The Worst Fathers in One Piece RANKED!
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Don't forget that Yassop spent months if not a whole year in Fusha village, that is a skip and a jump away from Syrup Village, and yet he didn't visit his son.
Yassop was of more of a father to Luffy then Ussop
And freaked the fuck out over the mere thought of meeting Usopp post Wano.
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@@tobiaswedinLiam not mentioning this made me forget it's real
thought it happened in my head😂
All this Yassop slander. But you know, I suspect that given 10 to 20 years time, a lot of our straw hats boys would probably find themselves on this list. Luffy doesn't even know what a father looks like. So, if he had a kid, he'd probably just dump he/she with the mother and leave, or drop the kid off at Makino's bar if the mother was dead. Same shit for Zoro. As for Sanji, well we all know how he'll raise his kid (with a foot to the face). Plus, knowing him, he'd probably be unfaithful to his wife. Say less for Ussop, like father like son. He'll leave the child as an infant, and only come back when the child is in their twenties. Ussop probably wouldn't even see anything wrong with that. Franky might be a good dad....but only because Robin would string him by his you know what, if she ever caught even a whiff of that dead beat energy. Brooks doesn't have any equipment, so he's exempt. The only two strawhats that would make good fathers are probably Chopper and Jimbe.
0:27 Hopefully there would be a flashback arc for Dragon about his past and we might get to see his mother, the lady crazy enough to be with Garp and named their son after a dragon.
You keep making this comment on his videos but it's just not as funny as you think it is
@@fullmetalalcoholic6624frankly its not funny at all
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I'm very surprised that name Dragon is even legal considering how petty Tenryubito are
If Saturn turns out to be Bonnie's father, we'll need a whole new tier.
GENIUS
I don’t think it’s him or we’re getting into Beserk levels of messed up
@@Deathmare235To be honest, they already experimented on a baby while it was in the womb. It's kind of equally bad if it's his kid or someone else's
@@LunarPurin at least he can’t be worst father
@@Deathmare235 Garmadon solved that paradox best,
You can’t ruin a child’s life if you were never there.
"ever since he was a tiny little luffling" has to be the most hilarious way to say kid/child luffy
In Shanks' defense, I don't think he expected Gordon to be stupid enough to keep himself and Uta alone on Elegia for 12 years when he entrusted her to him (or to not clean up the fucking snails that had recorded the truth behind what happened).
Shanks is an idiot you know the red hair pirate are dads who are just running away from child support 😂
Honestly, true
Dragon is the exact opposite of a helicopter parent, like a submarine parent or smth idk
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😂😂 Submarine Parent 😂😂
You forgot to rank Garp lol. I guess not enough is known about how he parented Dragon, but as a grandfather he could be surprisingly abusive and absent. Or maybe it just comes off that way because him and Luffy seem to trigger each other?
Recent revelation hints that maybe he was actually a good parent to Dragon considering he did follow Garp's footsteps and became a Marine before being disillusioned by the government and leaving to become a Revolutionary 25 years before the current timeline.
In one piece blood relation does not (always) equal family. roger was shanks and buggy's father and he was a great one. Ace is the son of WB bonney is kuma's daughter nami and nojiko are the doughters of bell mere etc. The world government refers only to blood relation while the story doesn't.
I think it's significant when you rank fathers in One Piece.
Even in the case of the World Government officials children that aren’t biologically related are treated better than children are biologically related for example Koby and Helmeppo are treated better by Garp than people like Sabo, Luffy, Ace, and Dragon meaning that Akainu’s point of view that blood runs thicker than water is completely wrong as shown narratively all throughout the series.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr funny thing about about that saying; it actually has the opposite meaning of what everyone think it does. The full quote is "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb". Do with this information what you will.
@@nathansquared2685 , thanks for the full saying since I’ve never heard anyone say the full saying in full context before until you said it.
There are many great family bonds in One Piece that aren't built by blood, I agree. I don't think that it would make a difference for this ranking though. Roger knew he wouldn't be around to take care of Ace when he was planning to have him.
Found family trope.
I really, really hope, Yasopp and Usopp is gonna have an upgrade flashback or something, because before the mother dies, she did say something along the line that do not hate your your father or something ? So maybe she knows what's up, and I hope it will be the case that there are more reason than just simply abandon your family to be a pirate, I mean, in real life, people abandon piracy to have a family, this feel weird.
Maybe he was hoping to find a cure
and was to ashamed to go back
or he just doesn't know or care
anyway, it is going to be a funny conversation with ussop
Can't believe Liam forgot Sukiyaki only escaped after Kaido long killed Oden, nevertheless good video.
And he forgot he took care of tama, too. When he found her selling hats, after her parents died.
I don't think he liked this character, but everything else was good, lol
Exactly
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Most of the dads on this list definitely fall into (and in some cases deserve) that trope of "Shonen Father" common with most protagonists in that they're either absent or abusive. Rarely do we get the 'tried & failed' or 'unexpectedly good'
I'd like to point out that Sukiyaki was imprisoned during the early years of Orochi's reign, and Oden was already dead by the time he escaped.
i was going to point that out as well
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I was about to say that, but then I saw your comment. Yeah, Liam's reasons to rate Sukiyaki was way off, as Sukiyaki could do nothing in most situations Liam accused him of being absent. At best, he could be part of the raid, but instead he cared for children like Tama and Toko, so he should be actually rated a good dad.
An honorable mentioned for the tried but failed tier would be Garp. He does care for Ace and Luffy, but he was very hard on both of them (leaving them in the jungle, throwing them into ravines, tying them to helium filled balloons for some reason) and also came and went in their formative years, which contribuited Luffy's abbandonment issues. And then there are his actions at Marineford, which are an whole can if worms of its own. He has made pretty bad choices
Marineford would put him way down the list, and not to mention his almost abusive way of "raising" Ace and Luffy and yeah tossing them to mountain bandits, and Dragon clearly has a lot of daddy issues lol 😂(maybe.... most certainly Garp gave him the same "tough love" parenting)
@@AnimeKat8849Did garp do shit for luffy and ace as a parent
In defense of Homing, I genuinely don't think he had any way of knowing what kind of danger he was exposing his family to. Honestly, considering his behavior, I don't think the Celestial Dragons in general have any clue what the average people of the world think of them. Seriously, think about it, how could they find out? They can't ask each other since they all seem to be either uncaring or unaware of this, and when asked what they think commoners think of them, you'll most likely get some variation of two different answers. Either "They're basically animals, I doubt they're capable of thought" or "It's our birthright to rule them. They're surely just as happy to serve us as we are to be served by them". They obviously can't check libraries or newspapers to learn this, because no one would be stupid enough to put anything negative about the Celestial Dragons in print. They can't ask their slaves because the slaves would either lie about what they think out of fear for their lives, or lie in the hopes that the Celestial Dragons would do what Homing did and get themselves killed. Even most high ranked marines like Garp or Akainu would likely never speak the truth of what they think about the Celestial Dragons to their face because even though they're more than capable of taking care of themselves, being honest about it would likely end with them being branded a criminal and forced into a life of piracy just remain free from either prison or slavery. Yeah, Homing made what's probably the worst choice imaginable for his family, but if you really stop to think about it, I really don't believe he had any way of knowing or even suspecting that it was a bad choice. I honestly blame the extreme isolation of the Celestial Dragons, as well as the lack of info on the outside world (likely at least partially due to Imu and the Five Elder Stars) for what happened to the Donquiote family more than Homing himself.
Actually you're right. We had one CD get angry at a weakened slave saying "What would you do if something bad happened to me?" And immediately shot them.
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Actually, Garp seems to be the kind of guy who would say what he actually thinks, he is similar to luffy after all.
@falco05 No one is stupid enough to mess with Garp
0:25 Bro really ZOOMED past momma milkers Crocadile, yet gave us enough time to screenshot, drool over, then create an 18th century painting and hang it in the nearest mosque
I'm surprised there wasn't a mention of Kuina's father Koushirou
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I think Bege is the best father in the whole story. But I heard Kuma is a realy good one too.
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I’ll have you know that brooks dad was probably one of the finest people we could potentially meet. Brooks just not mentioned it….
The twist I need: classic father son reunion between Yasopp and Usopp.
Smiling, Yasop is confronting his fear of being a father and approaching Usopp for a hug
BAAM!!! Usopp clocks him right in the face! He's now a full blooded brave warrior of the sea by confronting his dead beat dad. I can see it so clearly
Im glad you didn't put Neptune on this list because he didn't deserve the slander of being called a bad father
Dude straight up tried to attack a Celestial Dragon when he tried to make off with his daughter knowing what the dangers of it.
Having your daughter being targeted by a violent and creepy stalker with the ability to throw everything at her definitely didn't leave him much options.
@@ShadeKirby500 exactly 💯
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What if the one piece is actually the fathers we lost on the way..
Kaido was a great and supportive dad. Aknowledging Yamatos ambition and treating him like he would have treated Oden, just like Yamato wanted.
If this is only biological parents then why is Shanks here? Didn't he find Uta in a box?
He fathered Makino's baby, so he is a father biologically. Yuta showcases his parenting abilities.
He said most, not all
"Lufling" is my favorite word of this video. I have added it to my vocabulary and will be using it frequently in the near future.
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@youngnaughtysoul It's... a manga. A Japanese comic/graphic novel kind of thing. Do you really not know? Asking a random comment on a TH-cam video seems like a very interesting choice, lol. There is a necessary visual element, though, so just listening to it may not really work.
"Here's a good idea: Lie to the child!" will live in my head rent-free for the rest of my life. The tone was perfect! 10/10
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I would move Yasopp to the Genuinely Terrible tier: Roger died and left his son with Garp, Dragon left his son with Garp and we know that, from time to time, he kept an eye on Luffy (vs Smoker in Rogue Town). Yasopp just left his son with his dying mother...
Also i would move Judge into the Tried & Failed tier: he was a monster to Sanji and did terrible stuff to him, but the relationship with the other sons, Sanji's brothers, is not that bad. He "simply" had a plan for his sons (he tried), succeded with some of them (Sanji's brothers) and failed misarably with Sanji
I'd agree with you for Yasopp, but I disagree for Judge. Judge had a plan, yes - turn his children into emotionless superweapons that faithfully obeyed his every order for slaughter. I think of Sanji's strength and kindness as what could have been for all the children if they hadn't had such a horrible father. Couldn't he have made them stronger without stripping them of humanity? During the tea party assassination, Reiji thinks her brothers & her would be better off dead because of how broken they are, they can't even feel the desire to live because that's just how they were raised. That's some A tier gawd awful parenting.
@@akaneakane1969 from a moral point of view you are right and I absolutely agree with you, but in this case the three brothers don't see their father as a negative figure. We could say the same about the celestial dragon father-son duo: they are absolutely terrible, horrible parenting from the father, but their relationship is good so the father ended up in the Unexpectedly Good tier
I don't believe Judge ever had a desire to raise children. All he wanted were super soldiers. You can't be anything more than a "worst dad" if you don't even view your children as humans in the first place.
I'm genuinely curious as to how Kaido would have raised Yamato if the whole Oden thing never happened. I don't think he'd be a good parent, obviously but I do get the feeling that a large amount of Kaido's treatment of Yamato stems from the specific desire that Yamato held. That is, to be Oden- in every capacity.
If I remember correctly Kaido did try in a relatively less murdery and outright soul-crushing fashion to break Yamato of the obsession but when Yamato doubled down Kaido sort of just went 'ok then, you're oden now lol get in the cave.' Or perhaps I'm misremembering the way that all went down...
Either way, awful dad but had Yamato not developed the opinions that led to that announcement then I'm curious as to see how they'd have all ended up. Ulti and Page One were sort-of, kind-of if you squint raised by Kaido and they turned out...
Eeeeh? They turned out eh. Ulti had a pretty familial opinion of Kaido so it can't have been worse than how he treated Yamato?
Maybe?
Yamato and Kaido's relationship was originally supposed to be a reflection/reference to "Oscar Francois de Jarjayes" and her father from "Rose of Versailles. Something Oda started reading around June 10, 2019 (as noted in Weekly Shonen Jump.) Oscar was a girl who was raised as a boy by her father in order for her to take his place as a military commander. Early sketches/designs of Yamato would have the position of "Kaido's male heir" forced on her for similar reasons, much to her annoyance, in which she'd remind Kaido and his crew that she was a woman. (See the original sketches of Yamato for reference and some dialogue.) Oda shifted Yamato's personality in a different direction in the actual manga, but retained the concept that Kaido's plan was to ultimately have Yamato take the male-only position of "Shogun" of the new country he wsa creating to serve as a base from which he could further expand his empire. Hence, declaring she was a boy.
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We definitely need a good father tier list. Or a tragic backstory tier list.
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What about stepdads or people that acted like parental figures (either a pt.2 or another tier list)? Corazon, Sengoku, Zeff, etc.
Bartholomew Kuma, Whitebeard (with his whole crew), etc
Dadan
@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoatThis video is about fathers. Dandan was a mother figure
0:30 There's no way this was made 5 days before Dragon's explination😂
Regular people: Hey, are you one of those people that everyone hates?
Donquixote: Oh my heavens no. I am a celestial dragon
after the Latest chapter, Dragon is actually Looking after Luffy Secretly so I cannot say that he's totally Deadbeat XD
I always thought judge's not just killing or abandoning sanji was like, the last vestige of his fatherhood and humanity.
After the chapter you have to change Dragon’s tier to unexpectedly good
Why? He essentially admitted that he cut Luffy out of his life because he was his "weak spot"
@@GrandLineReview oh shit you replied 😅, he’s willing to stay away to keep from putting Luffy in any position where the WG could use him against himself. Being though he knows something about the WG
What Liam said about the poster falling "ya know were just not gonna do this today"- all Fathers in One Piece
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Yassop is freaking out at the end of wano about meeting usopp though. He definitely seems to feel remorse about some aspects of leaving.
Oden dad was imprisoned, by the time he got out Oden was already dead and the Wano he knew was gone. One piece chapter - 1053 pg 7-9
Did not age well with dragon
You forgot Yasopp's end-of-Wano comment about not being ready to meet Usopp which would place him directly in the Genuinly Terrible category!
what did that "I'm sorry you had me as a father.........TOTHEPIRATEKINGNOW" absolutely kill me
When you said you'd rather have a lack of parenting than bad parenting, I felt that too hard
now that its confirmed that Queen is Franky's dad he should definitely be added to the list. Love these vids by the way. Keep up the good work! On to Elbaf!
What about Lola and Chiffon's father Pound who tried all his life to meet his children but never could. He cared so much for them and is a tragic character
For sukiyaki im pretty sure he was trapped until after odens battle, the rest is on him tho
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Welp the video might need an edit after 1101 leaks 👀
First of all Kaido is a great dad and he has a bond with Yamato that is called Hard love. Second yassop doesn't need a reason to abandon ussop cuz who can say No to daddy Sanks exe these it was a great video and I like your content a lot (also something indeed important you mentioned wrong is that shanks never stoped tot-musica Uta just didn't have enough stamina for it to last long cuz she was a child. That is mentioned in the backstory of the incident but also tot-musica needs a two party squad in the dream world and the reality to hit at the same time in the same spot to DMG him.) Great video tho
1:11
Audio: "Hey hack!"
Editor: "I don't have a Hack cutout picture and I don't want to get one so let's just put Ivankov. No one will know."
I'm legit sure this is what happened. XD
Surprised Capone Bege isn't on here. Dude is an awesome father and he clearly loves his son
I just realized, Luffy's entire personality would have been ruined or stifled by helicopter parents.
LMAOOOO EVERY TIME I REMEMBER THE FEAR ON HIS FACE TO SEE USSOP. EVERY TIME
I'm fully expecting Yasopp to have a tragic backstory as to why he left and we're all going to look back feeling bad we judged him too quickly.
" spawn point " was personal 💀💀😭😭
I have a strange feeling the Dragon is a bad dad thing wont age well when the next chapter comes out. I could be wrong though...
0:26 casually slide in mommy croc in there. i like it.
Hey Liam, there's a dialogue in the first eps of OP that Shanks says "We are pirates, not saints".
Come see check the gods-knights silhouette and maybe it will prove something.
I was also suprise to see Beige being a pretty good dad xD
I'll hold off on judging Shanks too harshly until we get some idea of what happened to Uta in the canon series since, to my knowledge, Oda made Uta canon but not the events of Film RED, which I assume includes the backstory.
For all we know, Uta could retroactively be on their ship or maybe she left willingly to pursue her dreams. Or maybe Oda just won't do anything with her, but I feel like he wouldn't declare her as canon if he didn't plan on putting her somewhere.
Let's not forget that Kaido also publicly executed one of his underlings for giving kid Yamato food. I know it wasn't technically in the manga and only in the anime, but that was something that Oda wanted to put into the story but didn't have room to.
Really hope this means we're getting a good dads tier list soon. Kuma, Zeff, Cobra, Pagaya, Kuma, Whitebeard, Neptune, Kyros, Gancho, Kuma, Pound, Yasuie, Oden, and Kuma definitely deserve it.
Not sure if you mentioned Kuma, but we should mention Kuma cause I don't see him mentioned in this comment yet. Kuma would be a great candidate to bring up. Why hasn't anyone mentioned him yet?
Film Red really made Shanks look bad; it's worst if you factor in the fact that Uta is probably still stuck on that decimated island with festering abandonment issues
I feel like Whitebeard belongs on this list, he claims to have so many children that he loves but was filling to risk everyone knowing many would die just to save 1 of his kids, basically willing to trade maybe a couple hundred to a couple thousand for 1, and this single action caused himself and hundreds of his kids to die, along with the one he was trying to save, and later it caused many more of his kids to die all just because he tried to save 1
Whitebeard has only 1 rule on his ships: don't kill a fellow crew member. Presumably, if they weren't willing to go to war for Ace, they could happily sit it out. Everything we see indicates he only takes fairly strong pirates into his family anyway. He also freed his allies from Aokiji's ice and told them that they are free to leave if they want. Most likely they all just wanted to save Ace that much.
@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat but a good dad wouldn’t let his children risk their lives and would try to save as many as he could
If Kuro ever comes back into the story, just know that it's some bs about how Yasopp had things set up for Usopp but some pirate messed that up.
My copioum theory for Yassop is that he went searching for the same thing as Chopper and his wife died before he could find it.
Maybe he wants to find the cure-all so no one dies from her illness again. Maybe he promised to never return without it…
That might be why Usopp kept saying there is a magic medicine and that his dad would come back… they might be related.
One father in this show could be the man marked in flames. St figarland garling. The road poneglyph on fishman island was taken away within 25 years. Otohime (old queen of fishman island) went up to the Mary geoise to make a deal for peace. The government could have very well received that road poneglyph to keep pirates 1 piece away from finding the One Piece. Just like shiryu suggested the man with burn scar was a part of the government. The most I can say about an actual burn scar was Garling receiving it during god Valley and oda doesn't want to fully reveal who it is. The all black ship can match his mostly black outfit. The sinking of ships that come near his ship is very much celestial dragons behavior as shown of the celestial dragon sinking Sabos ship when he tried leaving goa kingdom. The whirlpools that is mentioned for man marked by flames could relate back to Garlings very unique hair style. We know garling was the champion of God valley and the champion would get a very powerful devil fruit. If he ate a moon moon or a tide tide fruit it could link his hair style with his powers. The real Naruto straight is an area in Japan where the moons gravity affects high and low tides causing natural whirlpools to occur. Garlings young hair could mean high waves and old man hair is of course referencing the moon. Shanks could very well be trying to play both sides but this could also explain how shanks traveled from fighting kaido to marineford so fast by giving his papa a call. Shanks also doesn't seem to be concerned with finding the man marked by flames like the other remaining emerors. And just to finally rule out dragon as the man marked by flames is when blackbeard attacked the revolutionary army is could be assumed that blackbeard was looking for red poneglyphs(don't think burn scar man was planned at this point lol). Let me know what you guys think 😁
Garling being the one to kill mjosgard would be very interesting if mjosgard was the one that got him the road poneglyph from fishman island
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Another Liam video for my morning shift . Thank you for making this day a little better
Best thumbnail in a while, lol
I like the video. My only issue is that the teir list labels basically make it obvious where someone's going, so I think a more vague or traditional S to F list would be more intresting, but still fine for a video
Spandine is actually a good dad... I forget that sometimes😂
Dragon is good base on his position.
I’ve watched this one through a couple times now, and all I can think of is a ranking or discussion video on mentors
I could of sworn that glr already did a video ranking the bad dads in one piece, I even remember leaving a comment saying something to the effect of one piece fathers are so bad they make ging look like worlds best dad
I’m gunna say I think Rodger naming ace after his sword was more of a proud title. Ace obviously had to go blade to blade with white beard, rocks, garp, shiki and god knows who else. From my POV he named him ace to show how powerful he could be, even as strong as the king of pirates.
What an oddly interesting week to release this 😂
The worst thing about Yassop in my opinion is the fact that Yassop told Luffy about Ussop instead of going to Ussops place while the Red Haired Pirates were in the east blue anyways
I have never felt more connected to a TH-cam video title then now
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6:17 a Omen moment
I'm glad that you listed shanks and yasop as bad dads. I dond't like it when people make excuses for bad fathers. After movie red I felt like you and genually disliked shanks a great deal. And the newest chapter where he is presented as a really good man only confuse me.
Why is it confusing? His quality as a father has nothing to do with how he is beyond that. Much like Spandine's quality as a father has nothing to do with character outside of that relationship.
What's with a Canon adaptation? A film red be like?🤔
That Luffy picture just wants to be free! Just like my Luffy poster tried a few times... It's theyr fate
Ngl, a little sad you didn't add Corazon to this list for Tried & Failed, given that he did his best to save Law, but also continuously retraumatized him. And for the fact that he would also be a third dad that Doffy killed.
That makes me think what if shanks was planning to feed ace the nika fruit because he also thought that ace is gonna safe the world like Roger 😮
Dam my boy Bege Capone got snubbed
Not York causally being snuck in as a Celestial Dragon 😂
1:11 The editor forgot to put my favorite charachter hack on screen
im furious
Keep up the awesome work and videos Liam love the video
Liam, dude, you should know better than to say that about Yamato phrased it that way.
She’s cosplaying as Oden basically, and at the end of Wano she said “call me Yamato”, which means she’s done “playing the role” because she accomplished what Oden couldn’t, beat Kaido and free Wano (and soon) to open the borders.
Was surprised when the video ended, then realized that this was only a ranking of the bad dads of One Piece. I was waiting for rankings on Genzo, Zeff, Tom, Garp, Hiriluk, Cobra, etc. So, now we need a "Good/Decent Dads" list, right?
Props to the Best Dad in the Series: Choppers Reindeer Dad
They will do anything for their dream and their dream unless your named whitbeared or kuma is not there
Odens dad was imprisoned underground and wasn’t released until after the whole oden dying and his family hunted thing happened
I love that you make content purely to entertain us.
You're the goat. Hope you won that contest, but you would've announced it
"tiny little Luff-ling" is the best thing I've heard today 😂
Good Dad list:
Cobra
Hmmmm, is that it?
I need a Yasopp and Usopp reunion like I need air to breathe. It's a long overdue one
I heard that Oda had stated that Yasopp doesn't know about Banchina being dead... which is in no way a redeeming thing. But yeah, poor Usopp...
to be fair to dragon keeping a child around when he revolting against the world government is a real good way of getting said child killed so by having the marine grandpa take care of him dragon is essentially doing everything he possibly can as a father
Dragon stopped Luffy's execution by Buggy. He should be higher than absent
Amazing video!!