a cool little sandwich-device, gotta love the open source community!

  • @csudsuindustries
    @csudsuindustries 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    90s Interactive TV vendors like Wink Communication used custom LD that had the data stream in the VBI to demo the product with a modified set top box. Simple setup that needed no encoders, rf modulators, etc.

  • @Darkstar2342
    @Darkstar2342 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I have about a dozen LaserDiscs (mostly Japanese Anime) that I got from a friend some years ago, but the players are so darn expensive 😞 I would love to dump them properly but unless I find a cheap and good player and the Doomsday device gets cheaper, I'm stuck with looking at the beautiful cover art and booklets ...

    • @TheRedOGRE
      @TheRedOGRE 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You could always send them to someone to dump and get them and the files sent back.

    • @forple8930
      @forple8930 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheRedOGRE I'm in a similar predicament as the OP with the Laserdiscs. The thing is, I also know basically nobody who has this setup that could rip it. I would love to "properly" rip my LDs, but for stupid prices for something I don't really have much of a personal "investment" into, honestly drives me away from wanting to do anything with the LD at all, aside from stare at it on my shelf. It's not very easy either way. I can spend tons of money doing it for the single LD I have (which would be ridiculously overkill and expensive), or I can wait until someone with this specific setup just so happens to come within my friend circle, which is full of fellow nerds, but not very likely to occur anytime soon. I have my reservations about sending an LD to someone I don't really know, as well. I don't know how well they'll take care of it, how well they're ripping it, or if they're a bad actor that won't do as asked and simply use it as a way to get a free LD.

    • @Darkstar2342
      @Darkstar2342 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheRedOGRE I contancted some people from the Doomsday Duplicator community in th past, but they all were very ... let's say "unenthusiastic" to help out, so at some point I just gave up 🤷‍♂

    • @TheRedOGRE
      @TheRedOGRE 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Darkstar2342 that's lame. What can you do then? I'm sure someone would help out but finding the right person is probably hard. Sucks when communities are stuck up. It's obvs a bit to expensive to do yourself just on a whim with the dd dumper tool thing and all the storage you'd need to hold those massive files. Hope you meet the right person someday

  • @DanielLopez-up6os
    @DanielLopez-up6os 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well this is amazeballs technology! It's like CryoFlux for laserdisc

  • @wofwof007
    @wofwof007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this detailed look at a great project. There is plenty of content that exists only on laserdisc - including the 3 banned James Bond commentaries.

  • @ltxr9973
    @ltxr9973 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice, looking forward to the next one!

  • @branscombe_
    @branscombe_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m so jealous of you techy types, I’m a network administrator and hardware technician for many years, but never to the likes of you. You inspire me brother.

  • @Gorkab
    @Gorkab 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is truly amazing, and I'll definitely check part 2, as I own a 4300D!!

  • @OogyTheMango
    @OogyTheMango 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Domesday Book captures a ton of information about the population, place names, land ownership. It might not be interesting to read in and of itself, but it's a really important resource for historians, archaeologists, genealogists etc. In other words, it's a unique record of a past time recorded in a physical format whose future utility might not have been apparent to the people who made it, but has lots of value a thousand years later. Much like a Laserdisc of Family Dog or the video from a motion simulator ride, it might not be inherently valuable to everyone, but is still information capturing something about a unique time in history and should be preserved.

  • @garbleduser
    @garbleduser 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first clip you used was from the BEST version of Hitchhiker's Guide. I wish we had more David Dixon as Ford!

  • @tabajaralabs
    @tabajaralabs 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that is INCREDIBLE! Loved the video!

  • @SonicBoone56
    @SonicBoone56 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My immediate reaction to seeing media preservation take major steps like this is "FUCK YEAH!" Also screw anybody who questions why media preservation is important.

  • @firehawk128
    @firehawk128 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'll never use this but I'm happy this exists!

  • @enemycoke
    @enemycoke 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is awesome. Years ago I read that the Japanese Studio Ghibli box set had an English dub that was made to play on flights from the US to Japan. This pops into my head every now and then and I look it up to see if I can find a copy, but haven’t worked super hard looking for rips.Im really excited at the prospect of getting to hear a good audio rip from these discs, or finally justifying the purchase to rip it myself. We could also get a better quality Wizard of Speed and Time!

  • @repatch43
    @repatch43 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn you, making us wait for the second part! :)

  • @waterup380
    @waterup380 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Well, when I was looking at old animated movies, I found out some laserdisc movies were used to make the DVD of the movie from laserdisc. But that's just a few there used the laserdisc because it was better quality then on Betamax or VHS. Plus, it had all the extras the DVD needed in audio, subtitles and so on. So, in the end movies that's on VHS, Betamax, and other formants of the time the laserdisc can be edited different and show extra scenes that other formants never have.

    • @marsilies
      @marsilies 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Typically, when a commercial DVD is released using a "laserdisc" source, it's far more likely to have used the Laserdisc video MASTER, i.e. the video the Laserdisc was made from. So they didn't rip the LD, but used a high quality video tape, sometimes a digital video tape source, especially later in LD's lifetime, that is the same source the Laserdisc was created from.
      And while LD could offer some of the features DVD could, and was often the inspiration of the DVD feature, it was far more limited. For example, LD originally only had two analog audio channels, which it could play as either a single stereo track or two audio tracks. Dolby Digital AC3 used one of the analog audio channels, if it was on it, which left only a single analog mono track on the disc. Later, separate digital audio tracks were added, but you were limited to 4 audio tracks total, and some were likely mono if you tried to split it up. In contrast DVD can hold up to 8 audio tracks, potentially all surround.
      LD also doesn't really have any subtitle support. It has CC support, but nothing else, which often resulted in subtitles being "burned in" to the video image, which limits certain imports. DVD supports up to 32 subtitle tracks.

  • @encryptededdy
    @encryptededdy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It would be cool to see this done for Hi-Vision HD Laserdiscs, although I'm sure we'd need higher bandwidth capture and a lot more complex decoding

    • @brianbuchholtz1521
      @brianbuchholtz1521 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I am also interested in this. Would love to archive my HD laserdiscs in this manner...

  • @DennisStav
    @DennisStav 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hitchiker's guide to the Galaxy?!?!? Well done!

  • @Grdiniz
    @Grdiniz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing work!

  • @PsRohrbaugh
    @PsRohrbaugh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    3:20 while preserving home releases is important, I assume you know that the actual theatrical releases of Star Wars have been preserved by people who scanned the 35mm film and released it in 1080p.

    • @Henkibojj
      @Henkibojj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And 4K too, now, right?

  • @squishyblanket
    @squishyblanket 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have no interest in LaserDisk, but I appreciate archival and preservation work so much. Thank you for your work.

  • @movax20h
    @movax20h 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pretty cool. Very niche, but still cool. I never even seen laserdisc in person, so I am not attached to it, but for sure it is nice to archive it.
    If you have two or three discs of the same release, you might be able to merge multiple captures to fix essentially all dropouts. That would require writing a custom software, but definitively possible.

  • @intell2OOO
    @intell2OOO 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing! Really crazy stuff 😮

  • @zxcvb_bvcxz
    @zxcvb_bvcxz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please do more videos on data preservation!

  • @wright96d
    @wright96d 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    11:02 While not easy, it's very much doable. Laserdisc audio preservationists such as blah-ray (or those who supply Blah-ray with captures to compare) have been capturing ac3 and DTS for years without a DDD.

  • @Spoolingturbo6
    @Spoolingturbo6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not saying this is clickbait, but that was a clever thumbnail. I thought the device was spinning the disc.! XD
    great video. can't wait to see more.

  • @joshuapuett
    @joshuapuett 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally! Can't wait to track down a copy of Big Man on Campus on LD

  • @AtariBorn
    @AtariBorn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Motorcycle Mania or Motorcycle Madness was the name of the ride I was in, at the Joplin Mall in Missouri. It looked like a Star Trek shuttle on hydraulics and the video looked like they strapped a camera to the handlebars of a motorcycle and the ride was unforgettable. Test driving a dirt bike in the city and you end up driving across iron beams, stories high, between skyscrapers. The most subversive amusement ride I've ever been on.

  • @doogie812
    @doogie812 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This looks like fun. I have a Sony LDP-1000A that will track just about anything. It will play disks that won't even start in other machines. It will be interesting to see what is covered in laser rot error correction.