Horten Ho. 229 - Hitler's UFO
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- Possibly the strangest looking aircraft of WWII, the Horten 229 flying wing was discovered by US forces at the close of the war. Find out the full story here.
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The plane is so modern designed that it almost seems fake in every picture. Everything seems wayyy older that the plane.
Flying wings were being worked on by Northrop well before the Horten brothers started on the Ho 229. Flying wings were nothing new.
The elegance of this plane is stunning to this day.
Yes. Its a good thing they were too late. It wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome of the war, but they would have killed a lot of Allied airmen.
Colani Tower agreed
Colani Tower Like a stealth fly
Still must’ve been aggravating for the pilots used to using responsive rudders to have to use the horten’s airbrakes.
@Friendly Neigbourhood Sun Wheel The Black Sun
This channel is like Forgotten Weapons but with war stories
I believe that theres quite a bit of overlap of users who watch Forgotten weapons, this channel, the Chieftain and some others I'm sure
and the long hair, gay beard and religious significance.
Forgotten Stories
I'd say that title would better fit the history guy
@@derekhenschel3191 nice pfp m8
The Germans had some great aircraft designers.
German technology*exists*
The Allies : It's free real estate
"Yer can't be the only one pimpin them Hos now, ya digg ?" :T
German technology *exists*
Transmissions *break*
Useful weapons *uninvented*
Logistics *shit*
Strategy past the first month of combat *nonexistent*
Superiority of German engineering *about as real as the thousand years reich*
@@jb76489 germany had and still has the best engineers.
@@jb76489 and because that was the case we just dont use jet engines or flew to the moon. Sigh.
@@jb76489 bwahahahhahaah never read such bullshit before
The logistics became shit after the pushback on the eastern front, I'll give you that, but the rest was as good as it gets (except for strategy after Hitler thought it would be intelligent to ignore his experienced and unmatched generals and make himself head general. It wasn't.)
One should mention that the only surviving Horten 2 can be watched at the Technics Museum Berlin since 1994.
It's a 1937 Horten slightly different from this one. So, whenever you visit the city, the museum is a must-do.
Hey thsnx friend
Thank for the tip. I will check it out next time I am there
I might be wrong here, but none of the early versions V1 or V2 of this model design survived. What they have on display in Berlin is one of the types they made before this project, Horten HoIII (Ho 250) and its a glider, after all they had a wide variety of models prior to the Ho229 design (HoIV or Ho 251 is on display in Munich). Some of the models were with push type propeller engines, but most of them gliders... After the war Reimar Horten designed a cargo version in Argentina: Dinfia IA38 if your interested.
Amazing technology for its' time.
The Nazis always planned for the battles of tomorrow but it was the battles of today that took them down.
Today?
This is like 75+ years ago
@@opoxious1592 Subtlety is not your strong point, is it?
No, actually you must be one dumb son of a bitch if you can't understand that remark.
Man, I can only imagine the fear this thing would have wrought over the skies of Britain.
The Britons were at least somewhat used to German bombing, imagine how much more fear it'd've caused in the USA and Canada.
If the Germans had the fuel to fly it in the first place that is
Probably would have spent more time over Germany fighting the futile effort against the hordes of B-17s and B-24s. If you meant as the original bomber idea, It's stealth abilities would certainly have helped but idk how well it would have held up against anti aircraft defenses. Made out of wood and glue...
That pressure suite looks like something from 1930's Flash Gordon!
So like the Mosquito its stealth capability was a byproduct rather then something that was aimed for.
Exactly.
This is the first video I've seen about the 229 which actually explains that. It's always annoyed me that others continue to perpetuate the myth that it was specifically designed TO BE stealthy. Mind you, I can't say I'm too surprised that Mark avoids the sensationalist nonsense and just sticks to the facts!
yes indeed although quite a useful and accidental byproduct at that
We're all not quite sure.....look also how the jet exhausts over the wing tops, very similar to today's stealth planes to have the exhaust "above" and also allowing the exhaust gas to spread out over the wing somewhat to cool it before it departs the plane.....today's tech for less thermal signature.....
Wrong they knew how to minimize radar detection profiles
Jesus these germans were way ahead of their time, imagine if they were all build in pre-war era
Amazing. This would probably still result in ufo reports to this day.
most flying wing aircraft by the DOD still do. B2 regularly did before it was revealed, and even after.
@Edd 1 Exactly. Along with European countries near Germany also as they were putting various objects in the air during that time.
@Edd 1 not the case
@@b.griffin317 As did the F-117
@Edd 1 Either that or the Nothrop flying wings the US had before they ever saw the German designs.
Why do I feel like I’ve seen these in Wolfenstein
Cuz there was a version off it in the game. Remember the opening with the planes?
I know at the end of medal of Honor Frontline you steal one!
I believe you see them pass over in that one diner part in 2
Because you did
It does look similar to the Cobra Rocket Plane featured in Return to Castle Wolfenstein.
I guess there's a reason that Germany is stereotypicaly seen as having hella engineers.
No matter if the Nazi ideology was a condemnable one: this aircraft continues to fascinate me. I hope that once a working reconstruction will take to the skies.
I finally realized every time I've watched these vids on German weapon testing it's always cloudy and overcast. Then I had that Aha moment. They were probably trying to keep allied aircraft from photographing or attacking their prototype,s so they only brought them out when there was significant cloud cover.
Wow. I knew Germany built several 229s, but I didn’t know that they actually flew! Thanks for this excellent video, as always.
Only one Prototype flew... and crashed!😉
Udvar-Hazy museum in Washington DC has 2 of the Horten aircraft. Amazing to see these ultra rare aircraft. I've been lucky enough to visit twice.
There is also a Me-163, Arado 234, and a Do 335 Pfeil.
I love that 2 seat Do 335
Two? Mark said only one was taken to the US, and the others destroyed.
Mugdorna The Do 335 Pfeil was built to be a RAF Mosquito killer.
@@marrioman13 ...it's a different model Horten
Do you have pictures? Id love to see them (and any japanese aircraft you may have seen)
I remember seeing that plane at Washington Dulles along with the Enola Gay! Always wondered what the backstory to it was. It looks 40 years ahead of its time.
If Batman had a plane.
Joseph Stalin he does its it’s called the batwing. proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffc00.deviantart.net%2Ffs36%2Ff%2F2008%2F261%2Fe%2F2%2FBatwing___Batman_The_Movie_by_Paul_Muad_Dib.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
He does. It's called 'Batplane', 'Batwing', 'Batjet' or 'Batgyro'.
...it would be old German technology.
Joseph Stalin he does,. Its called the **BATWING**
Mr Stalin don't you mean BLYATMAN?
The technological advances taking place right at the end of WW2 were amazing!
Remember, this was the first half of the 1940's!
First time I’ve seen film of a Horton flying
looks like RC
This is by far the best quality history channel
Imagine the bomber crew seeing this
“oh look their 163's are back, and got bigger"
One of the most beautiful aircraft ever, fight me!
Ugly as fuk
BahnSpotter have you seen x47b?
This is jam packed with knowledge
Ah a fellow Goblin slayer
Dr. Felton these videos should be shown in every history classroom!
2:50
The first jet plane/submarine in history.
The pilot looks weird lol
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Yes, that pressure suit does have a bit of Captain-Nemo-20000-leagues-under-the-sea look, doesn't it.
Theory: Mark has actually been alive for thousands of years and witnessed most of these events in person, which is why he's so damn good at what he does
Always amazes me that the German High Command was ordering new aircraft such as this and the Natter, and other wunderweapons, as late as March 1945. How delusional were they?
Not delusional but desperate
I was absolutely blown away when I got to see it in person. Absolutely amazing. The entire museum is.
Thank you.. You won't believe how long I was waiting for you to make that video.🙏
Pl CK7_0_7, likewise.
I was surprised he hadn't already done this one. Seems like a high profile target.
Recent subscriber here and this channel is awesome. In my short time here I’ve come to the conclusion that WWII like all history is an onion but this is one of the few channels I’ve seen that goes in layers deep to uncover the stories within stories. Keep it up!
Thank you so much for not calling it his "stealth" fighter. I have had WAY to many conversations about how there was no intent in making it stealthy. I will now be using this video to not have this conversation. THANK YOU!
"we simply did not expect our Reich to collapse so quickly..
m.th-cam.com/video/dmiVDNRajhM/w-d-xo.html
Fuck you Neo Nazi fuck. I bet your not even Aryan, so you would be treated like a second class citizen lol
So why, if this plane was so fantastic, didn't the allies develop it after the war? I understand that it was because it was a death trap. UK test pilots did not consider it a good design. It had no cockpit floor (except for a canvas rag), not until the front undercart was retracted anyway. There were no partitions between the pilot and the engines. If one of the engines shed a turbine blade or two it's possible it could have 'shot' its own pilot. The noise inside would have been horrendous. There was a red hot oil pump fitted right behind the pilot. If a landing had been 'bumpy' there's a good chance the pilot would have been killed if not severely injured. Modelling the plane revealed that handling at high speeds would suddenly become unstable and shake the plane violently. This is why modern planes are long, not short and wide like the Horten. The Horten brothers were NOT plane designers, they were glider designers and that's why the Gotha engineers were horrified at the first designs and wanted to improve them - but were overridden by the authorities. Ref: Ho 229 'Spirit Of Thuringia' - Shepelev and Ottens, 2006. It's such a shame though. It really looks cool from the outside. I'm sure later versions, andif they had more time and resources, it could have been made into a good plane. But in the end the design concept was not a winner ... until the B2 of course!
Yes YES! Thank you for discussing this fantastic aircraft.
And I do love learning new facts, like that early pressure suit at 5:03 that looks like a dive suit from 20,000 leagues under the sea.
You’re going to defend Germany: Yay
In a brand new jet: Yay
Made of plywood: Nein 👎
Do you realize, that one of the best planes of WW2 is a fighter bomber of WW2 the "Mosquito" also completely, made out of wood.
Why not. The British Mosquito was partly built from wood. The German Ta-154 also used wood, as well as the He-162. The only problem was the glue that was used in the beginning.
At this time in a a not so far country named Great Britain.......
I have a new brand plane to crush nazis: Superb!!!
It is fast an furious: Exciting!!!!
An it is made of wood, we call´em Mosquito: I´m gonna look for some repelent, wait me....
worked for the British
Of course 1/3mm aviation steel is far more resilient against heavy machine guns.
It was a quantum leap at the time & the "out of the box" thinking involved with this design is extraordinary .. German engineering :)
Germany wasn't the only nation trying flying wing aircraft. This didn't introduce anything new.
I find it to be more of a work of extraordinary engineers with impressive skills in working with what they have - they just happened to be German.
Gee, Reminds me of the Northrop N-1M/N-9M.
Ahh yes.
One of my favourite jet planes
And one of my favourite planes to fly in War Thunder :3
First jet i unlocked lol
I will destroy you with my A2D-1
Lucky you. I'm still at Rank III, and jet are still very far away from me
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Nazi dorito
Glorious space dorito
I remember flying it in Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe as Go 229.
Can you make a video about this supposed "Nazi bell" apparent wunderwaffen I keep hearing about? I can't discern whether it's real or fiction.
As far as i know, it is pure fiction.
I love history and particularly advanced Nazi tech, but alas 'Die Glocke' was probably just a cooling tower, and not a time machine or anti gravity experiment.
pogue972 it was a real idea but it was never actually constructed at least not on paper who knows if they actually built one but none have ever been recovered
That would be good. Poland I think the test location was.
Its fiction ; but has an interesting lore...
Hier ein interessantes Buch zum Patentraub der Angloamerikaner: "BEUTELAND" von Bruno Bandulet.
Jede Medaille hat bekanntlich zwei Seiten.
I became fascinated with the Horton back in the early 486 PC days with Lucasarts “Wings of the Luftwaffe”. It had an insert booklet with most of the info provided in your vid. As atrocious as the Nazis were the engineering ability of the German people was astounding. The 163, the 262 really stirred the imagination for me as a kid. Plus they just look wickedly kool. The Horton was always my favorite. I wish we could’ve seen what direction they would’ve headed without all the baggage of Hitler and whatnot.
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Remarkable production. Thank you for your skills in providing us with this historical information.
Wow what an exceedingly strange Helmet design. Reminds me of old divers suits.
This was by far my favorite plane to fly in the old LucasArts PC game Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
Nice and informative contents as usual, thanks Mark :)
The benefit of having no vertical stabilizer is there's no control devices to run through the fuselage to the rear. That means you can fit more bombs into a smaller package. The Germans didn't have the advanced avionics needed to make their flying wing stable enough to fly it 1,000 km...
A typical German pilot at the time didn't have the necessary training to handle most of their advanced aircraft which makes you wonder who was in charge of things there. Who was going to fly these when by this time they were without skilled pilots in any significant numbers.
Thank you Mr.Felton. A gem of a channel!
Dude! That pilot helmet is steampunk dope! I saw a horten plane in Argentina, he was sucessful glider builder.
Ah yes, I remember stealing one of these at the end of Medal of Honor: Frontline...
Also Warship Gunner II, they were the best planes to run off the carrier at land targets.
Man literally makes a great informational video every day, thank you Mark for your hard work!
Talk about cutting edge tech. Wow! Very informative video.
Gee, Reminds me of the Northrop N-1M/N-9M
Great job as always Mark! Crazy how many pieces of “futuristic” military planes were on the table in Germany while losing the war!-Too little, too late! Thanks for the awesome footage👍☝️
Quality content as always mark thanks for the vid
Great channel! Good work!
This aircraft is a beauty and likely a model for many of the modern aircraft models.
Your videos are top class brother !
Been subbed for a long long time now and they’re getting better and better (and more frequent too!) 👌👌
Another good video from Mark Felton.Keep it up!
Another great vid. Got to be one of the best historic docs on TH-cam. I wonder if when the Americans shipped this plane back to the US for tests. It sparked the UFO phenomenon? Just a thought.
I believe this aircraft was being flown from Nelis Airfield USA when Kenneth Arnold encountered them and reported seeing flying disks dubbed saucers by the press.
His discription of the craft as crescent shaped matches the design of the Horton craft.
The moment you started talking about the 3X 1000 project and showed a picture of the Horten brothers, I got immediate flashbacks of Medal of Honor Frontline where I first heard of this aircraft
I am a simple man. I see a Mark Felton Productions video. Then I click on it to watch and leave a like!
Love this channel, quality content and genuinely interesting
If Hitler had applied Lenin’s dictum ‘There’s a special quality in quantity’ - I think all historical conversations would have been different........so many fantastic high end products.
Keep up the good work with these videos. Short and to the point.💯
If Germany had a fleet of these in 1940 that they shared with Japan we can easily imagine a Twilight Zone alternate ending to WWII.
I was at Washington, Dulles airport 2 years ago, knowing what you, Mark said in the video now I hate knowing that I had missed my chance to see the HO 229 being on display there. Then again I left my wallet at home so I was traveling with no money and wasn't able to eat for a day and a half until I got to my destination.
Great F - ing video always.
Left me wanting more. Good video.
I remember this mission in Medal of Honor
Tough one at first, but the end scene worth it.
Brilliant video and thanks for posting. I think you should present on the TV!
Horten : I am your father
Spirit : Noooooo!
3:05 This is an early clip of Herman Goring with Luftwaffe ace Werner Molders, who died in 1941.
Another fascinating production Mark.
Great vid! Interesting to see a vid comparing Jack Northrops and Horton bros flying wing development. Thx!
Thank you for using both systems of measurement in your videos!!! I appreciate not having to always transpose.
The planes are awesome, your videos as well, thank you for giving us history 👏👏👏👏👏👏
No views 13 likes, it’s a conspiracy. Preemptive appreciation for quality content.
Mark, how about an episode of the obsolete biplane British fighters "Faith", "Hope", and "Charity" that fought the Axis during the siege of Malta? Particularly the logistics of keeping them flying.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Far_Fighter_Flight
I always wanted to know about this bird since I knew it in Warthunder !
Thanks Mark ;)
Stuff that dreams and nightmares are made of
Reimar Horten emigrated to Argentina. Designed and built gliders as well as a unique flying wing cargo plane. My father met him in the late 50s and many years later (after we emigrated to the US), dad built a r/c model of one of his designs.
His brother Walter served in the post-war Luftwaffe.
Great video! As always 👏
Absolutely incredible, imagine if Germany had another few years in the war.
They would have gotten A-bombed.
Saw it in August. There is also one of the cockpits of the test gliders next to it.
Thx Mark, excellent as always!
Its hard to think that this wasnt some kind of inspiration or even blueprint for the V bombers and even the B2...
Makes me wonder how stable the 229 was in flight. From what I remember, Northrop had ongoing issues with the XB-35/YB-49, and the B-2 requires computer assistance to remain stable. Such a neat aircraft all the same.
+Sterling Crockett No "229" flew, only the prototypes that were different designs. V1 glider - crashed and destroyed. V2 with jet engines - flew two hours testing and crashed and destroyed. The larger V3 that survives today never flew. This was not a mature design program, though the Hortens should be recognized for their work.
what a flight helmet !! whoa..very alien like /scuba diver / mechanical man ! Frankenstein he looks like all distorted by the glass helmet
I was thinking the same thing,it looks pretty archaic given the aircraft he's flying.
Perhaps they anticipated water landings.
In the early 1990"s there was a computer video game from Lucas Arts called 'Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe'. The Ho.229 was a plane you could fly (though it was called the Gotha 229). The design and cockpit were an exact match to the original. I wish the game still played on my PC. It was one of my favorite.
Could not wait for a Mark Felton Video!!!!
One of the most outstanding aircraft ever, a plane of true beauty, love the footage of it airborne Wow 😍
İn War Thunder we call
it “The Dorito”
Seen that display and half of the others in these videos at the Udvar Hazy museum. Probably my favorite ever. Love to go there on weekends
I just love your videos...good work Mark
The flying wing configuration was not really a new concept as the Horten brothers had been building gliders ( that was their background) in this configuration since the early 1930's. The British, Soviets and Americans had also built flying wing prototypes but conventional designs were getting the job done so they did not pursue them. The Soviets possibly built the earliest such aircraft in the mid 1920 while the Brits did not get theirs airborne untill just after the war...
It would be so cool to see this plane restored
Another great video mark
Horten hears a Who....They used to have this at the Smithsonian annex warehouse in Suitland Maryland and i got to see it during a tour back in the 1990's