The Beipi nerf is kind of confusing. Barely anyone plays them already, (cause like Hypsi they are basically just pkayable food) So why make them even easier to catch and kill? Have too many escaped death therefore their species must be punished? I get why Hypsi now has growth (nesting and etc) but part of me (based) feels like they just nerfed them...as now Hypsies (who already die when the wind blows) get to suffer and grow into a frail as fine china creature.
I guess they want Beipi to dive more and rely on underwater locomotion to travel quickly. And obviously, for Hypsi, they need to enable growth for mutation.
Well it doensn't impact that much since beipi never move like that. They always have been slower on surface than uderwater and surface is basically where deino hunt, they wait a prey to be on the surface. So idk why they made this change but it's not impactfull For the Hypsi they alwais said it was gonna have a growth one days
@@ChristopherAndersonPirate cause it wasn't fair for other small species like troodon or beipi. For the beipi yeah those change are bad but it doesn't matter cause beipi dont traveling on surface or under but by jumping like daulphins
I'm confused on why they nerfed beipi's surface swim speed. Seems like it came out of no where. I've not seen but maybe one beipi since playing this past month.
Awesome changes to grapple and really appreciate the changes to chuffing. I assume they implemented grapple how it was at first just for testing purposes, glad to see they made it a multi omni ability as this makes much more sense and requires skill to pull off. Lessening the stam for troodon latching is also great, lil guy needed it! So cute just hanging out on the teno hehe not gonna lie I'm a liiiittle sad that the south sanctuary is real now 😹 it was a great place to hide out haha I'm amazed they made hyspi spawn in as a juvie now! Super unexpected, but not unwelcome. Overall great changes, just don't love the beipi one. Seems unnecessary to me.
It’s only the surface swim speed, nothing else. Making this out to be some terrible nerf is like saying that the terrestrial animal’s z walk is too slow. You aren’t supposed to be doing that when you want to get somewhere quickly. The actual method of traveling with beipei is, and always has been, the dolphin breach.
@@Some1-2 yes. You expend much more stamina, in order to move at much greater speed. That should not be a concern when a gator is currently on top of you. Worried more about mileage? Swim underwater. Because that is also literally the same speed as it was in the prior patch. We are talking about an animal with 3 to 4 different flavors of getting somewhere fast, and yet people are complaining about the single one that was nerfed. Dolphin, Under the surface, Glueing yourself to the riverbed and sprinting, and running around on land are all the same. Anyone who was surface swimming to get around before now, was putting themselves in a far worse position than most of the other options anyway. It’s far easier to get chomped on while floating, because you’re moving in a predictable manner and easily seen. Dolphin is easily seen, but far more difficult to time an ambush on, while swimming underwater is just infinitely better for stealth. Even with all the ragging I’m doing on it, the surface swim still has a use. It’s the one you can use scent in, and the one where you can take a moment to observe your surroundings, neither of which requires you to go Mach 5.
I still think grapple needs a little bit more nerfing. It'd be better if Omnis needed to exceed the target's weight unless it is completely out of stamina. Because I feel like people forgot that Omni never NEEDED to be able to pin things down. Grapple didn't "finally make Omni good" it was already VERY strong specially in groups, it just made it overpowered.
@@christydavis1184 Also no, I just don't have a bias towards Omni, because omni being able to pin down animals over 3-4 tons is not something anyone other than someone with a bias towards Omni would want.
@@Rathan0 omggg congratzz!! Its such a powerful gpu tell me later how much fps you get! (and if youre struggling its because the game requires some easy fixing, like deleting the config folder)
Remember in the last video you answered to me that you are waiting for maia.So, yes it will come but later than T-rex,trike,oviraptor (that will have mehanic to steal/eat eggs)maybe there will be Austroptor after and finaly might come Maiasaurus.Acutaly it's understantable cause I am waiting so much for Austroraptor but it's 50/50:(
Great work as always. What do you think about the grapple. I personally think the exploit of having a small omni continue a grapple should be fixed but if the raptors weight is above a threshold and the Dino being grappled is around the same weight and low on stam a solo grapple should be possible.
@@KougaArt You don't need to be equal weight to wrestle someone to the floor. And when you add more people/things pulling in different directions, it makes it even harder to defend against. 70% I could see, but 75% means you are big enough to wrestle something solo, albeit with difficulty. So 80-100% weight makes no sense especially when you consider multiple attackers.
@@KougaArt To me pounce is OP since it's spammable, I think it would be better if they implement again the if you miss you are stun + increase value. I also seen some interessting idea where people said we could hold right click to prepare a pounce and realease to actually pounce. This way you opposant see if an omni is about to pounce.
Still alittle iffy with the size threshold for omnis two omnis can pin a majority of the roster without the stam being lower than 20% still pretty busted imo
@@christydavis1184 regardless if they could or not it’s not fun to get pinned by something that’s less then half your weight even if two are required. Like I said if the player being grappled stam was more apart of it instead of combining the Omni weight to negate any processes that need to be met to pin I want Omni to be capable but I don’t want it to be broken or easy which this grapple seems to do for them with some more tweaks it could be a good rewarding tool in omnis kit right now that’s not it
And they are not supposed to kill it. It'd a counter part to allosaurus, they are both a higher tier playables. Carnos and ceras should stick to their niche.
@@shmoo5322 no one cares about what realistic or not. Mutations are part of si fi lore, omniraptor does not even exist and whole game is JP wannabe. Diablo was always a counter part to allo since legacy and always will. And the way they handling Diablo now shows it. So whatever you want or think does not matter, sorry.
Nice to know that since its inception, the only time Biepi recived any kind of adjustment it has been nerfed
Ngl I forgot that thing even existed 💀
Dibble goes to 3 tonnes ...
*Suspicious Allo noises intensifies*
I like how dondi managed to make two good balance changes while also making two bad balance changes xd literally two steps forward n two steps back 💀
Tell me what are the bad changes?
@@kmp3-gaming986 I think beipei and diablo changes are the bad ones.
@@primalzerg6863The diablo changes are probably for when allo comes to the game
How does two omnis able to pin an fg cera make sense.
@@OGAmmoMonkey 450kg x2 = 900kg on your back, Cera weighs 1400kg so ye, also the Cera has to have low stamina to get pinned down
The Beipi nerf is kind of confusing.
Barely anyone plays them already, (cause like Hypsi they are basically just pkayable food)
So why make them even easier to catch and kill? Have too many escaped death therefore their species must be punished?
I get why Hypsi now has growth (nesting and etc) but part of me (based) feels like they just nerfed them...as now Hypsies (who already die when the wind blows) get to suffer and grow into a frail as fine china creature.
I guess they want Beipi to dive more and rely on underwater locomotion to travel quickly. And obviously, for Hypsi, they need to enable growth for mutation.
Well it doensn't impact that much since beipi never move like that. They always have been slower on surface than uderwater and surface is basically where deino hunt, they wait a prey to be on the surface. So idk why they made this change but it's not impactfull
For the Hypsi they alwais said it was gonna have a growth one days
Why did they add hipsi growth?
The Beipi change is so bad for surface movement
@@ChristopherAndersonPirate cause it wasn't fair for other small species like troodon or beipi.
For the beipi yeah those change are bad but it doesn't matter cause beipi dont traveling on surface or under but by jumping like daulphins
I'm confused on why they nerfed beipi's surface swim speed. Seems like it came out of no where. I've not seen but maybe one beipi since playing this past month.
you guys need to be hired by TI devs cuz those charts are clean af
thank yooou! i love doing charts lol
They also buffed Beipis stamina pool. It uses a lot less stamina now when sprinting.
Thats not a diet what the dibbles ate, thats straight up junkfood. Went from 1,5 to 3 tons
Lots of cerato-mayonnaise and omni-fries will get ya there if you skip the ptera-lettuce
diablo weighs 3 tons now?!?! jeez, im pretty sure it wenmt from being 1.5, to 2, to 3 which is an insane change in weight
I mean, allo is probably coming soon, so it makes sense
@@Daily-PE i think because of model
It’s prob a American Diablo 🤷
@@hallooos7585 thats crazy
Diablo should really eat less vegi burgers
continued balancing changes like these are good in testing and being made off testing results and not just emotions
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I definitely think they are preparing dibble for allo. That’s the second buff it’s gotten 😭😭
allo wont be in the game for a long time
@@lieutenanttrashcan4950 th-cam.com/video/-rVBfUgcCuw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jNDdBjguSkKeDJIb
You were saying?👀
it will be here soon, the stage is ready, the grapple is his skill so he will CUM
Awesome changes to grapple and really appreciate the changes to chuffing. I assume they implemented grapple how it was at first just for testing purposes, glad to see they made it a multi omni ability as this makes much more sense and requires skill to pull off. Lessening the stam for troodon latching is also great, lil guy needed it! So cute just hanging out on the teno hehe not gonna lie I'm a liiiittle sad that the south sanctuary is real now 😹 it was a great place to hide out haha I'm amazed they made hyspi spawn in as a juvie now! Super unexpected, but not unwelcome. Overall great changes, just don't love the beipi one. Seems unnecessary to me.
Thanks for another great video! the charts are helpful as always! hope this all comes to live pretty soon.
always here to help
Man... Beipei nerf feels rough man 😭what did da duck do?
he alrady slowr thejuvi dino under water
It’s only the surface swim speed, nothing else.
Making this out to be some terrible nerf is like saying that the terrestrial animal’s z walk is too slow.
You aren’t supposed to be doing that when you want to get somewhere quickly.
The actual method of traveling with beipei is, and always has been, the dolphin breach.
@@peasantkyr ok nerd
@@peasantkyr you lose alot of stamina, and is actualy not that good to travel.
@@Some1-2
yes. You expend much more stamina, in order to move at much greater speed.
That should not be a concern when a gator is currently on top of you.
Worried more about mileage?
Swim underwater.
Because that is also literally the same speed as it was in the prior patch.
We are talking about an animal with 3 to 4 different flavors of getting somewhere fast, and yet people are complaining about the single one that was nerfed.
Dolphin, Under the surface, Glueing yourself to the riverbed and sprinting, and running around on land are all the same.
Anyone who was surface swimming to get around before now, was putting themselves in a far worse position than most of the other options anyway.
It’s far easier to get chomped on while floating, because you’re moving in a predictable manner and easily seen.
Dolphin is easily seen, but far more difficult to time an ambush on, while swimming underwater is just infinitely better for stealth.
Even with all the ragging I’m doing on it, the surface swim still has a use. It’s the one you can use scent in, and the one where you can take a moment to observe your surroundings, neither of which requires you to go Mach 5.
I still think grapple needs a little bit more nerfing. It'd be better if Omnis needed to exceed the target's weight unless it is completely out of stamina. Because I feel like people forgot that Omni never NEEDED to be able to pin things down. Grapple didn't "finally make Omni good" it was already VERY strong specially in groups, it just made it overpowered.
Bro just hates omnis lol
There not overpowered if Dino’s like stego can easily hold against 4
@@christydavis1184 Stego is like 13 times the size of an Omni, fending off 4 of them shouldn't even be a challenge to it.
@@christydavis1184 Also no, I just don't have a bias towards Omni, because omni being able to pin down animals over 3-4 tons is not something anyone other than someone with a bias towards Omni would want.
20% stam is fine imo, but they do need to change the weigh threshold, at least 80% of or exceeding
Kouga, amazing video it was really entertaining
thank you :DD
@@KougaArt good informational video
Amazing changes 👏 a cool patch. Now the Omni grapple seem a bit balanced at least.
why nerf bepi???
W Kouga
Sanctuary change is incredible
Dang, I missed my chance to play an OP omni. Your videos are great keep them up
Mt bom Kouga
valeu meu nobre!!!
2 full grown omnis not being able to grapple baby dibble is a huge problem
they can't? must be a bug then
cant wait for this to come out on the public branch. Free admin servers are gonna go crazy
great video :)
missed you 💔💔💔
glad you're back!
@@KougaArt thank i upgraded my computer parts and now i have an RTX 4060 :)
@@Rathan0 omggg congratzz!! Its such a powerful gpu
tell me later how much fps you get! (and if youre struggling its because the game requires some easy fixing, like deleting the config folder)
@@KougaArt i get 100-110 fps at high settings sometimes even higher fps
Last night I pounced a galli and the camera went real far away from my omni when I got of the galli 😂
Remember in the last video you answered to me that you are waiting for maia.So, yes it will come but later than T-rex,trike,oviraptor (that will have mehanic to steal/eat eggs)maybe there will be Austroptor after and finaly might come Maiasaurus.Acutaly it's understantable cause I am waiting so much for Austroraptor but it's 50/50:(
everyone is saying Allo is next 😢😢
Great work as always. What do you think about the grapple. I personally think the exploit of having a small omni continue a grapple should be fixed but if the raptors weight is above a threshold and the Dino being grappled is around the same weight and low on stam a solo grapple should be possible.
gladly it's already fixed! But i think the 65% threshold is too low, should be higher
I love how when grapple first came out everyone freaked out saying they ruined the game when this is the testing branch. Like have some patience lol
Grapple is still op
Yay
I've heard that as a crocodile you can catch heavier prey than before if the prey swims, is that true?
yes, I've explained the mechanic in the other "update" video
why nerfing beipi speed what ????
as soon as you showed hypsi my heart dropped, i just knew. time to never play hypsi again lol. that goes for beipi too lol aahhhhhhhhh
hello,nice video
thank you!!
Hasn’t that sanctuary at south plains been there for a while? Like its there even outside of hordetesting
it has been there but was called "fake sanctuary", now it's official
@@KougaArt oh wild lmao, ive been around there a few times but never as a juvie does it like not have mushrooms or something?
@@specific3600 no and it didn't show up on the sniff GPS, and no bees
Do you think Grapple is better or still overpowered ?
still op, the 65% is too low... :(
needed something like 80%? 100%?
@@KougaArt You don't need to be equal weight to wrestle someone to the floor. And when you add more people/things pulling in different directions, it makes it even harder to defend against. 70% I could see, but 75% means you are big enough to wrestle something solo, albeit with difficulty. So 80-100% weight makes no sense especially when you consider multiple attackers.
@@KougaArt To me pounce is OP since it's spammable, I think it would be better if they implement again the if you miss you are stun + increase value.
I also seen some interessting idea where people said we could hold right click to prepare a pounce and realease to actually pounce. This way you opposant see if an omni is about to pounce.
hm, so two raptors on the side and one behind together could pin there prey if there 65% heavier or more. pretty neat.
I don't think the south plains sanctuary is new, I've been there loads on my Herrera on the public branch
it just didn't counted as a sanctuary, but now it actually has mushrooms spawning
@@KougaArt Ohhhh ok I get it sry for the misunderstanding
I still don't have the update, why?
change your beta to hordetesting
I still can’t play the dibble… is this a USA only?
nope, you just need to change your game to the horde testing branch.
right click the game in steam
properties
betas
horde testing
@@KougaArt omg thank you so much!
If they prohibited parents from nesting themselves in their own nest, atleast give them mutations like 1 per 2 courtships ffs.
Kouga vc acha q vão nerfa mais o glappe?
tomara que sim :/
Can you make the grapple chart downloadable please?
it's in my discord! you can join and get it and leave if you want ❤
@@KougaArt you usually post it on the official too, I thought you forgot.
But okey, I can take a look :P
Still alittle iffy with the size threshold for omnis two omnis can pin a majority of the roster without the stam being lower than 20% still pretty busted imo
Yall keep complaining when Omni’s in the wild Could easily accomplish this
@@christydavis1184 regardless if they could or not it’s not fun to get pinned by something that’s less then half your weight even if two are required. Like I said if the player being grappled stam was more apart of it instead of combining the Omni weight to negate any processes that need to be met to pin I want Omni to be capable but I don’t want it to be broken or easy which this grapple seems to do for them with some more tweaks it could be a good rewarding tool in omnis kit right now that’s not it
Buffing dibble to 3tons seems a bit silly? Now carnos cannot ram it and basically cannot kill a fully grown?
And they are not supposed to kill it. It'd a counter part to allosaurus, they are both a higher tier playables. Carnos and ceras should stick to their niche.
@@chaoticevil4038 allos not going to be added for a while so for balance reasons carno should be able to take a dibble on until allo is added
Dibble shouldn't be a counterpart to allow, it should be styraco. Dibble realistically nearly gets over a ton.
@@shmoo5322 2 tons was fine for it tbh idk why they changed it
@@shmoo5322 no one cares about what realistic or not. Mutations are part of si fi lore, omniraptor does not even exist and whole game is JP wannabe. Diablo was always a counter part to allo since legacy and always will. And the way they handling Diablo now shows it. So whatever you want or think does not matter, sorry.
So how i know cera got buff?
just stand near a corpse
@@KougaArt you dont get buff if somebody move corpse. Now when i find some, cant check if buff work.
Beipi didn't need that nerf
why havent i got the update guys?
this is hordetesting, if you want to play you need to change your beta to it
Why on earth did they feel the need to nerf my penguin boy, like seriously what haram did he cause 😢
What are they feeding our potato? He's gonna get obese, if he wasn't already :c
Diablo has a case of american obesity, going from 1.5 to 3 tons
playing with 120 ping is out of this world 😏
Whos that weirdo in there?
i think its ooops
@@KougaArt I CAUGHT YOU
Good, now make carno not useless.
3t is too much
The fatel error makes this game unplayable.. get off work grow for an hour and fatel error in the middle of a fight... im i the only one ?
sadly the hordetesting is filled with fatal errors right now :/
the normal evrima is stable? I havent played for a while
This is still just as horrible.