8:48 "victim pathi *mattum* dhaa pesanum" disgree this point a bit. We should stand with victim until they get justice but we should also talk about the causes and effects of it so that we move forward towards a *solution* that helps in long-run. If we had only talked about the victim in kolkata case, many hospitals wont be providing the basic facilities to their employees which they are doing now as a result of the outburst in kolkata case. So we should talk about the causes and effects while not diluting the main issue and downplaying the support to victim. we should seek both justice and solution.
Thavaru ninga. Manichow avanga ena solranga na, avanga indha case study a matum dhan solranga indha video la. Avanga matra case oda opitu dilute pani kuzhapa virumbala. Ninga unga college la case study panadillaiya idhu madhiri oru issue edutukitu, illaa, ellaataiyum unga ilaiyila vechukitu kalandadichu saapitu kadaisi la vaandhi edutingala naari poyi. Tavaru ninga, nallaa dilute panringa yaarum focus pana kudadhu. Yen indha kettennam ungaluku.
As a society it’s high time to empathise with the victim as a human, a human like ourselves. Their gender, financial status, age, etc., are all irrelevant.
My school principal called all girls of cls 8-12 today to talk about this issue. She started with how we shouldn't be wearing certain outfits. She said that skin revealing outfits attract attention and hence assault happens. She didn't infact say anything in support of the victim. It was almost like "avanga apdi pannitanga athaan ithu nadanchu neenga athu maari pannathinga". It was really misleading imo considering there were girls who would take it to their heart and think what the principal said was actually right. Princy didn't stop there. She started talking about how its a "shame" and brings "dishonor" to the victim's parents, siblings etc. This really bugged me because her speech had no empathy for the victim. She also said there's no need to go out after 8pm. All I think about is why should the girls alone be instructed? Why would anyone be so against the victim? And the fact that this is coming from the principal of one of the most reputed schools of TN is also concerning. I feel like this would have a really bad influence on the girls. Hopefully people change their mindsets and stop pushing it on others thinking they're right.
Instead of focusing one gender ...all humans have problem example atul subhash....and asking y u should go outside at night... except important reason......and how showing skin is coming under empowerment? There are more western dress u can wear in neat...i am not controlling u...i am just asking what is the reason to wear skin showing clothes?
@@VishnuVishnu-rw9cu simple they do it because it's their wish , like wise it's an individual's choice , be it a man or a women , if they want to wear hijab let them , if they want to wear kurti let them , if they want to wear shorts let them . Avlodhan bro it's just a choice
Tbh the Kolkata case has changed a lot in our hospital , they have give intern doctor's a separate ward allocated (separate male and female) for resting with enough bed and secur identity door lock.
Yeah... What she is saying is right. Also the FIR leaked issue doesn't seem like just a technical glitch. I strongly doubt the power sector. They may do this to threaten the victims. Political parties and individuals should speak up about that.
Girl just spitting facts👏 Happy to see that influencers like you and Mavoc are speaking about this victim shaming issue. It's really triggering me past few days on seeing the victim shaming comments🤦♀️ Glad you spoke about this
@Itsdonyoutube pls read my comment a few more times.. i didn't say she is taking a political stand or shift the focus, I complimented her.. I said that she is not afraid to speak the truth despite the oppressive ruling party (cuz not many ppl does tht!).. who do u think made those girls hold those boards that says "we feel safe in TN".. like heck we do! And Manichow can't mention tis cuz its political and ppl will cry in the comment box but the perpetrator is someone VERY close with the ruling party and is someone important thr. (I'm not sure if he's a member of the party or not) He can b seen in multiple pics w important ppl from the party for several years! I'm saying this because we hav to knw the truth and prevent such future incidents! The party is a default crime club! And yet they manage to cover everything up with thr media influence and thr rowdy culture!!
@@Itsdonyoutube and why do I need to answer that, lol. So I questioned the current party's practices, u decided that I am supporting someone else and want to interrogate me and prove me wrong? This is this issue here, if something bad is happening, accept it and voice against it, despite who did it and the political situations, pls!
@@Itsdonyoutube no its alright, I just don't understand y u wanted to knw which party I support cuz it obviously conveys that u yourself are not talking about the actual issue and want to deviate from it. As I clearly mentioned previously, I'm not making this political. I'm simply shedding the light on the truth that was hidden. What I said about the guy being an important person in the ruling party is true, and thats the reason he has been getting away w everything he has done bfr and the same reason why so many default criminals are happily committing crimes in TN (the crime rates hav drastically increased ever since the current party got elected cuz all the criminals are thr mamas, machans💫) I'm still talking abt the same issue and letting you knw what's actually happening!
Yeah, we do care about the victim... Only in the sense of why did she dress like that, what was she doing at that time etc etc Glad you spoke up sooner
Absolutely disheartened on seeing people embracing victim blaming, even from that RG kar female doc's case too... Thank you for doing this video, even I was trying to challenge this idea of victim blaming on seeing the reaction in my place with no fruition and was disturbed completely for 2 to 3 days.... however, We shouldn't give up on our values trying to educate those who aren't ready to learn to leave their own ego... Thank u for this vdo
2:25 this one is valid though, and the reason people resort to questioning these factors rather than the issue itself is because they have accepted that this is normal, which is messed up but not surprising.
Talking about our problems may help the victim...it's like we all must have faced those problems and we should know how does that feel..I feel like giving opinions and making a point about any similar issue may also create a change amoung the citizens..your right about the part where u say we should care about the victims but by making apoint there they (the government)may realise how serious are these issues...you are also right when you say that it is not the correct time to talk about it but there will be no time for these issues to be discussed..the government only hears when there is an issue going on ...thanking for talking about the issue
''One Doesn't Oppress Another on the Basis of Religion,Race,Caste,Class,Community,Ethnicity,Gender He would Oppress if He WANTS TO and BE ABLE to when the Another one is Weak Enough''
Only few days before I started to follow you maa...my daughter introduced you.... your opinions and point of views on all things are perfect.... this video will give awareness to more people including me ....keep going
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People are becoming like aj bhairav's crocodile reel. Most of the people be like:why ur going their but no-one give a sh*t about the criminal roaming freely (my opinion)
As a general public the maximum we can do is to voice out for the victim and the injustice happened. But unfortunately all of these will be easily overshadowed by the agenda being set by the politicians for their own plans and the laws and officials will be keep on favouring them.. So my kind request to all my fellows and friends, let us position ourself as policy makers and officials and serve the public to the good. Thats the only way to make a difference
That's a clear-cut explanation. People who speak progressive thoughts online have created a video of 6 minutes in which they spoke about justice being denied to Atul Subash for only 30 seconds and after that, as usual, started speaking about how women have been victimized for ages. I do agree with that but this is not the time to talk about it. It is something equal to saying not all men during an assault case. People are concerned about their clouts rather than focusing on the issue as you said. Also, we gotta demand stringent action on people who misuse those laws rather than removing the alimony/maintenance processes because it is a right given to women who refrained from being financially independent. People love victimizing themselves by placing themselves in the situation where these issues happen in society
@meghanasundar9672 yeah bro bribing the people who holds authority has lead to injustice but there still some gems that hold authority and stay loyal to our Indian flag
I totally agree your point on anna university case but in atul subash case the woman earning money from working at Accenture she used the alimony as the weapon to exploit the subash . Nowadays most of the women use alimony case as the weapon to men. That's why men are asking to ban or update the alimony case. Nowadays most of woman are working. If your husband doesn't allow you to work (i know husband doesn't have rights to say just in case) you can have alimony for your needs only, not wants. Alimony should equal. If women doesn't have work men have to agree to give alimony likewise if a men lost or doesn't have women have ti agree to give.
Someone said it..i have been saying this for years and years,nobody took it serious(at the end the victim is shamed and silenced violently)unfair world
my god so true, in both the cases i saw so little sympathy for the victim, and the cases where draged through the mud until one cant seperate the truth and propoganda from each other. This is a trend I and most others would also have observed going up lately. The main cause in both the cases are no where discussed- the use and justification of serious crimes to instill fear, the inefficiency and insensitivity of the institutions as the fail to evolve with time and curruption rampant in our country that will eventually come back and bites the most vulnerable of our socity. I think it is beacuse we are currently transitioning to a more equal society, so the dying institutions are getting louder in order to survive- will we fall for the empty vessels or make progress only time can tell. All this is such an insult to both the victims.
I feel safe nu board pudikirathulaa yengaa akka vum irrukaa.... Actual aa anga yenna nadanthuchinaaa yenga area MLA oru 10 college girls aaa kuputuuu ipdi board pudika sonnaruu athuku each person uuku some amount kuduthaarruuu ..... Literally anga irruka yaarukum yethukaaga board pudikuromeyy theriyathu....😢😢
இந்த சம்பவம் தொடர்பாக பேசியதற்கு வாழ்த்துக்கள்... காலம் நமக்கு விபச்சார அரசியல்வாதிகளின் முகத்திரையை கிழித்துள்ளது... மக்கள் நாம் தான் இவர்களிடம் கவனமாக இருக்க வேண்டும்..
Ya I totally agreed someone talked the importance of the issues .. but I want to tell one thing political people make it for their convenience but yes it should help and give victim a support that they feel someone is supporting us ... Cause still government doesn't give any statement we will take care like it.... Even court has come forward and told we are with here.... So I felt eventhough they politicise the issue it will give some support to the victim side
enga university la inike full checking i have never seen such checking , ulla na ponathae late but they checked id cards!!!!! people never ever have done these thing in my university only after this incident they are checking everyone hope they keep doing this check forever
Great video 🤝 8:41 Yes i think it maybe relevant to the victim... Nammaku judicial reforms theva paduthu, so intha maari incident nadakura apo atha pathi pesuranga, athukaaga victim pathi care panala nu meaning illa , nalaiku inoru victim ah yaarum iruka kudaathunu thaan... Tommorow ipadi orutharku nadaka kudathu nu pesarthula thappu illa nu naa nenaikuran , but neenga 8:30 la avan avanuku yena venumo pesuranga nu solringa.. yes there are some selfish people who're using this as a chance for their own benefit ....
Even en amma kooda antha ponnu mela thaan thappu sonnaga naa kettan ippoo ennaku appti nadantha enna solluva nu ketathuku apro yosikuranga i felt so bad
Simple no means no...if a anyone with a sexual intent lays a single finger without concent on a person it is to be considered assaulting someone and the affected person is A victim to the assault...so what manichow speaks here 💯 right
Naa epo victim ku support panni pesuran en appa vey enna solluraru na antha ponnu antha time ku en pothu arhuku naa ketan paati chinna vayasula irukum pothu intha maari nadakalaiya nu keta en thituraru ipo oru justise venumna ivanga family ku nadanthatha theriyum pola en veetula naa orey paiuan ithuvey enaku oru thangachi irunthu intha maari nadanthu iruntha en appa ippadi pesuvaara . Ethachum keta antha ponnu en atha time la pochu aparam vera onnu sonnaru antha num kuda sernthu plan panni irukan illa en odanum nu illa enaku puriysla oru vishayam nadakuthuna justice kedaikanum nu think panna masturanga onnu antha ponna kora solluranga illana ithula antha ponnu petsonal life la poi pesuranga
About Atul Subhash Video, go and watch his 90 minutes video. He himself was blaming the judiciary, the laws are completely one sided. Even a little provided for men in the law are not followed in the court. His wife was working and hide those details in the court, when Atul Subhash pointed it out he was not allowed to file Perjury on his wife. These days it is very common that a working women hide the details to get interim maintenance and Alimony and get away without any consequence when found out, Atul himself mentioned at least make some changes in the law after his death. Better you watch the video
7:35 compulsiveness to fit in a event to “strengthen” their own theory. Seeking validation and giving validation of one’s own theory/principles have been the primary behavior of an individual in any event apart from their personal/professional space. Rather than standing and supporting for the other individual.
Idk if you will read or think about what I say but ya I totally agree with ur statements in anna university case , I felt the exact same and victim shaming in any form should be avoided and stopped but what you said in relation to the Banglore case is totally wrong , ppl are talking about the need for change in laws not cuz they don’t care about the victim and just cuz they wanna prove their point, it’s because they care for what a man has been through and they can relate to it ,believe it or not half the time when men are being played seriously by a woman society doesn’t give a damn , trust me I’m a law student and I’ve seen a lot of such cases, firstly u can’t deny the fact the laws or more inclined towards the women than what it should be ,for example in bsa(new evidence act ) it is clearly stated that even if a women cheated her husband with some other guy when she is in marriage or even 280 days after divorce, ie if she has sex with any other person and she gets pregnant. The previous guy who was in the marriage will be held as the father for the child and it will be treated as as legitimate hair which includes property rights. The same can’t be disproved without conclusive proof. Concluisve proof is like something like blood samples, DNA test or whatever, but also the same courts give the women and their child to say no to blood tests even if the legitimate father asks for it(in short the right is with the women who is the accused to give her child’s blood, and the case can’t be solved, infertile men had had kids in our country acc to law trust me ) same with dowry , in the vedio like what u said there’s only a separate section called cruelty to women not men , if she’s filing a fake case she’ll punished only under a false complaint there’s no separate law for women misusing this particular section , and ur claim is totally wrong , if we speak about divorce laws , almost 80 percent of the dowry cases at present are false ( a female inspector gave this statement in Hindu and trust me I’ve interned in family courts and 8 out of 10 cases are mostly for money or misuse), just in 2011 ,30 thousand fake dowry cases were recorded imagine how many would be now ,So yeah that’s not a small amount ,even this needs action taken and even all the men who were against such acts didn’t raise any muranpadu with women or generalised women that women are like this, most of the men just protested that the laws are biased and it’s need to changed which is a fact… same with maintenance, in the age where we are striving to achieve equality why are only men supposed to pay maintenance to wives and parents, if it’s truly based on income then shouldn’t it be gender neutral, I’ve seen women who dont have kids asking 60 percent of what a man is earning when she is earning more than him and most of the time high court judges themselves (includes women mostly in family courts ) have gotten so furious on how frivolous their claims are … next time your making a vedio on political , social and especially legal statements widen ur research , it would be great thanks
Well articulated. Addressed the points like nails on the head. Ellaarum thannoda ego ah save pannika endha side pesanumo andha side dhaan pesuranga. Hypocrites. This all roots from insecurity about own gender and vanmam against opposite gender. Idhu chinna vayasula irundhu sollitharanum. How to treat others irrespective of gender nu. Veetlaye difference kondu vandhudranga. Since childhood. Ellaam maaranum.
Girl...! Thank you for posting this... I now know what to talk and how to talk when some issue of the same kind happens... honestly.. enakkey theriyaama naan situation user ah dhaan irundhurukken.. thanks again for this vide.. from now on.. I can be better😅
In the case related to s*xual @ssaults, Schools,colleges,temple,hospital etc.., these sexual assaults happened everywhere, every place. Ennadhan naama social media la indha @ssaults lam edhuku nadakuthu apdilam nadaka vidakoodathu nu precautions edukanum nu pesunalum konjam practicala yosichu paarungalen. Offenders(who commits crime) yaara vena irukalam. Chinna paiyan la irundhu vayasana aal vara yara vena irukalam We don't know who. Adha vitutu naama nammala epdi protect pannanum ngradha pathi pesanum. Idhu konjam muttal thanama kooda theriyalam. Aana Namaku nu oru prachanai varumbodhu dhan puriyum. Nammala naamadhan paathukanum..
Everything went well till you spoke about Atul Subash case Mani, Systematic Injustice nadanthirkum pothu, Systematic correction thaana solution, Apdi paakum pothu thaan 498A oda punitive damages a kami panna solli ellarum kekranga, those who were asking for equal laws were actually fighting for the victim mani, En na Ithuku aprom innoru atul subash case varama Iruka thaana antha law va equalise panna kekranga. Athuvum Anna Uni caseum, compare panrathu avlo seri ila.
Yes, equal laws venum nu solradhu thappey illa. Subtitles la potrupen. Healthy discussion on reformation of law should happen. Law vaye uproot panunga, law vey waste nu pesi deviation create panradhu dha venda nu solirpen
Akka neenga correct ah sonninga Edhe dhaan naan vetulaiyum sonnen Paru amma inno rendu naal leh entha perachanei ye vera konathula mathiduvanga nu And this is happening Loop are available to powers not for justice If u want to win u need to confuse and divert them *this is happening now
In Atul Subash case he mentioned about this laws getting misused against men. The core theme of is death is not only his own personal life Read his letter and watch his videos. About the victim blaming I completely agree both of them were just harra. Ssed by the society One was called not manly enough and other became the own reason for her tragedy And I think you missed something. A large amount of feminist were mentioned that they are happy about Atul's death.
You have a Point. about victim. I agree 👍. But do you think we don't? No. What we can do? Law is not strict Even in strict laws in ancient times,our ancestors taught us a solution why? Because human heart is the most unpredictable thing in the world. Why are people advice certain things to do? Because it can save a lot of trouble and minimalise our suffering. Why people blaming the victim ? If that girl is responsible and been disciplined why she have to endure this humiliation? People take it as a bad example to teach other children to be responsible for their honour and dignity. We can only feel sad for that girl's problem! Here nobody cares other than that. If people want to prevent these kind of incidents for their family, they can only do this. It was called prevention.
7:44 mani accrual fact ahh na enna pakarana ethachum problem boom aana than na pesa mudiyum summa matha topic ahh pathu pesa na yarum keka matanga la 😮
😮💨 in this case getting bleming or victim awareness ! the boy run away it's shame do not do that , also the girl believe and go that also do not do .... that's all , if victim have mistake , we need to make sure another victim do not create by repeating the same mistake ...
The boy take her to the dark and ran than away when criminal appears is the real criminal here , if he can't protect her in a vicious environment he shouldn't have take her rather could have gone to safer and more public places. Its not victim blaming if you could have a chance protect yourself and you still been lethargic there also some fault with you.
What will be the solution for these issues!?. Where are the tamilnadu students to learn something that might change and support the people who live right. Your views
Here i want to talk about atul subash case where we can lost a life here which is not acceptable but let's have situation like atul is not dead he is saying these whether people really care about the issues or how fake cases plays a major role literally zero This is the time we need to talk about issues which is related to this case nobody is gonna hear how alimony affect the person mentally and physically as well in my perspective i don't want to loss another atul subash in this short attention span generation which is needed to addressed immediately I still believe justice delayed is justice denied
Great video by the way… and this did not happen only in the mentioned two scenarios i saw the same thing happening during the kolkata case as well… the whole incident was haunting and as a citizen i felt helpless for the victim clueless what can be done more to prevent such things happening in India … but started seeing posts in social media saying we need laws to refrain boys from coming outside after 10pm in night and covering their eyes should be brought to bring in women safety .. this totally drifted the whole agitation towards another debate and i felt the victim was again left helpless
Glad you've spoken about this. ❤ Let's hope this Video will influence some people in the right way
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👏 i agree with you bro 💯
I agree with you bro 💯
8:48 "victim pathi *mattum* dhaa pesanum" disgree this point a bit. We should stand with victim until they get justice but we should also talk about the causes and effects of it so that we move forward towards a *solution* that helps in long-run. If we had only talked about the victim in kolkata case, many hospitals wont be providing the basic facilities to their employees which they are doing now as a result of the outburst in kolkata case. So we should talk about the causes and effects while not diluting the main issue and downplaying the support to victim. we should seek both justice and solution.
Yup neenga solradhu perfect, i should've phrased it better.
@@manichoww ✌🏻
But causes are known by only means of when a social injustice occurs in our society
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As some said, the main cause to treat a cause is a cause
finally someone who makes sense
Thavaru ninga. Manichow avanga ena solranga na, avanga indha case study a matum dhan solranga indha video la. Avanga matra case oda opitu dilute pani kuzhapa virumbala. Ninga unga college la case study panadillaiya idhu madhiri oru issue edutukitu, illaa, ellaataiyum unga ilaiyila vechukitu kalandadichu saapitu kadaisi la vaandhi edutingala naari poyi. Tavaru ninga, nallaa dilute panringa yaarum focus pana kudadhu. Yen indha kettennam ungaluku.
As a society it’s high time to empathise with the victim as a human, a human like ourselves. Their gender, financial status, age, etc., are all irrelevant.
And aslo their sexuality I suppose ❤
No wonder our society teaches "Don't get raped" rather than "Don't rape"!
Point
Its illogical
I think nobody teaches "don't get raped". it's like you are exaggerating...
@@user-nt1bg5rj3t so is your existence
@@Thalapathy_tvk_07 yep
My school principal called all girls of cls 8-12 today to talk about this issue. She started with how we shouldn't be wearing certain outfits. She said that skin revealing outfits attract attention and hence assault happens. She didn't infact say anything in support of the victim. It was almost like "avanga apdi pannitanga athaan ithu nadanchu neenga athu maari pannathinga". It was really misleading imo considering there were girls who would take it to their heart and think what the principal said was actually right. Princy didn't stop there. She started talking about how its a "shame" and brings "dishonor" to the victim's parents, siblings etc. This really bugged me because her speech had no empathy for the victim. She also said there's no need to go out after 8pm. All I think about is why should the girls alone be instructed? Why would anyone be so against the victim? And the fact that this is coming from the principal of one of the most reputed schools of TN is also concerning. I feel like this would have a really bad influence on the girls. Hopefully people change their mindsets and stop pushing it on others thinking they're right.
Instead of focusing one gender ...all humans have problem example atul subhash....and asking y u should go outside at night... except important reason......and how showing skin is coming under empowerment? There are more western dress u can wear in neat...i am not controlling u...i am just asking what is the reason to wear skin showing clothes?
@@VishnuVishnu-rw9cu simple they do it because it's their wish , like wise it's an individual's choice , be it a man or a women , if they want to wear hijab let them , if they want to wear kurti let them , if they want to wear shorts let them . Avlodhan bro it's just a choice
wow
What's the principal name? Jasmine?
Everything she has said makes sense
Tbh the Kolkata case has changed a lot in our hospital , they have give intern doctor's a separate ward allocated (separate male and female) for resting with enough bed and secur identity door lock.
Naan intern ah irukum podu naanga rest eduthutu irunda room ah yen night rest edukanum nu solli pootu potanga bro enga college la 2 years back😅
Cost : A Women's Life 😔
Enga college la onume marla still the same old shit....
@@Yashwanth_Babu Idhe than bro na intern ah irukum bothu labour ward la intern room ku pootu potanga.. after watching changeover duty.. trauma 😤
"Teaching Victims May not reduce the number of Guilty , but punishing or teaching the Guilty will definitely reduce the number of Victims"
You are really bold to voice out for these issues. Continue the great work.
manichow is a gift that keeps on giving. keep up the work you are doing MC.
lolz... copied comment from foreign youtube channels
Copied comment 😂
Yeah... What she is saying is right. Also the FIR leaked issue doesn't seem like just a technical glitch. I strongly doubt the power sector. They may do this to threaten the victims. Political parties and individuals should speak up about that.
So NIC central agency lied to court?
How can we accept just 'technical glitch', etho zoom meeting la solra mathiri solida mudiyuma? Then how could we trust police and law?
@@San-911 Go ask NIC agency its controlled by Union Govt
Hats off for raising the voice 👍
you gained huge respect by speaking my mind! keep doing this!
Proud of you girl ! Literally , I wonder how you convey things what exactly it is !
Thank u for voicing out manichow.
Respect!!! You didn't use your regular intro for this video, it may seems like portraying the content in a funnier way. RESPECT!!!
Girl just spitting facts👏 Happy to see that influencers like you and Mavoc are speaking about this victim shaming issue. It's really triggering me past few days on seeing the victim shaming comments🤦♀️ Glad you spoke about this
Bro i m really proud to be a follower of matured creator. Grow high bro and love your boldness!
Mee too menn❤❤❤❤❤
We have to appreciate this girl🙌
Proud of what you are doing with your channel Manisha !! Louder and clear !! 💪🏾
Justice dies when it comes near to people who have power and money
8:27 the accuracy of this point is actually concerning
I whis every youtuber to speak about this ...Thank you for speaking about this ... appreciate your action ❤
Great to see you voicing out on these issues. The respect on you has further increased . Keep going ♥️
PLS SUPPORT THIS PERSON! SHE IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH DESPITE THE OPPRESSIVE RULING PARTY!!
@Itsdonyoutube pls read my comment a few more times.. i didn't say she is taking a political stand or shift the focus, I complimented her.. I said that she is not afraid to speak the truth despite the oppressive ruling party (cuz not many ppl does tht!).. who do u think made those girls hold those boards that says "we feel safe in TN".. like heck we do! And Manichow can't mention tis cuz its political and ppl will cry in the comment box but the perpetrator is someone VERY close with the ruling party and is someone important thr. (I'm not sure if he's a member of the party or not) He can b seen in multiple pics w important ppl from the party for several years! I'm saying this because we hav to knw the truth and prevent such future incidents! The party is a default crime club! And yet they manage to cover everything up with thr media influence and thr rowdy culture!!
@@Itsdonyoutube and why do I need to answer that, lol. So I questioned the current party's practices, u decided that I am supporting someone else and want to interrogate me and prove me wrong? This is this issue here, if something bad is happening, accept it and voice against it, despite who did it and the political situations, pls!
@@Itsdonyoutube no its alright, I just don't understand y u wanted to knw which party I support cuz it obviously conveys that u yourself are not talking about the actual issue and want to deviate from it. As I clearly mentioned previously, I'm not making this political. I'm simply shedding the light on the truth that was hidden. What I said about the guy being an important person in the ruling party is true, and thats the reason he has been getting away w everything he has done bfr and the same reason why so many default criminals are happily committing crimes in TN (the crime rates hav drastically increased ever since the current party got elected cuz all the criminals are thr mamas, machans💫) I'm still talking abt the same issue and letting you knw what's actually happening!
Yeah, we do care about the victim...
Only in the sense of why did she dress like that, what was she doing at that time etc etc
Glad you spoke up sooner
Glad you spoke the same news triggered me also. Even this bad time they were worried about the Bad PR of their politics instead of the real victims.
Absolutely disheartened on seeing people embracing victim blaming, even from that RG kar female doc's case too... Thank you for doing this video, even I was trying to challenge this idea of victim blaming on seeing the reaction in my place with no fruition and was disturbed completely for 2 to 3 days.... however, We shouldn't give up on our values trying to educate those who aren't ready to learn to leave their own ego... Thank u for this vdo
Great video. We need more such voices to refocus the public discourse to address plight of the victims👏👏
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this one is valid though, and the reason people resort to questioning these factors rather than the issue itself is because they have accepted that this is normal, which is messed up but not surprising.
purest message with clear moral
Talking about our problems may help the victim...it's like we all must have faced those problems and we should know how does that feel..I feel like giving opinions and making a point about any similar issue may also create a change amoung the citizens..your right about the part where u say we should care about the victims but by making apoint there they (the government)may realise how serious are these issues...you are also right when you say that it is not the correct time to talk about it but there will be no time for these issues to be discussed..the government only hears when there is an issue going on ...thanking for talking about the issue
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''One Doesn't Oppress Another on the Basis of Religion,Race,Caste,Class,Community,Ethnicity,Gender He would Oppress if He WANTS TO and BE ABLE to when the Another one is Weak Enough''
New year
But unfinished old story in our country 😔🤦🏻♂️
Only few days before I started to follow you maa...my daughter introduced you.... your opinions and point of views on all things are perfect.... this video will give awareness to more people including me ....keep going
*Biriyani man* : neenga ellam een anna university issue pathi pesala.............
*Manichow* : irunga bhai..........😈😈😈
Ivangala avar solave ilaya 😂😂😂
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People are becoming like aj bhairav's crocodile reel. Most of the people be like:why ur going their but no-one give a sh*t about the criminal roaming freely (my opinion)
As a general public the maximum we can do is to voice out for the victim and the injustice happened. But unfortunately all of these will be easily overshadowed by the agenda being set by the politicians for their own plans and the laws and officials will be keep on favouring them.. So my kind request to all my fellows and friends, let us position ourself as policy makers and officials and serve the public to the good. Thats the only way to make a difference
end of day it's the government who decides what it's people should know and what not to know. remains same for all the countries and places.
That's a clear-cut explanation. People who speak progressive thoughts online have created a video of 6 minutes in which they spoke about justice being denied to Atul Subash for only 30 seconds and after that, as usual, started speaking about how women have been victimized for ages. I do agree with that but this is not the time to talk about it. It is something equal to saying not all men during an assault case. People are concerned about their clouts rather than focusing on the issue as you said. Also, we gotta demand stringent action on people who misuse those laws rather than removing the alimony/maintenance processes because it is a right given to women who refrained from being financially independent. People love victimizing themselves by placing themselves in the situation where these issues happen in society
Mani im so glad you talked about this
The disrespect by the judge to atul subash was another level (watched mg na video)
Yes bro, this was one point everyone overlooked. The corruption that had lead to the injustice.
@meghanasundar9672 yeah bro bribing the people who holds authority has lead to injustice but there still some gems that hold authority and stay loyal to our Indian flag
I totally agree your point on anna university case
but in atul subash case the woman earning money from working at Accenture she used the alimony as the weapon to exploit the subash . Nowadays most of the women use alimony case as the weapon to men. That's why men are asking to ban or update the alimony case. Nowadays most of woman are working. If your husband doesn't allow you to work (i know husband doesn't have rights to say just in case) you can have alimony for your needs only, not wants. Alimony should equal. If women doesn't have work men have to agree to give alimony likewise if a men lost or doesn't have women have ti agree to give.
Someone said it..i have been saying this for years and years,nobody took it serious(at the end the victim is shamed and silenced violently)unfair world
2:34 pollachi case la kooda intha maathiri thaan pannanga so inniku varaikkum antha perpetrators ku Punish pannala manichoww
you are great. Keep going ahead on posting these kind of videos we got your back!
my god so true, in both the cases i saw so little sympathy for the victim, and the cases where draged through the mud until one cant seperate the truth and propoganda from each other. This is a trend I and most others would also have observed going up lately. The main cause in both the cases are no where discussed- the use and justification of serious crimes to instill fear, the inefficiency and insensitivity of the institutions as the fail to evolve with time and curruption rampant in our country that will eventually come back and bites the most vulnerable of our socity. I think it is beacuse we are currently transitioning to a more equal society, so the dying institutions are getting louder in order to survive- will we fall for the empty vessels or make progress only time can tell. All this is such an insult to both the victims.
9:07 inime oru thappu nadakumothu... Avlo confident ah irukom la namma... 😢 As a society, India failed!
4:28 :Well said mam! Dear youngsters endha case aa political aa divert panna vidama.. victim ku justice kedaika vaikanum... that guy must be punished
I feel safe nu board pudikirathulaa yengaa akka vum irrukaa.... Actual aa anga yenna nadanthuchinaaa yenga area MLA oru 10 college girls aaa kuputuuu ipdi board pudika sonnaruu athuku each person uuku some amount kuduthaarruuu ..... Literally anga irruka yaarukum yethukaaga board pudikuromeyy theriyathu....😢😢
இந்த சம்பவம் தொடர்பாக பேசியதற்கு வாழ்த்துக்கள்...
காலம் நமக்கு விபச்சார அரசியல்வாதிகளின் முகத்திரையை கிழித்துள்ளது...
மக்கள் நாம் தான் இவர்களிடம் கவனமாக இருக்க வேண்டும்..
Ya I totally agreed someone talked the importance of the issues .. but I want to tell one thing political people make it for their convenience but yes it should help and give victim a support that they feel someone is supporting us ... Cause still government doesn't give any statement we will take care like it.... Even court has come forward and told we are with here.... So I felt eventhough they politicise the issue it will give some support to the victim side
We all stand with you ka
enga university la inike full checking i have never seen such checking , ulla na ponathae late but they checked id cards!!!!! people never ever have done these thing in my university only after this incident they are checking everyone hope they keep doing this check forever
Great video 🤝
8:41 Yes i think it maybe relevant to the victim...
Nammaku judicial reforms theva paduthu, so intha maari incident nadakura apo atha pathi pesuranga, athukaaga victim pathi care panala nu meaning illa , nalaiku inoru victim ah yaarum iruka kudaathunu thaan...
Tommorow ipadi orutharku nadaka kudathu nu pesarthula thappu illa nu naa nenaikuran , but neenga 8:30 la avan avanuku yena venumo pesuranga nu solringa.. yes there are some selfish people who're using this as a chance for their own benefit ....
Yov exacttlyyyyy. Correctt ah sonninga.
1. First nenga atul subash case fulla parugaa
2. Ingaa yerum gender blame pannalaa ( ithe oru ponnuku nadathu iruthaa women's ku safe illanu solluviga) inga nan women u mention pannathu kudaa, women nu oru gendera mention pannalaa ungaluku puriyarathuku thaan sonnen
3. Nanga onnum women ku against kedaiyathu inga yellarum onnu thaan. Anaivarukum samamana sattam irukanum
4. Ipo dheli la punithu orutharu ithemari irathutaru ( parunga itha mari case's neraiya iruku 😢 ithunal varaikum senthavanga konja peruthaan , intha mari pirachanaiyalaa sagama irukuravangaa yevelo perunu theriumaa 😢)
5. Yenaku marriage agai 3 varusam aguthu Yen life laa um ithea mari thaan nadathutu irukuuu (kasu ketu romba torcher pandranga) maybe adutha Atul Subash nanakuda irukalam.
6. Kalathuku yethamari sattathaium mathanum !!!
Political ila political ilanu solitu pona mannavari nammathalaiyile pottuka vendithaan... Ellame political thaan inga
Even en amma kooda antha ponnu mela thaan thappu sonnaga naa kettan ippoo ennaku appti nadantha enna solluva nu ketathuku apro yosikuranga i felt so bad
FIR leak panadhu kaaranam, apa dhaan idha maari nadandha complaint kuduka bayapadanum nu, idha vida echa vela irukave irukadhu😢
Simple no means no...if a anyone with a sexual intent lays a single finger without concent on a person it is to be considered assaulting someone and the affected person is A victim to the assault...so what manichow speaks here 💯 right
Naa epo victim ku support panni pesuran en appa vey enna solluraru na antha ponnu antha time ku en pothu arhuku naa ketan paati chinna vayasula irukum pothu intha maari nadakalaiya nu keta en thituraru ipo oru justise venumna ivanga family ku nadanthatha theriyum pola en veetula naa orey paiuan ithuvey enaku oru thangachi irunthu intha maari nadanthu iruntha en appa ippadi pesuvaara . Ethachum keta antha ponnu en atha time la pochu aparam vera onnu sonnaru antha num kuda sernthu plan panni irukan illa en odanum nu illa enaku puriysla oru vishayam nadakuthuna justice kedaikanum nu think panna masturanga onnu antha ponna kora solluranga illana ithula antha ponnu petsonal life la poi pesuranga
The internet and its anonymity brings out the real face of the people
About Atul Subhash Video, go and watch his 90 minutes video. He himself was blaming the judiciary, the laws are completely one sided. Even a little provided for men in the law are not followed in the court. His wife was working and hide those details in the court, when Atul Subhash pointed it out he was not allowed to file Perjury on his wife. These days it is very common that a working women hide the details to get interim maintenance and Alimony and get away without any consequence when found out, Atul himself mentioned at least make some changes in the law after his death. Better you watch the video
Manichow... You achieved one more fan🫶🏻 from last few days I watched all of your videos and addicted to your presentation...😌 keep going👍🏻
Hats off akka 👏🏽
Your point is so valid I agree that , no one can speak about university case especially I am also forgot the issue now I realize my mistake
I feel shame about that I am studying in that college I can ask about this to my hod 😢
7:35 compulsiveness to fit in a event to “strengthen” their own theory. Seeking validation and giving validation of one’s own theory/principles have been the primary behavior of an individual in any event apart from their personal/professional space. Rather than standing and supporting for the other individual.
Idk if you will read or think about what I say but ya I totally agree with ur statements in anna university case , I felt the exact same and victim shaming in any form should be avoided and stopped but what you said in relation to the Banglore case is totally wrong , ppl are talking about the need for change in laws not cuz they don’t care about the victim and just cuz they wanna prove their point, it’s because they care for what a man has been through and they can relate to it ,believe it or not half the time when men are being played seriously by a woman society doesn’t give a damn , trust me I’m a law student and I’ve seen a lot of such cases, firstly u can’t deny the fact the laws or more inclined towards the women than what it should be ,for example in bsa(new evidence act ) it is clearly stated that even if a women cheated her husband with some other guy when she is in marriage or even 280 days after divorce, ie if she has sex with any other person and she gets pregnant. The previous guy who was in the marriage will be held as the father for the child and it will be treated as as legitimate hair which includes property rights. The same can’t be disproved without conclusive proof. Concluisve proof is like something like blood samples, DNA test or whatever, but also the same courts give the women and their child to say no to blood tests even if the legitimate father asks for it(in short the right is with the women who is the accused to give her child’s blood, and the case can’t be solved, infertile men had had kids in our country acc to law trust me ) same with dowry , in the vedio like what u said there’s only a separate section called cruelty to women not men , if she’s filing a fake case she’ll punished only under a false complaint there’s no separate law for women misusing this particular section , and ur claim is totally wrong , if we speak about divorce laws , almost 80 percent of the dowry cases at present are false ( a female inspector gave this statement in Hindu and trust me I’ve interned in family courts and 8 out of 10 cases are mostly for money or misuse), just in 2011 ,30 thousand fake dowry cases were recorded imagine how many would be now ,So yeah that’s not a small amount ,even this needs action taken and even all the men who were against such acts didn’t raise any muranpadu with women or generalised women that women are like this, most of the men just protested that the laws are biased and it’s need to changed which is a fact… same with maintenance, in the age where we are striving to achieve equality why are only men supposed to pay maintenance to wives and parents, if it’s truly based on income then shouldn’t it be gender neutral, I’ve seen women who dont have kids asking 60 percent of what a man is earning when she is earning more than him and most of the time high court judges themselves (includes women mostly in family courts ) have gotten so furious on how frivolous their claims are … next time your making a vedio on political , social and especially legal statements widen ur research , it would be great thanks
Thank you for talking about this👏👏👏👏
Well articulated. Addressed the points like nails on the head. Ellaarum thannoda ego ah save pannika endha side pesanumo andha side dhaan pesuranga. Hypocrites. This all roots from insecurity about own gender and vanmam against opposite gender. Idhu chinna vayasula irundhu sollitharanum. How to treat others irrespective of gender nu. Veetlaye difference kondu vandhudranga. Since childhood. Ellaam maaranum.
Girl...! Thank you for posting this... I now know what to talk and how to talk when some issue of the same kind happens... honestly.. enakkey theriyaama naan situation user ah dhaan irundhurukken.. thanks again for this vide.. from now on.. I can be better😅
Correct well said💯👌👑
Don’t monetise this serious topic videos. The ads making hella mad when we listening seriously
In the case related to s*xual @ssaults, Schools,colleges,temple,hospital etc.., these sexual assaults happened everywhere, every place. Ennadhan naama social media la indha @ssaults lam edhuku nadakuthu apdilam nadaka vidakoodathu nu precautions edukanum nu pesunalum konjam practicala yosichu paarungalen. Offenders(who commits crime) yaara vena irukalam. Chinna paiyan la irundhu vayasana aal vara yara vena irukalam
We don't know who. Adha vitutu naama nammala epdi protect pannanum ngradha pathi pesanum. Idhu konjam muttal thanama kooda theriyalam. Aana Namaku nu oru prachanai varumbodhu dhan puriyum. Nammala naamadhan paathukanum..
Everything went well till you spoke about Atul Subash case Mani, Systematic Injustice nadanthirkum pothu, Systematic correction thaana solution, Apdi paakum pothu thaan 498A oda punitive damages a kami panna solli ellarum kekranga, those who were asking for equal laws were actually fighting for the victim mani, En na Ithuku aprom innoru atul subash case varama Iruka thaana antha law va equalise panna kekranga. Athuvum Anna Uni caseum, compare panrathu avlo seri ila.
Yes, equal laws venum nu solradhu thappey illa. Subtitles la potrupen. Healthy discussion on reformation of law should happen. Law vaye uproot panunga, law vey waste nu pesi deviation create panradhu dha venda nu solirpen
Akka neenga correct ah sonninga
Edhe dhaan naan vetulaiyum sonnen
Paru amma inno rendu naal leh entha perachanei ye vera konathula mathiduvanga nu
And this is happening
Loop are available to powers not for justice
If u want to win u need to confuse and divert them *this is happening now
In Atul Subash case he mentioned about this laws getting misused against men. The core theme of is death is not only his own personal life
Read his letter and watch his videos.
About the victim blaming I completely agree both of them were just harra. Ssed by the society
One was called not manly enough and other became the own reason for her tragedy
And I think you missed something. A large amount of feminist were mentioned that they are happy about Atul's death.
Great speech 💬 continue your journey yo 🎉😊
While watching this video there's a another case happend 'puneet khurana suicidal'😐😐
You have a Point. about victim. I agree 👍. But do you think we don't?
No.
What we can do? Law is not strict
Even in strict laws in ancient times,our ancestors taught us a solution why? Because human heart is the most unpredictable thing in the world. Why are people advice certain things to do? Because it can save a lot of trouble and minimalise our suffering. Why people blaming the victim ? If that girl is responsible and been disciplined why she have to endure this humiliation? People take it as a bad example to teach other children to be responsible for their honour and dignity. We can only feel sad for that girl's problem! Here nobody cares other than that. If people want to prevent these kind of incidents for their family, they can only do this. It was called prevention.
enaku matum thaan thonutha illana unmala 2x la patha than normal youtube video mathiri iruka.Guysif you feel the same like my comment
We need to be change no one will change
I am getting hope .....because I see people commenting down their support for victim ❤ there is little hope left in this world.
7:44 mani accrual fact ahh na enna pakarana ethachum problem boom aana than na pesa mudiyum summa matha topic ahh pathu pesa na yarum keka matanga la 😮
They are debating because no one should be go through such a thing again so in subash case ur point is wrong
😮💨 in this case getting bleming or victim awareness ! the boy run away it's shame do not do that , also the girl believe and go that also do not do .... that's all , if victim have mistake , we need to make sure another victim do not create by repeating the same mistake ...
The boy take her to the dark and ran than away when criminal appears is the real criminal here , if he can't protect her in a vicious environment he shouldn't have take her rather could have gone to safer and more public places. Its not victim blaming if you could have a chance protect yourself and you still been lethargic there also some fault with you.
What will be the solution for these issues!?.
Where are the tamilnadu students to learn something that might change and support the people who live right.
Your views
Here i want to talk about atul subash case where we can lost a life here which is not acceptable but let's have situation like atul is not dead he is saying these whether people really care about the issues or how fake cases plays a major role literally zero
This is the time we need to talk about issues which is related to this case nobody is gonna hear how alimony affect the person mentally and physically as well in my perspective i don't want to loss another atul subash in this short attention span generation which is needed to addressed immediately I still believe justice delayed is justice denied
Great video and clarity of thoughts📈
Your way of speaking is very mature for your age
wow manichow is putting resistance video 😁😁😁
Yes, her statements are correct....
I personally think that I feel safe in TN girls may be organised by DMK PR team….working behind to deviate the case…
2:34 enakum apdithan thonuthu😢😢 enna nadanthalum yarum ethum velila solla kudathu..sonna avunga name avunga face ellam velila vanthurumnu payanthu solla kudathunu FIR leak panna mari feel aguthu😢
8:27 pointuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!🫡🔥🔥🔥
So good to guve voice out like this. Pls keep it up..💙
Great video by the way… and this did not happen only in the mentioned two scenarios i saw the same thing happening during the kolkata case as well… the whole incident was haunting and as a citizen i felt helpless for the victim clueless what can be done more to prevent such things happening in India … but started seeing posts in social media saying we need laws to refrain boys from coming outside after 10pm in night and covering their eyes should be brought to bring in women safety .. this totally drifted the whole agitation towards another debate and i felt the victim was again left helpless
Thnx for uploading video akka 🤧