What are the Mario Bros’ views on [the Italian North African campaign] Mario says: It should be quite difficult to maintain this frontline, we may have to send everything we got. Luigi says: O b a m a M i a…
Hoi4 MP in a nutshell starter pack: -Insane battles on the Eastern Front -Someone decides to do a new strategy and gets clowned -Braun screams a lot -College can’t micro -Peef wheezes in the background -Swimmy rage -Clutch Naval Invasions -Cooming over naval battles -Someone pushes without allied support and gets encircled -Golden Lost
It was a very strange game for sure. The Axis kept on handing the Allies defeat after defeat after defeat. The Allies were disastrous and had heavy losses and lost a lot of tanks and mechanized units..... and still they somehow managed to create a huge army to storm the Axis and win. I don't know if they were scraping the barrel or if they managed to beat Japan beforehand~
Yup. It's such a nice change of pace from "make frontline, win". Like, I've rarely built full AA at a strategic level on a tile outside of a capital city but even one or two on a tile can really mess with Strat bombers. I like how it's not "bombers destroyed or routed" but is said as "bombers disturbed". "Oh god, that AA is annoying, ya know what? Screw you guys, I'm going home.".
>Claims to have discovered a new great strategy on how to play Italy >Shows multiple encirclements with hundreds of thousands of dying allied soldiers, Heavy tanks, mechanised etc on all fronts >Loses Something doesnt add up
It's still Italy: if Germany can't beat the USSR, literally Italy can't do anything. You can't just kill the Allies forever as Italy man, you have half the industry of the UK, let alone the US...
I mean, how often does the Axis win in these games? I've watched most of the videos on this channel and the Axis won around 20 out of 230 games. I think this war isn't very balanced. (I have never played the game myself, so I might be wrong.)
@@3st3st77 Mate its a ww2 game. You cannot balance a game about where 3 much smaller powers are practically fighting against the clock before the US and USSR become too powerfull. It is balanced enough while still being realistic
Fuck I love watching you play Italy. Everytime you play them you pick a cursed strat that just fucking works. Italy most powerful Axis nation confirmed.
Italian Air Force: We've bombed the Allied army's entire logistics system, they have no supply! Italian Army which hasn't received rations in a month: Good, now it's an even fight
They literally wiped the allies like 3 to 5 times in africa this game, it was insane. It was even more insane that the allies somehow also had enough for a dday which killed the axis.
@@warhawk2976 You wish lol. In real life, the US alone produced more planes in 1944 than Japan did from 1939 to 1945. By 1943, the Allies replaced all ship tonnages lost since 1939. In 4 years, the US almost fully motorized its army while helping its Allies to do the same. The Axis in relied heavily on horses till the end of the war. HOI already buffed the Axis by giving them a chance, when in reality the Axis never really stood a chance.
@@Normacly yea thats great, factories produce alot, but what the Allies didnt actually have was manpower, getting rekt several time shouldve destroyed the Brits and cripple the american because they arent as insane as Germany pretty much puttin everyone into the army
Not pictured in the video: - Retreat bug that reenacted Bardia in Operation Compass, that is: killed entire Italian African Army, save for the port guards - Golden Strat (TM) that put 30 German infantry divisions in Ethiopia, got supply problems (even though there should be enough local supply, in theory) and finally slaughtered all of them.
Mussolini addressing his Department for Aviation: “So, what if we secured are superiority by covering the sky in planes. If there’s no room for them to fly, how could they counter us?”
The fun bit is that as far as I understand it, +40% agility for strats would actually make them worse. They have next to no base agility, and because your agility also determines the maximum bonus enemy fighters can get for having more agility than you, you're actually giving them a greater agility bonus.
Italy: "Our bombers will blot out the sun!" Allies: "Then we will fight in the shade" Also the Allies later: "The war situation has developed not necessarily to the Allies advantage."
I love games like this, where even though the entire team is clowning, they're all having fun and no one is raging. Really makes it so much more entertaining!
@@Jacob-hx7kk Matthius is possibly referring to the book, "Rules for the Use of Aircraft in War" by Giulio Douhet. Another related fun fact: Italy was the first nation to drop a bomb from a plane on an enemy target in 1911 during the Italo-Turkish War.
@@petesperandio a bonus fact that is kinda related to this reply: italiens were also the first to lose their aircraft against enemy fire. In Libya War 1911-1912 turks shot down an italien scout plane with bolt action rifles.
i just imagine allied soldiers and engineers in egypt just doing their job then suddenly a cloud of bombers just roll up and blocked the sun while flattening everything with the dessert
My friends and I had two amazing games. One time we were the Axis and we went Full-Strat bomber. I think Hungary went Heavy Fighters. But we destroyed the allies pretty easily. We still lost just cause we focused way too much on Strats and not on ground. Another time though we were the allies and did the same Strat. Germany died within a couple years. Then we went to war with Russia soon after. Russia was so mad. I remember hearing the Germany player making fun of Russia. Russia was just having a field day with no factory Germany. Now they are the ones with no factories.
Fun fact (a year late): it was actually an Italian war theorist,Giulio Douhet, that predicted the effectiveness of strategic bombing and they had some of the best early war planes.... Just not enough
Legends say that in this timeline, Mussolini flew off with his grand air force into the frozen north, dethroned Santa, and now waits for the perfect moment to unleash his revenge on an unsuspecting world.
And that's why I began switching from Battlefield Support to Strategic Bombing after I defeat Britain and France as Germany in 1940. You can have good air support for ground forces, but if railways and supply is fucked...
Putin: "I don't know why we're pushing, like I truly don't know why we're pushing with yellow air into Ukraine, we aren't just thinking huh?" NATO: "Oh there goes a Russian Convoy" Putin: "like Gerasimov what the fuck are you doing? Look at what Belarus is doing! He is just sitting there waiting! You're just like 'I got this guys!' No logistics, no infantry, yellow air 'I got this' What the fuck man?"
I actually have a Italian Strat Bomber story as well. Way back when in the days of Hearts of Iron III Black Ice, me and my mate played as Italy and Germany respectively. I went on my usual African wild ride and he went for Barbarossa. Then he got bogged down just past Moscow. The Soviet Union was at 98% capitulation so he wanted to knock it down with strat bombing. Luckily I have been developing Strat Bombers since the beginning of the game and I offered my help. Due to the time sensitive nature of the war I did not redeploy my airforce into Europe, I literally sent my heavy bombers from by bases in Cairo, Egypt to bomb the Soviets at Stalingrad. I cannot imagine the looks of the Soviet troops when they see Italian bombers in desert camouflage dropping bombs on their heads before going back to Africa.
Every player shitting on Strat bombers as useless because of CAS. Strat Bomber enjoyers before NSB: I enjoy my bombers, how did you know. No step back releases Strat Bomber enjoyers: We doing alittle bit of trolling.
Bo when be bombs the crap out of Egypt so hard that he now has to repair the damage he’s done on a catastrophic scale: *dj khaled suffering from success*
great video I just love it however, even when the axis makes great plays on the allies killing their armies multiple times it seems like it has no effect on the allies as they always come back and win. I guess the mod is just extremely pro allies.
If you are doing bomber command, player must only have enough factories to make bombers and all refineries. You must rely on others to produce guns and tanks etc for you.
Bomber mario do it again!
Mario
bruh italy
This is just so funny
clutch time bo! i was just rewatching old episodes and wondering when will the next one come out! lucky me!
Let's a-go, Wahoo!
Imagine being in Cairo during 1941 thinking your about to attack Europe’s soft underbelly but then the whole block gets leveled by Mario and Luigi.
“Mario what are you doing that’s an orphanage!!!”
"No luigi there just tiny soldiers"
What are the Mario Bros’ views on [the Italian North African campaign]
Mario says: It should be quite difficult to maintain this frontline, we may have to send everything we got.
Luigi says: O b a m a M i a…
When we bomb factories it's denying the enemy army of further equipment, we're just taking it a step further and aiming at the source of manpower.
Just tryna roll up to the Pyramids and 2 italian plumbers just came throught and flattened them lmao
Even though the Axis lost, that encirclement in Africa in 44 was actually one of those most mentally dominating things Ive seen you do, Bo
Italian game impact.
the whole thing with start bombers was really nice thinking outside the box
i can't believe it actually works and the UK lost Alexandria giving Bo a port
I've played games where that would of made a few allies RQ
@@TheKonkaman this reminds me of a time being Finland and almost caputulating America with a few infntry and a dream
Hoi4 MP in a nutshell starter pack:
-Insane battles on the Eastern Front
-Someone decides to do a new strategy and gets clowned
-Braun screams a lot
-College can’t micro
-Peef wheezes in the background
-Swimmy rage
-Clutch Naval Invasions
-Cooming over naval battles
-Someone pushes without allied support and gets encircled
-Golden Lost
we need bingo cards
@@SerinCloudeye fr
This could be a drinking game
@@coledevlin3984 who-can-make-it-to-ER-first game
@@coledevlin3984 Shot every time Golden says to think critically
Truly a worthy sequel of “Italian air power”
We need a movie of it
When even *Swimmy* thinks it's a bad idea, you just KNOW it's gonna be good.
Mr cyclone
The trains might not run on time, but the planes certainly will
Allied forces in Egypt: wondering what's the weather going to be like today
Bo: "cloudy, with 100% of raining bombs"
Thats not clouds, its the sun being blocked out by italian bombers
Here's this weeks weather forecast.
Bombs, with a 100% chance of bombs.
lmeo
They drop explosive pizza
It was a very strange game for sure. The Axis kept on handing the Allies defeat after defeat after defeat. The Allies were disastrous and had heavy losses and lost a lot of tanks and mechanized units..... and still they somehow managed to create a huge army to storm the Axis and win. I don't know if they were scraping the barrel or if they managed to beat Japan beforehand~
Lol this is what is called "historic bias", I swear Allies win 3/4 of the time.
It was japan. He was neutered in a year and the allies could pit their entire force against us.
when realism goes before game design. also bo perspective is ofcourse bias and shortened for the sake of content
the Axis are always disadvantaged by the combined industries of the Allies.
@@bungholius Ah that'll do, no Japan means Allies can just spunk everything they have into Europe.
0:44
"Okay I'll just be trading with the enemy making their economy strong"
"Good! ... Wait what?!"
That makes sense if the France player is planning to try to hold but you know he can't.
@@williambrennan104 Wdym? Like they build civs/mils instead of forts because they think they won't cap?
@@kaigao4842 What france builds forts in MP?
@@AjarTadpole7202 😥
"Do you think it can actually work though?"
"No"
"Im researching them"
Italy: *Builds strategic bombers.*
The rest of the Axis: "You weren't supposed to do that!".
Then Italy takes Egypt, Iraq and the Suez canal.
The Axis: I never doubted you for a second.
Italy: Yeah for sure.
the new supply mechanics makes air shockingly powerful, logi-bombing and air supply are just amazing
Just like irl
Yup. It's such a nice change of pace from "make frontline, win". Like, I've rarely built full AA at a strategic level on a tile outside of a capital city but even one or two on a tile can really mess with Strat bombers. I like how it's not "bombers destroyed or routed" but is said as "bombers disturbed". "Oh god, that AA is annoying, ya know what? Screw you guys, I'm going home.".
@@TheLoneTerran The biggest use of anti air is denial, just like coastal guns and unassailable positions.
nah its brokenly OP now, completely unlike irl
@@cc0767 Meta changes
You: Owh no so broken whehhhh.
Learn to play the new meta or go play the older versions of the game.
"You can't invade Ukraine with red air."
"I seen this one before."
Heh, topical..
Putin literally ragequitting Millenium Dawn IRL.
"Bomb the fort in Kiev"
@@im_flat Doesn't matter since Ukrainian Divisions have 200% entrenchment
@@theunforgiven9386 nuke the divisions
"Why are we pushing with red air into Ukraine?"
"ODESSA, ODESSA, ODESSA!"
"WE NEED PLANES IN UKRAINE"
"Can you strat bomb the fort on Kiev?"
This..this one is familiar but from where?
- Vladimir Putin 2022
Art imitates reality.
Putin moment
@@asriellian Russia got green air, though.
If the Italians trains can't arrive on time, Mussolini will make sure no one else on the planet will have trains AT ALL!
Barely 10 seconds in and we already have new Clownkoen1 moment
Edit: Golden was right for once in his life, we shouldn't have doubted Bo
>Claims to have discovered a new great strategy on how to play Italy
>Shows multiple encirclements with hundreds of thousands of dying allied soldiers, Heavy tanks, mechanised etc on all fronts
>Loses
Something doesnt add up
Never does
It's still Italy: if Germany can't beat the USSR, literally Italy can't do anything. You can't just kill the Allies forever as Italy man, you have half the industry of the UK, let alone the US...
I mean, how often does the Axis win in these games? I've watched most of the videos on this channel and the Axis won around 20 out of 230 games. I think this war isn't very balanced. (I have never played the game myself, so I might be wrong.)
@@3st3st77 Mate its a ww2 game. You cannot balance a game about where 3 much smaller powers are practically fighting against the clock before the US and USSR become too powerfull. It is balanced enough while still being realistic
@@RK-cj4oc Did I say anything else?
Fuck I love watching you play Italy. Everytime you play them you pick a cursed strat that just fucking works. Italy most powerful Axis nation confirmed.
Italian Air Force: We've bombed the Allied army's entire logistics system, they have no supply!
Italian Army which hasn't received rations in a month: Good, now it's an even fight
They literally wiped the allies like 3 to 5 times in africa this game, it was insane. It was even more insane that the allies somehow also had enough for a dday which killed the axis.
yeah the mod has to be extremely allies biased
@@warhawk2976 No it was that Japan got beat early game.
@@warhawk2976 You wish lol. In real life, the US alone produced more planes in 1944 than Japan did from 1939 to 1945. By 1943, the Allies replaced all ship tonnages lost since 1939.
In 4 years, the US almost fully motorized its army while helping its Allies to do the same. The Axis in relied heavily on horses till the end of the war.
HOI already buffed the Axis by giving them a chance, when in reality the Axis never really stood a chance.
@@Normacly yea thats great, factories produce alot, but what the Allies didnt actually have was manpower, getting rekt several time shouldve destroyed the Brits and cripple the american because they arent as insane as Germany pretty much puttin everyone into the army
@@Normacly i’m pretty sure he was speaking in terms of game balance, not historical realism
Not pictured in the video:
- Retreat bug that reenacted Bardia in Operation Compass, that is: killed entire Italian African Army, save for the port guards
- Golden Strat (TM) that put 30 German infantry divisions in Ethiopia, got supply problems (even though there should be enough local supply, in theory) and finally slaughtered all of them.
What was the retreat bug?
I can only imagine The Mario Theme Playing as tons of bombs are released over Egyptian positions
Italy: I'm gonna need some aspirin...
Germany: Why?
Italy: For all this back pain for carrying the entire Axis war effort!
Mussolini addressing his Department for Aviation:
“So, what if we secured are superiority by covering the sky in planes. If there’s no room for them to fly, how could they counter us?”
I think they invited a Russian into their Department.
Just bomb the airports, they can't attack our planes if they can't even get off the ground.
@@crabruler1590 da
more like if the enemy have no airfield to take off
The fun bit is that as far as I understand it, +40% agility for strats would actually make them worse. They have next to no base agility, and because your agility also determines the maximum bonus enemy fighters can get for having more agility than you, you're actually giving them a greater agility bonus.
The Italian counter offensive literally steiners army
Italy: "Our bombers will blot out the sun!"
Allies: "Then we will fight in the shade"
Also the Allies later: "The war situation has developed not necessarily to the Allies advantage."
I love games like this, where even though the entire team is clowning, they're all having fun and no one is raging. Really makes it so much more entertaining!
This universe is literally the same as our own BUT noone makes fun of the Italians in WW2... I see this as an absolute win.
Fun fact, irl Italy literally wrote the book on strategic bombing
What's the title?
@@Jacob-hx7kk Matthius is possibly referring to the book, "Rules for the Use of Aircraft in War" by Giulio Douhet. Another related fun fact: Italy was the first nation to drop a bomb from a plane on an enemy target in 1911 during the Italo-Turkish War.
@@petesperandio a bonus fact that is kinda related to this reply: italiens were also the first to lose their aircraft against enemy fire. In Libya War 1911-1912 turks shot down an italien scout plane with bolt action rifles.
@@yigitoz8387 now that is just unlucky
Bo I've been watching for a while, this game was a huge treat. So good on so many levels. Thank you so much for making videos.
i just imagine allied soldiers and engineers in egypt just doing their job then suddenly a cloud of bombers just roll up and blocked the sun while flattening everything with the dessert
That encirclement in north Africa was amazing
I really wanna know the Allied reaction to the Great Italian Encirclement in Africa lmfao
That naval invasion encirclement was a better then anything Italy did in the real war.
It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life.
My friends and I had two amazing games. One time we were the Axis and we went Full-Strat bomber. I think Hungary went Heavy Fighters. But we destroyed the allies pretty easily. We still lost just cause we focused way too much on Strats and not on ground.
Another time though we were the allies and did the same Strat. Germany died within a couple years. Then we went to war with Russia soon after. Russia was so mad. I remember hearing the Germany player making fun of Russia. Russia was just having a field day with no factory Germany. Now they are the ones with no factories.
Every Bo video is either "we screwed up in Africa, but won the war in the end" or "we utterly dominated in Africa, but lost the war in the end"
8:12 Golden never fails to make me laugh lmfao
Imagine manning the line at El Alamein and the final thing you hear before a wave of fire engulfs you is "Pizza Time".
I wonder if when they finally give italy a proper focus tree, it'll come with a reworked air research/designer like what they did with ships and tanks
Agreed, but im making do with mods for now
Ship rework killed ships. Tank rework killed tanks. Now we just need a plane rework and the meta will be Infantry only.
@@PadaV4 how the fuck did mtg kill ships and nsb kill tanks? it literally unlocked the game from CV spam and Heavy tanks
Supersonic stratbombers! Supersonic Stratbombers!
@@datboi7893 he is brainlet that cant click the autodesign button
Fun fact (a year late): it was actually an Italian war theorist,Giulio Douhet, that predicted the effectiveness of strategic bombing and they had some of the best early war planes.... Just not enough
That north africa encirclement, even if the axis lost in 10 minutes that probably scared the allies.
8:24 "These guys don't use their brain like me." Is it even *possible* to give yourself a back-handed compliment that goes over your own head?
It's amazing ton watch these games go from the axis completely clapping ass, to losing in one quick cut.
Bo: "Im going to use Strat-Bombers. They'll never suspect it."
Bo: *Gets Clowned On*
Bo: *Strat Bombers Actually work*
Allies: *Surprise Pikachu Face*
Germany: "Well damn. It worked. Good job Bo."
Bo: *bombs Kiev into the ground*
Putin: Write that down! Write that down!
And yes, I'm going to hell for that one.
2:38 "I was! It was so f*cking stupid, why is this working?"
Welcome to strategy games! Where dumb strategies works somehow
The Italian really said "one last war crime for the road"
That spitfire @ 1:31 must've 100% bonus agi
Legends say that in this timeline, Mussolini flew off with his grand air force into the frozen north, dethroned Santa, and now waits for the perfect moment to unleash his revenge on an unsuspecting world.
the present the allies didnt expect
I love how at this point I can understand who’s playing who just reading the opening text :D
This video just saved my entire night thank you so much Bo.
And that's why I began switching from Battlefield Support to Strategic Bombing after I defeat Britain and France as Germany in 1940. You can have good air support for ground forces, but if railways and supply is fucked...
4:57 Russian High Command circa February 2022
It's yellow air in the Ukraine today
Putin: "I don't know why we're pushing, like I truly don't know why we're pushing with yellow air into Ukraine, we aren't just thinking huh?"
NATO: "Oh there goes a Russian Convoy"
Putin: "like Gerasimov what the fuck are you doing? Look at what Belarus is doing! He is just sitting there waiting! You're just like 'I got this guys!' No logistics, no infantry, yellow air 'I got this' What the fuck man?"
@@thecommandant341 "That's some copium I'm on after I lost my bank accounts in Switzerland"
6:20 golden becoming Mickey?
Instead of doing homework due in 7:30 hours I’m here. Thanks Boe!
Ah yes all the Italian aces throughout WW2 were all recognized in the history books of today🤣
Imagine living in a world where Axis side of WWII was carried by Italy.
USA: I have a nuke
AXIS: We got the Italian bomber command. That nuke ain't gonna launch because we're gonna blow it up first
Golden last game: Annexes all of Raj (yes)
Bo this game: can I do planes (no)
german in WWII : anyone got fuel?
rest of the axis: haha jawol kommantant das ist a gut one
In my dreams it did change the tide of war and Bokoen and the boys lifed happily ever after.
I believe Italy is the perfect representation of how steiner would have gone if the counter attack materialized....... Glorious yet all in vain
All I heard this whole video was moments of excitement followed by
"I'm coming"
Who knew Italy in Ww2 had more accurate bombers than modern Russia
I wouldn't call carpet bombing infrastructure 'accurate'
@@matthiuskoenig3378 Volume of Fire > Accuracy
Germany is roleplaying really well. I just imagine fast fast FAST! as snell snell SNELL! He just sounds so mad.
Now thats service, i subbed 5 mins ago and bang new vid
I see Carrykoen1 came out in full force with Bomber Mario
I actually have a Italian Strat Bomber story as well.
Way back when in the days of Hearts of Iron III Black Ice, me and my mate played as Italy and Germany respectively. I went on my usual African wild ride and he went for Barbarossa. Then he got bogged down just past Moscow. The Soviet Union was at 98% capitulation so he wanted to knock it down with strat bombing. Luckily I have been developing Strat Bombers since the beginning of the game and I offered my help.
Due to the time sensitive nature of the war I did not redeploy my airforce into Europe, I literally sent my heavy bombers from by bases in Cairo, Egypt to bomb the Soviets at Stalingrad. I cannot imagine the looks of the Soviet troops when they see Italian bombers in desert camouflage dropping bombs on their heads before going back to Africa.
Bo was basically Eren with the Rumbling, leaving only ruins behind
"The Italian counter attack did not turn the tide of the war..." -Memoirs of Bo, Chapter 24
"Mein fuhrer... Mussolini....."
"Mussolini's counterattack has failed. The Italians have surrendered"
Every video features a steiner-tier counter attack followed by an end-screen declaring the Axis lost minutes later
That marine play into Alemain was *chefs kiss*
This has to be one of the most interesting games I’ve seen yet
Ah yes, the time when the Italian Orbital Star Fleet bombed all of Egypt
Bo just recreated the power of Steel Divison MARO in HoI4. Glorious
It's just epic when clown bo mentally dominating the Allies in 1941 with strat bombers only
Italian bombers literally glassing Egypt covenant style.
I had to watch without sound at the start and I could have sworn Golden was swimmy LUL
Oh and Romania was Braun
Mario dropping the Bombomb’s.
Every player shitting on Strat bombers as useless because of CAS.
Strat Bomber enjoyers before NSB: I enjoy my bombers, how did you know.
No step back releases
Strat Bomber enjoyers: We doing alittle bit of trolling.
you know a war is over when axis ask " someone has fuel?"
Last year was the year of Golden Memes now its Bokoen memeing hard
It’s so nice that Braun wasn’t in this one
Damn I really thought the game would've been joever with that italian game impact
Imagine spaghetti-like bombs falling all over Egypt... A magnificent sight
that el-alamein encirclement *chef kiss*
I like Golden's reaction like that idea was so bad it caused him pain and terror
In principle, this is the canonical face of Germany and others when Italy makes an Impact
Oh bokeon1 uploaded pog champ
Bo when be bombs the crap out of Egypt so hard that he now has to repair the damage he’s done on a catastrophic scale: *dj khaled suffering from success*
I think I like it more when Golden and Bo are both playing Axis
It's been almost 4 years since ISP released the video "Planes Only"
It would seem that it got recommended to Bo before the game
Bo authorized the use of Tactical Pasta Can and Meatball strikes.
great video I just love it however, even when the axis makes great plays on the allies killing their armies multiple times it seems like it has no effect on the allies as they always come back and win. I guess the mod is just extremely pro allies.
Mario: LUGI GET THE STRAT BOMBERS-
"idk why were pushing into Ukraine with red air"
"Ive seen this one before" XD lmao Spot! On!
If you are doing bomber command, player must only have enough factories to make bombers and all refineries. You must rely on others to produce guns and tanks etc for you.