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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- A visit to the cinema Rigoletto Stockholm Sweden.
In the projection room again (Last time was when we showed Dunkirk.)Now i will unpack 7 rolls of 70mm film of JOKER.
This time i show how i put cue marks at the end of each filmroll.
This is because Rigoletto has kept both of its projectors DP 70.
And thrown out the plates instead. Contrary to what most cinemas around the world have done. As a projectionist it feels very good to be able to run movies with two projectors, the Philips DP70. And switch between them as in the old days.
In this movie i show how the film is unpacked, winding it up on our film wheels and marking the respective rolls with cue marks. This is to be able to see when to start the other projector when switching.. This is done six times at each performance.
But we start with a walk into the foyer and auditorium at Rigoletto
Hope you like this short film, which may be perceived as a bit slow.
Thank you for keeping this art form alive and prospering!
Film is FAR from dead. I highly doubt it will ever die off
@@NoCluYTI hope so very much.
we need a guy like this in every movie theater, this is quality work 🔥
I AM SPEECHLESS! This is awesome, is history in modern times. I dropped my jaw on the floor when the projectors switched and how the change is made, cues, etc.
Got my admiration.
These technicalities are so amazing. This work needs to be appreciated more.
Great video. Joker is one of the best movies ever as well as one of the best in surround sound. I wish i could've seen it in 70mm. Great channel. Your movie theater looks great.
You gotta watch more movies.
Philip J. Fry if he thinks it is, it is for him. there is no best film of all time, it is all just opinions
@@PhilipJFry-zt3yw you gotta watch less.
@@Isaac-gf3jt nah, I expect someone to say I have objectively bad taste for liking Space Jam. And I still like it. Same applies to the Joker. Except there, it actually is a compitent film.
Tusen tack, fin inblick på hur det är där bakom då vi såg Oppenheimer 70mm på Rigoletto i Stockholm.
Tack för det. För oss som jobbar i maskinrummet med detta är det en stor skillnad, mycket handpåläggning. Rigoletto har ju en stor duk passande detta format, biografen byggdes 1939.
Thanks for sharing your video,from my young school days I had projectors I’m now 63,I remember the Bell and Howell 16mm Filmosound projectors.
Beautiful theatre. I love the DP-70s and enjoy running a pair of them on occasion. I think that 2001 was the last 70mm I showed, which was a year or two ago.
I have always been interested in film 🎥 l must admit I prefer film too digital all the different formats and lenses and how the film Hollywood studios had their different versions 😊and the colour so vibrant 😊
Sir, your work is amazing! Loved the video
Thank you for sharing. Great work!
great video, the theater looks comfy, I love the wood finish at 10:44
A good projectionist is worth is worth his weight in gold.A lovely video Thankyou
Fantastic ! ✨️🖤
Thank you for posting this Great Video !
Jag är endast här för jag var och såg Oppenheimer på Rigoletto ikväll på 70mm. Sjukt imponerande hantverk att se ett sådant proffs jobba. Förhoppningsvis inte en döende art av film & filmkunskap... Oppenheimer var 6 rullar för övrigt & Tack för att du laddat upp dessa och har kvar dom så alla kan se!!! Guld.
Kul att du besökte Rigoletto för att se 70mm. Det är ett häftigt format och spännande att få vara med om detta. Oppenheimer består av 9 enkel akter om ca 20min per rulle
Long live celluloid film!
Thanks for this, Goran. I loved, and had a sweet happy chuckle when you opened the box, at 2:07, and the box didn't stay open. It reminded me of silent film comedies. ♥️♥️♥️
Ha,ha. Thanks for that comment, have not thought of this as silent film slapstic. But that can certainly be the case.
I remember being a little irritated that the cardboard side did not want to stay in the open position.
It was actually the first box that was opened, so I'll keep it anyway.
@@utjtrain1376 it was perfect. ❤❤❤ God bless you Goran. If, by God's grace and favor, I ever visit the Rigoletto, I pray we can say hi.
Film have solid picture quality.Digital is hd but look cheap and shakey,tv series vlogging mtv quality.
When I saw Star Wars on it's release I saw black oval marks. Thank you. I am your 727th sub. PS: that is a sweet theater.
great videos bro
I am surprised and impressed to see big film is still alive and delighting audiences throughout the world.
At 5:19 you can see the FotoKem slate and Kodak Laboratory Aim Density chart, starring Marcie the color reference girl.
FotoKem is one of the few labs on the planet that can still produce a theatrical film print. A little research turns up that they purchased a Celco Fury film recorder in 2003. To the best of my knowledge, only a CRT film recorder like the Celco can record the full 52.63 mm image width for the 65mm format. This would have been used to print the digital intermediate to 65mm film. This negative would be used to create many 70mm theatrical prints by conventional contact printing.
Typically, film is always wound emulsion-in. I'm a little surprised that the projectionist chose to twist the film to make marks on the emulsion side. Also, maybe emulsion out projects slightly sharper on screen.
The video is great. But why on earth does the prjectionist have to draw the markings for "the change" himself? Since when does the copying plant no longer do this? That's so ridiculous.
Joker was shot on an alexa 65 camera which has a resolution of 6.5k, on the other hand Todd-AO 70mm film has a resolution of 8k so seeing this movie on this format still has an advantage.
I think - with about 95% certainty - it was actually shot on the Sony Venice-2 (8k). Besides, if the original material was shot in a lower resolution than it's being scanned at, the scanning would add no extra detail or sharpness as it cannot create what is not there.
Nice!👍😃
🙏Supersir👍
Adding "extra" cue marks on the film, when these are printed on at the lab is considered poor projectionist technique.
He also seems to be mixing emulsion-in with emulsion-out handling, by using S-winds at 4:50 and 6:43, while visible running straight-over in the projector at 10:08.
Adding "extra" labels at 4:43 is considered poor projectionist technique, particularly in that the print is brand new, and is already perfectly labeled.
These are textbook examples of why filmprints looked so bad after rumnning through your local movie house for only a few weeks.
Looks like a days work to finish one movie. Hope you have AC in there.
Yes we have a type of AC. But it was installed when the cinema went digital.
Do not think it was very hot in the projector room before the digital came. This engine room is
relatively large. Also has its own air system for the engine room from 1939
Film is an artform and should be kept alive.
Agree.
Thing is that probably EVERY 'film' you've ever seen was produced from a DIGITAL file. Even if the movie was originally SHOT on 35mm, it was still most likely SCANNED to create a DIGITAL format so they could add all the CGI & colour correction etc., before being finally being printed BACK onto film for the few theatres that want to exhibit using film projectors...
I wonder which was the the LAST movie to be completely SHOT AND MASTERED on FILM? And then reproduced for distribution entirely from a film source?
Thank you for the video, nice to look at. I see the cue marks were marked on a clear part of the image, sky I think. How do you mark it when the frame is dark?
Glad you're thinking about this.
On Joker part 2, it was such a place that was hard to draw a wax crayon mark on. It was dark on the whole right half of the picture unfortunately, but that can be the case sometimes. To keep the standard distance on the cue marks, I had to make a small scratch with a sharp needle in the upper right corner of the image. Which means that on the screen this is seen as a small white line. When the copy of Joker was ready for return to the film company, I wiped off all the wax crayon marks and painted over the scratch with a black felt tip pen.
You can of course move the starting point closer to the end of the roll and at the same time put the starting position closer to the projector that is next in line. Instead of eight on the count down leader, you go for the 7th or the 6th. Or you do the opposite and then you end up at 9 or 10 on the leader.
But I think it's best to stick to the standard, because after a while you forget and go to eight in the starting position. Then the audience has a number of black frames to look at.
@@utjtrain1376 Thank you for your comprehensive reply. I remember back in the fifties sometimes missing the first of the cue marks that came on every twenty minute reel. The audience would stamp their feet in time with the 6, 5, 4, 3 countdown on the screen. Happy days.
I've seen a lot of old movies on TCM, and you can see the cue Mark's if you look closely. I thought they were put on the film during developing. Another idea of how to do this would be a bit of magnetic ink that you could mark on the edge of the film. On the projector there could be a magnetic reader that would read the magnetic ink and make a beeping sound that the projectionist could here through a speaker or headset to alert for change over.
What happened to using good old 'cigarette burns' in the corner to alert the projectionist when it was time to change reels?
I am confused. Joker was shot on a digital format?
Is it a done thing in film that a movie will be shot in digital and then scanned on to a film in order to then be projected through a hard format rather than digitally?
Sorry if this is a rookie question, I can't work out how to phrase my search term on Google!
Nowadays most, movies are now shot on a digital format and shown in theaters digitally. Widespread printing on film has been phased out almost 10 years ago. Nowadays, the studio will only make a few prints for special screenings like this, and also create a separate negative strip to store in a vault as a backup.
@@losangeleskingsfan15 thanks for explaining that for me. When I worked in online editing for high end drama we would store rushes and stuff long term on LTO tapes. Is this the same with the movie industry nowadays too? I've heard netflix for example have a big cold storage facility somewhere in california for this type of thing.
@@ConstantThrowing I haven't heard of LTO tapes being used for digital films, but it wouldn't shock me if they are. I do know that old video games (if they were even archived at all) were stored on digital tapes. Years ago, the master code for a popular PS2 game was discovered in an unlabeled shoe box.
@@losangeleskingsfan15 it's odd isn't it! These IBM tapes are like either 4TB per tape or maybe larger now. Apparently it's the most resilient format if stored correctly. It really shocked me to see, and there are many people I study with now who haven't come across tape backups either.
Haha amazing, I think I remember reading about it. Also, speaking of tapes. I had some sort of tape based console years ago... can't remember the name, but it ran by playing a cassette tape 😅
@@losangeleskingsfan15 And even movies still SHOT on FILM, will usually be scanned to create a DIGITAL version so they can add all of CGI/SFX, before the movie is printed BACK onto film for theaters still interested in projecting film...
I mean, I understand that many people feel that shooting on 35mm/70mm still produces a higher quality image than even the BEST digital cameras. However, is there still a quality difference between displaying a movie from 70mm film rather than using a DIGITAL projector?
Is this the real silver film? Or the film is re-printed digitaly? Other wise how do they add digital seens like Intersteller did!? 🤔
How is a digital image printed onto the film? Is it by a laser process or something?
You're right there, it's a laser that draws a negative image on a film strip. This strip is copied into a
positive film strip, as they did in the good old days. Which will be our film copy. This negativ is lasered in 4k resolution.
@@utjtrain1376 Thanks for replying! I didn't know they made a negative. Makes sense since they probably want to preserve that analog look.
What happens if accidently something went wrong with film before devloping??
Do you have to return the film, or is it bought?
Yeah the print is rented from a distributor, and is sent back after the run is over. Good thing too, 70mm prints can cost well over $15,000!
If the movie was shot digitally, how can it be shown on 70mm film?
@Elijah York Absolutely. Plus you get a natural film grain added to the movie.
They originally wanted to shoot it on 70mm but warner bros turned that down and Todd Phillips was very adamant about shooting it in 35mm but warner wanted the movie as low budget as possible cause they thought it would be hard to sell if it was on film
Optical printers.
@@mohamedashian604 Yeah, the real question is, what's the benefit of distributing a movie produced with 6.5K digital cameras on 70mm film?
My guess is that it's still EXTREMELY expensive to purchase commercial digital 'movie projectors' that are capable of displaying an image with the same quality you'll get from this old 70mm film projector?
@@StreetPreacherr as of this post, cinemas are at most 4k while the low budget ones are only 2k (slightly higher than 1080p) (ignoring 3d where its a claimed perceived 8k using 2 4k projectors operating in 3d)
how do you sync the audio with such change over techniques?
The audio is put onto the film itself. See that transparent stripe at the side of the tape? That's where sound is stored. But unlike super 8 and 16mm and even some other 70mm films it isn't magnetic, it's optical (that's why it's transparent). I think this one has digital audio on it because the stripe looks almost like a barcode, instead analogue optical audio looks like a sound wave. Not sure though, I'm not an expert
@@theredfoxtv8815 This is correct. The soundtrack is Datasat (formerly DTS) which is an interlocked timecode that is printed on the film like you described. A DTS XD-10 player on the sound rack carries the soundtrack on either discs or a USB drive, and a DTS reader on the film path reads the timecode to sync the soundtrack. Mag striping is no longer done for 70mm film soundtracks so any new prints will have to have a Datasat soundtrack, however 70mm magnetic tracks can still be played on existing prints through projectors that have magnetic soundheads.
@@jasonwhytemedia I heard that some dts sound tracks come on a separate DVD shipped with the film. I guess a CD does not hold enough data for all of the neccessary channels.
But this Movie was shot on digital right
What happens to the reels when the film is done being shown?
The copy we showed on Rigoletto has the film company decided to deposit at the Swedish Film Institute, fortunately.
Aren't the audience gonna see the labels
The cue marks are as visible to the audience as to the projectionist, but it's amazing how regular moviegoers normally ignore them. Projectionists, though, notice every cue mark even when they're only watching the movie e.g. on TV. (Of course, only old movies have cue marks nowadays.)
@@mumiemonstret I never noticed the cue matks
@@thesmilingman7576 They were often less obtrusive back in the days. A steady black circle with a very thin white border in the upper right corner of the frame, for four frames (1/6th second). The wax markers were only used in the rare cases where the laboratory for some reason didn't copy those more professional looking marks onto the film stock.
@@mumiemonstret ok
Digital projetor ?
70mm film projector
No
@@csjcsj2906 Yeah, I wonder what the current price is for a 4k(8k?) DIGITAL projector that can produce an image comparable to 70mm film projection?