My Father lived in Angola in 1975 and told me many incredible stories about what he went through and witnessed while there. He was originally from the Cabo Verde Islands. 💯💪🏽
Nevertheless, Peter Bota lost the war in Angola, lost Namibia on his way back to his country; ‘n later lost his identity’n his country to 0ne of his prisoner, Mr. Nelson Mandela!
@@moisesfuentes2090 The reason the South Africans lost was due to a WEAK America and an internal cancer called F.W.deKlerk. Ask yourself, what do they do with people who commit treason in your Country? Don't they execute them? Why wasn't Mr.Mandela executed then. The Whites in South Africa were shafted.
The same pattern, south Africa was a allied of America, and then thrown under the bus, like Vietnam, Afghanistan and every where Yankee democracy failed
& the barbudos were sent to Angola across the Atlantic with men & heavy military hardware allegedly under their own power (barbudos boss claimed so, denying any soviet initial help) but that was to defeat the FNLA in the North & then guarding the uttermost northern exclave of oil-bloated Cabinda. For Rockefeller's Standard Oil. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They played mercenaries in Ethiopia too, for the ''post-revolution comrades'' of the Mengistu red mob who were quicker in the draw than their ill-fated non-red com-rats of the 1974''revolution'', their accomplices in the murder of Emperor Haile Selassie. The barbudos mercenaries also with soviet help crushed the Eritrean indepen-dance front until then soviet-supported, & the until then soviet-supported Somali army in their Ogaden war against the Mengistu regime in 1977. The show-off-prone barbudos even played airborne against the Eritreans in the fight to secure the railway to Djibouti. But the Mengistu red thugs were finding out they were biting too much more than their barbudos teeth could chew. So in 1980, adipose-leonid told the psychopath Mengistu that he'd be on his own. The rest is bloody history. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Back to Angola, in a 1987 outburst, Savimbi complained by revealing the hunchback's $ecret of Cabinda & sealed his fate with Standard Oil who didn't appreciate. Don't forget that under Reagan, the $$$$tate dept was in the hands of the George Schulz Californian bunch who were nutting but leftists. & oh, the red mpla leader Agnostino Neto was taken care rather early, in 1979 by the soviet surgeons who forgot some surgeon knife in his stomach after a surgical operation on him performed in Moscow.
Look what MPLa has made of one of the richest countries in Africa (Diamonds, Uranium, oil, minerals, etc). They looted the country for themselves, in a tribal confict, MPLA vs Angolans!
MPLA was not the biggest force, they were the ones who had most support from USSR. What has given them importance, is that they were the forces present in the capital region (Kimbundo), and held to it until now. All the country's ressources made the 'president's' family ultra rich, they don't care about Angolans. Also Chipenda was assassinated during what was supposed to be a peace agreement, (in Zaire, If I remember correctly). And what were Cubans doing in Angola? Carrying diamonds home!
*Chipenda from FNLA, which later joined UNITA. So MPLA hold power with the help of Cubans, against the majority of Angolans, ence the civil war, not 'decolonization'. Portuguese were left there by the portuguese administration , who fled, and left everyone to their own. We were 'lucky', because of my mothers actions and stance, we were protected by surrounding tribes, near Cuima (Huambo)!
@@erivanel The Jacob Zuma, son and friends in South Africa Stalingrad'ed all legal actions against them and the Gupta's fled with their billions and whitey gets blamed for everything as usual.
@@wrndlabs You did not reach the CIA objectives to capture Luanda! Did you? Your advancement was repelled until the negotiations that saw your withdrawal from Angola, later give away Namibia and Majority rule in SA. You were against the wall
With which wisdom are you speaking like that given the lessons from Vietnam and now Syria and Afghanistan. Be careful as supremacy is a dream unless it's a state with below 5 million people, and not resourceful.
Shell oil asked the Americans for help to protect their oil refineries in Luanda and because the owners of Shell, Holland, supported the ANC terrorist movement, they could not ask the South African government for help. The Americans did not have the balls for another war like Vietnam. From the early 70's South African government used military conscription and forced every white male school leaver, to go fight American's dirty oil war. If you refused to fight you were sent to jail for the same period as which you were expected to serve in military. Did you hear him say it was a lot easier if the young guy's girlfriend of mother asked him to go to war. What bullshit! You were threatened with two years in jail if you did not go. No matter what anyone tells you, the Cubans and Russians got their backsides kicked all the time. On a last note...when we were on the outskirts of Luanda, barely 5 miles out, the word came from Army HQ for us to fall back and retreat back to SA. Later we heard the Americans changed their mind. Now this war is blamed on the young white soldier from South Africa who had no say or option but to fight or go to jail. We were all brainwashed that we are fighting the red onslaught of communism. Maybe true but today I have more genuine and compassionate Russian friends than the United States of zombies with their attitude of entitlement.
Chris, let's be honest. If we did not fight that war, the ANC would have taken over SA long before 94, and that would have turned us into another Cuba... I am not talking about the initial move to take Luanda, but the war in general. There was a time a couple of years ago that I myself had a big distaste for that war, today I thank every sacrifice that was made, although it just bought us some time as SA will eventually turn into just another failed state.
LOL, I like your attitude. I was conscripted during the 60s, but didn't regard it as anything more than conscription similar to that in Britain and the USA - although I came to regard the U.S. conscription a sloppy bad joke with rich boys not turning up and the poorer guys doing the service. Good to see you not backing off about the Russians and Cubans getting hammered. You were fighting what could have been a 'red onslaught', but also disgustingly used for special interests. Among too many Americans there is a nauseating attitude of entitlement, but it seems to me that today this affects most of the West.
@FC6-3.7 Yeah... Angola became the model of African nationhood.. much like Zimbabwe and the other Soviet backed states that collapsed into ruin. All praise the Soviet Union!
@@TheSteveRobinson why do you blame the soviet union? its gone since 30 years, so is their support to the 3rd world. Africans just cant live on their own
@@captainfreedom3649 I agree completely with your last statement. But, in my opinion, Angola would have been a lot better off in the late 70's - 80's, probably even today if the Communists had been defeated back in 1976.
...fear? Australia is on the Slide into Hell..amigo. . ...see ..the Jamestown Foundation..terror intell...examine.. Islamist terror ops. ''close to me''....hahahahaha....etc Dan Roley. *Rwanda Private Security Forces. South Africa Operations. 2019. .......fear?...hahahahaha...etc
I am proud of all the resistance movements that fought colonialism and its proxies in the continent. Our fighters were poorly trained, uneducated of modern warfare. They perished in numbers as a result but their spirits were not broken. Thanks to USSR, China, Cuba and other friends that helped Africans fight injustice of colonialism and its proxies. My biggest worry now is corrupt leadership, former freedom fighter rewarding themselves as an entitlement. Some want to rule for ever, some are puppets of western ideals - This are hurdles Africans must overcome. We need one last revolution against the corrupt, dictators and puppets of the West or whoever threatens our sovereignty as Africans.
@@adrianshephard378 Good riddance our oppressors are gone. The thriving had no impact on a simple black man who was still being denied his dignity and rights. What is a thriving economy when you do not have rights. Allow us some space to suffer in our dignity - We are busy learning from our mistakes.
@@boitumelotshwenyego6922 it seems to me it takes you a hell of a lot of time to learn ,all these years gone by and you still haven't learn anything ,Wow I wish you good luck with that
Lucio Lara (6:33) you are very confused. South Africa was fighting several terrorist groups and Cubans and Russians. They were not afraid of the pathetic little MPLA..
Our biggest concern was SWAPO - the MPLA/FAPLA were dealt with on a more conventional basis for the most part (especially in the end with Ops Moduler/Hooper/Packer), where SWAPO was primarily unconventional warfare.
Don't thank Cuba thank America otherwise they would have got theire arse whooped, I know, I was there at the time. We thank them for running and leaving their weapons for us to copy
The pointlessness of this conflict. Portugal has returned. Portugal has created an organization called the “Community of Portuguese Language Countries” for political and economic cooperation. The headquarter is in *Portugal* and one objective is a bank. Angolan resources as collateral for Portuguese money. Your entire war was *pointless*
The joined of military of PLAN fighters of Namibia(SWAPO ),MPLA of Angola and Cuba made them easier to defeat the USA forces and South African military along side Savimbi and FNLA.thanks to the PLAN fighter guerrilla tactics and Cuban weapons .still now America fears Cuban government,the government of Angola and the government of Namibia.
Seriously?? You are joking, right ? Instead they planted bombs and killed many innocent women and children including their own people. In any event this has nothing to do with the ANC who was not involved in the border war - thei 'war' was through cowardly terrorist actions of bombs.
@@jbk138 Eh, what method should they have used? Maybe you do not understand warfare. When you are outgunned and a total underdog, you use effective methods against your enemy. After all what was SA doing in the townships? How Boers are even allowed stay there is more mercy than I would have shown.
@@elzorro7of9 You obviously don't have any clue what transpired back then in SA and the border war and effectively admitted on social media that you condone terrorism. You want to discauss and tell me about warfare ?? -hahahahahahaha -get an eductaion Einstein,
@@jbk138 Dry your eyes man. All war is terror and what 'genius' in command of a untrained and inexperienced fighting force would engage in stand up battles?! The Viet Cong showed what can be done against an imperial aggressor.
10 000 Cubans went home in a box. castro was in trouble when Russia got out of there after military setbacks against the south Africans. it stopped its funding and arms supply to the Cubans under the guise of payment for sugar. Castro was worried at his high death rate of casualtys and made up the concocted story he was victorious but nearly every battle was won by the south Africans. The south Africans didn't want to go into angola in the first place but the arrival of communist forces changed that. swapo never won one engagement and were soundly beaten. inkontwe sizwe had their arses kicked and were hopeless. mandela just made up the story of how castro was so successful in squashing apartheid. this is total lefty nonesence, lies, the south Africa public were at odds with apartheid and just gave the country to the anc. . castros African marxist revolution adventure was a failure. added to that humiliating situation for the cubans they faced only 3000 south African troops wo were totally outnumbered by the marxists. If south Africa had called up its 140 000 strong army the Cubans would have been totally destroyed.Added to this south Africa had most of the world against it as well as sanctions placed on it. The left are master at lying and propaganda and subversion they simply have to lie because they cant tell the TRUTH. The lefty bbc lied ad nauseum in the early 90s, and its gotten even worse lying on a continuous basis( to its own british public who see right through its false subversive lefty agenda )now as the left hate President Trump, and are trying to get rid of him, but failing because the people of America know how the lefty media is fake news and lying continuously for their Marxist liberal agenda. The Marxist videos on utube are a total joke they are Pathetic and amateur full of lies. The Cubans and mpla casualty rate/losses were very high. the left have subversively changed the history and the true facts. the SADF, despite its planes were old and dated, were a superior fighting professional force in the field and were destroying the Cubans. Had the Cubans entered SWA Namibia the SADF would have destroyed them. Today the situation in south africa In 2017 a million people have been murdered in south Africa since apartheid ended in 94. and 3/4s million woman raped, 3 month old babies raped and 4500 innocent white productive farmers gruesomely murdered, ethnically cleansed, by the corrupt innept lefty socialist racist anc government in south Africa. In 2017 the left still pushes its cultural marxist ideology in the west and the liberals have sided with the Marxists . the lefty media lying daily nonstop to achieve this lefty agenda.
Brian Trend and then our own traitorous S.A.government stabbed us in the back just as our arms industry was becoming a power house now the Chinese and others are benefiting from that investment and S.A.sinks into the communist chaos that Angola experienced
It’s great they got Lucio Lara to participate in this documentary. Sadly though he’s in full ideological rhetoric mode thus his otherwise indispensable insight is nullified somewhat. “We were alone, poorly equipped, poorly trained” ...no Lucio we’ve already established that the MPLA had _substantial_ Soviet/Cuban backing by the mid 70s, including receipt of numerous arms shipments and extensive training since the early 60’s! Good grief. A wasted opportunity. Addendum: And Castro’s full of it too! All this ‘we (Cuba) intervened on our own volition, Moscow didn’t know anything about it’ cobblers. Cuba militarily intervened in Angola at the DIRECT BEHEST of Moscow! That’s an established, irrefutable fact not mere speculation.
Calling people full of it is defeating your arguments. Before 1975, they all got good junk of helps from Africa and elsewhere in the world. As a Guinean by birth, my father Before he was arrested and killed by Sekou Toure was very much involved with what we called in French ( les mouvements de lutte de libération) from the neighboring Guinea Bissau to Mozambique. Holden Roberto at one point had Guinean diplomatic passport. The late Lucio Lara and Iko Careira were both teachers at institut polytechnique de Conakry. To make long story short, there were hardly clean hands during Angolan tragedy. MPLA, UNITA and FLNA were all in la lutta together until the spoiled of war divided them. Mais ça c'est une partie de l'histoire qui reste à écrire.
Henry Kissinger eventually admitted in his memoirs that the Cubans intervening in Angola had nothing to do with the Soviet Union. Your addendum of "established, irrefutable fact" is pure anglo american propaganda whether you realise it or not. 17:19 "The congress would've stopped us if we hadn't successfully lied to them." Will you ever learn?
Cuba intervened against the soviets. I had family members in the high part of Minit and FAR. The Cuban government disliked the soviet way of thinking but again they needed equipment. The Russians used to call the Cuban conflictive.
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My Father lived in Angola in 1975 and told me many incredible stories about what he went through and witnessed while there. He was originally from the Cabo Verde Islands. 💯💪🏽
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south Africa was not only the most powerful force in Africa but one of the most powerful in the world and everyone knew it
@Scott Johnson I agree but America has big problems..They are falling apart politically
Nevertheless, Peter Bota lost the war in Angola, lost Namibia on his way back to his country; ‘n later lost his identity’n his country to 0ne of his prisoner, Mr. Nelson Mandela!
@@moisesfuentes2090 The reason the South Africans lost was due to a WEAK America and an internal cancer called F.W.deKlerk. Ask yourself, what do they do with people who commit treason in your Country? Don't they execute them? Why wasn't Mr.Mandela executed then. The Whites in South Africa were shafted.
This is incorrect. The world knew that SA was a house of cards.
@@moisesfuentes2090 Study the history before you make a fool out of yourself again
You'll notice that Kissinger is in EVERY dirty affair!
Ek geniet hierdie video's v jou!
The same pattern, south Africa was a allied of America, and then thrown under the bus, like Vietnam, Afghanistan and every where Yankee democracy failed
Tecno Spark6. We never got support from America we fought this war for America with no support from them or the world
Remember the oil crisis in the seventies? Angola has had large oilfields for a long time.
& the barbudos were sent to Angola across the Atlantic with men & heavy military hardware allegedly under their own power
(barbudos boss claimed so, denying any soviet initial help)
but that was to defeat the FNLA in the North & then guarding the uttermost northern exclave of oil-bloated Cabinda.
For Rockefeller's Standard Oil. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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They played mercenaries in Ethiopia too, for the ''post-revolution comrades'' of the Mengistu red mob who were quicker in the draw than their ill-fated non-red com-rats of the 1974''revolution'', their accomplices in the murder of Emperor Haile Selassie.
The barbudos mercenaries also with soviet help crushed the Eritrean indepen-dance front until then soviet-supported,
& the until then soviet-supported Somali army in their Ogaden war against the Mengistu regime in 1977.
The show-off-prone barbudos even played airborne against the Eritreans in the fight to secure the railway to Djibouti.
But the Mengistu red thugs were finding out they were biting too much more than their barbudos teeth could chew.
So in 1980, adipose-leonid told the psychopath Mengistu that he'd be on his own.
The rest is bloody history.
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Back to Angola, in a 1987 outburst, Savimbi complained by revealing the hunchback's $ecret of Cabinda & sealed his fate
with Standard Oil who didn't appreciate.
Don't forget that under Reagan, the $$$$tate dept was in the hands of the George Schulz Californian bunch who were nutting but leftists.
& oh, the red mpla leader Agnostino Neto was taken care rather early, in 1979 by the soviet surgeons who forgot some surgeon knife in his stomach after a surgical operation on him performed in Moscow.
Look what MPLa has made of one of the richest countries in Africa (Diamonds, Uranium, oil, minerals, etc).
They looted the country for themselves, in a tribal confict, MPLA vs Angolans!
god bless 32
MPLA was not the biggest force, they were the ones who had most support from USSR. What has given them importance, is that they were the forces present in the capital region (Kimbundo), and held to it until now. All the country's ressources made the 'president's' family ultra rich, they don't care about Angolans.
Also Chipenda was assassinated during what was supposed to be a peace agreement, (in Zaire, If I remember correctly). And what were Cubans doing in Angola? Carrying diamonds home!
*Chipenda from FNLA, which later joined UNITA. So MPLA hold power with the help of Cubans, against the majority of Angolans, ence the civil war, not 'decolonization'. Portuguese were left there by the portuguese administration , who fled, and left everyone to their own.
We were 'lucky', because of my mothers actions and stance, we were protected by surrounding tribes, near Cuima (Huambo)!
The whole Angola Civil War was about $$$$$$$
stupid s.o.b.
you arent confused..you are Too Stupid to be confused.
Yes whoever managed to win woulf get angola's oils
@@erivanel The dos Santos family is now the richest in Africa
@@drttgb4955 The daughter is on trial, hope the father goes through the same
@@erivanel The Jacob Zuma, son and friends in South Africa Stalingrad'ed all legal actions against them and the Gupta's fled with their billions and whitey gets blamed for everything as usual.
I found the dude from cod1 that says Death to the MPLA
Is Brian Cox narrating??
Allá estuve de 1982-1984-lubango-huila
Si sois Cubano, gracias por tu lucha, gracias pueblo do Cuba, pueblo hermano, si no eres de Cuba mucho salutacion
Gracias, és lo que puedo decir de todo mi corazón...fue un sacrifício icomparable...que Diós te guarde e te bendiga.
10:10 sounds familiar ?
You'll ear very different stories , according to which side you ask!
Levaram TUNGO!!!
Africans will remember Cubans long time for their heroic moral
Cubans Kick sudafricans badly
@@kingdelpollo1567 we are still living lekker here in Africa, I don't see Cubans around. Not so sure we got kicked ;-)
@@wrndlabs You did not reach the CIA objectives to capture Luanda! Did you? Your advancement was repelled until the negotiations that saw your withdrawal from Angola, later give away Namibia and Majority rule in SA. You were against the wall
Based
@@boitumelotshwenyego6922 look how successful the economy in Zimbabwe is after majority rule, everyone is a billionaire!
South Africa afraid of the MPLA, my hairy butt, SADF would have wiped the floor with MPLA, if they were given their head!
If you say?
You are joking,why has Americans failed to clean Taliban in Afghanistan???????
The only good South African fascist is a dead one
With which wisdom are you speaking like that given the lessons from Vietnam and now Syria and Afghanistan.
Be careful as supremacy is a dream unless it's a state with below 5 million people, and not resourceful.
I blame the Portuguese. They pulled out of Angola and Mozambique overnight ,leaving the country in chaos.
@Ian Hall.... at that time Portugal was run by a commo/socialist government
@@Cyclops0807 [♡] Portugal was hardly a 'Jew' - but if you look at all the Colonials - you cannot apply current standards to those times.
well blame the americans for supporting the rebel groups in Angola against the Portuguese
were you there?
We left because so we were sold
Shell oil asked the Americans for help to protect their oil refineries in Luanda and because the owners of Shell, Holland, supported the ANC terrorist movement, they could not ask the South African government for help. The Americans did not have the balls for another war like Vietnam. From the early 70's South African government used military conscription and forced every white male school leaver, to go fight American's dirty oil war. If you refused to fight you were sent to jail for the same period as which you were expected to serve in military. Did you hear him say it was a lot easier if the young guy's girlfriend of mother asked him to go to war. What bullshit! You were threatened with two years in jail if you did not go. No matter what anyone tells you, the Cubans and Russians got their backsides kicked all the time. On a last note...when we were on the outskirts of Luanda, barely 5 miles out, the word came from Army HQ for us to fall back and retreat back to SA. Later we heard the Americans changed their mind. Now this war is blamed on the young white soldier from South Africa who had no say or option but to fight or go to jail. We were all brainwashed that we are fighting the red onslaught of communism. Maybe true but today I have more genuine and compassionate Russian friends than the United States of zombies with their attitude of entitlement.
Chris, let's be honest. If we did not fight that war, the ANC would have taken over SA long before 94, and that would have turned us into another Cuba...
I am not talking about the initial move to take Luanda, but the war in general.
There was a time a couple of years ago that I myself had a big distaste for that war, today I thank every sacrifice that was made, although it just bought us some time as SA will eventually turn into just another failed state.
LOL, I like your attitude. I was conscripted during the 60s, but didn't regard it as anything more than conscription similar to that in Britain and the USA - although I came to regard the U.S. conscription a sloppy bad joke with rich boys not turning up and the poorer guys doing the service. Good to see you not backing off about the Russians and Cubans getting hammered. You were fighting what could have been a 'red onslaught', but also disgustingly used for special interests. Among too many Americans there is a nauseating attitude of entitlement, but it seems to me that today this affects most of the West.
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Bravado and the love for war here and there says the god of war
Create the problem = Have the solution.
God bless the warriors on both sides!
One Team
Y us not spport the fredam stragil after freedam
Sláinte 🇨🇦💕
No Cuban dead body ever returned to Cuba, all the casquets (?) were full of diamonds for Fidel!
If Russia had not air lifted in the Cubans, UNITA and allies would have taken the country in no time at all.
My father was one of the Main Aces of Angola during the war codename: Scorpion
The biggest enemy was the CIA, otherwise Angola would have been overrun
@FC6-3.7 Yeah... Angola became the model of African nationhood.. much like Zimbabwe and the other Soviet backed states that collapsed into ruin. All praise the Soviet Union!
@@TheSteveRobinson why do you blame the soviet union? its gone since 30 years, so is their support to the 3rd world. Africans just cant live on their own
@@captainfreedom3649 I agree completely with your last statement. But, in my opinion, Angola would have been a lot better off in the late 70's - 80's, probably even today if the Communists had been defeated back in 1976.
Wow Brian. I powerful comments.
Do you really believed the Soviets knew nothing? Who trained the Cubans?
With what did America help South Africa in that war ? We fought that war for America with no support from America or the world We stood alone
Cuba on the right side of history as always
Amen
Bullshit
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Americas fears, yeah right
...fear? Australia is on the Slide into Hell..amigo.
. ...see ..the Jamestown Foundation..terror intell...examine.. Islamist terror ops. ''close to me''....hahahahaha....etc
Dan Roley.
*Rwanda Private Security Forces.
South Africa Operations.
2019.
.......fear?...hahahahaha...etc
We need to track down what happened to South Africas's nuclear weapons!
Viva Cuba 🇩🇰❤️🇨🇺
Say somebody that doesn't know his ass from his head
I am proud of all the resistance movements that fought colonialism and its proxies in the continent. Our fighters were poorly trained, uneducated of modern warfare. They perished in numbers as a result but their spirits were not broken. Thanks to USSR, China, Cuba and other friends that helped Africans fight injustice of colonialism and its proxies. My biggest worry now is corrupt leadership, former freedom fighter rewarding themselves as an entitlement. Some want to rule for ever, some are puppets of western ideals - This are hurdles Africans must overcome. We need one last revolution against the corrupt, dictators and puppets of the West or whoever threatens our sovereignty as Africans.
How does it feel to throw away your thriving state so you can live ina. socialist inflated hell hole where the CCP is now trying to colonize?
@@adrianshephard378 Good riddance our oppressors are gone. The thriving had no impact on a simple black man who was still being denied his dignity and rights. What is a thriving economy when you do not have rights. Allow us some space to suffer in our dignity - We are busy learning from our mistakes.
@@adrianshephard378 what do you means by thriving state!
China initially helped UNITA whereas MPLA was backed by Soviet Union.
@@boitumelotshwenyego6922 it seems to me it takes you a hell of a lot of time to learn ,all these years gone by and you still haven't learn anything ,Wow I wish you good luck with that
Lucio Lara (6:33) you are very confused. South Africa was fighting several terrorist groups and Cubans and Russians. They were not afraid of the pathetic little MPLA..
Our biggest concern was SWAPO - the MPLA/FAPLA were dealt with on a more conventional basis for the most part (especially in the end with Ops Moduler/Hooper/Packer), where SWAPO was primarily unconventional warfare.
tell it like it IS...f! warlord commies.
Gracias CUBA!!
Don't thank Cuba thank America otherwise they would have got theire arse whooped, I know, I was there at the time.
We thank them for running and leaving their weapons for us to copy
@@llewvirtue861 Cuba is in America.
@@llewvirtue861 Cuba got their asses whipped I fought in the Bush war
The pointlessness of this conflict.
Portugal has returned. Portugal has created an organization called the “Community of Portuguese Language Countries” for political and economic cooperation. The headquarter is in *Portugal* and one objective is a bank. Angolan resources as collateral for Portuguese money. Your entire war was *pointless*
says the losers
The joined of military of PLAN fighters of Namibia(SWAPO ),MPLA of Angola and Cuba made them easier to defeat the USA forces and South African military along side Savimbi and FNLA.thanks to the PLAN fighter guerrilla tactics and Cuban weapons .still now America fears Cuban government,the government of Angola and the government of Namibia.
LOL, it is clear your "take on history" comes from commie scum indoctrination.
From which Looney bin did you escape Fidel? Fkn delusional moron.
You sre delusional to think it at all
The only reason African countries, the most resourceful on Earth.... looked for Russia or America was money$$$ go figure!!!
Africa is not a country.
@@SailfishSoundSystem well the countries....
@@SailfishSoundSystem continent my bad....many people commit same mistake!!!👍
@@SailfishSoundSystem he did say countries learn to understand what you read before making dumb remarks
Stuart campbell You are dumb.
For what..,? Jonas
Murdered
Mu don't do know usa fkd up this
I was 1 recce force political shit now 77 old bring it on
The Art of War: Win the battle without firering a gun = ANC used this strategy!
Seriously?? You are joking, right ? Instead they planted bombs and killed many innocent women and children including their own people. In any event this has nothing to do with the ANC who was not involved in the border war - thei 'war' was through cowardly terrorist actions of bombs.
Same as Americans bombing when people fight back they're called terrorists.
@@jbk138 Eh, what method should they have used? Maybe you do not understand warfare. When you are outgunned and a total underdog, you use effective methods against your enemy. After all what was SA doing in the townships? How Boers are even allowed stay there is more mercy than I would have shown.
@@elzorro7of9 You obviously don't have any clue what transpired back then in SA and the border war and effectively admitted on social media that you condone terrorism. You want to discauss and tell me about warfare ?? -hahahahahahaha -get an eductaion Einstein,
@@jbk138 Dry your eyes man. All war is terror and what 'genius' in command of a untrained and inexperienced fighting force would engage in stand up battles?! The Viet Cong showed what can be done against an imperial aggressor.
We have even defeated USA forces in Angola during the war, shame
10 000 Cubans went home in a box. castro was in trouble when Russia got out of there after military setbacks against the south Africans. it stopped its funding and arms supply to the Cubans under the guise of payment for sugar. Castro was worried at his high death rate of casualtys and made up the concocted story he was victorious but nearly every battle was won by the south Africans. The south Africans didn't want to go into angola in the first place but the arrival of communist forces changed that. swapo never won one engagement and were soundly beaten. inkontwe sizwe had their arses kicked and were hopeless. mandela just made up the story of how castro was so successful in squashing apartheid. this is total lefty nonesence, lies, the south Africa public were at odds with apartheid and just gave the country to the anc. . castros African marxist revolution adventure was a failure. added to that humiliating situation for the cubans they faced only 3000 south African troops wo were totally outnumbered by the marxists. If south Africa had called up its 140 000 strong army the Cubans would have been totally destroyed.Added to this south Africa had most of the world against it as well as sanctions placed on it. The left are master at lying and propaganda and subversion they simply have to lie because they cant tell the TRUTH. The lefty bbc lied ad nauseum in the early 90s, and its gotten even worse lying on a continuous basis( to its own british public who see right through its false subversive lefty agenda )now as the left hate President Trump, and are trying to get rid of him, but failing because the people of America know how the lefty media is fake news and lying continuously for their Marxist liberal agenda. The Marxist videos on utube are a total joke they are Pathetic and amateur full of lies. The Cubans and mpla casualty rate/losses were very high. the left have subversively changed the history and the true facts. the SADF, despite its planes were old and dated, were a superior fighting professional force in the field and were destroying the Cubans. Had the Cubans entered SWA Namibia the SADF would have destroyed them. Today the situation in south africa In 2017 a million people have been murdered in south Africa since apartheid ended in 94. and 3/4s million woman raped, 3 month old babies raped and 4500 innocent white productive farmers gruesomely murdered, ethnically cleansed, by the corrupt innept lefty socialist racist anc government in south Africa. In 2017 the left still pushes its cultural marxist ideology in the west and the liberals have sided with the Marxists . the lefty media lying daily nonstop to achieve this lefty agenda.
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Ja jong, voor hy sy oe uitvee werk hy weer in die tuin en noem my baas.
Thabo Sethipa ek sal jou tuinwerk doen, maar net op een voorwaarde. Jy noem my nogsteeds baas ;D
Brian Trend Truth.
Brian Trend and then our own traitorous S.A.government stabbed us in the back just as our arms industry was becoming a power house now the Chinese and others are benefiting from that investment and S.A.sinks into the communist chaos that Angola experienced
Viva fidel!
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Kill a commie for mommy
It’s great they got Lucio Lara to participate in this documentary. Sadly though he’s in full ideological rhetoric mode thus his otherwise indispensable insight is nullified somewhat.
“We were alone, poorly equipped, poorly trained” ...no Lucio we’ve already established that the MPLA had _substantial_ Soviet/Cuban backing by the mid 70s, including receipt of numerous arms shipments and extensive training since the early 60’s! Good grief.
A wasted opportunity.
Addendum: And Castro’s full of it too! All this ‘we (Cuba) intervened on our own volition, Moscow didn’t know anything about it’ cobblers. Cuba militarily intervened in Angola at the DIRECT BEHEST of Moscow! That’s an established, irrefutable fact not mere speculation.
Calling people full of it is defeating your arguments. Before 1975, they all got good junk of helps from Africa and elsewhere in the world. As a Guinean by birth, my father Before he was arrested and killed by Sekou Toure was very much involved with what we called in French ( les mouvements de lutte de libération) from the neighboring Guinea Bissau to Mozambique. Holden Roberto at one point had Guinean diplomatic passport. The late Lucio Lara and Iko Careira were both teachers at institut polytechnique de Conakry. To make long story short, there were hardly clean hands during Angolan tragedy. MPLA, UNITA and FLNA were all in la lutta together until the spoiled of war divided them. Mais ça c'est une partie de l'histoire qui reste à écrire.
Henry Kissinger eventually admitted in his memoirs that the Cubans intervening in Angola had nothing to do with the Soviet Union. Your addendum of "established, irrefutable fact" is pure anglo american propaganda whether you realise it or not.
17:19 "The congress would've stopped us if we hadn't successfully lied to them." Will you ever learn?
Cuba intervened against the soviets. I had family members in the high part of Minit and FAR. The Cuban government disliked the soviet way of thinking but again they needed equipment. The Russians used to call the Cuban conflictive.