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Pan Am Flight Attendants - The Lost Tape
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2015
- A group of Pan Am flight attendants right after they arrive in Honolulu, Hawaii and during their flight briefing before returning to Los Angeles, California. It looks like they are all having a fun time!
Flight attendants include Charlie, Kathy, Althea, Tony, Dana, Sue, Teresa and others. Hiram is filming.
Wow, I miss my job so much, even after almost 30 years... Wearing the uniform, flying , the camaraderie, everything. Ten great years of my life, so grateful to have had that.
Were you a Pan Am girl?
@@giselo66 yes
I hear you, I’m ex BA 🇬🇧 left the job in 2015 after getting married and regret that decision every day, the job, travelling, the 747, and most of all the camaraderie. Flight attendants are a certain breed of fantastic human beings. But we have the memories. Pan Am was iconic in the industry ❤
I truly miss this era of flying. Flight crews took pride in their appearance and company. Passengers, more often than not, were friendly and acted like civil human beings. Today, the inflight experience is akin more to riding on a bus with wings, and I don't mean an Airbus either. Standards are down all across the board, and that is such a shame because I truly love commercial aviation, but it has changed so much, and not for the better, in my humble opinion. Sorry for the rant, but I thank you very very much for posting this!!
Flying was so much more civilized back in those days. Flying Hawaiian was close to it, two meal services, happy flight crews all around. Wish the 747's were still around!
The good ole' days (coming from a [retired] AA-INT'L F/A Class of 1988), yet miss my friends, great laughs, and amazing stories we shared ! ! ! !
Great days & fond memories, so nice to see a crew enjoying themselves & I have to add looking so smart & professional in the way they dressed & looked in their uniforms, so very different from the way cabin crew look today. Pan AM uniform standards were exceptionally high & maintained, in all my years of flying with Pan Am, I never saw a crumpled or dirty uniform like we see today. Thank you for bringing back such fond memories, I hope all everyone in this video is well & enjoying life to the full.
I absolutely agree that standards have dropped significantly since the 80s and 90s. I recently flew with another legacy American carrier and was sad to see untidy crew all over the aircraft. Including long hair untied during service. So different now!
Thanks for the upload!!!! First, I miss the days of flying 747s to Honolulu. Secondly, via United Airlines met former Pan Am flight attendants working for United and its acquired Asia flights after the pac rim division was sold to United. The European division was sold to Delta Airlines. Pan Am was an American legacy. It was sad to see the airline go. Pan Am taught this once kid about the world in collecting timetables.
Nice comment Craig! I was with United in the mid-1980's and well recall our picking up Pan Am's lucrative Asian routes. Sadly, Pan Am was selling off the rights (to fly) their most profitable routes in order to down-size schedules, generate needed cash, and ultimately survive in the then fairly new "unregulated" airline industry. I think the horrific bombing of the Pam Am 747 over Lockerbie, Scotland (in late 1988) pushed the company over the brink. The travelling public was made fearful of flying and especially avoided Pan Am - though, of course, it could have happened to any world carrier. Though PAA would operate another three years, it would bleed hundreds of millions more in losses, until its last flight in late 1991. A sad day for the entire airline industry.
@@rivaridge7211 The Lockerbie bombing was decisive in dooming not only one flight but the whole airline. It's clear that PAA wasn't chosen by chance. The airline did convey a glorious imagery of the best of the USA across the world, way beyond the circles of aviation enthusiasts and beyond political affiliations. It was the image of glamour and ease that everyone aspired to. It could only exist with that image.
Nice video, looks like a great crew . I was just in HNL yesterday and there was some historical references to Pan Am in the terminal. So much history. A true shame they are gone.
Don't know how I missed seeing this before by sure am glad it popped up. Brought back some amazing memories. I loved the 747!
There will never be a time like this again.
Pan Am was the best till 1980-'90!! Everywhere in the World with his beautiful B747 "Clippers of the Sky". After, the debacle, equal to Alitalia, of which I've been proudly part for thirty Years first as Flight Engineer and then as long range Chief Purser flying over B747, DC-10, MD-11,B767 and finally B777.It was a beautiful dream shared with all the crews of the other Companies: different uniforms but the same pride in having shared a unique and unrepeatable work and life experience! Today it's non longer like this and we were lucky with our beautiful memories that still keep us company! We at Alitalia meet again two times a year and relive the same emotions every time!...With a few more wrinkles... but the same enthusiasm! Francesco Pittaluga from Genoa, Italy, now age 64 and actually writer and actor, in Alitalia from 1979 to 2009. God bless You All! 😊
What a great video! Blast from the past! Wanted that job back then, those were the glory days
PanAm was THE airline to go with. It didn't deserve the fate that eventually befell it.
Those were truly the best of times! - traveling the world with Pan Am!
Great video! Everyone looks so happy, which means passengers will be happy. PA and NW were the best!
Hahahaha!!!! So cute...Thank you for sharing!!! Yes, I started flying with United Airlines in 1999. And my flight crews always had a person who would have a video of the crew members!!! So nice!!! Thank you for sharing this...
So grateful/thankful for an amazing experience on every single flight. I feel Pan Am was the actual begging of my life which prepared me for every situation in life including Dixie Air.
This is a wonderful video - I love the candid discussion about who will be working where on the plane. Everybody is mellow and enjoying their job, which is truly great to see. Real people doing their part, all part of a great team. I would love to know where any of these people are today or where they ended up...I know a lot happens in three decades.
'Dances With Wolves' was the movie, that probably took most of the flight back to LA!
I flew Pan Am twice in my life...once from LAX to IAD(?) to PHL back in 1978 and then on a B747 from LHR-JFK in late April 1984. The earlier flight was my only ever flights on a B707, I believe, and my flight out of Heathrow happened to be on N747PA operating as PA103. This was not the same aircraft that operated the ill-fated PA103 in 1988. [N747PA Clipper Juan Trippe was the first B747 to operate a commercial flight and probably should have been saved or put in a museum, but sadly she bounced around the different airlines and was eventually scrapped in South Korea. Sad..] The movie playing on my 1984 flight was "Octopussy!' I remember the screen being pulled down and the projector being setup just a couple of rows in front of me...besides the movie, the flight seemed interminable to my 11-year old self! It's funny what you remember.
To think, next year will mark three decades since Pan Am folded...a whole generation of Americans don't remember or never even saw a Pan Am, plane. For others their only context might be on 'Catch Me if You Can.' To those old enough to have flown on, worked for or otherwise remember, Pan Am deserved a better legacy than to just be wound down in December 1991. They were truly pioneers, and along with TWA - itself gone 20 years in 2021 - these were THE international airlines representing the United States around the globe for many decades.
Well, I'm the guy eating pizza non-stop and I'm doing well, thank you for asking!
@@RancherUSAFLA hats off to you!!!
Enjoyable to see it all behind the scenes. Thank you for sharing
Those were the glory days when flying was awesome. Crews were upbeat and happy. Thanks for a nice video!
+K L Indeed it was the best of times for sure!
LOL flying Pan Am was far from awesome.
+Semsem Eini It was good to those who were of the status fortunate enough to afford the luxury of real First Class service.
Flying Pan Am during the days when it was spiraling into bankruptcy and oblivion was, indeed, far from awesome. So, what's your point? The airline that was "top drawer" for 50 years deserves some respect...even from yahoos like you.
Those golden days....smiling faces and humanity..missing in todays generation
I flew for Qantas from 1988 to 1997 and this video takes me back to those days! Briefings were always quite humorous and the crew were always fun! Thanks for sharing this video and bringing back the memories :-) Oh and smoking... we all smoked back then! hehe
Flew Qantas 1986 and it was great.
Flying for me stopped being fun when smoking was progressively banned during the 1990's. At that point the atmosphere seemed to become more tense, less relaxed.
The second problem was 9/11. Prior to this airlines controlled their passengers by being nice to them. Post 9/11 airlines changed and adopted a shut up or we will call security or handcuff you attitude.
@@Ben-xe8ps I moved onto air new zealand after QF. I lasted another 15 years but the layovers became shorter, the crew numbers onboard went down to minimum requirement and the flights got longer and they squeezed more seats onto the aircraft! All the fun had been squeezed out of it so I left. I miss those earlier days of flying.
@@qjb75 I am from UK. First time I flew QF was in April 1978 in Y SYD-SFO on a Boeing 747-200. A long time ago but a favourable recollection. The flight was routed MEL-SYD-HNL-SFO-YVR. This was in pre-business class two-class FY configuration days. Seating in Y was still 9 abreast 3 X 4 X 2 in those days with 34 inch pitch so nice and comfortable. I also remember the drinking water dispensers and paper cups next to the lavatories too for some reason. No requirement to clear US immigration nonsense for transit passengers to YVR in those days.
Made some more flights with them in 1982 in F on QF1/2 on Boeing 747-200's when the routing was LHR-BAH-SIN-SYD-MEL. No complaints but I don't recall it as being the best F class experience as far as meals were concerned. For example on QF1 the meal ex SYD was lacking, the starter was just Rock Oysters in their shells and I don't recall any soup. Also there was no full meal service ex SIN and we were served a light supper of Caviar and Satay. Sounds delicious and it was ... but when the last full meal was after take off from SYD you really need/expect something a bit more substantial.
Also took QF1 BAH-LHR in F once. At that time the left hand side of the cabin (Zone A in the nose) was smoking, the right hand side was non-smoking. A party of all female veiled Bahraini Royals was travelling. Pre-reserved seats were cancelled for normal pax and the all female Royal party were seated in the 4 rows on the left hand side of the aircraft. Obviously none of these veiled women smoked during the flight despite taking the entire smoking section for themselves. Initially the cabin crew were not particularly sympathetic unfortunately to those of us who had been moved from our pre-reserved smoking seats to the right hand seats, but eventually they relented and allowed us to smoke.
Never visited NZ or travelled with TE/NZ unfortunately although if I remember correctly Air New Zealand is the only airline on which Queen Elizabeth II has travelled as a passenger on a normal scheduled flight.
@@Ben-xe8ps I thoroughly enjoyed reading your awesome comment it actually took me back to the first time I operated QF1/2 on the 747 300 EUD in 1989 and I was positioned at Door 5 Right (junior crew always got shoved down the back) also known as the Kangaroo route via SIN and BAH. I didnt really like being down the back because of all the smokers in the back few rows. Those were the days! Hehe We also had the 747 200s of course, the 747SP and the 400 was delivered in 1989. Also had 767s which were lovely aircraft to operate on.
I also remember the water dispensers on the 747s and on the QF 767s!
The BAH-LHR sector always had the most interesting passengers onboard and I learnt so much about the middle east and the culture just from chatting to passengers!
I remember chatting to crew that had flown since the 60s and how much aviation had changed including shorter layovers etc which has become even shorter today. But they often reminisced about the good ole days hehe
Air New Zealand was a smaller airline obviously and I started flying domestically for them on the 737 200 before moving to long haul 2 years later in 2000. But because it was smaller there was a strong family feel and you got to work with the same crew quite a lot which was what I enjoyed the most!
This is so Pan Am it’s not even funny! 😁 Clipper 81 to HNL and Clipper 82 back to LAX. Oh and the Ala Moana Hotel. Life was good in 1990. For a while anyway. @FlyPanAm still the best! Great video. Thanks for posting it!
Life was anything but good for Pan Am, it had sold its profitable pacific routes, it's iconic building in NYC, its prestigious coveted London route to Continental Airlines, the InterContinental hotel chain and by 1990 the company was on life support
Pan Am sold its coveted LHR routes to United, not Continental.
I very much MISS MY PAN AMERICAN FLIGHT ATTENDANT FAMILY....
Beautiful Hiram. Thank you!
I was a Flight Service Manager (FSM) at TWA and flew out of JFK to Europe and all assignments for the 747 were made on the ground, by seniority and could be traded by individuals once on the plane.
BTW liked the video.
This SO reminds me of our America West 747 flights to HNL...what great memories!! Thanks for sharing. I had a Pan Am friend, Patrick (can't remember last name) that BEGGED me to apply to Pan Am...I said "if anything happens though, Patrick, I"ll be the FIRST one to go!". I stayed for 23 years, didn't leave by 'my' choice, but still got retirement benefits that are now with AA (after USAirways, then AA). I'll always love my flying days and miss them!!!! xxx
Seeing them without mobile phones is such a relief
Good old days of aviation ✈️😢
OMG those shuttles! LOL! And Liberty House! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Man I feel old
Ala Moana Hotel…..😎
@@detlefb.8371 Remember when it was AA’s hotel?
@@locoHAWAIIANkane
I sure do! Wasn’t my favorite location, but I got accustomed to it.
I will never forget Pam am awesome people and airplanes
The pilot on the video Duke was a friend of mine in Florida great guy if anyone knows where he is today please let me know..PanAm was the greatest..
I totally agree! Pan Am the best!
One of the FLT Attendants in this video not mentioned was a close friend of mine, Victor Davila, who unfortunately passed away during the AIDS epidemic. He was a gem of a human being and I still miss him as well as my five years flying for Pan Am out of JFK. Rest in peace Victor!
I worked for pan am from 1960 until the end Politics played a part too Atlanta to London was awarded to delta even though the cab awarded to pan am jimmy carter is from Georgia you do the math!
Jimmy Carter also signed the "Airline Deregulation Act'" , which set the stage for all the mergers and the sorry state of the industry. Should have stayed on the peanut farm that he ran because he messed the beloved airline industry up !!😢
He was also responsible for signing the 'Airline Deregulation Act", which set in motion merger-mania and the sorry state of our industry today. He is to blame for a lot of the mess that we see today.😮
But thank you for this uplifting little video...when airline staff last had a sense of humour!
People used to have a sense of humor. Now miserable, sensitive, backstabbing, immature brain dead MORONS..across all age groups.
Don‘t forget the Clipper! Great video, love it.
now imagine after one more year everything was history
Or just a couple of months... there's no way to know since the weather in Hawaii doesn't give away what season that was.
Are any of those FA's still working on an airline?
Very amusing crew.
However flying Pan Am was no fun. But their frequent flyer program was fantastic.
Well, as for me, Wardair was the best airline from a passenger's perspective. Nothing like them ever since.
Great video!...really enjoyed it.
Talofa and aloha to all my Pan Am flight attendant members wherever you are. From Mae Sapolu Brown--Windsor of SAMOA and Hawaii
Lovely crew ❤️
Looks like they loved what they did!!!
These employees were either in denial or trying to make the best out of very bad circumstances
What a fun crew!
I heard someone say around 5:20 that the load for the flight was 14/21/206=241 passengers.
Yup, before the hi-density 747's and 777's of today!
At those bookings. No wonder they went under. Those older 747s loved fuel! Not cutting PanAm down by any means. Those were the end of the great days of flying.
wow, such a charismatic crew
All of the originals were the greatest. I have many friends I worked with, (A&P mechanics) after they were sold/bankrupted/merged. Some that come to mind:
Pan Am
Eastern
TWA
Northwest
National
PSA
Braniff
Western
Piedmont
North Central
Republic
US Air
and the list goes on and on………….
It’s a shame the company never was managed very well, which eventually and inevitably led to it’s demise😥!
In your face United Airlines. Pam Am the best.
I totally agree! Pan Am the BEST!
nice vid
Everyone smile and say DELTA!!
+apiece ofdirt DELTA!!! :)
Yeah.. After its years as a crop-duster carrier.
Better to be part of Delta than that United / Continental bullshit
apiece ofdirt Damn Delta was the only airline that REFUSED to carry people suffering with HIV and AIDS.
I for one will NEVER forget how many dying desperate people rushing to go home to their loved oned were refused by Delta. I will NEVER EVER give them one cent of my money. I suggest you do the same!
What if Delta rebranded as Pan Am?
The BEST YEARS Of My Life, 35 yrs. Of Flying, Would Have Held On A Bit More If I Didn't Get Hurt, Oh Well!!
In terms of in-flight service I was never particularly impressed by Pan-Am. Just like today, in the past the Far Eastern carriers such as CX or SQ offered the best in-flight service with the European carriers in the middle at the US carriers at the bottom, just above the Eastern Bloc communist airlines. I found the PA cabin service to be very basic on a like for like comparison with other airlines.
It's refreshing to read adverse opinions, thank you for that. I personally wasn't there when PA was still flying, but as a former cabin crew member for a Far Eastern airline, I can tell you that messy behavior wouldn't have been allowed at all, at anytime wearing the uniform, and even in the hotel because you can be seen by a customer, unknowingly. I was actually shocked to see how disorderly the crew behaved and even the way they did the pre-flight briefing on board, because I always believed flight attendants were classier in the past... and well, no, not any longer! My personal observation is that, when the employees have a good time, the customers suffer and vice-versa. That's why you don't get this in Asian airlines. The crew work hard, and they/we're not a merry bunch enjoying life and getting paid to do so. We are actually taught from the beginning to acknowledge the paying customer deserves to come first which is imho just common sense. From my experienced perspective, all Western airlines are very permissive with their employees, but maybe Europeans are more sensitive to image than Americans are. Now, I'm not saying it's better to be hard on employees, but I can certainly see who of the customers or the employees were in the most favorable position, according to that video...
@@Bellasie1 Self hatred of culture, breading like mold due to fake news mainstream media propaganda of the authoritarian globalized monopoly elite. Soon you’re all be under authoritarian culture, destroying the relaxed and great lifestyle you completely took for granted. Edit just saw your profile. Asian culture? No thanks!
those are some classy ties. Where can I get one?!
some 20 years after that i was at the Honolulu airport and i don’t recall seeing those guys and gals there, hmm, i guess i must have been at a different part of the airport; either that or they had left by then; hmmm
Pan Am sold the Pacific Division to United in 1985. Went out of business in 1991.
I was employed by Pan Am in my youth. My first job out of college. Great company but it was mismanaged. Boeing 747 were great planes but big money looser. I can’t make money if planes fly empty. Lockerbie bombing was one of the factor Pan Am went out of business. People were scared to fly Pan Am after they lost a plane in Lockerbie bombing. It is really unfortunate.
Many airlines flew nearly empty planes to their destinations back in the day. National Airlines, Pan AM, Taca, etc all did this. This was most prevalent on the late afternoon and night flights. Today, that model does not exist. Planes have to fly full today to make a profit.
Thought PAN AM corporation was closed more than 22 years ago after facing bankruptcy before they found the last tape on 2015? Does this mean somebody found a tape after missing for over 15 years?
I was a flight attendant for Pan Am and I actually was the one that made the tape. I moved once or twice through the years and one day I remembered making the tape and for a long time I could not find it until I finally did find It about the time that I published the video on this channel.
I think the dates shown are incorrect. Pan Am sold their pacific operations to United in 1985 so this has to be prior to that date.
HNL stayed until close to the end. They're wearing the 1989 uniform update.
When was this taped?
Late 80’s
Outta body experiences and practices.
Boy, that was not a classic Pan Am crew. They were the "leftovers" from multiple mergers. By 1990, the REAL Pan Am was long gone. This crew looks like and acts more like Delta.
Were you former Pan Am? I am curious if you knew my mother - Genarina "Ginny" Kennan (based out of: JFK, then SFO until Pacific routes were sold to UA, then back to JFK. She worked a lot with Astrid Meek). Let me know please. Thanks.
NextUp Pan am merged with delta.
Mason Mosolowski Delta bought the Atlantic division from Pan Am. That included routes, airplanes, and pilots and other personnel that were part of ETOPS operation.
I was wondering why they seemed so different from other videos I've seen about Pan Am. Of course most of what I've seen was how Pan Am started, how they picked the stewardesses, the elite uniforms and demeanor. Seeing this video I thought requirements probably changed over the years, because some of the employees seem older and not as thin as they required in the past. I never got to fly as a customer on Pan Am, wish I could have experienced the early glory of it. In my younger years I did fly on Alaska Airlines and Western airlines, back when they still served meals.
Oh, that's interesting. Age requirements have probably been done away with by now. Many years ago I applied to work at an airline right out of high school, but was told you had to be 21 years old to work as a stewardess. I remember they tested how you walked and carried yourself, and had weight requirements. Then I moved to Anchorage and applied to work with Alaska Airlines. By the time they called me for an interview I was expecting my first child so I turned it down. Surprisingly, they called me back a year later to see if I'd be interested in a job, but I was then expecting my second child. I remember there were age limits enforced by airlines back then. A stewardess could only work up to whatever age an airline chose.
Go ahead and lose the tape (again).
Bring back Pan Am!
Most still alive reason South West rehired new employees. Ex pan am employees.
And practice only thing your forgetting santa wonder why you have problems at work.
do any one of you know anything about neerja bhanot?? Im sure not
Of course. The Indian foreign national flight attendant who was shot and killed during the Karachi incident.
Why wouldn't we? What's your point?
Cause of beliefs in elves.
At the airline I worked for I was In Flight Manager for 25 years until AA took us over...anyway.....assignments for beverage, meals, first, business and main were made out by me and other senior managers and that's the way it was. There was no whinning or complaints. Or crew got wrote up !!!! I'm sorry but what a bunch of whiney ass f/a's!!!! NO I DON"T WANT.... NO I DONT WANT BEV CART....Sad.......our juniors got Galley and never not once did I hear any complaints from my crew!! we all pitched in...I have to say tho... flying back in those days in the 70's to the 90's was good...now it sucks!! I don't miss flying one bit now. I now work as an RN.
+Rob Martin TWA 74-01, American Airlines 01-2011. international, French language LOD, bases w/ TW ORD, STL, LAX....AA ORD, STL, FINAL DFW.
Good for you Rob Martin. You write them up ... I'll bet you were very popular! At Pan Am we had consideration for one another and no one was ever "stuck" in the galley. Some people were terrified of the main galley on the 747, and some like myself would have preferred to fly it every trip but we considered ourselves fair. By the way, I'm the guy eating the pizza in the video and as you can see our Purser's (equivalent I'm Guessing to your In-Flight Managers) did not lead with fear and intimidation. I was a Purser from the late 70's and a Flight Attendant from 1988 until Pan Am went out of business.
Rob, you would NEVER have been hired by PAA...
You're cute
Thanks hon....
Buh-bye.
Uggg….trainwreck!
Trainwreck? They enjoyed their jobs and had a blast. Many great memories at PanAm. Young crews today will never know.
This video kinda explains why the airline went bust.
Really? In what way, Gomer?
is this a mukbang
back then when flight attendands were hot. righ now they are angry oldwomans. only asian lines have young and polite womans on their staffs
So disorganised no wonder they went bust
No UKboy, the lax security by British airport officials which contributed to the Lockerbie incident played a major role in the demise of Pan Am. Don't get it twisted bloke....
Alfred Newman dinner
The American way - fun loving, humorous and joyful - is no doubt alien to you. Shame.
@@nextup6074 Well said. There are people out there that are envious of those that enjoy what they do.