Lilac may have had a upper hand on both Combat and Skills but when it comes to speed they both had the same skills. But when Sonic went into his Super Form it was all over. I guess you can say Sonic had "dragged on" the battle. Winner, Sonic Maurice Hedgehog!
Sounds like you're analyzing this like Death Battle. Cool Sonic and Lilac are both fast and strong, but when Sonic has Super Form, and Lilac doesn't, he gets the upper hand.
@@Angel-Hedgehog Ya I do agree with you but I also don't. Now we don't know if this Sonic is from the Archie Comics where his more Faster, Stronger, and Powerful then in the Video Gamea we play. So if the Sonic that Jack used in the video was from the comic then even without the Chaos Emeralds Power Sonic would still win.
Sonic is much more experienced in combat. His attacks can do serious damage to deities like Dark Gaia, Perfect Chao, Time Eater, defeated Ultimate Emerl in 30 seconds, defeated Solaris and managed to defeat Infinite. As Sonic himself told Infinite: "I become more powerful by the second".
There’s no way that lilac would push Sonic to his super form lol. The fight would be over before it even started if actual feats were considered. Awesome animation as always though.
I'm very sure the only reason she did that was that he wanted to include Super Sonic in the fight. It's the same reason She somehow overcame Super Saiyan Goku in a past animation from this same animator. If he cared abt power scaling, this fight would have been *UP, OVER, AND **_GOOOOONE_* in one second flat.
@@elijahdixon7681lso, that fight was retarded in its own right too, and a rather clear cut case for JH’s fetish for Lilac. All “non research” fights should really just be renamed to “spite against other fandoms of the dude who would obviously win” fights. Because all they serve is to make the character who would obviously lose win and to intentionally try and piss off the fans of the character who obviously would take that matchup without any issues. Goku should’ve obliterated lilac, but of course jack’s simp like nature for his waifu didn’t allow it. That’s the only reason she won that fight, that and he probably didn’t want to receive backlash from two of The biggest scaling fandoms simultaneously, especially with Sonic fans over him losing to his budget counterpart.
*SONIC REALLY JUST SAID* *KILLED A WOMAN FEELING GREAT!* *The Chaos Emeralds is overkill don't ya think sonic LMFAO* *MF gotta use THE CHAOS EMERALDS TO OFF A Angsty Teenage Dragon Girl* 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I know that powerscaling wasn't considered here, or at least I hope. It was a nice fluid animation I'll give you that, but logically speaking, Sonic is faster, stronger, smarter, more agile and more durable, he can maipulate time and space and beats the shit out of Super-Dimensional reality warpers. Lilac on the other hand struggles with threats who can destroy small buildings, (such as Serpetine) while her intelligence may be pretty good, it isn't close to fooling a guy with an IQ of 300 on the daily. As for speed, there's no contest, Lilac may be faster than the speed of sound, yes. But Sonic is faster than time, in his base form nonetheless. Honestly, I see Lilac losing to some of Eggman's earliest inventions, don't see her getting anywhere past Silver Sonic anyway. (especially if it's Game Gear Sonic 2, as that bot was powered by an Emerald, which have actual universes inside of them) Sonic just straight up toyed with her here, it all just depended on when he wanted to end it.
Alternate ending (after the explosion): Lilac: _on the ground out cold, then gets healed by purple energy and wakes up_ "That really hurt earlier..." Sonic: "Gotta say, you held your own pretty well!" Lilac: "Thanks. You completely stomped me with that second form of yours though. If it weren't for this Phantom Zone stuff, I'd be a pile of ashes right now!"
This is a funny fight for me because sonic is just fighting a ripoff of himself. And btw this fight isn't and will never be close sonic is just UNDEFEATABLE!!
Lilac will lose no mater what even with help.Super Sonic is op,and dark and hyper Sonic are some how even more op...and now I’m starting to get too deep into the Sonic lore,SOMEONE STOP ME BEFORE I SAY ALL THE SONIC LORE!!!
My guy, Sonic wasting the Chaos Emeralds to beat her ass has to be a joke! He can literally just light speed dash. He literally can just defeat her in his basic form ;/
When it comes to speed both are equal but when it comes to close combat Lilac had the upper hand.Until Went to his super form its all over for Lilac.His speed and strength have increased and overwhelmed Lilac
Both are not even close to equal. Sonic is infinitely faster, stronger, and more experienced. Lilac at her best MIGHT be Hypersonic, she isn’t touching any version of Sonic who even in his weakest incarnations can react to lightning to a degree.
Hey my guy,I've got some wonderful ideas for fights on your channel,courtesy of somebody named chaoticprince7,all of which I would extordinarily love to see move:#8:Vicky vs rouge-#7:silver vs yoshi-#6:team sonic(sonic tails knuckles mario luigi & yoshi)vs team shadow(shadow rouge omega wario waluigi & boshi)-#5:team mario(mario luigi & yoshi)vs team troopers(jiren toppo & dyspo)#4:mario bowser & geno vs jiren-#3:mario & geo vs shadow ghost(hedgehog form)-#2:sonic & mario vs chaos & mint-#1:sonic shadow mario luigi & yoshi vs broly!also here's some that I made up:mighty the armadillo(archie)vs monkey(kung fu panda),espio the chameleon(sonic)vs viper(kung fu panda)nazo the hedgehog(nazo unleashed)vs omega shenron(dragon ball)luigi(mario)vs fluttershy(friendship is magic)!
@@TrippieVG That’s…….What I said lmao. Game/X/IDW/Post Genesis wave Archie Sonic (who are more or less interchangeable in terms of speed and power) are way beyond being way beyond overkill for freedom planet. Even OVA Sonic would one shot her, she would be incapable of beating any incarnations of Sonic actually, even SATAM Sonic as all of them blitz her. SATAM Sonic is casually a mach 5 character, Lilac is incapable of going at Mach 1 or even 600 MPH. Her only chance of victory against SATAM, AOSTH or Movie Sonic is in the impossible scenarios where any one of those particular 3 just stand there completely motionless and do nothing to defend against or avoid Lilac’s attacks, while she gets to pull off every attack she possibly can, maybe then she could win. Against the most fodder versions of sonic, lmao. And that’s only due to the fact their attack potencies are in the building level ranges, aka more or less in the same league, not like it matters cause Lilac couldn’t even hit those fodder incarnations anyways, so her capacity to hurt them is 99.9999999% meaningless. Even OVA Sonic would be invincible to her as he’s city level, meanwhile Lilac at maximum wank isn’t even City Block Level. People like Shadow, Silver, or Blaze are types she stands no chance against, period, mainly due to them being modern era exclusive characters and thus there’s no versions of them she could even so much as harm, they’re literally above her character conceptually in all aspects (what I mean by that is basically no matter which versions of the characters you choose, you can composite one and limit the other to one iteration, aka the most unfair disadvantage you can give any character in a vs debate, and the other will still get clapped 1000000000000/100 times, regardless of circumstances). The weakest version of shadow you can pull out for example, is X Shadow and he’s more or less on par with his Adventure Era self. Even Jedi and Sith from Star Wars or Part I Naruto Characters would murder Lilac. Let alone anything from the Sonic franchise, especially in the OVA, Game, IDW, X, Or Post Genesis Archie Continuities. *don’t even get me started on the overpowered deity that is Pre Super Genesis Wave Archie Sonic, who in terms of power, is someone we’d require Xeno Goku type shit for to deal with in any capacity*
imagine a hedgehog who have a high reflex and super speed and some massive deadly attack .and some transformation that can beat the overlords of fiction vs a girl that is powerful have good reflex and a not a fast runner but still good at combat
when will you use fox mccloud in your battles and if you do it, would you make one where fox wins, it could be something like fox vs tails or fox vs rachet, it would be incredible if you did it and it would make me very happy
Lilac may have had a upper hand on both Combat and Skills but when it comes to speed they both had the same skills. But when Sonic went into his Super Form it was all over. I guess you can say Sonic had "dragged on" the battle. Winner, Sonic Maurice Hedgehog!
I fully agree with you
Nice and I agree to
Sounds like you're analyzing this like Death Battle. Cool
Sonic and Lilac are both fast and strong, but when Sonic has Super Form, and Lilac doesn't, he gets the upper hand.
I do agree with what you said but if sonic didn't had the emeralds he would had lost the battle.
@@Angel-Hedgehog Ya I do agree with you but I also don't. Now we don't know if this Sonic is from the Archie Comics where his more Faster, Stronger, and Powerful then in the Video Gamea we play. So if the Sonic that Jack used in the video was from the comic then even without the Chaos Emeralds Power Sonic would still win.
Sonic is much more experienced in combat. His attacks can do serious damage to deities like Dark Gaia, Perfect Chao, Time Eater, defeated Ultimate Emerl in 30 seconds, defeated Solaris and managed to defeat Infinite. As Sonic himself told Infinite: "I become more powerful by the second".
Bro it's just an animation
@@sebastianserafinski9497 an animation that is based on characters fighting each other of course people are gonna drop stuff like this
Sonic the Dragon Slayer Confirmed.
I mean, he fought and defeated at LEAST two Dragons in Black Knight so he has experience.
He killed like 2 much bigger dragons in sonic and the black knight.
My man literally murdered her and said “I Iove to stay in chat” 😂😂😂😂
You said it xDDDD
Yea. Chat to her deadass ghost.
Sonic doesn’t even need his Super Form to defeat Lillac
SATAM Sonic, the weakest and slowest Sonic in existence would murder her. Let alone any other incarnations of himself.
Choreography is mad great lad!!!
Always a treat!
Thanks Dude! I appreciate it! X3
@@JH-Production can I have the sheet please
Sees end of video, me: holy shut you fuckin killed her dude
OH GOD THATS DARK! 2:36
It’s like the same thing with Crash Bandicoot’s Death where his shoes are the only thing that survived.
Yup :b
Lilac ain't coming back for FP2 that's for sure
@@aquatheechidna5137 Nah, she's 100% getting revived.
Sonic vs lilac
Sonic: gets beated
Me: geez is she gonna win i hope yes
Sonic:*turns into super sonic*
Me: Uh carol we need to plan a funeral
Sonic : ggggrrrraaaaa
Süper sonic : game over
Nice battle
That moment when sonic pulling her hair was unexpected, but c'mon sonic, its was not necessary that over kill
Poor Lilac my dragon girl
Lilac is a copy of sonic
@@martaantunes7629 and sonic is a copy of Mario just cause jts a copy doesn't mean it can't be good
@@name2123 Sonic didn't copy mario
@@sonicwithglasses131 ok did i ask
@@name2123 idc if you asked or not, get the information right
Sonic is the fastest thing alive and the winner can’t wait for more battles
Flash, Dash, Rainbow Dash: are We a joke to u
(I not being rude)
Don't mess with the Blue blur
@@magicalgirlfan1 in his world-
he really is fastest
@@magicalgirlfan1 Im sorry, but Rainbow Dash? Really? Like Flash I understand but fucking Rainbow Dash?
@@berdnst yah that got me to even road runner is faster than that
i swear dude jason made sonic sound so damn cool.
miss the guy voicing the blue rat.
_"I told you, I'm not a RAT!...I'm a HEDGEHOG!"_
Amazing animation dude, also that ending though.
I guess you can say Sonic & Black Knight is canon since Sonic slayed another dragon
1:26 Oh my gosh this bit was sick.
yeah
This is the best animation ever seen!!! Great job!!!!
Nice Battle, Good Job Jack but that Over kill from 1:45 to 2:43 was not necessary that was brutal, Poor Lilac my Dragon Girl
No dip Sherlock you killed her and you got some nerves to pull her hair like that to...!!!!
I can tell some parts of this fight was inspired by Alvin-Earthworm's own fight with Sonic vs Turbo Mecha Sonic in the underground caves, from SMBZ.
Way Past Cool, when Sonic Defeats Lilac for the Battle.
Thanks ^^
Ouch, talk about leaving a mark. Nice. .w.
Thanks Zack ^^
@@JH-Production ^^
There’s no way that lilac would push Sonic to his super form lol. The fight would be over before it even started if actual feats were considered. Awesome animation as always though.
I'm very sure the only reason she did that was that he wanted to include Super Sonic in the fight. It's the same reason She somehow overcame Super Saiyan Goku in a past animation from this same animator. If he cared abt power scaling, this fight would have been *UP, OVER, AND **_GOOOOONE_* in one second flat.
@@elijahdixon7681 yeah, you’re right.
@@elijahdixon7681 Lilac would get murdered by Clone Commandos from Star Wars, let alone Goku, Vegeta, Sonic and Shadow.
@@elijahdixon7681lso, that fight was retarded in its own right too, and a rather clear cut case for JH’s fetish for Lilac. All “non research” fights should really just be renamed to “spite against other fandoms of the dude who would obviously win” fights. Because all they serve is to make the character who would obviously lose win and to intentionally try and piss off the fans of the character who obviously would take that matchup without any issues. Goku should’ve obliterated lilac, but of course jack’s simp like nature for his waifu didn’t allow it. That’s the only reason she won that fight, that and he probably didn’t want to receive backlash from two of
The biggest scaling fandoms simultaneously, especially with Sonic fans over him losing to his budget counterpart.
1:47 It was at this moment she knew... She ****ed up.
*SONIC REALLY JUST SAID*
*KILLED A WOMAN FEELING GREAT!*
*The Chaos Emeralds is overkill don't ya think sonic LMFAO*
*MF gotta use THE CHAOS EMERALDS TO OFF A Angsty Teenage Dragon Girl* 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
2:25 now that’s a death battle
I know that powerscaling wasn't considered here, or at least I hope.
It was a nice fluid animation I'll give you that, but logically speaking, Sonic is faster, stronger, smarter, more agile and more durable, he can maipulate time and space and beats the shit out of Super-Dimensional reality warpers.
Lilac on the other hand struggles with threats who can destroy small buildings, (such as Serpetine) while her intelligence may be pretty good, it isn't close to fooling a guy with an IQ of 300 on the daily.
As for speed, there's no contest, Lilac may be faster than the speed of sound, yes. But Sonic is faster than time, in his base form nonetheless.
Honestly, I see Lilac losing to some of Eggman's earliest inventions, don't see her getting anywhere past Silver Sonic anyway. (especially if it's Game Gear Sonic 2, as that bot was powered by an Emerald, which have actual universes inside of them)
Sonic just straight up toyed with her here, it all just depended on when he wanted to end it.
Sonic doesn't fool Eggman, he powers through with his speed. While he is smart, I'm honestly not sure who is smarter between them.
@Professor Zoom
If you want the scans, i'll send you them via Discord.
Yeah,he honestly didn't need super.
I can give you many more feats that proves Sonic would absolutely rape Lilac In base.
She wouldn’t get past Silver Sonic or even the most basic of badniks besides egg pawns.
Also, no, Lilac isn’t even capable of reaching, let alone *breaking* the sound barrier. Her best speed feats are still Subsonic.
making Sonic go super to defeat Lilac is DIRTY!
Wow Sonic! You just murdered her!
Sonic x lilac
Tails x milla
Knuckles x Carol
Shadow x neera li
Alternate ending (after the explosion):
Lilac: _on the ground out cold, then gets healed by purple energy and wakes up_ "That really hurt earlier..."
Sonic: "Gotta say, you held your own pretty well!"
Lilac: "Thanks. You completely stomped me with that second form of yours though. If it weren't for this Phantom Zone stuff, I'd be a pile of ashes right now!"
That fight was amazing
Noice animation!
Thanks man ^^
@@JH-Production ye
This is a funny fight for me because sonic is just fighting a ripoff of himself. And btw this fight isn't and will never be close sonic is just UNDEFEATABLE!!
Jeez sonic u didn't have to kill her
This is awesome
Lilac will lose no mater what even with help.Super Sonic is op,and dark and hyper Sonic are some how even more op...and now I’m starting to get too deep into the Sonic lore,SOMEONE STOP ME BEFORE I SAY ALL THE SONIC LORE!!!
0:44
1:33
Cool video Jack
It was Over The Second He turned into Super Sonic, there was nothing Lilac can do there.
i love sonic and sash lilac❤❤👍
👍
thank you so very much for creating my fight!but now,do u think that u could do tails vs speedy battlekukku,please?
As soon as sonic turned super it was over
Sonic in base forms solos in about 0.3 seconds but this is still amazing!
I guess Lilac was too slow.
Love yuo lilac ❤
Did they just hug when they started fighting LMAO
Dawg w animation but irl battle sonic would slap in like 5 seconds
My guy, Sonic wasting the Chaos Emeralds to beat her ass has to be a joke! He can literally just light speed dash. He literally can just defeat her in his basic form ;/
Wow First Mario and now Sonic
Great animation
I know the reference here, Mike Bettencourt’s version of sonic vs lilac :D
Lilac doesn't really have a chance against Sonic....
SONIC
VS
SONIC AND SHANTAE'S LOVE CHILD
Woah... she didn't need that 0_0
SONIC I DONT THINK SUPER WAS NEEDED, THAT WAS MURDER. 😱 YOU ARE GOING TO A SUPERMAX PRISON SONIC, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!
Cool animation lol
Don't mess with the Blue blur
Cool
Amazing work bro
Btw on 2:25 it's not a K.O it's a Fatality
Here it's for you Sonic 🏆
I love that in these fights they literally murder eachother lol
Finnaly the right modern sonic spirit!
Aw man I wish lilac was able turn super but good video pal.
bro it woud be interesting but no thats never gonna happen
When it comes to speed both are equal but when it comes to close combat Lilac had the upper hand.Until Went to his super form its all over for Lilac.His speed and strength have increased and overwhelmed Lilac
There speed is not equal, sonic much faster
Both are not even close to equal. Sonic is infinitely faster, stronger, and more experienced. Lilac at her best MIGHT be Hypersonic, she isn’t touching any version of Sonic who even in his weakest incarnations can react to lightning to a degree.
HOLY SH*T LILAC IS DED
Like that super sonic sonic mania theme
Did you have to make sonic do lilac like that 2:24
Well Lilac’s dead.
Better get the Dragon Balls..
*gets dragon radar*
Like she ever had a chance
Me: Way go Sonic
Me: That was Awesome!
This is a reference to quicksilver vs flash.
Hey my guy,I've got some wonderful ideas for fights on your channel,courtesy of somebody named chaoticprince7,all of which I would extordinarily love to see move:#8:Vicky vs rouge-#7:silver vs yoshi-#6:team sonic(sonic tails knuckles mario luigi & yoshi)vs team shadow(shadow rouge omega wario waluigi & boshi)-#5:team mario(mario luigi & yoshi)vs team troopers(jiren toppo & dyspo)#4:mario bowser & geno vs jiren-#3:mario & geo vs shadow ghost(hedgehog form)-#2:sonic & mario vs chaos & mint-#1:sonic shadow mario luigi & yoshi vs broly!also here's some that I made up:mighty the armadillo(archie)vs monkey(kung fu panda),espio the chameleon(sonic)vs viper(kung fu panda)nazo the hedgehog(nazo unleashed)vs omega shenron(dragon ball)luigi(mario)vs fluttershy(friendship is magic)!
Goddamn Sonic! OD Much!? You did NOT have to go that hard! You're already way faster than her!
the part when sonic grab lilac hair is epic
Best i can say is it's not to watch the blue blur speedrun it
nice
Why does it have to be super form? Can't Sonic just use light speed dash instead? His base form is clearly just enough to defeat Lilac anyway.
You mean a lot more than a lot more than enough to murder Lilac.
@@Brendan-kx8iy eh not really. Even in Base, Sonic would still win. Super was *OVERKILL*
@@TrippieVG That’s…….What I said lmao. Game/X/IDW/Post Genesis wave Archie Sonic (who are more or less interchangeable in terms of speed and power) are way beyond being way beyond overkill for freedom planet. Even OVA Sonic would one shot her, she would be incapable of beating any incarnations of Sonic actually, even SATAM Sonic as all of them blitz her. SATAM Sonic is casually a mach 5 character, Lilac is incapable of going at Mach 1 or even 600 MPH. Her only chance of victory against SATAM, AOSTH or Movie Sonic is in the impossible scenarios where any one of those particular 3 just stand there completely motionless and do nothing to defend against or avoid Lilac’s attacks, while she gets to pull off every attack she possibly can, maybe then she could win. Against the most fodder versions of sonic, lmao. And that’s only due to the fact their attack potencies are in the building level ranges, aka more or less in the same league, not like it matters cause Lilac couldn’t even hit those fodder incarnations anyways, so her capacity to hurt them is 99.9999999% meaningless. Even OVA Sonic would be invincible to her as he’s city level, meanwhile Lilac at maximum wank isn’t even City Block Level.
People like Shadow, Silver, or Blaze are types she stands no chance against, period, mainly due to them being modern era exclusive characters and thus there’s no versions of them she could even so much as harm, they’re literally above her character conceptually in all aspects (what I mean by that is basically no matter which versions of the characters you choose, you can composite one and limit the other to one iteration, aka the most unfair disadvantage you can give any character in a vs debate, and the other will still get clapped 1000000000000/100 times, regardless of circumstances). The weakest version of shadow you can pull out for example, is X Shadow and he’s more or less on par with his Adventure Era self. Even Jedi and Sith from Star Wars or Part I Naruto Characters would murder Lilac. Let alone anything from the Sonic franchise, especially in the OVA, Game, IDW, X, Or Post Genesis Archie Continuities.
*don’t even get me started on the overpowered deity that is Pre Super Genesis Wave Archie Sonic, who in terms of power, is someone we’d require Xeno Goku type shit for to deal with in any capacity*
@@Brendan-kx8iy Christ the fact you typed this so fast is insane😳
@@TrippieVG I do type fast lol. And let’s be real, even General Grievous from Star Wars would solo Avalice.
1:27 all girls say, OW
Sonic overdone it. O_O
Yup :b
It was doooopppe
Please make a tutorial on how to use pivot animator?
An, did Sonic just killed his girlfriend?!
Liliac is not amy (or other female sonic character) XD
@@KyonSOSBrigad3 r/wooosh
Yo can I have Sonics sheet please I’ve tried to find the spin kick
Last time he was called a rat he sealed somebody inside a lamp
I think Sonic may of overdone it just a bit.
Sonic:aight she’s slow ima go ez
Dang it i wished Lilac would win *sigh* looks like my dreams are impossible to acheve still it was a great anim
THAT WILL NEVER HAPPENEN NO MATTER HOW MANY FIGHTS SONIC WILL ALWAYS WIN
@@anasilvester2260 shut up
Kinda makes sense because lilac is like a copy of sonic, she’s fast, there’s high speed sections, there’s springs, etc.
@@cartoonpeashooter4703 i see she did started her life as an OC afterall
You honestly think Lilac stands a chance whatsoever?
Oh o..ok im fine
imagine a hedgehog who have a high reflex and super speed and some massive deadly attack .and some transformation that can beat the overlords of fiction vs a girl that is powerful have good reflex and a not a fast runner but still good at combat
2:25 R.I.P Sash Lilac
Dude that was f*cked up ×10
Sonic and Ness vs Lilac and Sans would be neat
What a Battle
Puedes hacer fox vs falco vs wolf en sprite animation
OMG SUPER SONIC🤩
Shadow : ah shit here we go again
when will you use fox mccloud in your battles and if you do it, would you make one where fox wins, it could be something like fox vs tails or fox vs rachet, it would be incredible if you did it and it would make me very happy
Star Fox is weak a f. Even in comparison to other sci-fi and sci-can (science fantasy).
how did you get the sonic sprites?
Buena animación :D
Te llevas mi like 👍
Rip Lilac xdd
Nice animation Lilac needs a better matchup though
There aren’t many you can put her up against.
@@Brendan-kx8iy Shantae but that’s about it.
I think Sonic got angry that Lilac was literally copying her power.
Lmao, I doubt he needed the chaos emeralds for this fight but oh well.