This is an analysis to figure out the pros and cons of the slavic draw + arrows held in string hand. 5 years ago I was a lot better at this technique but now I have transitioned to heavier bows, so I thought it would be a good idea to revisit this speed shooting technique with heavier bows. In the previous video 125lbs was simply too heavy to shoot rapidly so I decided to drop the draw weight to 70lbs. let's see if it made a difference
Also have you thought of bamboo 1/2in diameter or playing with different diameters. It was the ancient version of carbon arrows, hollow and strong for its size
Jack .....your still watching your self nock .....it's slowing you down...more than you know....and jeez do you think your nocks go on hard enough I could hear the click from here.....it shouldn't take much to get the nock seated .........and stop watching yourself nock !!!!! You are a damn good archer Jack..time to take it up a notch
@Combat Archery USA you complain about my videos but watch and comment every video for the past 6 years I upload and downvote them. like I said, if you don't like my videos why are you still watching? move on man
@Combat Archery USA have you seen warbow vs gambeson video. with enough layers cloth is surprisingly effective against arrows. he likely stuffs his pillows with rags/vinyl to stop arrows
@Combat Archery USA a proper full size archery target is too heavy to bring on-site along with all that archery gear. you can shoot at dirt if you want to be honest, why you care so much about the target. this video is not about penetration test, its about shooting fast. jack shoots faster than you bo, just suck it up and move on
I like that this guy actually shows the target and has ok accuracy, many speed shooters I see don't show the camera so u have no idea where the arrows went
@Combat Archery USA why do you need a proper archery target? who cares. whats wrong with pillows? with enough of them it will stop any arrow. and what do you know about whats inside the pillow. it is likely stuff with rags or stuff that stops arrows
@Combat Archery USA the target is a modified couch cushion with rugs stuffed inside. its cheaper than archery targets. i didn't think anyone care so much about the quality of target I'm shooting lol. people at the range prefer me to shoot my own targets because I damage the public targets too quickly
@Combat Archery USA He's not testing the effectiveness of armor dude. He's investigating his own archery techniques. Who cares what he's using for a target as long as it's reasonably safe?
@Combat Archery USA you complain about my videos but watch and comment every video for the past 6 years I upload and downvote them. like I said, if you don't like my videos why are you still watching? move on man
@Combat Archery USA you complain about my videos but watch every video I upload and downvote them. like I said, if you don't like my videos why are you still watching for the past 6 years? move on man
Getting more awesome I see. I made my 2nd ever knife sheath by learning from making my second one watching youtube videos. You and I ate awesome video games are fun but gaining real life EXP points means we get cooler.
I've been practicing with the Slavic Release for some time too. It's just so much fun! If I may, here's some advice: you need to be able to have the arrows aligned in the correct orientation for the nock to be perfectly perpendicular with the string every time. I notice that the times you stutter and loose speed is in the moment of nocking. I've been through the same problem. The best way to fix this I could find, without having to fiddle with the arrows in your hands after each draw from the quiver (I draw 3 at a time from the quiver), and only then start the shooting process, is to use a special quiver. The quiver has a small elastic "wrap" that goes around each arrow individualy. This makes the arrows firmly secure in the quiver, so you can set then properly beforehand in the quiver, in a way so that when you draw them, they are sure to be in the right rotation so that the nock will find the string in the right orientation. This speeds up the shooting tremendously, because you always nock fast, and in time, you won't even have to look at the string to nock properly. Another technique you can try, is to hold the arrows in the draw hand with the pointing finger over the arrows, instead of under them. It may feel awkward at first, but with little practice you will see how you can hold them much more securely and always pointing forwards, which prevents them wiggling around. Note that you to be able to hold them in this manner they've got to be 2 fletched. It's really impressive and inspiring to see you shooting Slavic with such heavy bows. I achieved pretty nice speed already, but only with 40~50Lb bow. Gonna start to work on building up the weight! Love your videos, keep them coming!
thanks for the response, i find by using a quiver instead of held with string hand, I can blind nock ( I have time to feel the nock). this could be explored in future videos. the reason why I cant blind nock while holding arrows at the nocks is because there are too many arrows so it is difficult to feel 1 out of the 5 arrows. its much easier when u only hold one arrow at a time, which I believe is the intention of the slavic draw
regarding "Another technique you can try, is to hold the arrows in the draw hand with the pointing finger over the arrows, instead of under them.'" I ve noticed lars and martin prefers this but when I try it I am never as accurate as conventional slavic. the issue for me is the arrows have a tendency of falling off, maybe it is the orientation of my bow arm that gives it a torque? I'm unsure but would like to work on that technique. unfortunately that variation has no historical documentation so I don't know if it would be appropriate for my channel
@@HistoricalWeapons Totally agree on the historical point. Maybe because of the necessity for the 2 fletched arrow. They noticeably take longer to stabilize in flight with only 2 fletchings, certainly taking a toll on the energy and reducing the power of the shot. About drawing from quiver: In my opinion, it's much more historically plausible. Specially when talking about heavy bows, used in war. From my experience I can draw much heavier and accurately without reserve arrows in the draw hand. Imagine taking it to horseback shooting. Furthermore, the Slavic release already allows me to be fairly fast while shooting drawing from the quiver. Definitely not worth the compromise in power and accuracy for a little more of speed. But despite all that, it's just so much fun, feels and looks so cool to draw from the hand. =D
@Combat Archery USA combat archery like I said, stop watching my videos if you don't like it. not sure why you keep making response videos to rant at me. you have been ranting at me for the past 6 yrs. like come on, not even my exes bother me that long
Excellent display, Jack, and good arguments. I concur with your points, as accuracy and reliability are just too compromised. You were managing about ~2.5 seconds per arrow, I think, which is really impressive if this is what you consider being out of practice. Still, John Schulz with a bow of unknown weight managed a Med draw at ~1.77 seconds on average, albeit the bow was probably lighter (I forget the weight), and Ken Hicks was managing about 3 seconds per arrow with a longbow, so as you say the speed advantage seems negligible compared to the downsides. There may be a specific moment where one archer could use it, but the vast majority would never see that happen. You could shoot one or two arrows rapidly in a panic, before retreating behind the infantry, for example... but it would be better to take a little more time aiming your last shot, so you hit a horse or a man, before you retreat. Even at range for suppression, it's just not useful to suppress enemies from a great distance, it's too exhausting to shoot quickly, and arrows aren't cheap. A mounted archer might suppress a group of men from up close, as he retreats, but then I'm not certain the unorthodox draw would be stable enough for mounted combat. For modern day, I wouldn't consider it good for hunting, as you need to make sure your first shot hits, and maybe you get a second if you're lucky, but you'd be better to practice shooting thumb or Med quickly (as mentioned, John can shoot it quite fast). For self defence... not really. The inaccuracy is enough that you're likely to miss even at close range, particularly under stress, and at close range you are unlikely to be able to get a second or third shot, which makes the speed shooting pointless. Thanks for sharing your research with us, Jack.
Very nice video, thank you! I would love to see if you could adapt Martin Spörri's arrow holding technique with your heavy monster war arrows!? Holding these heavy arrows at the nock generates a lot of leverage. Holding the arrows in/with your palm, at the point where the (only two) fletches are, is maybe more feasible concerning the leverage problem. I assume you could manage to hold at least three heavy arrows using Martin's technique :-) .
Martins technique does not have any historical documentation which is why I’m reluctant to do for a channel focused on historical archery. It seems Lars also prefers that way. I have tried it but can’t shoot accurately because the arrow needs to be twisted. If I don’t twist the arrow they fall off the shelf. I’m in contact with Martin to figure out his technique
@@HistoricalWeapons Thank you for your answer. Fair enough argument, I did not think about that. On the other hand: even if we have no written or pictorial historical evidence on this technique it could still be possible that it was a common technique in specific war/battle situations for at least some of the ancient cultures since it's somehow (kind of) "natural" to invent or figure it out and does not need additional technical equipment like i.e. the Panjegan (ok, the war arrows are/were maybe still too thick/clumsy or too heavy to do it). If you'll manage the technique with heavy arrows you'll prove that it COULD have been possible even for ancient archers with their war bows. With thumb draw technique you "twist"/push the arrow with the curved index finger against the shelf. With the slavic "two under" technique you "only" press your straight index finger horizontally against the arrow and that pushes the arrow against the shelf - than sliding the finger along the arrows towards the nock. The simultaneously applied wrist torque (see below) from your bow hand works as a counter weight to that. But again - maybe does not work with thick and heavy arrows. Concerning accuracy: this may can be increased when using Martin's full torque technique on the wrist of the bow hand to get rid of the archers paradox (not Armin's "forward"/vertical kathra but Martin's full power sideways/horizontal wrist "kathra/torque"). As a very neat side effect the spine of your heavy arrows is not relevant anymore, only the correct weight. But I doubt that this can be done with the needed pressure/power on a +100 lbs war bow?! Anyway, the historical archery study goes on, keep up the excellent work!
A nice test, and reasonable conclusion. But I can't help but notice your nocking technique feels kinda clumsy. It's hard to explain but, grab the arrow with the thumb and index and just slide the string under your thumb and back the nock onto the string. it's safer and faster. Check out Armin's video on nocking, you'll know what I mean when you see it. Keep the interesting videos going. Best wishes :D
that technique works if you dont have other arrows held in your hand, i use that when i pull each arrow one by one out of the quiver, but when u hold multiple very diffiuclt to do and clumsy
@@HistoricalWeapons I'm talking about nocking one arrow at a time. You still do it by holding on to the shaft far from the nock. Seen it in a few videos already. You seem to know what I'm talking about. Just trying to help here 😁
I was curious, what's your accuracy with a 70 or 120 bow at long range? (like +70m) Do the historical sources mention some expected standard of accuracy?
I haven’t tested that distance with this technique. This technique is designed to shoot as fast as possible, not to shoot accurately. I’m more confident hitting a target at 70 yards with med draw
For ottoman archers, hiting puta target (grape shape target, in size of human torso with head) evry time at 70m, was consider as minimum to call someon good archer.
Какой смысл в наше время использовать сильные луки? Тезники выстрела и точности попаданий с мощными луками нет и трудно этого достигнуть. 50 фунтов более чем предостаточно.
Holy shit first of all wonderful shooting I can’t imagine how your back and shoulders look together they gotta be built like a fucking God second of all you can see the power of that first bow because it shakes your whole fucking body for a sec there’s kickback third of all you went from 100 some odd pounds to 70 pounds and you were like this is a breeze mad respect I’m over here with a peewee 50 pound
In the video that he made with shadiversity in it's 21:40 when shoots 3 arrow at 100 pounds, he seems to be holding the 3 arrows between his 4 fingers. Have you tried it that way?
im not a skilled archer in this technique. im sure you can find others that shoot faster without looking. my goal is to do some analysis of this technique and how to best utilize slavic draw with heavy weights, my conclusion is u need thin light arrows and the bow cannot be too heavy due to limitation of arrow mass efficiency of organic shaft materials.
@@HistoricalWeapons very true! Just saying that feel/intuition has a lot to do with how the greats become great such as looking at your target instead of aiming and rotating the arrow along the bowstring to seat it as well as using loose nocks. The goal is to never let your eyes leave your opponent! Great job! I love you content!
Really cool. Great work. Bamboo is nature's "carbons". Should be able to find suitable, thinner high poundage spine shafts, at least in the UK you can. The amazing red-headed Russian lady from Murmansk speed shooting at c.1 arrow per second is taking each arrow individually from her back quiver using the Slavic dagger draw, rather than grabbing a handful. Though she is using a lighter bow, c40lb I guess, she's not even trying to handle several arrows at a time but still achieving spectacular rapid shooting.
the 1300 grain arrows were too stiff so did not shoot straight. in the second half of the video I used 250spine 500 grain carbon and it shoots much straigher with good speed
Would switching up the draw and "quiver pull" (? I don't know that a term? = the way you draw them from the quiver) make any difference? I'm thinking more along the lines of how yumi archers hold 1/mulitiple arrows while using a thumb draw and it has been documented that both yumi archers and thumb draw can be used with high poundage. As for the quiver pull Armin Hirmer has a video where he holds and pulls them from his quiver with his pinky and ringfinger, then lifts 1 arrow to the bow and draws it with primarily his thumb and a little bit his index and middle finger. I think you could combine these 2 techniques while maybe taking enough time to aim, but still be relatiively quick with the next arrow. My thumb cannot handle the draw weight yet but I could show you my fumbling attemps at the idea of the technique if you want.
@@HistoricalWeapons I see, i did not shot much last month.... but i test speedshooting a 80 lbs Daylite and is possible be fast but i agree, it dosnt need more then 70 lbs ...
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This is an analysis to figure out the pros and cons of the slavic draw + arrows held in string hand. 5 years ago I was a lot better at this technique but now I have transitioned to heavier bows, so I thought it would be a good idea to revisit this speed shooting technique with heavier bows. In the previous video 125lbs was simply too heavy to shoot rapidly so I decided to drop the draw weight to 70lbs. let's see if it made a difference
Also have you thought of bamboo 1/2in diameter or playing with different diameters. It was the ancient version of carbon arrows, hollow and strong for its size
@@dgundeadforge17 good bamboo difficult to get in north America. bad bamboo is easy to get
Jack .....your still watching your self nock .....it's slowing you down...more than you know....and jeez do you think your nocks go on hard enough I could hear the click from here.....it shouldn't take much to get the nock seated .........and stop watching yourself nock !!!!! You are a damn good archer Jack..time to take it up a notch
@Jareth I don’t do that now check my mongol genghis khan video
nice, dude .keep it going. happy to see you shoot again. :)
@Combat Archery USA you complain about my videos but watch and comment every video for the past 6 years I upload and downvote them. like I said, if you don't like my videos why are you still watching? move on man
@Combat Archery USA have you seen warbow vs gambeson video. with enough layers cloth is surprisingly effective against arrows. he likely stuffs his pillows with rags/vinyl to stop arrows
@Combat Archery USA a proper full size archery target is too heavy to bring on-site along with all that archery gear. you can shoot at dirt if you want to be honest, why you care so much about the target. this video is not about penetration test, its about shooting fast.
jack shoots faster than you bo, just suck it up and move on
@Combat Archery USA I don’t shoot at the targets there because it damages the targets too quickly people complain
@Combat Archery USA wow your so toxic
I like that this guy actually shows the target and has ok accuracy, many speed shooters I see don't show the camera so u have no idea where the arrows went
@Combat Archery USA why do you need a proper archery target? who cares. whats wrong with pillows? with enough of them it will stop any arrow. and what do you know about whats inside the pillow. it is likely stuff with rags or stuff that stops arrows
@Combat Archery USA have you seen warbow vs gambeson video. with enough layers cloth is surprisingly effective against arrows
@Combat Archery USA the target is a modified couch cushion with rugs stuffed inside. its cheaper than archery targets. i didn't think anyone care so much about the quality of target I'm shooting lol. people at the range prefer me to shoot my own targets because I damage the public targets too quickly
@Combat Archery USA He's not testing the effectiveness of armor dude. He's investigating his own archery techniques. Who cares what he's using for a target as long as it's reasonably safe?
@@nuancedhistory well said
Well done this is quite an achievement
@Combat Archery USA you complain about my videos but watch and comment every video for the past 6 years I upload and downvote them. like I said, if you don't like my videos why are you still watching? move on man
I really want to know what workout you do to be strong enough to do this!
shoot more arrows. but I found pulling 70lbs rapidly uses different muscles than pulling 140lbs once a minute.
Start with wide arm pull ups. Get to 20 slow up n down.
@@HistoricalWeapons I’ll have to invest in some more arrows then!🤣😊
@Combat Archery USA you complain about my videos but watch every video I upload and downvote them. like I said, if you don't like my videos why are you still watching for the past 6 years? move on man
Getting more awesome I see. I made my 2nd ever knife sheath by learning from making my second one watching youtube videos. You and I ate awesome video games are fun but gaining real life EXP points means we get cooler.
I've been practicing with the Slavic Release for some time too. It's just so much fun! If I may, here's some advice: you need to be able to have the arrows aligned in the correct orientation for the nock to be perfectly perpendicular with the string every time. I notice that the times you stutter and loose speed is in the moment of nocking. I've been through the same problem. The best way to fix this I could find, without having to fiddle with the arrows in your hands after each draw from the quiver (I draw 3 at a time from the quiver), and only then start the shooting process, is to use a special quiver. The quiver has a small elastic "wrap" that goes around each arrow individualy. This makes the arrows firmly secure in the quiver, so you can set then properly beforehand in the quiver, in a way so that when you draw them, they are sure to be in the right rotation so that the nock will find the string in the right orientation. This speeds up the shooting tremendously, because you always nock fast, and in time, you won't even have to look at the string to nock properly.
Another technique you can try, is to hold the arrows in the draw hand with the pointing finger over the arrows, instead of under them. It may feel awkward at first, but with little practice you will see how you can hold them much more securely and always pointing forwards, which prevents them wiggling around. Note that you to be able to hold them in this manner they've got to be 2 fletched.
It's really impressive and inspiring to see you shooting Slavic with such heavy bows. I achieved pretty nice speed already, but only with 40~50Lb bow. Gonna start to work on building up the weight!
Love your videos, keep them coming!
thanks for the response, i find by using a quiver instead of held with string hand, I can blind nock ( I have time to feel the nock). this could be explored in future videos. the reason why I cant blind nock while holding arrows at the nocks is because there are too many arrows so it is difficult to feel 1 out of the 5 arrows. its much easier when u only hold one arrow at a time, which I believe is the intention of the slavic draw
regarding "Another technique you can try, is to hold the arrows in the draw hand with the pointing finger over the arrows, instead of under them.'" I ve noticed lars and martin prefers this but when I try it I am never as accurate as conventional slavic. the issue for me is the arrows have a tendency of falling off, maybe it is the orientation of my bow arm that gives it a torque? I'm unsure but would like to work on that technique. unfortunately that variation has no historical documentation so I don't know if it would be appropriate for my channel
@@HistoricalWeapons Totally agree on the historical point. Maybe because of the necessity for the 2 fletched arrow. They noticeably take longer to stabilize in flight with only 2 fletchings, certainly taking a toll on the energy and reducing the power of the shot.
About drawing from quiver: In my opinion, it's much more historically plausible. Specially when talking about heavy bows, used in war. From my experience I can draw much heavier and accurately without reserve arrows in the draw hand. Imagine taking it to horseback shooting. Furthermore, the Slavic release already allows me to be fairly fast while shooting drawing from the quiver. Definitely not worth the compromise in power and accuracy for a little more of speed. But despite all that, it's just so much fun, feels and looks so cool to draw from the hand. =D
@Combat Archery USA ??? I don't get it. What's so wrong about his archery?
@Combat Archery USA combat archery like I said, stop watching my videos if you don't like it. not sure why you keep making response videos to rant at me. you have been ranting at me for the past 6 yrs. like come on, not even my exes bother me that long
He's slowly becoming to look like a Khan.
баярлалаа
he must be mongol
@@Dnahwjjwjejnenex im mixed east asian
Gotta have respect for anyone shooting in Crocs
Excellent display, Jack, and good arguments. I concur with your points, as accuracy and reliability are just too compromised. You were managing about ~2.5 seconds per arrow, I think, which is really impressive if this is what you consider being out of practice. Still, John Schulz with a bow of unknown weight managed a Med draw at ~1.77 seconds on average, albeit the bow was probably lighter (I forget the weight), and Ken Hicks was managing about 3 seconds per arrow with a longbow, so as you say the speed advantage seems negligible compared to the downsides.
There may be a specific moment where one archer could use it, but the vast majority would never see that happen. You could shoot one or two arrows rapidly in a panic, before retreating behind the infantry, for example... but it would be better to take a little more time aiming your last shot, so you hit a horse or a man, before you retreat. Even at range for suppression, it's just not useful to suppress enemies from a great distance, it's too exhausting to shoot quickly, and arrows aren't cheap. A mounted archer might suppress a group of men from up close, as he retreats, but then I'm not certain the unorthodox draw would be stable enough for mounted combat.
For modern day, I wouldn't consider it good for hunting, as you need to make sure your first shot hits, and maybe you get a second if you're lucky, but you'd be better to practice shooting thumb or Med quickly (as mentioned, John can shoot it quite fast). For self defence... not really. The inaccuracy is enough that you're likely to miss even at close range, particularly under stress, and at close range you are unlikely to be able to get a second or third shot, which makes the speed shooting pointless.
Thanks for sharing your research with us, Jack.
@Combat Archery USA bo Krause why don’t you find someone else to harass
@Combat Archery USA This is how you spend Christmas Eve...?
New vids coming where I shoot so much faster
modern mongol archer
i wanna see lars anderson do this
he cant
He isn't strong enough. He even says he isn't that strong.
Great accuracy for rapid fire
kinda
Very nice video, thank you! I would love to see if you could adapt Martin Spörri's arrow holding technique with your heavy monster war arrows!?
Holding these heavy arrows at the nock generates a lot of leverage. Holding the arrows in/with your palm, at the point where the (only two) fletches are, is maybe more feasible concerning the leverage problem. I assume you could manage to hold at least three heavy arrows using Martin's technique :-) .
Martins technique does not have any historical documentation which is why I’m reluctant to do for a channel focused on historical archery. It seems Lars also prefers that way. I have tried it but can’t shoot accurately because the arrow needs to be twisted. If I don’t twist the arrow they fall off the shelf. I’m in contact with Martin to figure out his technique
@@HistoricalWeapons
Thank you for your answer.
Fair enough argument, I did not think about that. On the other hand: even if we have no written or pictorial historical evidence on this technique it could still be possible that it was a common technique in specific war/battle situations for at least some of the ancient cultures since it's somehow (kind of) "natural" to invent or figure it out and does not need additional technical equipment like i.e. the Panjegan (ok, the war arrows are/were maybe still too thick/clumsy or too heavy to do it).
If you'll manage the technique with heavy arrows you'll prove that it COULD have been possible even for ancient archers with their war bows.
With thumb draw technique you "twist"/push the arrow with the curved index finger against the shelf. With the slavic "two under" technique you "only" press your straight index finger horizontally against the arrow and that pushes the arrow against the shelf - than sliding the finger along the arrows towards the nock. The simultaneously applied wrist torque (see below) from your bow hand works as a counter weight to that.
But again - maybe does not work with thick and heavy arrows.
Concerning accuracy: this may can be increased when using Martin's full torque technique on the wrist of the bow hand to get rid of the archers paradox (not Armin's "forward"/vertical kathra but Martin's full power sideways/horizontal wrist "kathra/torque"). As a very neat side effect the spine of your heavy arrows is not relevant anymore, only the correct weight. But I doubt that this can be done with the needed pressure/power on a +100 lbs war bow?!
Anyway, the historical archery study goes on, keep up the excellent work!
love the content ur putting out man!
A nice test, and reasonable conclusion. But I can't help but notice your nocking technique feels kinda clumsy. It's hard to explain but, grab the arrow with the thumb and index and just slide the string under your thumb and back the nock onto the string. it's safer and faster. Check out Armin's video on nocking, you'll know what I mean when you see it.
Keep the interesting videos going. Best wishes :D
that technique works if you dont have other arrows held in your hand, i use that when i pull each arrow one by one out of the quiver, but when u hold multiple very diffiuclt to do and clumsy
@@HistoricalWeapons I'm talking about nocking one arrow at a time. You still do it by holding on to the shaft far from the nock. Seen it in a few videos already. You seem to know what I'm talking about. Just trying to help here 😁
seeing you shoot 140lbs , first thing that comes into my mind is speed shoot it!
i need to get stronger to speed shoot that
I was curious, what's your accuracy with a 70 or 120 bow at long range? (like +70m)
Do the historical sources mention some expected standard of accuracy?
I haven’t tested that distance with this technique. This technique is designed to shoot as fast as possible, not to shoot accurately. I’m more confident hitting a target at 70 yards with med draw
@@HistoricalWeapons oh, I was asking in general! Perhaps could've worded that better.
@@sitrilko its bad. i cannot hit a target consistently at 70m with conventional draw
For ottoman archers, hiting puta target (grape shape target, in size of human torso with head) evry time at 70m, was consider as minimum to call someon good archer.
Love from India , Rajasthan 🤙🏻
genghis khans decendent
thanks mate
Какой смысл в наше время использовать сильные луки? Тезники выстрела и точности попаданий с мощными луками нет и трудно этого достигнуть. 50 фунтов более чем предостаточно.
Good job Jack
Wow, you have improved so much!
Holy shit first of all wonderful shooting I can’t imagine how your back and shoulders look together they gotta be built like a fucking God second of all you can see the power of that first bow because it shakes your whole fucking body for a sec there’s kickback third of all you went from 100 some odd pounds to 70 pounds and you were like this is a breeze mad respect I’m over here with a peewee 50 pound
thanks for watching man. gonna speed shoot some 100lb this summer but try to shoot as fast as lars
这个手法在咱们国内不是叫扒子式....我记得拉尔斯不也改进了一下这个手法？
www.nijora.de/carbonschaefte/tokala-200-strong-32-inch-1000-graininch This are the 200spine 32" 10gpi
Do they ship to Canada
Please do a video on the slavic technique
Can you suggest me link for arrows.. my Bow 68 poundage
choose 300 spine
go to ebay www.ebay.ca/itm/174230509546?hash=item2890f297ea:g:ifQAAOSwSkNfeTQx
Learn not to look at your nocking. Learning some details from you though Thanks.
Noted! yes ive been working on that
In the video that he made with shadiversity in it's 21:40 when shoots 3 arrow at 100 pounds, he seems to be holding the 3 arrows between his 4 fingers. Have you tried it that way?
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'iinaa bikhayr kayf halik anta?
@@HistoricalWeapons شكرا 😂
Nice bro
@Combat Archery USAlol
I use a 70lb sas bow..... Needed this
Your flaw is looking at the nock.
im not a skilled archer in this technique. im sure you can find others that shoot faster without looking. my goal is to do some analysis of this technique and how to best utilize slavic draw with heavy weights, my conclusion is u need thin light arrows and the bow cannot be too heavy due to limitation of arrow mass efficiency of organic shaft materials.
@@HistoricalWeapons very true! Just saying that feel/intuition has a lot to do with how the greats become great such as looking at your target instead of aiming and rotating the arrow along the bowstring to seat it as well as using loose nocks. The goal is to never let your eyes leave your opponent! Great job! I love you content!
not bad
thanks
Try willows of the similar size
Willow arrows
It’s more the spine
Really cool. Great work. Bamboo is nature's "carbons". Should be able to find suitable, thinner high poundage spine shafts, at least in the UK you can. The amazing red-headed Russian lady from Murmansk speed shooting at c.1 arrow per second is taking each arrow individually from her back quiver using the Slavic dagger draw, rather than grabbing a handful. Though she is using a lighter bow, c40lb I guess, she's not even trying to handle several arrows at a time but still achieving spectacular rapid shooting.
Link for the Murmansk speed shooting lady: th-cam.com/video/1o9RGnujlkI/w-d-xo.html
its a much lighter bow and i can shoot that fast too with low draw weight: th-cam.com/video/c3ySMVIMaPk/w-d-xo.html
FINALLY A RUSSIAN DRAW TECHNIQUE
u wish...
good analysis
says the stupid one ^
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Get attention on a straight arrowflight. Curvy arrows is low speed
the 1300 grain arrows were too stiff so did not shoot straight. in the second half of the video I used 250spine 500 grain carbon and it shoots much straigher with good speed
Would switching up the draw and "quiver pull" (? I don't know that a term? = the way you draw them from the quiver) make any difference? I'm thinking more along the lines of how yumi archers hold 1/mulitiple arrows while using a thumb draw and it has been documented that both yumi archers and thumb draw can be used with high poundage. As for the quiver pull Armin Hirmer has a video where he holds and pulls them from his quiver with his pinky and ringfinger, then lifts 1 arrow to the bow and draws it with primarily his thumb and a little bit his index and middle finger. I think you could combine these 2 techniques while maybe taking enough time to aim, but still be relatiively quick with the next arrow. My thumb cannot handle the draw weight yet but I could show you my fumbling attemps at the idea of the technique if you want.
4.22 - 5 Arrows with 70 lbs . Accept the Challenche :) Blindnocking ;)
im not competing buddy :) this is a technique analysis
im sure you can shoot faster, id rather improve my warbow draw weight with thumb draw
@@HistoricalWeapons Ok kool. What tempeture is right now in Canada? Must be Icecold now.
@@AlfaRevoluzione yes freezing cold. footages you see are from 3 months ago. keep doing what your good at
@@HistoricalWeapons I see, i did not shot much last month.... but i test speedshooting a 80 lbs Daylite and is possible be fast but i agree, it dosnt need more then 70 lbs ...