@@manondube7697 It depends on the type of vat you're making, but a good starting point is Michel Garcia's "1-2-3" vat. 1 part indigo, 2 parts lime, 3 parts reduction material. An excellent resource for various kinds of vats is the book, The Art and Science of Natural Dyes. After my vat is established and has been used, I'll go with my intuitive approach to balancing the vat, and that just takes time to learn for yourself. Good luck!
Thank you so much for making this video and showing the process of indigo extraction! I have the tropical indigo plant locally and just starting to learn how to extract colour from it. Would love to learn how to make watercolour with it and dye handmade paper. Looking forward to your next step 🙂
You are so very welcome! You might want to look into the Indigo Pigment Extraction Methods FB group ... tons of good info and a superb group for sharing.
@@smilingsunlight This made me think of you ... maybe some inspiration for your watercolor pursuits: botanicalcolors.com/shop/kits/botanical-color-exploration-kit-by-feral-botanics/
@@smilingsunlight if you're in the US, you can get the lime in a couple of places. It's sold as either 'pickling lime' for canning or in garden centers as hydrated lime for garden amendments. I have a pH meter, so not sure about the strips. Maybe a chemical supplier like for swimming pools or similar. Good luck!
Thank you for the great video series! I live in a cooler climate, but we have very long days in the summer. I think the Japanese indigo would do well here too. Where are you growing?
Thank you! I live in the mountains of Western NC, currently showing as zone 7a. I think J.I. would do well for you. This year our first frost was mid-October. I covered my blooming Japanese Indigo plants and they're still hanging in there. We have several days of below freezing temps coming and I'm going to cut my plants back tomorrow before the rain. Fingers crossed the blooms have been pollinated and seeds have formed ...
Toutes mes excuses pour mon retard à répondre ! J'utilise les ratios 1-2-3 de Michel Garcia. Pour une cuve à sucre, cela représente 1 part d'indigo, 2 parts de citron vert, 3 parts de matière de réduction. J'espère que cela aide.
The indigo particles are very fine, so the weave of most regular cloth (say muslin) is too open. A coffee filter works, but not for the quantity that I'm working with here. The other thing, with regular cloth or coffee filters, they absorb some of the pigment and I want to keep every bit of it. I much prefer using fine nylon, like silkscreen fabric, where the indigo will not cling.
Yes, you can absolutely do that with a 1-2-3 vat. Because of the lime, I'm not so sure about fermentation vat. Maybe see if the J N Liles book addresses that, or the FB group is always a wealth of info, facebook.com/groups/indigopigmentextractionmethods/ I've got a new fermentation vat going. I'm using madder and bran with soda ash to raise the pH. I had one a couple of years ago and then moved, so I'm starting over. I've cobbled together instructions from several different sources, starting with aurorasilk.com/wp/indigo-natural-fermentation-vat/ . I've also gotten a lot of info from Catherine Ellis. Just Google her and you'll come up with a lot of info. I could go on ... my library is chock full! Good luck!
But i can give you a great tip after u pour all of the liquid u just stop with it let the bucket sit for a day u will atleast get 500 more ml of Indigo
Maybe too much lime ... you can rinse your paste to reduce the amount of lime. I haven't done that, but I know folks routinely rinse their paste to get it more pure. I think the FB forum, Indigo Pigment Extraction Methods, might have more info, facebook.com/groups/indigopigmentextractionmethods ... hope this helps!
Have read that people use the tea colored pour off liquid for indirubin dye that maybe reddish to purplish
@@1aliveandwell there is a whole world of ways to use indigo that I have not explored. Endless inspiration! 🙏💙
how much lime and lime is needed to get good pH
@@manondube7697 It depends on the type of vat you're making, but a good starting point is Michel Garcia's "1-2-3" vat. 1 part indigo, 2 parts lime, 3 parts reduction material. An excellent resource for various kinds of vats is the book, The Art and Science of Natural Dyes. After my vat is established and has been used, I'll go with my intuitive approach to balancing the vat, and that just takes time to learn for yourself. Good luck!
This helped a lot for my own experiments, thank you so much!!
Terrific and really great to hear!
Thank you so much for making this video and showing the process of indigo extraction! I have the tropical indigo plant locally and just starting to learn how to extract colour from it. Would love to learn how to make watercolour with it and dye handmade paper. Looking forward to your next step 🙂
You are so very welcome! You might want to look into the Indigo Pigment Extraction Methods FB group ... tons of good info and a superb group for sharing.
@@tendingahandmadelife I joined and look forward to learn more 😀
@@smilingsunlight This made me think of you ... maybe some inspiration for your watercolor pursuits: botanicalcolors.com/shop/kits/botanical-color-exploration-kit-by-feral-botanics/
@@tendingahandmadelife thank you! Had a look and it’s interesting indeed. Will continue exploring, still looking for the hydrated lime and PH strips
@@smilingsunlight if you're in the US, you can get the lime in a couple of places. It's sold as either 'pickling lime' for canning or in garden centers as hydrated lime for garden amendments. I have a pH meter, so not sure about the strips. Maybe a chemical supplier like for swimming pools or similar. Good luck!
Thank you for the great video series! I live in a cooler climate, but we have very long days in the summer. I think the Japanese indigo would do well here too. Where are you growing?
Thank you! I live in the mountains of Western NC, currently showing as zone 7a. I think J.I. would do well for you. This year our first frost was mid-October. I covered my blooming Japanese Indigo plants and they're still hanging in there. We have several days of below freezing temps coming and I'm going to cut my plants back tomorrow before the rain. Fingers crossed the blooms have been pollinated and seeds have formed ...
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Combien faut il mettre de citron vert et de chaux dans la chaudiere dindigo 9:23 pour obtenir le bon ph svp 😊
Toutes mes excuses pour mon retard à répondre ! J'utilise les ratios 1-2-3 de Michel Garcia. Pour une cuve à sucre, cela représente 1 part d'indigo, 2 parts de citron vert, 3 parts de matière de réduction. J'espère que cela aide.
Hola, gracias, despues de echar lime o cal, mueves de balde a balde ?
Sí. Verter de un lado a otro airea y mezcla el pigmento índigo y la cal. La cal ayuda a que el pigmento se asiente en el fondo del balde.
La cal también eleva el pH que es necesario para que se forme el pigmento índigo.
Muchas gracias
can't one just strain the indigo through a cloth or coffee filters?
The indigo particles are very fine, so the weave of most regular cloth (say muslin) is too open. A coffee filter works, but not for the quantity that I'm working with here. The other thing, with regular cloth or coffee filters, they absorb some of the pigment and I want to keep every bit of it. I much prefer using fine nylon, like silkscreen fabric, where the indigo will not cling.
Can one build a dye vat directly from the extraction vat? Im looking to do a fermentation (artificial urine) vat, if that makes a difference.
Yes, you can absolutely do that with a 1-2-3 vat. Because of the lime, I'm not so sure about fermentation vat. Maybe see if the J N Liles book addresses that, or the FB group is always a wealth of info, facebook.com/groups/indigopigmentextractionmethods/ I've got a new fermentation vat going. I'm using madder and bran with soda ash to raise the pH. I had one a couple of years ago and then moved, so I'm starting over. I've cobbled together instructions from several different sources, starting with aurorasilk.com/wp/indigo-natural-fermentation-vat/ . I've also gotten a lot of info from Catherine Ellis. Just Google her and you'll come up with a lot of info. I could go on ... my library is chock full! Good luck!
How to make indigo colour for hair
No idea! But I see people do it all the time ...
But i can give you a great tip after u pour all of the liquid u just stop with it let the bucket sit for a day u will atleast get 500 more ml of Indigo
Thanks for the tip! No indigo crop this year, so I'll be sure to try that next season.
My indigo paste is teal color. Did I do something wrong?
Maybe too much lime ... you can rinse your paste to reduce the amount of lime. I haven't done that, but I know folks routinely rinse their paste to get it more pure. I think the FB forum, Indigo Pigment Extraction Methods, might have more info, facebook.com/groups/indigopigmentextractionmethods ... hope this helps!
Thank you🌺🦋🌼