It's common practice to color slave states as red. Google "map of civil war" you'll see hundreds of people doing the same - I didn't do this as some dumb political party smear.
I knew that tobacco was the main crop used by slavery until Eli Whitney developed the cotton gin, and my two sources of knowledge for that one is living in Tennessee and having done a report and wax museum project in 5th grade and I chose him. I'm actually pretty damn proud I knew that.
It's only "ever-lasting" you allow it to. You think the US was the only country that every had a slave trade? Brazil didn't abolish slavery until the 1870s, and Arabs have a term for Blacks that is the same as the word "slave". In fact, slavery STILL exist in parts of the Middle East, and yet I don't see a video on THAT.
As someone who has actually “picked” cotton by hand, I live in Texas, and cotton is still grown here in mass, it is actually very painful and difficult to do without gloves.
i lived in alabama and we lived near cottonfields. Once we rode our bikes and went and picked whole t-shirt full of cotton. We were going to sell the cotton we stole from a farm...by the end of the long dirt road..we dumped it as it became to bothersome to keep riding home with it..LOL Those were the days.. bmx bikes on old dirt roads..not a person in sight for literally miles...a car might drive by once every 4-5 hours..
@@CcReap3r Yea I got confused at the end there. He basically said the civil war was over slavery. I find it very unlikely that people in the north would want to fight in a war where they would likely die over an issue they would have seen as trivial.
Joke was funny... but jokes aside he probably didn't intend to perpetuate slavery, quite the opposite. But that's what technology does, it enables people to do good and bad things. Another example is guns, sure they can protect us or kill us. I'm pretty sure Henry Ford who invented the mass production of automobiles didn't intened to cause millions of car crashes and consequently deaths, but it just happened anyway. ;)
States' rights is about the separation of power between the US (federal) government and the individual states. The US founders debated the issue, and ended up with the amendments that specify what powers belong to the US government and what powers belong to the individual states.
@@chopperman8042 Nope. The main reason was slavery. As it is outlined by the "Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union" and every single other official document.
This video is so condescending. He talks like he's talking to a 5 year old or a golden retriever. Yes i know all this. The real reason slavery wasn't addressed at the founding of America is because they already had an unwinnable war against the British they didn't need to fight a war over slavery at the same time. To say that slavery was going to die out on its own is a rationalization. One war at a time. To take on the British and slavery at the same time would have been insane. We'd be talking about the crazy British colonists who all got executed.
If you actually take the time to read up on the economics surrounding the slave trade, capitalism was indeed forcing out the actual "need" for slaves. Here's a quick run down. 1. Automation did render slaves more costly. You had to feed them, shelter them, and treat them for any illnesses or injuries, else you don't have cost effective labor to begin with. Any plantation owner that valued profit over any inherent prejudices were going to make use of such technologies to save them money and churn out more product. 2. Slaves were constantly trying to flee. This is the reason for laws enacted in northern states requiring that escaped slaves were to be captured and returned. Slavery was effectively being subsidized by tax payer dollars. The system was on its last legs. 3. The central issue regarding slavery was actually not economic. The point of debate was a social one. Would it be okay to let a group of people freely roam society that were only a few generations removed from total savagery, who mostly didn't even know how to read or write, and would most certainly harbor a justifiable grudge against that society for keeping them in shackles for hundreds of years? Lincoln was actually planning on deporting all the slaves to Haiti over this very concern after the ratification of the 13th amendment. Even the often cited speech by Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens hinges on this very notion: that the slaves were where they belonged. Nothing at all to do with the economics.
*says slaves were only used for one thing* me thinking: "hmm probably tobacco" video: "not what you're thinking" me: "hmm, maybe cotton then i guess" video: "Tobacco" me: -_-
That was the Daughters of the Confederacy rhetoric to try to make the Civil War seem more...noble. Conservatives latched onto that because they knew it made the Civil War idea tip in their favor. Spining ideas basically. Conservatives ALWAYS have to do that rather than face the facts, their ideas are bad
The later seems to highlight autonomy as the focus implying the states consent is necessary to institute significant changes while the former focuses on refusing to change with the times and evolve from the archaic systems of slavery
@@TheBestEverGMG yeah that confuses me too. I'm from TN and a conservative (apparently that matters) and I've always hated the idea of slavery yet I've never been a slave
People don't seem to remember that the original Michigan Militia was dispatched throughout the Old Northwest to put down slavery and lynching gangs even prior to statehood. Michigan's Iowa County (now the State of Iowa) was constantly being occupied by slavers who came into towns to take them over. Iowa had slavery-friendly leanings going back to old man Dubuque who had notoriously enslaved natives to work his lead mines. He even had men in hiding set off Chinese fireworks on cue to enforce his claims of godhood to the gullible local tribes.
the saddest thing about the cotton gin is that as far as I can tell, Eli Whitney intended it to end slavery- he thought if you could make a lot more shirts with a lot less labour, you could hire less people (less slaves, no slaves)
It's really fascinating how one simple invention was able to extend Slavery's lifespan so much. By all accounts the civil war had zero reason to actually happen, but one invention made slavery economically important enough to bring the US to that point.
Not only that but the inventor of the cotton gin (Eli Whitney) believed his invention would reduce the need for slaves and eventually faze the practice out entirely. Of course that part back fired.
Never underestimate the will of racists to maintain their racism. Once slavery was abolished, Southern whites quickly enacted Slavery II, also called Segregation and Jim Crow. Now we're experiencing Slavery III, where undocumented immigrants are allowed to work for low wages without legal protection, minority voters are frequently disenfranchised with tainted "election integrity" laws, for-profit prisons have two million people incarcerated, and a militarized police force used to terrorize anybody who isn't rich and white.
As an Australian, I used to think that we had our own slavery system in the form of convicts. They provided the labor needed to do the backbreaking work of carving out the colonies here (except in the 'free-settled' colonies). However, they were most often freed after a few years, given a grant of land and provided an instant bonus white settler for the Empire. US slavery was far more evil as an African slave could not only look forward to spending the rest of his/her life a slave, but also their children for all their lives. Terrible. Convicts had it easy by comparison and often ended up having a better life here than back in England..
Precisely why it is important to learn from our past actions, so we never repeat them. By the way, thank you for sharing some of your history, as I really love learning about it (especially military history).
@@gusto8069 Dont forget the Portuguese fort built on the gold coast in 1480s to facilitate their slave trade. They were the first to bring them to the new word. Islamic slave trade much worse, as many as 18 million enslaved Africans. Sad!
It's not particularly accurate to say that Lincoln didn't want to free the slaves. Although he was willing to keep it around if he believed it would preserve the union, he often stated that his personal belief was that slavery was immoral. He signed off the letter that you quoted with this: "I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free." Also, Lincoln's views on slavery don't change the fact that secession was a direct response to his election. Regardless of his beliefs or actions, the South was seeing the first election in a generation in which the President-elect was not a Southern slaveholder. Secession was as much a response to Lincoln himself as it was to what he represented: the first time that the northern population had grown enough to put a northern president in the White House. Whether it was Lincoln or the next president, the southern states knew that slavery's time was limited if they remained in the union.
@@HerewardWake Except you didn't. You stated that Lincoln was willing to allow slavery to continue if it kept the United States together (or "for political gain" as you misconstrue it), which I stated myself before you came along. You _stated_, without evidence, that Lincoln hated blacks, which, true or not, wouldn't change his attitude towards slavery as a concept. And you certainly gave no evidence to refute Lincoln's own words that he wished "all men everywhere to be free." So what did you actually do? You stated some things without evidence, committing at least one historical error (Lincoln never "outlawed [slavery] in new states." He emancipated slaves in rebelling states, but passed no law regarding new states.). You rephrased history in the standard language of the Lost Cause narrative, portraying Lincoln as a power-hungry man without principles and the South as the "Last Stand" against tyranny. And then you thought you had somehow _shown_ that Lincoln didn't mind slavery, an idea completely contrary to historical record. But if you think you can find some actual evidence, be my guest.
@@HerewardWake "I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed *personal wish that all men everywhere could be free.*" Abraham Lincoln, August 22, 1862. It's literally in the same letter. You've again shown what I already agreed to, multiple times, which is that "he was willing to keep [slavery] around if he believed it would preserve the union." You have yet to show that he didn't think it was immoral. You won't, of course: Lincoln wrote that the 'only substantial difference' between North and South was that "You think slavery is right and ought to be extended; *we think it is wrong* and ought to be restricted." In a letter to Joshua Speed: "You know *I dislike slavery*; and you fully admit the *abstract wrong* of it." "I hate it because of the *monstrous injustice of slavery itself.*" But if you can find a quote where he says "I'm totally cool with slavery." rather than "I'm willing to accept it to prevent civil war," please do.
@@HerewardWake You Lie. Badly. No place has Lincoln ever said this. His empathy for the slave was his reason for detesting slavery. You are projecting. You are full of shit and you have no proof of your lies. Zero.
Dixie: "We were fighting for our freedoms!" Yankee: "What freedoms?" Dixie: "To govern ourselves!" Yankee: "Does the mean the slaves get to govern themselves?" Dixie: "You're trying to trick me!" It's hilarious when slave owners try to pull the "but muh freedoms!" argument. Even the proud boys keep to that and insist they were the victims.
It's funny how everyone practised slavery everywhere, at almost all points in history, and the only reason the north wanted to end it is because they wanted more jobs for working class white people, not because they cared about ending slavery as a concept. Lol
People don’t outlaw things because they’re simply “not profitable” American abolitionism is older than the nation itself, it just didn’t have the power to institute its ideas early on Also Lincoln was a staunch abolitionist his whole life, he just cared more about not dividing America than his personal goal of abolition.
@@rellek4053 The actions of a Tyrant if I ever heard of one.....remember how we were treated the FIRST TIME we "Asked To Leave"...... it's always the same bs.
@@rellek4053 the only good thing Lincoln did was free the slaves, everything else was j tyrannical and he massively expanded the power and scope of the federal government, many of the thing he created a precedent for are the same things being used by the government to be j as tyrannical as Lincoln
@@jurtra9090 It's morally wrong now....it was accepted practice through most of human history. Looking back it's easy to judge people for their mistakes. But those are the people that actually did something about it. If you grew up in an environment where XYZ was accepted, you would also think that XYZ is ok. People don't want to accept that, but it's the truth.
States rights was a far more prevalent belief before the Civil War. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively". That's the 10th Amendment (1791). The 13th Amendment (1865) abolished slavery. Civil War started in 1861 for reference. People today don't care about states rights, and I believe that is the direct result of the North winning the Civil War. Had the South won, who knows how things would be. I believe slavery would have eventually been abolished because that was the ethical trend of the civilized nations, and the industrial revolution sealed the deal of the elimination of menial physical labor. But the concept of states rights would probably be far more integrated into our culture than it is today (less and less as each new generation comes along).
@@Surannhealz, the argument I make is that slavery was a direct violation of natural rights. Thus, the federal government had the authority to intervene. It isn't like the issue was owning more than a certain number of horses or some shit, it was owning humans
Southern States: States need the right to be create their own laws free from the federal government! Northern States: Okay, we’re going to create laws to protect escaped slaves. Southern States: NO NOT LIKE THAT
kirbycide Gits and Shiggles Baby Feet On March 13, the Confederate Congress passed legislation to raise and enlist companies of black soldiers. The legislation was then promulgated into military policy by Davis in General Order No. 14 on March 23, 1865. “I have always been in favor of Emancipation”- Robert E Lee 70% of the Confederacy didn’t have slavery, the north had 5 slave states, and Grant was a slave owner.
Wildfire Thousands of blacks fought for the Confederacy like black Confederate sailor W. S Lewis from CSS Alabama, Cuban Woman Loretta Velasquez dressed as a man to fight for the Confederacy, Cherokee and Choctaw tribes fought for the Confederacy. The last Confederate General to stop fighting was Cherokee General Stand Watie. 10,000 Jews fought for the Confederacy, like Moses Ezekiel. 13,000 Hispanics and 3,000 Mexican-Texans fought for the Confederacy as well, like Santos Benavides. Hundreds of Asians fought for the Confederacy like Charles Chon.
I had a friend in high school who loved maps. Whenever he saw one he had to physically turn his head away. He also loved to freehand draw entire maps from memory. Recently he did the whole world on a balloon in permanent marker.
Northern state land owners also had slaves, they were fighting to place tariffs on southern states, and place taxes onto them. Slavery was something tossed in to add onto their reasons for a war with the south after they broke off. Hell, slavery was about to die due to it being less profitable then other methods of cotton and tobacco farming.
No man .... State Rights is a check on goverment ..... made by founding fathers... Slavery came from Africa...... Learn real USA history not communist make belive history ......
It's true that slavery's been around (that we know of) since Babylon. Every ancient wonder you can name was only made possible through the blood and sweat of forced labor. Even the concept of slave trade, of one group of people farming another to export as slaves to a third party wasn't new when the West African Slave Trade got started. And it's also true that that particular Slave Trade wouldn't have been possible without nonwhite slavers taking people in West Africa. But none of that excuses how we Euro-Americans let that play into our Colonialism and sense of Manifest Destiny. It doesn't excuse us legally defining Africans first as 3/5 of a person and then as property.
Most of the people in Missouri pronounce it Misery. I'm from Ohio, I always thought it was pronounced Miss ur e. Started driving a truck, and once you get out west or in the state the various midwest accents start taking over, but most people pronounce it Misery. Blew my mind. Lol.
Nah, *kudzu* grows well in Florida. 😛 But seriously, sugarcane needs tropical temperatures. Most of Florida isn't warm enough year-round. South Florida does have a large sugarcane industry. But Florida is better known for citrus and various fruits like tomatoes, strawberries, and watermelons. Historically, it seems citrus, tobacco, lumber, turpentine, and cattle were important industries.
In florida and part of lousiana actually and by the way sugar was first cultivated in a tropical-monsoon climate and since the southern third of florida is classified as tropical-monsoon climate that is the best place in continental america for sugar to grow the southern tenth of texas also operates in the same way but that part is to dry to be considered tropical-monsoon climate those two parts of continental america are best suited for tropical food alongside americas oversees possessions which are not antarctica louisiana does not have a single acre of vaguely tropical land while arizona and the southern half of california has exceptional land for desert crops so if it is possible to grow sugar in louisiana it will be one, poor crop
2:05 Hello! Hi! My grandfather and Uncle actually are Cotton and Peanut farmers. I just wanted to say that yes, cotton even now isn’t a very profitable crop. I’m not sure why I wanted to say this, but I did
@@raymondflores5176 I think it's unhealthy for your first instinct to be "lets blame my enemy". Also, it's pretty useless to point out because a term referring to a group back then refers to an entirely different set of people than it refers to today.
the soulth: okay listen up boys, those yankees over there, they think we don't have the right to take other pepole as slaves. Everyone has rights! unless we take them as slaves, than they don't. But we have rights!
Yeh uh... If it isn't the "Lost Cause Myth" mantra once again, as referred to in this video, that magic phrase repeated ad nauseam these days by apologists for the Union, an invocation that is supposed to end all arguments as to the "true" cause of the Civil War, and to determine just who the "good guys" and the "bad guys" were in the conflict. History as propaganda in streamlined black and white, without the confusing shades of gray. Kind of like "abracadabra", for people who are weak on critical thinking and debate skills. The trouble is, the magic only works on those who resort to it. People of intelligence know that (a) the overwhelming majority of the population in the South did not own slaves (rich plantation owners were about the only ones who could afford them and for which slavery was profitable) and (b) the average enlistee in the Confederate army joined to protect his family and meager possessions from an impending Northern invasion being plotted solely to preserve the Union for the benefit of the Northern oligarchy. But don't let the truth impinge upon your retro moralistic fervor, historical revisionism and magical thinking. Click your ruby slippers together and repeat "The Union fought to free the slaves" over and over again until you make it so.
brutalyzedbytv Yes I would agree that most southerners didn’t own slaves, however this does not excuse their support of the side that was pushing for its expansion. That logic is like saying that the nazi soldiers were justified fighting for nazis just to defend their country from America (I understand the nazis are nothing like the confederates, just a logic comparison). I get that most people don’t want to understand the grey area within the civil war as well, but it really was a result of the country’s inability to deal with slavery expansion.
Well, at least they got mention, my home state of Minnesota fought on the side of the Union, he didn't mention it, maybe due to the timeline, we had only just become a state a few years prior to the civil war, then ended up fighting two wars right after the birth of our state, the civil war and the Dakota war going on at the same time.
West Virginia is shown as a state long before 1863 when it was created out of Virginia. Also, WV was not a slave state nor did its citizens side with the Confederacy during the Civil War. It was split off from Virginia in 1863, when the people of this area went against the state of Virginia and refused to side with the South. It was never a "red" state or a slave state that sided with the US.
Texas is one of the biggest cotton producers in the world.. especially lubbock county. Saying you cant grow anything in Texas is quite the exaggeration.
"You can't really grow anything in Texas..." Um, tell that to all the rice and corn down here towards Houston. ;D Also, pretty sure Houston wishes it was dry and burnt af...cuz it freaking floods every time it rains so....yeah.
@@samanthanova6147 thats one of the symptoms of being dry and burned. When soil is extreamly dry its very bad at absorbing water and flood after the rain. Paradoxicly, more regular rain would mean less floods.
@@panwp123 That might be true in West Texas but on the south east side of Texas, which is what I'm talking about, its wetlands bud. I think yall keep forgetting Texas is a big place and the whole state is not a desert.
When we talked about the civil war, all of the white kids argued with me that it wasn't about slavery. I constantly asked what other reasons but none of them gave me a clear answer. This video and countless others were right. In the end, its just about slavery. Mind you, I was the ONLY poc in my whole grade.
While slavery was a very compelling factor it wasn’t the only reason. Lincoln even proposed for the south that they could keep slaves till 1900 if they rejoined the Union. A lot of the reason for the war was because of economic issues and souths growing stubbornness towards the unions proposed ideas.
It wasn't about slavery at first until Europe wanted to join the southern states. Then Lincoln made it about slavery so they wouldn't intervene with the war since it would be for a "noble cause"
@@yeet5146 that's just provably wrong. The southern states STATED reasons why they left outlined slavery as their chief reason. Ignoring their constitution and secessionist speech is just ignorant
For the record, it bears keeping in mind, that prior to the civil war, allegiance was to your state first, union second. Which is why the civil war was such a divisive one. KB handwaving it away as totally being about slavery is ahistorical.
andrew hinson False. We know that the secession and the subsequent Civil War was about slavery because we have primary documents from the Confederate states where Confederate officials claim their secession was all about slavery.
it was 100% about slavery for those in power (Politicians) and those profitting (Business/ plantation owners) who happened to finance said politicians. But in regards to everyone else, its a lot easier to convince your average citizen to put their lives on the line for their homes rather than for an idea. Lee would've prioritised not seeing Virginia burnt to the ground well before any form of moral arguement.
@@Maka556 Sigh; it was about a State's right to have slavery. It was about enforcing the primacy of a State to decide its own laws. We see some of that today, with certain municipalities and States choosing to disregard certain Federal laws and to not cooperate with the Federal government on certain issues. It is interesting that those who support the assertion of local rights today (on issues such as illegal alien control and border security) inconsistently seem to be those who applaud the Federal government of 1860's suppression of State's Rights.
My high school history teacher adamantly insisted that the Civil War was NOT about slavery but about states rights. He’d have us repeat it after him a lot. Man I wish I could go back in time and call him out on his bs!
I'm three years late, so some ones probably already said this, but that quote from Lincoln about preserving the Union over Abolishing slavery is slightly out of context. It ends with Lincoln stating that he personally still wanted to abolish slavery but was putting the needs of the Union over his own beliefs(“I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free.”). Its less "Obama's Gonna Take Your Guns" and more on par with Obama's view of Same Sex Marriage, which in 2004 he claimed he was against it(because most of the voting base were homophobic, just like in the 1860s when almost everyone was racist) saying he favored stronger civil unions for Same Sex Couples. but he slowly changed his stated position over time until by 2015 he was fully openly in favor of Marriage Equality. That's still not a perfect comparison though.
0:45 you should read Jefferson’s correspondence with James Monroe. They hated the institution of slavery and thought of it as a rancid stain shackled to them for having been under the evils of the British empire.
In case anyone's wondering, Alexander Hamilton was the worst founding father. He was totally wack. Even the other founding fathers thought he was a jabroni.
Jefferson is a hypocrite. I get it's more complicated than that and that some people call it a duality of his character. But I don't buy that he hated slavery as much as he said he did.
@@GC-ps9mn Jefferson certainly didn't like slavery. He was a founding member of the Anti-Slavery Society. He is quoted as having said that "these people will be free". He also said (regarding slavery): "We have a wolf by the ears." But it is also accepted among historians that he would have fought for the South. The reason that he would have fought for the South is that he did not agree that the Federal Government had primacy in all matters and that the individual states had the right to nullify Federal laws as well as to secede from the Union. Madison (who knew the Constitution far better than Jefferson) recognized and stated that the Federal Government had such primacy. It's a shame that 600,000 people had to die to demonstrate Federal supremacy.
Texas: hey so remember that time we fought mexico so we could keep our slaves Union: mhm Texas: yeah we're gonna do that again edit: when you make a joke over a year ago and everyone is fighting over whether you are historically correct 😎
This comment section dude... we have the really defensive americans: "guys lets just forget about slavery" the angry republicans: "DEMOCRATS DID THE SLAVE TRADE AND STARTED THE KKK!!" random civ players: "using the civ icons is awesome!!" random southern haters: "the south still SUCKS!" the southerners: "man our barbeque is the best in the world" the people who actually seem smart: blah blah blah *random american history word that i dont know what means* blah blah & the one guy i found who was saying that we should have slaves today
LLT PB3 Gits and Shiggles Baby Feet On March 13, the Confederate Congress passed legislation to raise and enlist companies of black soldiers. The legislation was then promulgated into military policy by Davis in General Order No. 14 on March 23, 1865. “I have always been in favor of Emancipation”- Robert E Lee 70% of the Confederacy didn’t have slavery, the north had 5 slave states, and Grant was a slave owner. 9 pm
The beginning of your statement was a little outside of history. Several of the signers of the Constitution were anti slavery. Anti slavery was already an argument that many had been having since its introduction in the Americas. Please reexamine the viewpoints of the signers. George Washington, for example, was against slavery but also knew the Virginia laws prevented him from letting his go free; until he died. Which he did. Jefferson was too far in debt to do anything similar and Virginians had closed off the law. Adams, Franklin are two off the top of my head. My understanding is that nearly 75% were abolitionists. Just my two since. Enjoyed the rest.
Very true. I left a ton of comments debunking his gun control video. On this video, I'm not saying he's always wrong, but he oversimplifies a SHIT ton of history in both videos.
If you say you're against Slavery but keep slaves until you're dead, then you're FOR slavery. Just like today, actions speak louder than words. Much better to judge their actions and not words.
@@m2heavyindustries378 Since I assume you are talking about George Washington, the original post said: "The Virginia laws prevented him from letting his go free, until he died." I'm no expert historian by any means, just putting this here. Context matters, so try rereading the post, if you want.
Actually the real slave trade (importing from Africa) was very limited in the US at that time (and has always been), the real augmentation in numbers being rather from slaves children "harvesting", meaning slaves already in the US given birth to new generations of slaves.
I believe that in New England the sentiment was anti-slavery from the beginning. Also, people like William Penn and others were definitely morally against slavery. Let's give the U.S. credit where credit is due. I sense a little Presentism in Knowing Better's analysis.
Well, the South was born when the King of England gave large land grants in Va. to loyal Nobles, dispossessed from their estates in the civil wars. A army o veterans sent by Charles II These nobles needed serf's. The slave trade was a Royal monopoly. Slavery was illegal in "America". The Royal Governor provoked a rebellion, which was crushed by a army of veterans sent by the King. The Governor packed assembly, and rewrote slavery laws making black slaves for life, including their children. Some of the survivors were pushed west . (Start of the Western Movement:). Others moved to Mass.. The King traded muskets to Cherokees for Native American slaves ( a deal made at the point of a Tomahawk), He took them to Caribbean islands, and traded them for various things, mainly black slaves, which were then sold to the Nobles of New Carolina (later N.C. & S.C.)) & Virginia. And the South was born.
@@cambridge5770 At my home in TX we've grown black eyed peas, various types of squash, greens, okra, and tomatoes. On a commercial level though, Texans grow mostly grain and cotton.
Texas is third in Citrus fruit, In the top five in cotton, wheat, corn, peanuts etc...It's pretty easy to google it before you say stupid things though.
To simplistic. Abraham Lincoln was all over the record in primary sources stating how much he detested slavery. And the Slaves states knew this at the time. So while he said what he would and would not do during his campaign, the slave power didn't believe it and their fear and hard hardheadedness hastened slavery's demise.
He did, however, say that his personal views were not necessarily the same as his political views. As much as he hated slavery he was willing to maintain it if that would save the Union.
the victors get to rewrite history. People are only seen the worst parts of slavery and assume everyone is some evil white person with a whip. That simply isn't true.
The argument that it was inevitable is still a real historical argument, not influenced by the Lost Cause Myth. Basically, the South was always going to fight a war to keep their slaves once cotton became a viable cash crop.
@@emutv4100 You mean Texas... we have all that and more, and it's all BIGGER. NY is so puny. Texas is 6x bigger... So are the Men (I grew up up there[New England] so sort of j/k but not really)
As a Minnesotan I was kind of mad when you picked a picture without Minnesota in the blue. We literally have Virginia’s army’s flag in our capital. The 1st Minnesota fought from the battle of bull run all the way to Gettysburg. So from start to finish. Over 80% of the regiment died fighting in that damn war man!
James Orth Gits and Shiggles Baby Feet On March 13, the Confederate Congress passed legislation to raise and enlist companies of black soldiers. The legislation was then promulgated into military policy by Davis in General Order No. 14 on March 23, 1865. “I have always been in favor of Emancipation”- Robert E Lee 70% of the Confederacy didn’t have slavery, the north had 5 slave states, and Grant was a slave owner.
A bit disingenuous if one dismisses the conclusion in Abraham Lincoln's Letter to Horace Greeley, "I have here stated my purpose according to my view of OFICIAL duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed PERSONAL wish that all men everywhere could be free." (My emphasis).
@@malikanthony1149 To me it definitely sounds like he valued the country and his leadership more than the freedom of slaves although he valued both. Basically, if he was allowed to free the slaves with no consequences, just based on his personal, moral opinions he totally would, however it just isn't possible without compromising what he values more (the well-being of the country).
To quote my grandfather on the cause of the civil war. "The war was and wasn't about slavery. At its heart it was about slavery but if you were to go up to anyone during the war they would say its about keeping the southern states in the Union.
While it is true that Lincoln didn't outright say "I'm gonna ban slavery", he is famous for saying that the United States could not endure permanently half slave and half free, that someday it must become all slave or all free. And his stance on the expansion of slavery made it pretty clear which one he wanted. I doubt that, had the South not thrown a five year hissy fit, he would have been able to ban slavery, but he probably would have set the stage for more and more free states, which would have meant the loss of slave state power in the Senate.
Lincoln was a very complicated man. He understood how to get the job done, even if he had take backward steps to do it. He's also the only President to take direct fire from enemy troops while in office. They don't make them like that anymore.
@u wot m8 Completely disregarding you calling Liberia "a cannibal hellscape", imagine your family was captured 400 years ago, brought to a foreign land across the ocean, and forced to slave away for the rest of their days. Between the first generation of your family that lived in America and the current generation that was freed, you lost everything culturally that would have been passed down, you were never taught how to read or write, and the only skill set you were given was to farm a specific crop. At this point, you have no connection to your motherland, no money, and no means to travel to another country. Would you migrate to your mother country, which you probably don't even know the name of? Especially since some random European decided to claim and rename your home?
So Lincoln died and slavery is still here. It is now the white, black, yellow , red , green , purple , grey people working to feed the none working class . I bet Lincoln did not think about that .
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Your encouraging words are always welcome :) My videos are definitely monetized - at least until TH-cam strips it for whatever reason, which they've done to me on occasion. The option to have unskippable ads is only available if you're part of an MCN, which I am not.
I agree! you need way more subs! whenever I see a video from you I'm so happy since I learn something new and your content is super entertaining. I wish more people could find out about you some how.
The expression "being sold south" is derived from the transition from tobacco farming in Virginia to cotton production in the Deep South - Alabama, Mississippi as this new product became the indisputable cash crop of the later Confederacy. As a side note there were also slaves involved in the production of rice in Louisiana. When the soil in Virginia became more unwieldy due to tobacco's nitrate depleting properties, many slave owners found the best way to cut their losses was to sell their slaves to planters in the Deep South. Good video! The Lost Cause is more of a historical revisionist fable offered by ex-Confed folks like Jeff Davis and Jubal Early. The South was in a state of collective mourning and wanted a way to justify the suffering and hardship it underwent because of the conflict. I tend to look at the plight of the Confederate soldier in Marxist terms - after the 1862 Conscription Act, which exempted slaveowners with 20+ slaves, while conscripting those w/o it becomes abundantly clear, who was fighting for whom. Rich man's war, poor man's fight. That being said, the individual soldiers largely didn't think they were fighting for the preservation of Southern aristocrats' wealth. Even Jubal Early, originally a staunch Unionist, didn't take up arms with the Confederacy until Lincoln's call for 75,000 volunteered to quell the rebellion. This also prompted Virginia's secession.
We didn't start a war with Great Britain. We went to war in response to the impressment of our citizens by the British navy, among other reasons. It wasn't like we woke up one day and said, "Let's start a war with our biggest trading partner who also just happens to have the biggest navy and the strongest professional army in the world."
Not the strongest army that was france, the biggest navy. And most people don't know that the royal navy attacked a US warship killing several sailors.
no that is not true, the real motivation was the British tax on the colonys to pay for the standing army to protect the slave holders from the wrath of the enslaved, read 1776 the counter revolution and slave resistance by Dr. Gerald Horne
It's kind of ironic how the southern states suddenly embracing slavery as their industrial labor eventually doomed the Confederacy to certain failure because it just couldn't fight a war with the industrially competitive northern states.
I still think the Civil War was inevitable, but not because of the Lost Cause myth. From the moment the founders set up a country that claimed to be free but allowed slavery, there was always going to be a fight over it. The ownership class was never going to give up their slaves while there was still a chance for profit. They were always going to fight for the right to own people, whether they kept them working in the fields or they industrialized and sent them into the factories, as we saw on a smaller scale in Germany during World War 2.
_"From the moment the founders set up a country that claimed to be free but allowed slavery, there was always going to be a fight over it."_ Yes, I agree. Clearly, the united colonies' determination to be rid of Britain was their priority; the decision was taken to "not sweat the details" until after their common enemy was defeated. In hindsight, though, it's obvious that slavery was a fault line in the nation's foundation that would eventually erupt with catastrophic consequences.
Oh they definitely knew it was going to be a problem eventually but they figured it they didn’t want to weaken the new country with Britain still breathing down their neck and shoved it to be something to worry about later
Abe Lincoln's number one priority was preserving the nation. He was correct. When he attempted to unilaterally legislate things like freeing slaves...he paid for it quite dearly.
Technically the etymology of the state of Maine is unknown but officially according to the state of Maine it is named after the historical province in northwest France that was also named Maine.
If you start digging you find all these other reasons, beside slavory that the Civil War was fought... all of which, if you follow, quickly lead back to the issue of slavory.
Whenever I hear that the Civil War was fought over "states' rights", I always counter with something I heard from John Greene: "Oh yeah? A State's right to do what?"
Man as a self described “addict for context” especially when discussing historical events, your channel has been one of my favorites finds in years. It’s always amazing how much truly is revealed when you just establish the REALITY of an event and not spewing the same narrative every time. For my own context I am very far left, a dirty dirty sjw and I have very deep respect for this guy’s content
I have no idea why I wrote that. Was there another comment that was deleted or something? Lol. Btw Carly, I like this guy's content too and most people would probably describe me a left leaning too but some of what he says isn't very, left. Did you see his defense of Christopher Columbus for example? I mean, I guess that shouldn't technically be a left or right issue since we're just talking about the facts but a lot of people see it that way. I'm of the opinion that one should first and foremost go with the facts or the science. I don't believe in climate change because I'm on the left. I believe in it because that's what the science suggests. Which, incidentally, is true of maybe 90% of the left's positions but not all of it.
@@PaulTheSkeptic People think being a decent human being is now a political stance so I'm not surprised that they'd think everything he says is left leaning because they disagree with him.
@@ADreamingTraveler Lol. A lot of channels take shit from both sides. Counter Arguments released a video talking about some of his comments and some of them were like "You're obviously biased toward the right." and others were like "You're obviously biased toward the left." Lol.
Mexico abolished slavery sometime in the early 1800s. Texas was a part of Mexico at that time and yes the slave owners in Texas did not want lose their slaves. So they seceded from Mexico and became a member of the United States.
Anthony Gallardo most of does gangs are Central American gangs , like Salvador or Honduras , heck what about all the African Americans that are in gangs even white ppl have there gangs or "organizations" , not saying that Mexicans don’t , but that everyone does
@@anthonygallardo8377 LMFAO!!!!!! The Mexicans left their own damn country in droves because the USA treated them better. Now Central Americans are following the same trend. The USA treats immigrants so fucking well that a significant chunk of the citizenry wants a border wall to slow down the flood of imposing migrants looking for better treatment. Don't ever accuse the USA of treating people of color poorly, when we put them on such a gold pedestal that they refuse to stop coming into our country!
I’m from Michigan and when I went down to Tennessee for a bit I was kinda shocked at the abundance of Confederate and border line racist iconography. The scar of the confederacy, racism, and Jim Crow are still there and I almost felt like I was in a different country. For crying out loud on the state border there is an American flag waving on a proud and tall poll and right next to it, at the same level, implying it’s equal standing to the stars and stripes, was a confederate flag. I’m really not trying to alienate or make fun of anyone from there but it’s sad to see the scars still there hundreds of years later. Some things never change.
The fact I don't hate racists at all. Only the alt left. They pretend to care then stab you in the back like a cult. Nah fam, you hate or like me but never use me or betray my trust. 😌👌
Knowing Better: "They were used for one crop, and it's not the crop you're thinking of..." Me: "So not tobacco?" Knowing Better: "It was tobacco. The crop you were thinking of was cotton." Me: "..."
Lincoln's election actually was a big deciding factor for the start of the Civil War. Though it is true he didn't run on an abolitionist platform, he and his party did run on a platform that vehemently resisted any further expansion of slavery into the territories. As you said, the South could not stand for this as it would mean a quicker death for slavery, so this was translated through Southerner propaganda as "Lincoln is an abolitionists who wants to take away all your slaves and cause race war/mixing." Several secessionist documents cite Lincoln's election as a "final straw" of sorts proving that the North was against slavery and their way of life.
Nope. The Morrill Tariff passed AFTER several southern states seceded. Had they not seceded, they easily had enough voting power to defeat the bill. That tariff is almost never cited in secessionist documents, but it's hard to find one that _doesn't_ talk about slavery.
if the north was against slavery then how come it to longer forbthe north to give up savery compare to the south who was already giving up slavery little by little way before the war even started and why did abraham lincoln owned his own slaves as well as the rest of the north had also owned slaves before and after the war. abraham lincoln had it in his own written documents where he even supported slavery thenbis a proven fact that the north is trying to hid the war was never about slavery but about the north was wanting to over taxing the south and make it a one government nation where the south wanted their own government. ibreally which history books and the north stop their lies when it comes to yhe history of the civil war as the south was alreadydoin' away with slavery way before the war as their was tons of free saves owning land in the south as well way before the war even started. and besides only 2% of southernersbevwn owned slaves compare the the higher % in the north that owned slaves.
+Indigenous European Lol literally everything in that horribly composed, spelling and grammatically atrocious rant is patently false. What “history books” taught you that drek? The closest thing to true you eluded to was Lincoln on slavery, in that he was willing to tolerate it where it already was to prevent secession. However the South wanted a guarantee for it to _expand_ into the territories, which the Republicans, as per their party platform, would not allow. But why am I telling you this? You will only default to the Southernpride.com forum post -drivel- “history” that you already spouted.
@@Zarastro54 nothing i said was false but facts i done deep researchbon this i evenbread somebold documents thay been written by abraham him self which isnt hard to find living in denial will only make u ignorant to the truth and this is the internet no need to make your comments perfect this isnt a school test. so being a keyboard warrior only makes one own self look like an ass as if i want my spelling and comments to be perfect i'll go to a fucking business place.
@@rickrolld1367 😂😂😂 I love that, I need to make an edit of the Darth Maul fight where he ignites the second half of a snowflake lightsaber and cuts himself in half 😂😂
It's named Maine for the reason stated in the video. (Fun fact: It was originally called "The Province of New Somersetshire", I wonder why that didn't stick?)
Slavery & racism is so deeply rooted in this country Idk if it's effects will ever be totally diminished. It's a disease passed down through generations
I can tell you for a fact that racism was not everywhere though, even decades ago. My father grew up in a 1950s-60s Iowa farming town, and believe it or not, they had a minority race preacher from India at his family's Methodist church for a few years! The only racism my father saw him receive was when an out of state kid called him a slur when they were attending some multistate convention, which shocked him and the local kids. Iowa had integrated public schools since 1868 and a law banning discrimination in public accommodations from 1884 onward. The University of Iowa actually stopped playing the University of Missouri in football for over 100 years because in the early 20th Century they (Missouri) would not stop targeting the black players on their integrated teams (the team and students were FURIOUS from what I've read). There were a few a-holes and a couple bad towns, but Iowa was historically known for being remarkably progressive on racial stuff. Is the legacy of racism a problem in America? Yes, in some parts of the country, but I think we have made significant progress. The healing journey will take some more time though.
There's no such thing as "the right side of history." That's just a lame argument for people who want to make their points of view look like they were inevitable the whole time. It's the logical equivalent of saying "God's on my side, so I must be right!", with only the word "history" substituted for God.
@@lanehealystpierre8852 That's simply not true; every country has had slaves, and there are still countries using them. The African slaves were sold to America by other Africans, but somehow they were the lucky ones to be set free from the continent. If it weren't for slavery in America, there would be a significantly smaller population of African Americans living here today. Stop swallowing the blue pills.
@@lanehealystpierre8852 "Enslaving a group of people is the wrong side of history." I'm saying that that statement is goofy, and that Africans were better off as slaves in America than in Africa. Also, that all men are NOT created equal, only given equal rights. Edit: Albert Einstein is not equal to Lebron James.
When Mexico obtained its freedom from Spain (finalized in 1821), slavery was already abolished. So I can imagine California didn’t really want to become a slave state when slavery had already been gone for a generation
And to this day black people still use this to defend themselves even though the have nothing to do with it. So disrespectful that you use your ancestors suffering for your own good.
Huh? The history of U.S. slavery has "nothing to do" with Black people today??? I have quite a few Jewish friends that -if you told them, "The holocaust has 'nothing to do with you today' would give you an earful.. and a couple Irish friends in Boston who -if you said, "Indentured servitude has nothing to do with you"- might wanna knock your teeth out.' Personally, I'm nearly 7O years old and my great-grandfather was a slave in service to this country, so I politely suggest that you take you shitty attitude and stick it. The U.S.A. needs to deal with this head on before it can advance, or it'll keep coming back to bite it's ass (in many ways), ad infinitum (or just, finally right out admit with a Congressional proclamation that we - a country of immigrants - don't really want ANYone else except lily-whiteans on U.S. soil.. and see how THAT goes). It's our idiotic American lack of appreciating the timeline (we think that 150 years is a "long time ago") that is one of the roots of the problem... as well as slavery being an unresolved issue right at our country's inception, when the Constitution was written .. Essentially then, our foundation is rotten and we keep ignoring it, thanks to thinking such as yours. You can't fix something that you don't recognize as being broke.
@@louisbouche2987 Don't compromise, these people can't wait until the white race is a minority and they can literally enslave us right back. It's going to cause another civil war, just watch
The irony of California not being a slave state is this: California today grows cotton and rice. These are crops that used slave labor back during slavery days. Rice growing got its start in California during the Gold Rush, but it was by Chinese laborers, for their own consumption. Commercial rice growing didn't take place in California until 1912. Cotton was also grown in California, but like rice, commercial production took off during the 20th century instead of prior.
I do love having the argument with people over states rights yes that state's right to own other human beings. I don't understand the lack of sympathy in people who have this mindset what does it matter what the war was fought over. slavery is over now isn't that better for everyone, I certainly don't want to be property.
@@colonnadesecurity3136 The baby is only 1/2 her DNA... It's another unique human being, just like slavery. Her 3 "choices" are abstinence, adoption, or mother.
Griffin Bailey sorry, I’ve heard it’s milkweed. I really apologize for my assumption/jump to conclusions I have now learned it isn’t. Most say it’s milkweed as I’ve stated earlier
Waffle Nixon no problem, there are cotton farms all around me. So I see it on a daily basis... if you google “cotton” and look at images you can see what it looks like
People committed to the lost cause understanding of the Civil War are simply living in alternate reality. I encountered someone praising Robert E Lee as actually an anti slavery abolitionist and I pointed out Lee's quote that slaves' "painful discipline they are undergoing is necessary." I asked, are these the words of an abolitionist? His completely serious response - yes. Can't do anything at that point.
It's common practice to color slave states as red. Google "map of civil war" you'll see hundreds of people doing the same - I didn't do this as some dumb political party smear.
I'm not even gonna read the comments section since I'm sure it's full of rascist bullcrap. Good video. 👍
You know that the south was democrat right and the north was republican. Lincoln was a republican you should fix your map.
@@purplenurp5590 yes and the south is republican today. Are you trying to point out that southerners betrayed their ancestors of the civil war?
I knew that tobacco was the main crop used by slavery until Eli Whitney developed the cotton gin, and my two sources of knowledge for that one is living in Tennessee and having done a report and wax museum project in 5th grade and I chose him. I'm actually pretty damn proud I knew that.
It's only "ever-lasting" you allow it to. You think the US was the only country that every had a slave trade? Brazil didn't abolish slavery until the 1870s, and Arabs have a term for Blacks that is the same as the word "slave". In fact, slavery STILL exist in parts of the Middle East, and yet I don't see a video on THAT.
As someone who has actually “picked” cotton by hand, I live in Texas, and cotton is still grown here in mass, it is actually very painful and difficult to do without gloves.
You tried doing a couple by hand just to see?
Damn
@@pugasaurusrex8253 Yeah didn’t really work out. 0/10 would not recommend, I was picking splinters and shit out my fingers the rest of the day.
Sores, cuts, blisters, the works.
i lived in alabama and we lived near cottonfields. Once we rode our bikes and went and picked whole t-shirt full of cotton. We were going to sell the cotton we stole from a farm...by the end of the long dirt road..we dumped it as it became to bothersome to keep riding home with it..LOL Those were the days.. bmx bikes on old dirt roads..not a person in sight for literally miles...a car might drive by once every 4-5 hours..
its grow in Massachusetts?
"They were used for one crop."
Tobacco?
"And it's not what you're thinking of"
oh, then cotton?
"Its tobacco."
No growing Stuff or primitive capitalism
I gueesed sugar
@@CcReap3r Yea I got confused at the end there. He basically said the civil war was over slavery. I find it very unlikely that people in the north would want to fight in a war where they would likely die over an issue they would have seen as trivial.
@@CcReap3r Lots of people today want to say it was the defacto reason that the civil war happened. I don't buy it.
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Eli Whitney: With this revolutionary invention we will never need to use slavery ever again.
*Slavery increases*
Eli Whitney: Am I a joke to you.
"Slavery intensifies" could've been better.
slavery would have died out over time. robots would take there place. like the robots that make cars,
When you think humanity cant disappoint you any more, it will
Inventor, not an economist. Some similarities to ya boi Tesla there.
Joke was funny... but jokes aside he probably didn't intend to perpetuate slavery, quite the opposite.
But that's what technology does, it enables people to do good and bad things. Another example is guns, sure they can protect us or kill us. I'm pretty sure Henry Ford who invented the mass production of automobiles didn't intened to cause millions of car crashes and consequently deaths, but it just happened anyway. ;)
"the civil war was about states' rights!"
*states' right to do what exactly*
States' rights is about the separation of power between the US (federal) government and the individual states. The US founders debated the issue, and ended up with the amendments that specify what powers belong to the US government and what powers belong to the individual states.
Over taxation was the main reason for the declaration of succession.
@@chopperman8042 Nope. The main reason was slavery. As it is outlined by the "Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union" and every single other official document.
Slavery while morally wrong was a right of the states at the time so the war really was over states rights lol
Chopper Man even the confederates said it was about slavery you buffoon. GTFO
Yes, I do stare at maps. I think it's a serious problem, but I do it.
Same
All the time.
Mr. Beat they turn me on
I lick maps.
same
Eli Whitney was actually anti slavery, he thought that his invention would limit the need for slaves. Boy was he wrong
@Random Animations Yeah life goes on man, can't be worrying about that shit.
Eli Whitney was extremely white. Not even one drop of black
This video is so condescending. He talks like he's talking to a 5 year old or a golden retriever. Yes i know all this.
The real reason slavery wasn't addressed at the founding of America is because they already had an unwinnable war against the British they didn't need to fight a war over slavery at the same time.
To say that slavery was going to die out on its own is a rationalization. One war at a time. To take on the British and slavery at the same time would have been insane. We'd be talking about the crazy British colonists who all got executed.
Albert Einstein was opposed to war and despised soldiers and armies. And finally cooperated in the invention of the nuke.
If you actually take the time to read up on the economics surrounding the slave trade, capitalism was indeed forcing out the actual "need" for slaves. Here's a quick run down.
1. Automation did render slaves more costly. You had to feed them, shelter them, and treat them for any illnesses or injuries, else you don't have cost effective labor to begin with. Any plantation owner that valued profit over any inherent prejudices were going to make use of such technologies to save them money and churn out more product.
2. Slaves were constantly trying to flee. This is the reason for laws enacted in northern states requiring that escaped slaves were to be captured and returned. Slavery was effectively being subsidized by tax payer dollars. The system was on its last legs.
3. The central issue regarding slavery was actually not economic. The point of debate was a social one. Would it be okay to let a group of people freely roam society that were only a few generations removed from total savagery, who mostly didn't even know how to read or write, and would most certainly harbor a justifiable grudge against that society for keeping them in shackles for hundreds of years? Lincoln was actually planning on deporting all the slaves to Haiti over this very concern after the ratification of the 13th amendment. Even the often cited speech by Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens hinges on this very notion: that the slaves were where they belonged. Nothing at all to do with the economics.
*says slaves were only used for one thing*
me thinking: "hmm probably tobacco"
video: "not what you're thinking"
me: "hmm, maybe cotton then i guess"
video: "Tobacco"
me: -_-
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I live in pa so all we learn about was tobacco so I was so confused
I'm never understood the difference between fighting to "preserve slavery" and fighting to preserve a state's right to "preserve slavery."
That was the Daughters of the Confederacy rhetoric to try to make the Civil War seem more...noble. Conservatives latched onto that because they knew it made the Civil War idea tip in their favor.
Spining ideas basically. Conservatives ALWAYS have to do that rather than face the facts, their ideas are bad
The later seems to highlight autonomy as the focus implying the states consent is necessary to institute significant changes while the former focuses on refusing to change with the times and evolve from the archaic systems of slavery
I never understood how all depictions of slavery is bad.....when so many of us have never been slaves 😂✌️
@@Macheako I’m not understanding what you’re saying. Are you implying that no one today can think slavery was evil bc we ourselves weren’t slaves?
@@TheBestEverGMG yeah that confuses me too.
I'm from TN and a conservative (apparently that matters) and I've always hated the idea of slavery yet I've never been a slave
“In 1837, Arkansas and Michigan were added. Whatever”
Angry Michigander noises
*Arkansas and Michigan noises intensifies*
Michigan actually played a huge part in the war tho
Yeah i live near a portal of the underground railroad
People don't seem to remember that the original Michigan Militia was dispatched throughout the Old Northwest to put down slavery and lynching gangs even prior to statehood. Michigan's Iowa County (now the State of Iowa) was constantly being occupied by slavers who came into towns to take them over. Iowa had slavery-friendly leanings going back to old man Dubuque who had notoriously enslaved natives to work his lead mines. He even had men in hiding set off Chinese fireworks on cue to enforce his claims of godhood to the gullible local tribes.
My great great great grandfather was in the MI Calvary
the saddest thing about the cotton gin is that as far as I can tell, Eli Whitney intended it to end slavery- he thought if you could make a lot more shirts with a lot less labour, you could hire less people (less slaves, no slaves)
No, I somehow doubt Whitney believed that.
It's really fascinating how one simple invention was able to extend Slavery's lifespan so much. By all accounts the civil war had zero reason to actually happen, but one invention made slavery economically important enough to bring the US to that point.
Not only that but the inventor of the cotton gin (Eli Whitney) believed his invention would reduce the need for slaves and eventually faze the practice out entirely. Of course that part back fired.
@Mr. Miyagi yea, when all the pro slaver conservatives keep voting twice you know sherman didn't do enough
Never underestimate the will of racists to maintain their racism. Once slavery was abolished, Southern whites quickly enacted Slavery II, also called Segregation and Jim Crow. Now we're experiencing Slavery III, where undocumented immigrants are allowed to work for low wages without legal protection, minority voters are frequently disenfranchised with tainted "election integrity" laws, for-profit prisons have two million people incarcerated, and a militarized police force used to terrorize anybody who isn't rich and white.
wait is this is capitalisms fault again?
@@thetoxicshaman as all things are
As an Australian, I used to think that we had our own slavery system in the form of convicts. They provided the labor needed to do the backbreaking work of carving out the colonies here (except in the 'free-settled' colonies). However, they were most often freed after a few years, given a grant of land and provided an instant bonus white settler for the Empire. US slavery was far more evil as an African slave could not only look forward to spending the rest of his/her life a slave, but also their children for all their lives. Terrible. Convicts had it easy by comparison and often ended up having a better life here than back in England..
Precisely why it is important to learn from our past actions, so we never repeat them. By the way, thank you for sharing some of your history, as I really love learning about it (especially military history).
Nobody:
Not one person on this thread:
Some random Australian: "My slavery was better than your slavery."
Paul Wember Agreed! Is this Australian really that confused?
In Australia we enslaved First Nations people. We have no reason to judge other countries based on our record.
@@gusto8069 Dont forget the Portuguese fort built on the gold coast in 1480s to facilitate their slave trade. They were the first to bring them to the new word. Islamic slave trade much worse, as many as 18 million enslaved Africans. Sad!
It's not particularly accurate to say that Lincoln didn't want to free the slaves. Although he was willing to keep it around if he believed it would preserve the union, he often stated that his personal belief was that slavery was immoral. He signed off the letter that you quoted with this: "I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free."
Also, Lincoln's views on slavery don't change the fact that secession was a direct response to his election. Regardless of his beliefs or actions, the South was seeing the first election in a generation in which the President-elect was not a Southern slaveholder. Secession was as much a response to Lincoln himself as it was to what he represented: the first time that the northern population had grown enough to put a northern president in the White House. Whether it was Lincoln or the next president, the southern states knew that slavery's time was limited if they remained in the union.
@@HerewardWake I'm not sure what that has to do with what I wrote.
@@HerewardWake Except you didn't. You stated that Lincoln was willing to allow slavery to continue if it kept the United States together (or "for political gain" as you misconstrue it), which I stated myself before you came along. You _stated_, without evidence, that Lincoln hated blacks, which, true or not, wouldn't change his attitude towards slavery as a concept. And you certainly gave no evidence to refute Lincoln's own words that he wished "all men everywhere to be free."
So what did you actually do? You stated some things without evidence, committing at least one historical error (Lincoln never "outlawed [slavery] in new states." He emancipated slaves in rebelling states, but passed no law regarding new states.). You rephrased history in the standard language of the Lost Cause narrative, portraying Lincoln as a power-hungry man without principles and the South as the "Last Stand" against tyranny. And then you thought you had somehow _shown_ that Lincoln didn't mind slavery, an idea completely contrary to historical record.
But if you think you can find some actual evidence, be my guest.
@@HerewardWake "I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed *personal wish that all men everywhere could be free.*" Abraham Lincoln, August 22, 1862.
It's literally in the same letter. You've again shown what I already agreed to, multiple times, which is that "he was willing to keep [slavery] around if he believed it would preserve the union." You have yet to show that he didn't think it was immoral. You won't, of course:
Lincoln wrote that the 'only substantial difference' between North and South was that "You think slavery is right and ought to be extended; *we think it is wrong* and ought to be restricted."
In a letter to Joshua Speed: "You know *I dislike slavery*; and you fully admit the *abstract wrong* of it."
"I hate it because of the *monstrous injustice of slavery itself.*"
But if you can find a quote where he says "I'm totally cool with slavery." rather than "I'm willing to accept it to prevent civil war," please do.
@@HerewardWake You Lie. Badly. No place has Lincoln ever said this. His empathy for the slave was his reason for detesting slavery. You are projecting. You are full of shit and you have no proof of your lies. Zero.
@@carterfogelman4613 arronison is writing fiction. ( day of the kkk )
Dixie: "We were fighting for our freedoms!"
Yankee: "What freedoms?"
Dixie: "To govern ourselves!"
Yankee: "Does the mean the slaves get to govern themselves?"
Dixie: "You're trying to trick me!"
It's hilarious when slave owners try to pull the "but muh freedoms!" argument. Even the proud boys keep to that and insist they were the victims.
Yep, and they STILL vote Democrat......dumb
Just like when the US fought to govern itself apart from Britain but that didn't include slaves?
It's funny how everyone practised slavery everywhere, at almost all points in history, and the only reason the north wanted to end it is because they wanted more jobs for working class white people, not because they cared about ending slavery as a concept. Lol
@@AverageAlien Some people never learn..:/ Great fact check
@@AverageAlien Mostly bc it was cutting into the profits of the capitalists, but also, yes
People don’t outlaw things because they’re simply “not profitable”
American abolitionism is older than the nation itself, it just didn’t have the power to institute its ideas early on
Also Lincoln was a staunch abolitionist his whole life, he just cared more about not dividing America than his personal goal of abolition.
Cared so much he started the Civil War....
@@Macheako Exactly. When the southern states seceded he fought a war to bring them back
@@rellek4053 The actions of a Tyrant if I ever heard of one.....remember how we were treated the FIRST TIME we "Asked To Leave"......
it's always the same bs.
@@rellek4053 the only good thing Lincoln did was free the slaves, everything else was j tyrannical and he massively expanded the power and scope of the federal government, many of the thing he created a precedent for are the same things being used by the government to be j as tyrannical as Lincoln
@@Kozycz so tyrannical that Congress approved everything he passed. Lol
Why do the walls in the background look like he's in prison 😂
Werner van der Kroft typical college dorm room walls. Maybe he’s in graduate school as he does not look young enough to be an undergraduate student.
His presentation is rather imprisoned in bad history.
cinder block concrete walls for sure
@@degrelleholt6314 should we not learn about it?
Looks like section 8 housing in AZ.
I mean it was about states rights, states right to own slaves
and its morally wrong
@@jurtra9090 I didn't say it wasn't
@@jurtra9090 It's morally wrong now....it was accepted practice through most of human history. Looking back it's easy to judge people for their mistakes. But those are the people that actually did something about it. If you grew up in an environment where XYZ was accepted, you would also think that XYZ is ok. People don't want to accept that, but it's the truth.
States rights was a far more prevalent belief before the Civil War. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively". That's the 10th Amendment (1791). The 13th Amendment (1865) abolished slavery. Civil War started in 1861 for reference. People today don't care about states rights, and I believe that is the direct result of the North winning the Civil War. Had the South won, who knows how things would be. I believe slavery would have eventually been abolished because that was the ethical trend of the civilized nations, and the industrial revolution sealed the deal of the elimination of menial physical labor. But the concept of states rights would probably be far more integrated into our culture than it is today (less and less as each new generation comes along).
@@Surannhealz, the argument I make is that slavery was a direct violation of natural rights. Thus, the federal government had the authority to intervene. It isn't like the issue was owning more than a certain number of horses or some shit, it was owning humans
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slaves were used for one crop and it's not the one your thinking of
me - tabbacco
it was tabbacco
Rice in South Carolina also
I guessed tobacco as well, but only because I drive by the tobacco fields every day.
No...I guessed Newports.
bolo4104 I had an amazing american history teacher. He was an actual genius
I went with sugar. So I was technically correct, and as we all know, that's the best kind of correct.
Southern States: States need the right to be create their own laws free from the federal government!
Northern States: Okay, we’re going to create laws to protect escaped slaves.
Southern States: NO NOT LIKE THAT
Well it's stolen r l property they have to return it
@@teacopemLiving, breathing, people are property?
@@teacopembro take your racism somewhere else.
A small error: In the 1848 map, you show all of Arizona and New Mexico as part of the Union, however the US only made the Gadsden Purchase in 1853.
kirbycide Gadsden Purchase was a tiny piece of land tho
kirbycide Gits and Shiggles Baby Feet On March 13, the Confederate Congress passed legislation to raise and enlist companies of black soldiers. The legislation was then promulgated into military policy by Davis in General Order No. 14 on March 23, 1865.
“I have always been in favor of Emancipation”- Robert E Lee
70% of the Confederacy didn’t have slavery, the north had 5 slave states, and Grant was a slave owner.
@@SouthernGentleman ok boomer
Wildfire I’m 23. You should learn.
Wildfire Thousands of blacks fought for the Confederacy like black Confederate sailor W. S Lewis from CSS Alabama, Cuban Woman Loretta Velasquez dressed as a man to fight for the Confederacy, Cherokee and Choctaw tribes fought for the Confederacy. The last Confederate General to stop fighting was Cherokee General Stand Watie. 10,000 Jews fought for the Confederacy, like Moses Ezekiel. 13,000 Hispanics and 3,000 Mexican-Texans fought for the Confederacy as well, like Santos Benavides. Hundreds of Asians fought for the Confederacy like Charles Chon.
I had a friend in high school who loved maps. Whenever he saw one he had to physically turn his head away. He also loved to freehand draw entire maps from memory. Recently he did the whole world on a balloon in permanent marker.
Pass the dutchie my friend!
Thank you Weston Welch, very cool!
The Civil War was fought over State's Rights. The State's Right to own slaves.
Northern state land owners also had slaves, they were fighting to place tariffs on southern states, and place taxes onto them. Slavery was something tossed in to add onto their reasons for a war with the south after they broke off. Hell, slavery was about to die due to it being less profitable then other methods of cotton and tobacco farming.
Keep believing in your War of Northern Aggression. The south will always be those plucky rebels against yankee elitism.
No man .... State Rights is a check on goverment ..... made by founding fathers... Slavery came from Africa...... Learn real USA history not communist make belive history ......
@skriller bee And this fact has little to do with what the Civil War was or was not fought over.
It's true that slavery's been around (that we know of) since Babylon. Every ancient wonder you can name was only made possible through the blood and sweat of forced labor. Even the concept of slave trade, of one group of people farming another to export as slaves to a third party wasn't new when the West African Slave Trade got started. And it's also true that that particular Slave Trade wouldn't have been possible without nonwhite slavers taking people in West Africa.
But none of that excuses how we Euro-Americans let that play into our Colonialism and sense of Manifest Destiny. It doesn't excuse us legally defining Africans first as 3/5 of a person and then as property.
There were a lot of northern religious groups that fought against slavery on moral grounds. Their reasons were not economic.
Even then they weren't exactly anti-racist.
When I heard it the first time, I misheard the "Missouri compromise" as "misery compromise".
I found that an appropriate name.
I always felt their tourism slogan should be "Missouri Loves Company."
@@timmmahhhh Lol. :D
Most of the people in Missouri pronounce it Misery. I'm from Ohio, I always thought it was pronounced Miss ur e. Started driving a truck, and once you get out west or in the state the various midwest accents start taking over, but most people pronounce it Misery. Blew my mind. Lol.
@@steveawesome9538 o once heard a native pronounce it miZURruh which was somewhat like misery...
That’s what is sure sounds like was the at real name hummm use google translate
You lie, tobacco is what I was thinking...
Sugar grows very well in Louisiana and parts of Florida.
David Sincere sugar aint profitable for slaves tho
Well you have a Merry Christmas!
Nah, *kudzu* grows well in Florida. 😛 But seriously, sugarcane needs tropical temperatures. Most of Florida isn't warm enough year-round. South Florida does have a large sugarcane industry. But Florida is better known for citrus and various fruits like tomatoes, strawberries, and watermelons. Historically, it seems citrus, tobacco, lumber, turpentine, and cattle were important industries.
In florida and part of lousiana actually and by the way sugar was first cultivated in a tropical-monsoon climate and since the southern third of florida is classified as tropical-monsoon climate that is the best place in continental america for sugar to grow the southern tenth of texas also operates in the same way but that part is to dry to be considered tropical-monsoon climate those two parts of continental america are best suited for tropical food alongside americas oversees possessions which are not antarctica louisiana does not have a single acre of vaguely tropical land while arizona and the southern half of california has exceptional land for desert crops so if it is possible to grow sugar in louisiana it will be one, poor crop
@@eklectiktoni Citrus was also first cultivated in tropical-monsoon climate which the southern-third of florida also has
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Hello! Hi! My grandfather and Uncle actually are Cotton and Peanut farmers. I just wanted to say that yes, cotton even now isn’t a very profitable crop.
I’m not sure why I wanted to say this, but I did
it was profitable then, read " Empire of cotton"
5:55 Aranksas and Michigan were added to the Union. Whatever
Native Americans: oof
democrats did trail of tears
@@raymondflores5176 I think it's unhealthy for your first instinct to be "lets blame my enemy". Also, it's pretty useless to point out because a term referring to a group back then refers to an entirely different set of people than it refers to today.
@@euc5957 not really POC are locked up/jailed daily in blue cities and just in the 90s not long ago bernie was as racist as biden but u ignore it
@@raymondflores5176 Quit using crack
@@raymondflores5176 source please
Anyone: the civil war was about states rights
Yeh uh... states rights to keep slavery
I heard that before
the soulth: okay listen up boys, those yankees over there, they think we don't have the right to take other pepole as slaves. Everyone has rights! unless we take them as slaves, than they don't. But we have rights!
@goodbyehoes Are you defending slavery in Africa? Real compassionate.
Yeh uh... If it isn't the "Lost Cause Myth" mantra once again, as referred to in this video, that magic phrase repeated ad nauseam these days by apologists for the Union, an invocation that is supposed to end all arguments as to the "true" cause of the Civil War, and to determine just who the "good guys" and the "bad guys" were in the conflict. History as propaganda in streamlined black and white, without the confusing shades of gray. Kind of like "abracadabra", for people who are weak on critical thinking and debate skills. The trouble is, the magic only works on those who resort to it. People of intelligence know that (a) the overwhelming majority of the population in the South did not own slaves (rich plantation owners were about the only ones who could afford them and for which slavery was profitable) and (b) the average enlistee in the Confederate army joined to protect his family and meager possessions from an impending Northern invasion being plotted solely to preserve the Union for the benefit of the Northern oligarchy. But don't let the truth impinge upon your retro moralistic fervor, historical revisionism and magical thinking. Click your ruby slippers together and repeat "The Union fought to free the slaves" over and over again until you make it so.
brutalyzedbytv Yes I would agree that most southerners didn’t own slaves, however this does not excuse their support of the side that was pushing for its expansion. That logic is like saying that the nazi soldiers were justified fighting for nazis just to defend their country from America (I understand the nazis are nothing like the confederates, just a logic comparison). I get that most people don’t want to understand the grey area within the civil war as well, but it really was a result of the country’s inability to deal with slavery expansion.
"In 1837, Arkansas and Michigan were added. Whatever."
😭😂😂
Brother that's my home state.
Liberty Bell Ringing feels bad
Well, at least they got mention, my home state of Minnesota fought on the side of the Union, he didn't mention it, maybe due to the timeline, we had only just become a state a few years prior to the civil war, then ended up fighting two wars right after the birth of our state, the civil war and the Dakota war going on at the same time.
A lot of sass in this video lol
West Virginia is shown as a state long before 1863 when it was created out of Virginia. Also, WV was not a slave state nor did its citizens side with the Confederacy during the Civil War. It was split off from Virginia in 1863, when the people of this area went against the state of Virginia and refused to side with the South. It was never a "red" state or a slave state that sided with the US.
I love how ur using the Civilization VI resource logos. It’s awesome.
Texas is one of the biggest cotton producers in the world.. especially lubbock county. Saying you cant grow anything in Texas is quite the exaggeration.
This was back then without chemical help. Most soil in Texas is dry and burnt af but newer agricultural inventions obviously makes it fertile
Exactly. The Río Grande Valley of South Texas didn't start producing vast amounts of citrus until more modern irrigation techniques were put in place.
"You can't really grow anything in Texas..." Um, tell that to all the rice and corn down here towards Houston. ;D Also, pretty sure Houston wishes it was dry and burnt af...cuz it freaking floods every time it rains so....yeah.
@@samanthanova6147 thats one of the symptoms of being dry and burned. When soil is extreamly dry its very bad at absorbing water and flood after the rain. Paradoxicly, more regular rain would mean less floods.
@@panwp123 That might be true in West Texas but on the south east side of Texas, which is what I'm talking about, its wetlands bud. I think yall keep forgetting Texas is a big place and the whole state is not a desert.
When we talked about the civil war, all of the white kids argued with me that it wasn't about slavery. I constantly asked what other reasons but none of them gave me a clear answer. This video and countless others were right. In the end, its just about slavery. Mind you, I was the ONLY poc in my whole grade.
While slavery was a very compelling factor it wasn’t the only reason.
Lincoln even proposed for the south that they could keep slaves till 1900 if they rejoined the Union.
A lot of the reason for the war was because of economic issues and souths growing stubbornness towards the unions proposed ideas.
Dang idk how that could have felt...
It wasn't about slavery at first until Europe wanted to join the southern states. Then Lincoln made it about slavery so they wouldn't intervene with the war since it would be for a "noble cause"
@@yeet5146 that's just provably wrong. The southern states STATED reasons why they left outlined slavery as their chief reason. Ignoring their constitution and secessionist speech is just ignorant
@@Brandon-hn5jx your comment has nothing related to what I said
For the record Lincoln asked Lee to be the General of the Union Army and Lee refused to attack his home state of Virginia. He sided with the South.
average citizen looks like he fucked up
For the record, it bears keeping in mind, that prior to the civil war, allegiance was to your state first, union second. Which is why the civil war was such a divisive one. KB handwaving it away as totally being about slavery is ahistorical.
andrew hinson False. We know that the secession and the subsequent Civil War was about slavery because we have primary documents from the Confederate states where Confederate officials claim their secession was all about slavery.
it was 100% about slavery for those in power (Politicians) and those profitting (Business/ plantation owners) who happened to finance said politicians. But in regards to everyone else, its a lot easier to convince your average citizen to put their lives on the line for their homes rather than for an idea. Lee would've prioritised not seeing Virginia burnt to the ground well before any form of moral arguement.
@@Maka556 Sigh; it was about a State's right to have slavery. It was about enforcing the primacy of a State to decide its own laws. We see some of that today, with certain municipalities and States choosing to disregard certain Federal laws and to not cooperate with the Federal government on certain issues.
It is interesting that those who support the assertion of local rights today (on issues such as illegal alien control and border security) inconsistently seem to be those who applaud the Federal government of 1860's suppression of State's Rights.
My high school history teacher adamantly insisted that the Civil War was NOT about slavery but about states rights. He’d have us repeat it after him a lot. Man I wish I could go back in time and call him out on his bs!
What bs? He was right
@@teacopem states rights to what?
Doobus Goobus and Checkmate Lincolnites! got it right.
I'm three years late, so some ones probably already said this, but that quote from Lincoln about preserving the Union over Abolishing slavery is slightly out of context. It ends with Lincoln stating that he personally still wanted to abolish slavery but was putting the needs of the Union over his own beliefs(“I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free.”). Its less "Obama's Gonna Take Your Guns" and more on par with Obama's view of Same Sex Marriage, which in 2004 he claimed he was against it(because most of the voting base were homophobic, just like in the 1860s when almost everyone was racist) saying he favored stronger civil unions for Same Sex Couples. but he slowly changed his stated position over time until by 2015 he was fully openly in favor of Marriage Equality. That's still not a perfect comparison though.
0:45 you should read Jefferson’s correspondence with James Monroe. They hated the institution of slavery and thought of it as a rancid stain shackled to them for having been under the evils of the British empire.
In case anyone's wondering, Alexander Hamilton was the worst founding father. He was totally wack. Even the other founding fathers thought he was a jabroni.
Jefferson is a hypocrite. I get it's more complicated than that and that some people call it a duality of his character. But I don't buy that he hated slavery as much as he said he did.
@@GC-ps9mn Jefferson certainly didn't like slavery. He was a founding member of the Anti-Slavery Society. He is quoted as having said that "these people will be free". He also said (regarding slavery): "We have a wolf by the ears." But it is also accepted among historians that he would have fought for the South. The reason that he would have fought for the South is that he did not agree that the Federal Government had primacy in all matters and that the individual states had the right to nullify Federal laws as well as to secede from the Union. Madison (who knew the Constitution far better than Jefferson) recognized and stated that the Federal Government had such primacy. It's a shame that 600,000 people had to die to demonstrate Federal supremacy.
angryhobo212 what’s your reasons
ti pr didn’t Jefferson own slaves? I’m confused.
Texas: hey so remember that time we fought mexico so we could keep our slaves
Union: mhm
Texas: yeah we're gonna do that again
edit: when you make a joke over a year ago and everyone is fighting over whether you are historically correct 😎
lol
When did Texas go to war with Mexico over slaves?
TheGrayGhost Texas Revolution
@@bobsponge6062 That wasn't fought over slavery tho.
@@thegrayghost1786 during the mexican-american war, dipshit.
This comment section dude...
we have the
really defensive americans: "guys lets just forget about slavery"
the angry republicans: "DEMOCRATS DID THE SLAVE TRADE AND STARTED THE KKK!!"
random civ players: "using the civ icons is awesome!!"
random southern haters: "the south still SUCKS!"
the southerners: "man our barbeque is the best in the world"
the people who actually seem smart: blah blah blah *random american history word that i dont know what means* blah blah
& the one guy i found who was saying that we should have slaves today
Well southern barbecue is good...
Does that mean I'm prejudiced against other barbecues?
Was bound to happen on a video like this
Which president freed the slaves? Wasn't he Republican?
Who else watchin this at like 3 am
Just looked at the clock. It's 3:14am
LLT PB3 2:20 am, drunk as hell. Worth it.
4:00
LLT PB3 Gits and Shiggles Baby Feet On March 13, the Confederate Congress passed legislation to raise and enlist companies of black soldiers. The legislation was then promulgated into military policy by Davis in General Order No. 14 on March 23, 1865.
“I have always been in favor of Emancipation”- Robert E Lee
70% of the Confederacy didn’t have slavery, the north had 5 slave states, and Grant was a slave owner.
9 pm
It’s 2:49am for me
I love that you use Civ VI icons lol
Ye
And a Fallout 2 picture. And really threw me off with Cinema sins, I thought I was in the wrong video for a second.
I was like “GOT TO GET THEM LUXURY ITEMS AHHHHHHH”
you beat me by 6 months
you beat me by 6 months
The beginning of your statement was a little outside of history. Several of the signers of the Constitution were anti slavery. Anti slavery was already an argument that many had been having since its introduction in the Americas. Please reexamine the viewpoints of the signers. George Washington, for example, was against slavery but also knew the Virginia laws prevented him from letting his go free; until he died. Which he did. Jefferson was too far in debt to do anything similar and Virginians had closed off the law. Adams, Franklin are two off the top of my head. My understanding is that nearly 75% were abolitionists.
Just my two since. Enjoyed the rest.
Very true. I left a ton of comments debunking his gun control video. On this video, I'm not saying he's always wrong, but he oversimplifies a SHIT ton of history in both videos.
**Patriotism increases**
The Constitution is an INTERNATIONAL compact, just like the EU or the UN.
Whoever says that secession = civil war, is simply wrong.
If you say you're against Slavery but keep slaves until you're dead, then you're FOR slavery. Just like today, actions speak louder than words. Much better to judge their actions and not words.
@@m2heavyindustries378 Since I assume you are talking about George Washington, the original post said: "The Virginia laws prevented him from letting his go free, until he died." I'm no expert historian by any means, just putting this here. Context matters, so try rereading the post, if you want.
Actually the real slave trade (importing from Africa) was very limited in the US at that time (and has always been), the real augmentation in numbers being rather from slaves children "harvesting", meaning slaves already in the US given birth to new generations of slaves.
Virginia and Maryland pushed for banning importation so they could get better prices on their own.
"In 1837 Arkansas and Michigan were added. Whatever."
Arkansans and Michiganders: *o u c h*
Big oof.
I know. I let out a gasp 😱
Ikr
O U C H
I feel big offended
I believe that in New England the sentiment was anti-slavery from the beginning. Also, people like William Penn and others were definitely morally against slavery. Let's give the U.S. credit where credit is due. I sense a little Presentism in Knowing Better's analysis.
Well, the South was born when the King of England gave large land grants in Va. to loyal Nobles, dispossessed from their estates in the civil wars. A army o veterans sent by Charles II
These nobles needed serf's. The slave trade was a Royal monopoly. Slavery was illegal in "America". The Royal Governor provoked a rebellion, which was crushed by a army of veterans sent by the King. The Governor packed assembly, and rewrote slavery laws making black slaves for life, including their children. Some of the survivors were pushed west . (Start of the Western Movement:). Others moved to Mass..
The King traded muskets to Cherokees for Native American slaves ( a deal made at the point of a Tomahawk), He took them to Caribbean
islands, and traded them for various things, mainly black slaves, which were then sold to the Nobles of New Carolina (later N.C. & S.C.)) & Virginia.
And the South was born.
"Presentism" - I like that term. I'm gonna use it. Far too much presentism among people today and not a true appreciation for history.
there was VERY luke warm antislavery sentiment in the north
"You can't really grow anything in Texas"
*LAUGHS IN TEXAN*
what do you grow in Texas?
Young Earth Creationists
@@cambridge5770 At my home in TX we've grown black eyed peas, various types of squash, greens, okra, and tomatoes. On a commercial level though, Texans grow mostly grain and cotton.
Stephen Wright HA that actually made me lol
Texas is third in Citrus fruit, In the top five in cotton, wheat, corn, peanuts etc...It's pretty easy to google it before you say stupid things though.
It’s funny how he put happy music in the background of a dark topic
To simplistic. Abraham Lincoln was all over the record in primary sources stating how much he detested slavery. And the Slaves states knew this at the time. So while he said what he would and would not do during his campaign, the slave power didn't believe it and their fear and hard hardheadedness hastened slavery's demise.
He did, however, say that his personal views were not necessarily the same as his political views. As much as he hated slavery he was willing to maintain it if that would save the Union.
@Stevospeedo you’ve gotta be kidding me
@Stevospeedo So you want the USA to be split in two? Because we would be two countries now.
@Steve Sherman dam dude hella edgy of you, hope whatever your going thru gets better, seriously man you should probably call her
the victors get to rewrite history. People are only seen the worst parts of slavery and assume everyone is some evil white person with a whip. That simply isn't true.
“Further leading to the genocide of the buffo, beaver and some people”
American Indians: am I a joke to you?
The buffo?
*Native Americans
Random Videos Native American or American Indian same difference
Guess they should have fought harder to keep their land.
Some call American Indian beaver squaw
I love how you use the symbols from Civilization to represent the resources.
The argument that it was inevitable is still a real historical argument, not influenced by the Lost Cause Myth. Basically, the South was always going to fight a war to keep their slaves once cotton became a viable cash crop.
"In 1837 Arkansas and Michigan are added, whatever..."
Me having pride for my square state: *triggered*
Me having pride for my mitten state:
*triggered*
Go Lions!
New York State is the best, we have crazy Italians, chicken wings, farms, mountains, seaports, tall building, and amazing landscape and nature
@@emutv4100 You mean Texas... we have all that and more, and it's all BIGGER. NY is so puny. Texas is 6x bigger... So are the Men
(I grew up up there[New England] so sort of j/k but not really)
@@the_algorithm ew, why i would wanna be in texas, its not the most fit place in the world
As a Minnesotan I was kind of mad when you picked a picture without Minnesota in the blue. We literally have Virginia’s army’s flag in our capital. The 1st Minnesota fought from the battle of bull run all the way to Gettysburg. So from start to finish. Over 80% of the regiment died fighting in that damn war man!
same
Props to the Minnesota 1st!
Gettysburg wasn’t the end of the war just fyi…but that’s still pretty cool!
out of context it's hilarious xD ♥
"One of the most important inventions in human History. Because it kept slavery alive."
somehow i fall asleep right as history class starts yet i was able to watch entire video without stopping. bravo
Um, the state of Maine has a French Acadian population and there just happens to be a over in France a province/state call Maine
Why can’t it be both? There doesn’t have to be just one reason.
James Orth Gits and Shiggles Baby Feet On March 13, the Confederate Congress passed legislation to raise and enlist companies of black soldiers. The legislation was then promulgated into military policy by Davis in General Order No. 14 on March 23, 1865.
“I have always been in favor of Emancipation”- Robert E Lee
70% of the Confederacy didn’t have slavery, the north had 5 slave states, and Grant was a slave owner.
Southern Gentleman lol
How many times do you want to copypaste that?
Gameer 00 It’s in the history books, but for some reason people don’t read it.
Southern Gentleman so was Robert E Lee. Both Grant and Lee had slaves through their wife’s estate dumbass. Read a goddamn book
A bit disingenuous if one dismisses the conclusion in Abraham Lincoln's Letter to Horace Greeley, "I have here stated my purpose according to my view of OFICIAL duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed PERSONAL wish that all men everywhere could be free." (My emphasis).
Sounds like a flip fopping politician with an overabundance of rhetorical devices.._ Like today.
@@malikanthony1149 To me it definitely sounds like he valued the country and his leadership more than the freedom of slaves although he valued both. Basically, if he was allowed to free the slaves with no consequences, just based on his personal, moral opinions he totally would, however it just isn't possible without compromising what he values more (the well-being of the country).
@L3V17e Abraham Lincoln could spell OFFICIAL properly and so should you.
To quote my grandfather on the cause of the civil war.
"The war was and wasn't about slavery. At its heart it was about slavery but if you were to go up to anyone during the war they would say its about keeping the southern states in the Union.
This is pretty accurate, it usually depends on who you ask, but slavery was not the sole reason for the war.
Your grandfather was wrong.
@@drakke125Channel This is not accurate. The Civil War was about slavery.
"One of the most important inventions in history because, it kept slavery alive". That is a pretty cryptic quote dude.
Believe it or not. Racism also played a role in it...
While it is true that Lincoln didn't outright say "I'm gonna ban slavery", he is famous for saying that the United States could not endure permanently half slave and half free, that someday it must become all slave or all free. And his stance on the expansion of slavery made it pretty clear which one he wanted. I doubt that, had the South not thrown a five year hissy fit, he would have been able to ban slavery, but he probably would have set the stage for more and more free states, which would have meant the loss of slave state power in the Senate.
Even Robert E Lee eventually understood slavery had an experation date.
Lincoln was a very complicated man. He understood how to get the job done, even if he had take backward steps to do it. He's also the only President to take direct fire from enemy troops while in office. They don't make them like that anymore.
So 150 years later it became all slave ! Interesting.
@u wot m8 Completely disregarding you calling Liberia "a cannibal hellscape", imagine your family was captured 400 years ago, brought to a foreign land across the ocean, and forced to slave away for the rest of their days. Between the first generation of your family that lived in America and the current generation that was freed, you lost everything culturally that would have been passed down, you were never taught how to read or write, and the only skill set you were given was to farm a specific crop. At this point, you have no connection to your motherland, no money, and no means to travel to another country. Would you migrate to your mother country, which you probably don't even know the name of? Especially since some random European decided to claim and rename your home?
So Lincoln died and slavery is still here.
It is now the white, black, yellow , red , green , purple , grey people working to feed the none working class .
I bet Lincoln did not think about that .
The fact that you have been doing this a year and still have so few views is seriously disturbing. Are you not monetizing your videos? Videos with more adds tend to be promoted by youtube algorithms more aggressively. Also, we (the viewers) won't think any less of you for having unskippable adds.
Your encouraging words are always welcome :)
My videos are definitely monetized - at least until TH-cam strips it for whatever reason, which they've done to me on occasion. The option to have unskippable ads is only available if you're part of an MCN, which I am not.
I agree! you need way more subs!
whenever I see a video from you I'm so happy since I learn something new and your content is super entertaining. I wish more people could find out about you some how.
+Knowing Better: What's an MCN? just curious.
Joshua Burbridge .
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Knowing Better how do you know not even have 100k the world must know about your channel.
The expression "being sold south" is derived from the transition from tobacco farming in Virginia to cotton production in the Deep South - Alabama, Mississippi as this new product became the indisputable cash crop of the later Confederacy. As a side note there were also slaves involved in the production of rice in Louisiana. When the soil in Virginia became more unwieldy due to tobacco's nitrate depleting properties, many slave owners found the best way to cut their losses was to sell their slaves to planters in the Deep South. Good video! The Lost Cause is more of a historical revisionist fable offered by ex-Confed folks like Jeff Davis and Jubal Early. The South was in a state of collective mourning and wanted a way to justify the suffering and hardship it underwent because of the conflict. I tend to look at the plight of the Confederate soldier in Marxist terms - after the 1862 Conscription Act, which exempted slaveowners with 20+ slaves, while conscripting those w/o it becomes abundantly clear, who was fighting for whom. Rich man's war, poor man's fight. That being said, the individual soldiers largely didn't think they were fighting for the preservation of Southern aristocrats' wealth. Even Jubal Early, originally a staunch Unionist, didn't take up arms with the Confederacy until Lincoln's call for 75,000 volunteered to quell the rebellion. This also prompted Virginia's secession.
We didn't start a war with Great Britain. We went to war in response to the impressment of our citizens by the British navy, among other reasons. It wasn't like we woke up one day and said, "Let's start a war with our biggest trading partner who also just happens to have the biggest navy and the strongest professional army in the world."
Not the strongest army that was france, the biggest navy. And most people don't know that the royal navy attacked a US warship killing several sailors.
no that is not true, the real motivation was the British tax on the colonys to pay for the standing army to protect the slave holders from the wrath of the enslaved, read 1776 the counter revolution and slave resistance by Dr. Gerald Horne
It's kind of ironic how the southern states suddenly embracing slavery as their industrial labor eventually doomed the Confederacy to certain failure because it just couldn't fight a war with the industrially competitive northern states.
I still think the Civil War was inevitable, but not because of the Lost Cause myth. From the moment the founders set up a country that claimed to be free but allowed slavery, there was always going to be a fight over it. The ownership class was never going to give up their slaves while there was still a chance for profit. They were always going to fight for the right to own people, whether they kept them working in the fields or they industrialized and sent them into the factories, as we saw on a smaller scale in Germany during World War 2.
_"From the moment the founders set up a country that claimed to be free but allowed slavery, there was always going to be a fight over it."_
Yes, I agree. Clearly, the united colonies' determination to be rid of Britain was their priority; the decision was taken to "not sweat the details" until after their common enemy was defeated. In hindsight, though, it's obvious that slavery was a fault line in the nation's foundation that would eventually erupt with catastrophic consequences.
Excellent point.
Oh they definitely knew it was going to be a problem eventually but they figured it they didn’t want to weaken the new country with Britain still breathing down their neck and shoved it to be something to worry about later
Robert Grimm god is going to up root all the devil seeds truth me
@@frisco21 In Hindsight?
KB: *show map of ancient USA *
Me: Cries in Spanish Empire
When he says you were thinking about cotton, but you knew it was tobacco
Abe Lincoln's number one priority was preserving the nation. He was correct. When he attempted to unilaterally legislate things like freeing slaves...he paid for it quite dearly.
@Southern Sun where'd ya learn this?
Technically the etymology of the state of Maine is unknown but officially according to the state of Maine it is named after the historical province in northwest France that was also named Maine.
If you start digging you find all these other reasons, beside slavory that the Civil War was fought... all of which, if you follow, quickly lead back to the issue of slavory.
Racism is the cause. If Africans were physically more like Europeans, segregation would never have taken the form it did.
Whenever I hear that the Civil War was fought over "states' rights", I always counter with something I heard from John Greene: "Oh yeah? A State's right to do what?"
Leave the union
@@rwilson1197 and why did they want to leave the union?
Because they didn’t feel represented enough in the government
Represented in what way? To do what?
A states right to do whatever they want, period.
The Robert E Lee quote perfectly examples why religion was created: to justify injustices by leaving it to a non-existent being.
I love your stuff.
You are well versed and document, just watch over a dozen of your vids and have not seen one major (or minor) factual error.
10/10
Man as a self described “addict for context” especially when discussing historical events, your channel has been one of my favorites finds in years. It’s always amazing how much truly is revealed when you just establish the REALITY of an event and not spewing the same narrative every time. For my own context I am very far left, a dirty dirty sjw and I have very deep respect for this guy’s content
sexxxy time!
Same here friend
I have no idea why I wrote that. Was there another comment that was deleted or something? Lol.
Btw Carly, I like this guy's content too and most people would probably describe me a left leaning too but some of what he says isn't very, left. Did you see his defense of Christopher Columbus for example?
I mean, I guess that shouldn't technically be a left or right issue since we're just talking about the facts but a lot of people see it that way. I'm of the opinion that one should first and foremost go with the facts or the science. I don't believe in climate change because I'm on the left. I believe in it because that's what the science suggests. Which, incidentally, is true of maybe 90% of the left's positions but not all of it.
@@PaulTheSkeptic People think being a decent human being is now a political stance so I'm not surprised that they'd think everything he says is left leaning because they disagree with him.
@@ADreamingTraveler Lol. A lot of channels take shit from both sides. Counter Arguments released a video talking about some of his comments and some of them were like "You're obviously biased toward the right." and others were like "You're obviously biased toward the left." Lol.
"... for one crop"
Tobacco?
"and it's not the crop you're thinking of..."
Oh .
"Tobacco."
Texans declared independence in large part because slaveholders feared that Mexico would take away their slaves.
This guy here Texas Histories . . .
Mexico abolished slavery sometime in the early 1800s. Texas was a part of Mexico at that time and yes the slave owners in Texas did not want lose their slaves. So they seceded from Mexico and became a member of the United States.
Exactly. Mexico had outlawed slavery in their Constitution. Texans wanted slaves, hence their rebellion...
Anthony Gallardo most of does gangs are Central American gangs , like Salvador or Honduras , heck what about all the African Americans that are in gangs even white ppl have there gangs or "organizations" , not saying that Mexicans don’t , but that everyone does
@@anthonygallardo8377 LMFAO!!!!!! The Mexicans left their own damn country in droves because the USA treated them better. Now Central Americans are following the same trend. The USA treats immigrants so fucking well that a significant chunk of the citizenry wants a border wall to slow down the flood of imposing migrants looking for better treatment. Don't ever accuse the USA of treating people of color poorly, when we put them on such a gold pedestal that they refuse to stop coming into our country!
I’m from Michigan and when I went down to Tennessee for a bit I was kinda shocked at the abundance of Confederate and border line racist iconography. The scar of the confederacy, racism, and Jim Crow are still there and I almost felt like I was in a different country. For crying out loud on the state border there is an American flag waving on a proud and tall poll and right next to it, at the same level, implying it’s equal standing to the stars and stripes, was a confederate flag. I’m really not trying to alienate or make fun of anyone from there but it’s sad to see the scars still there hundreds of years later. Some things never change.
Which part of Tennessee
@@quinnholloway5400 does it matter? Memphis to Knoxville is racist af. Proud bigots.
The fact I don't hate racists at all. Only the alt left. They pretend to care then stab you in the back like a cult. Nah fam, you hate or like me but never use me or betray my trust.
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@@Babyshoes777 Nice generalization of an entire state 🙄
@@Babyshoes777 Yeah its so racist and bigoted here that's why we have a ton of people moving to Tennessee from Michigan 🤣
Knowing Better: "They were used for one crop, and it's not the crop you're thinking of..."
Me: "So not tobacco?"
Knowing Better: "It was tobacco. The crop you were thinking of was cotton."
Me: "..."
Discovered the channel through this video. Helped me recover from a tonsillectomy
Shoezz oh my god, same here. This was the first of his vids I saw cause I was watching videos about the civil war
Lincoln's election actually was a big deciding factor for the start of the Civil War. Though it is true he didn't run on an abolitionist platform, he and his party did run on a platform that vehemently resisted any further expansion of slavery into the territories. As you said, the South could not stand for this as it would mean a quicker death for slavery, so this was translated through Southerner propaganda as "Lincoln is an abolitionists who wants to take away all your slaves and cause race war/mixing." Several secessionist documents cite Lincoln's election as a "final straw" of sorts proving that the North was against slavery and their way of life.
It was because the south asked if Lincoln would keep the morale tax. When he said he would they seceded
Nope. The Morrill Tariff passed AFTER several southern states seceded. Had they not seceded, they easily had enough voting power to defeat the bill. That tariff is almost never cited in secessionist documents, but it's hard to find one that _doesn't_ talk about slavery.
if the north was against slavery then how come it to longer forbthe north to give up savery compare to the south who was already giving up slavery little by little way before the war even started and why did abraham lincoln owned his own slaves as well as the rest of the north had also owned slaves before and after the war. abraham lincoln had it in his own written documents where he even supported slavery thenbis a proven fact that the north is trying to hid the war was never about slavery but about the north was wanting to over taxing the south and make it a one government nation where the south wanted their own government. ibreally which history books and the north stop their lies when it comes to yhe history of the civil war as the south was alreadydoin' away with slavery way before the war as their was tons of free saves owning land in the south as well way before the war even started. and besides only 2% of southernersbevwn owned slaves compare the the higher % in the north that owned slaves.
+Indigenous European Lol literally everything in that horribly composed, spelling and grammatically atrocious rant is patently false. What “history books” taught you that drek? The closest thing to true you eluded to was Lincoln on slavery, in that he was willing to tolerate it where it already was to prevent secession. However the South wanted a guarantee for it to _expand_ into the territories, which the Republicans, as per their party platform, would not allow. But why am I telling you this? You will only default to the Southernpride.com forum post -drivel- “history” that you already spouted.
@@Zarastro54 nothing i said was false but facts i done deep researchbon this i evenbread somebold documents thay been written by abraham him self which isnt hard to find living in denial will only make u ignorant to the truth and this is the internet no need to make your comments perfect this isnt a school test. so being a keyboard warrior only makes one own self look like an ass as if i want my spelling and comments to be perfect i'll go to a fucking business place.
I can just hear people shouting state's rights at their computer.
Literally tho, "reeeeee states rights!!!" "Reeeeee they used to be democrats" "REEEEEEEE"
Fucking conservative snowflakes in action
@@shaunsocha421 snowflakes used to be a term they used, then their weapon grew a second blade and stabbed them.
@@rickrolld1367 😂😂😂 I love that, I need to make an edit of the Darth Maul fight where he ignites the second half of a snowflake lightsaber and cuts himself in half 😂😂
@@shaunsocha421 I’d love to see it
@@rickrolld1367
I believe the term is “appropriation”, you set of unoriginal measureless hypocrites.
I always thought Maine was named after the French province of Maine, the region of the city of Le Mans...
Bingo. it was part of French Acadia... which is why Acadia National park is located there
It's named Maine for the reason stated in the video. (Fun fact: It was originally called "The Province of New Somersetshire", I wonder why that didn't stick?)
The origin of the name Maine is still uncertain. People just used it, and England went with it.
Slavery & racism is so deeply rooted in this country Idk if it's effects will ever be totally diminished. It's a disease passed down through generations
I can tell you for a fact that racism was not everywhere though, even decades ago. My father grew up in a 1950s-60s Iowa farming town, and believe it or not, they had a minority race preacher from India at his family's Methodist church for a few years! The only racism my father saw him receive was when an out of state kid called him a slur when they were attending some multistate convention, which shocked him and the local kids. Iowa had integrated public schools since 1868 and a law banning discrimination in public accommodations from 1884 onward. The University of Iowa actually stopped playing the University of Missouri in football for over 100 years because in the early 20th Century they (Missouri) would not stop targeting the black players on their integrated teams (the team and students were FURIOUS from what I've read). There were a few a-holes and a couple bad towns, but Iowa was historically known for being remarkably progressive on racial stuff. Is the legacy of racism a problem in America? Yes, in some parts of the country, but I think we have made significant progress. The healing journey will take some more time though.
@@thunderbird1921 It is definitely worse, today. It's used as an excuse for bad behavior.
There's no such thing as "the right side of history." That's just a lame argument for people who want to make their points of view look like they were inevitable the whole time. It's the logical equivalent of saying "God's on my side, so I must be right!", with only the word "history" substituted for God.
woah dude that's crazy how you can replace certain words in a sentence and it makes a whole other sentence.
Enslaving a group of people is the wrong side of history. Don't care if grandpa served for the Confederates. All men are created equal.
@@lanehealystpierre8852 That's simply not true; every country has had slaves, and there are still countries using them. The African slaves were sold to America by other Africans, but somehow they were the lucky ones to be set free from the continent. If it weren't for slavery in America, there would be a significantly smaller population of African Americans living here today. Stop swallowing the blue pills.
@@daveyjones9699 I said people who were for slavery were on the wrong side of history. Are you trying to say that they were right?
@@lanehealystpierre8852 "Enslaving a group of people is the wrong side of history." I'm saying that that statement is goofy, and that Africans were better off as slaves in America than in Africa. Also, that all men are NOT created equal, only given equal rights.
Edit: Albert Einstein is not equal to Lebron James.
The intro slaps with the visual because they all say “you know better”
When Mexico obtained its freedom from Spain (finalized in 1821), slavery was already abolished. So I can imagine California didn’t really want to become a slave state when slavery had already been gone for a generation
They had no problem enslaving Indians though.
@@5frogfrenzy Mexicans are part "indians" though
@@5frogfrenzy The us had no problem in commiting genocide against the "indiands" though
@@tacoguy764 okay? Doesn't change what I said.
New favorite channel. I love it. Thanks for all your great content!
Funny, I discovered your channel by looking through exurb1a's subscribed to list
Lol I like the Civ V and Civ VI icons used in the video.
Faris Zurub I noticed that too
I didn't even motor that.
Surprisingly enough, he didn't use an icon for buffaloes since they're not in CivVI...
And to this day black people still use this to defend themselves even though the have nothing to do with it. So disrespectful that you use your ancestors suffering for your own good.
Yep, because they were all happy and free and nobody ever mistreated a black person ever again.
Huh? The history of U.S. slavery has "nothing to do" with Black people today??? I have quite a few Jewish friends that -if you told them, "The holocaust has 'nothing to do with you today' would give you an earful.. and a couple Irish friends in Boston who -if you said, "Indentured servitude has nothing to do with you"- might wanna knock your teeth out.' Personally, I'm nearly 7O years old and my great-grandfather was a slave in service to this country, so I politely suggest that you take you shitty attitude and stick it. The U.S.A. needs to deal with this head on before it can advance, or it'll keep coming back to bite it's ass (in many ways), ad infinitum (or just, finally right out admit with a Congressional proclamation that we - a country of immigrants - don't really want ANYone else except lily-whiteans on U.S. soil.. and see how THAT goes). It's our idiotic American lack of appreciating the timeline (we think that 150 years is a "long time ago") that is one of the roots of the problem... as well as slavery being an unresolved issue right at our country's inception, when the Constitution was written .. Essentially then, our foundation is rotten and we keep ignoring it, thanks to thinking such as yours. You can't fix something that you don't recognize as being broke.
@@louisbouche2987 Don't compromise, these people can't wait until the white race is a minority and they can literally enslave us right back. It's going to cause another civil war, just watch
The irony of California not being a slave state is this: California today grows cotton and rice. These are crops that used slave labor back during slavery days. Rice growing got its start in California during the Gold Rush, but it was by Chinese laborers, for their own consumption. Commercial rice growing didn't take place in California until 1912. Cotton was also grown in California, but like rice, commercial production took off during the 20th century instead of prior.
That Exurb1a reference proves you're a man of culture.
ALTERNATE HISTORY: What if the Cotton Gin was never invented?
Chinese shirts would still be cheap
Civil War doesn't happen. We colonize Japan... uhhhhh... not sure how that ends for us but I think it goes badly somewhere.
@@APsupportsTerrorism samurai cowboys ; shootouts on the rooftops at midnight with shuriken, not pistols at noon in Main St.
These are Civilization VI resource icons.
They reminded me of Civ V resource icons, I haven't played Civ 6 since I'm straight.
Eli Whitney: "Go now, my child Cotton Gin. You shall be the one who ends slavery"
Cotton gin: _quintuples slavery and starts the Civil War_
I do love having the argument with people over states rights yes that state's right to own other human beings. I don't understand the lack of sympathy in people who have this mindset what does it matter what the war was fought over. slavery is over now isn't that better for everyone, I certainly don't want to be property.
Or have our property stolen...our communities and police officers harassed.
Yeah... like abortion being a mother's right to KILL a human being? And most think we are MORE moral since our country's founding, I beg to differ.
@@danieldietsche2954 it's her body, her decision. tf do you care? it's not your life.
@@colonnadesecurity3136 The baby is only 1/2 her DNA... It's another unique human being, just like slavery. Her 3 "choices" are abstinence, adoption, or mother.
JOSEPH Johnson:
As in this video Gandalf said "don't be hasty" Other wish 5% of the US population would be killed in war.
Oopps I guess we got hasty
It took me half the video to discover that you were using Civ 6 icons for stuff.
same, i'm surprised this hasn't been copyright struck and now isn't called Sid Meier's model of: Slavery's Scar on the United States
Same i realized this halfway thru when the fur icons were foxes.
That picture of “cotton” at 2:07 is not cotton lol
Sorry to break it to you, but that’s cotton.
Waffle Nixon no, it’s not lol
Griffin Bailey sorry, I’ve heard it’s milkweed. I really apologize for my assumption/jump to conclusions
I have now learned it isn’t. Most say it’s milkweed as I’ve stated earlier
Waffle Nixon no problem, there are cotton farms all around me. So I see it on a daily basis... if you google “cotton” and look at images you can see what it looks like
Griffin Bailey I was thinking the same thing, as a kid I grew up on a farm where cotton was grown and that’s definitely not cotton.
People committed to the lost cause understanding of the Civil War are simply living in alternate reality.
I encountered someone praising Robert E Lee as actually an anti slavery abolitionist and I pointed out Lee's quote that slaves' "painful discipline they are undergoing is necessary." I asked, are these the words of an abolitionist? His completely serious response - yes. Can't do anything at that point.