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Anya: You're just proposing because we're going to die
Xander: noooo
*later, after they don't die*
Xander: I'm not sure we're ready to get married, but in my defense, I did think we were going to die.
The Scooby gang can be clueless sometimes. At this point, Buffy fels like Spike was the only one she could confide in.
It happens so often it’s ridiculous. Just being completely dense.
Angel was in a hell dimension and didn't come back all "woohoo!"
I think Buffy's friends were so determined to get her back, that they just convinced themselves that she had been in a hell dimension. If you think about it, it was a selfish act.
More like selfless since they risked their lives. If they genuinely believed she could be in a hell dimension, then that’s all that matters.
@user-sp4qd6od8m That's an 'if.' My point is that they could just as easily told themselves that, and that they were willing to do anything to have her with them.
Also, why didn't it even occur to them that she could also have gone to Heaven? If they would have thought rationally, that should have occurred to them as a possibility. And Willow is normally a rational thinker.
@@ronfehr7899 the “if” part is irrelevant because it’s all about intentions. The fact that it was mystical and that it was a portal that led them to believe it was another hell dimension.
@user-sp4qd6od8m Actually I was not disagreeing with you, although I don't know if you were even thinking that.
My question is that why didn't they even consider Heaven a possibility, considering the selfless act that Buffy made.
@@ronfehr7899 because they weren’t even sure if there was a heaven. They aren’t exactly religious. All they know are dimensions, including hell. And I was thinking that. It’s not my first debate defending scoobies from fans who like to shit on them.
“For some reason Sunnydale property values have never been competitive”
Hehehe
This episode has a subtle jab at the healthcare system, lol
Subtle?
Here we can observe the honeymoon phase of Buffy and Spike relationship. When they are cute.
"You're lucky to be alive you rank, arrogant, amateur! "
Remember what kinda things Giles got up to when he was young? Yeah. He knows what he's talking about.
Whats crazy is that Anya had a point I mean angel gets paid for doing the same job as buffy and she live in Sunnydale she would never go broke
"start charging money!" This is exactly what Angel Investigations does. Their reaction is a dig at Angel.
The reason why it works with Angel is because he chooses to do what he does. It’s a literal company/business. With Buffy, it’s just a destiny. Leading a double life like Spider-Man does. Hence the comparison to him.
@@Girl4MusicDisagree. With Angel, it's about redemption. He'd be doing it for no pay. He takes pay for Cordy and his other employees.
@@volourn9764 It’s not about redemption. It’s about absolution. The show can’t work as a redemption story if the one seeking it isn’t even the same entity as the one that did the damage. The only reason it works is because it’s chosen. Angel chooses to take responsibility for the evil actions of Angelus. He does what he does because he chooses to.
Buffy: "So what do you know about Finances?"
Kass: "He lives in a crypt."
Me: Yeah... that saves money. He also survived for... decades without a "day job" and had smokes... a car... alcohol... I see potential advice...
He's...also evil. He probably just stole all of that stuff. xD
@@othergrimm6592 Definitely stole everything he has. Other than what he scrounged up at the dump. Though this does give me terrible flash backs to the old IMDB Buffy forums. There was a guy on there that made us all ashamed to be Spike fans. He was so into "Spike is perfect" He was also really into money and claimed to be living large on investments alone (though I'm 100% sure he was actually a student, and not college) and he had these ideas (which to him meant 100% fact) that Spike was super rich, from family money and a genius investor.
19:20 It was on the actor's request. He had noticed that he spent way more time in the USA working on Buffy than with his family in England and wasn't really happy about that.
Maybe Willow and Tara could get jobs and pay rent or for groceries or something
they invoiced buffy at market rate for all the time they spent "babysitting" dawn, and as a result their rent is paid up for the next decade.
Tbh , Anya was kinda right… there’s should’ve been a Slayer Fund by the Watchers, is not like they can’t afford it , it’s just one girl … even if there is 2 … a fund so the slayer’s job can be easier, she can be more efficient at her job.
I legit wondered why the hell the Watchers' Council could employ, like, ~100 potential Watchers, librarians, secretaries, assistants, pilots, "off-the-books guys" to do wet work, and who knows who else but no one EVER bothered to put a bank account together for a Slayer to cover the basics. Give the dang girl a debit card and an allowance!
Other slayers were pretty much taken in and raised and supported by their Watchers. Buffy was the only one that was left in the care of her family. But it is still strange that in that case they don't pay her the same way they do the watchers. To me, it's kinda strange that they make a big deal about how generous Giles is to give her money. It's money he got for being her watcher for her saving the world, while she got jack.
maybe that's why they try to kill the Slayer when she turns 18
There probably was but didn't Buffy quit at some point? Or was Giles still recieving a salary?
Also, there is a whole drinking game revolving around Giles getting knocked unconscious.
One of my favorite lines from this episode has always been "Action is his reward." But nowadays, many people miss the reference. I suppose, even back then, it may have been lost on many.
Not me. I remember watching Spiderman when I was younger.
I love that line too. Spiderman
Spiderman
19:00 Nope. BtVS moved to a new network - UPN and the networks would not allow the central characters (Buffy and Angel) to do crossovers.
19:15 Anthony Head wanted to spend more time with his family in England.
2001: Buffy and Angel are going to meet up even though their programs are now on different networks?! This is gonna be awesome!
The following week: ... Disappointed ...
Buffy’s ‘money issues’ has always bugged me. Willow and Tara obviously have some sort of income as college students either financial aid, part time gigs, or possibly help from parents or a college fund in willows case but they aren’t contributing to the household they are apparently living in rent free? What was the plan if Buffy didn’t come back? Sell the house or let it go into default? It just gives me such ick
“The magics I used are very powerful. I’m very powerful and maybe it’s not such a good idea for you to piss me off.”
Megalomania does not look good on Willow. But god do I fucking love it!
Were Willow and Tara not contributing money while they lived in Buffy's house?
Hey... they kept Dawn alive. lol
I like to think they were, but you can still end up in financial trouble while pitching in whatever financial aid you have left.
Nope. They are horrible jobless freeloaders.
I don't think either Tara or Willow have a job...
@@somerotter They don't really address it. Buffy's alive again and gets saddled with all the responsibility immediately. I don't know how they kept stuff going while she was dead. Magic up some money, Willow!😀
I think Anya was hard done by in this episode. Angel charges to help the helpless and nobody questions it.
Buffy isn't Angel,her work is a calling. I think it was wrong Angel charging honestly, he was trying to atone he shouldve just been helping people because they needed it lol Anya was also wrong about Spiderman
That’s kind of the joke.
Seriously.
Well, pulled from Heaven (or close enough for Buffy, anyway) and thrust into adulthood. Attaining adulthood was the underlying metaphor Seasons 1-5, but now it has slapped her across the face with financial responsibilities that she did not take on, and yet still must carry. No spoiler, but there is an episode coming up that all of us who watch reactors are looking forward to. You've already alluded to this being a "hard season", but it has its comic moments as well. Looking forward to your future reactions! Thank you.
This episode proves why we need socialized medicine.☝
as long as you don't use canada as an example
@@nostrum6410 Actually I have a Canadian friend whose dad had cancer, and she says he would have died if they were in the 🇺🇸 because they wouldn't have bene able to afford the hospital bills.
@@Kap00rwith2os "medical vacations" to get healthcare care in Mexico and Cuba are also a thing
When I heard the scoobies say she had been in Hell, I just kind of accepted it without thinking about it.
Angel was broken for months after his stint in a hell dimension, why wouldn't Buffy be?
That said I agree it was a bit too obvious. I woulda had the reveal to Spike be a bit later, and would've played up the 'thanks for getting me out of there' a bit more.
Because they couldn’t afford to have her a mute for more than 2 episodes.
Buffy had to get on and get going
She didn't say it was too obvious.
Yea i didnt understand why people thought buffy went to hell... Shes the good one .. why would she ?
I think it's a fair assumption considering that she jumped into a portal that was opened so Glory could access her personal Hell. It also opened every other dimension, but that's were the uncertainty creeps in.
because so was Angel, he went to a hell dimension after he reverted back from being evil. It isn't a commentary on how your earthly conduct leads to your final rest based on how you lived life. Buffy would certainly have gone to heaven if there was one
Flooded was interesting episode, in that we now see how Buffy has to cope with being an adult and all that pressure that comes with paying bills etc. A bit of a ropey plot, with the irritating ( at this point ) Trio now introduced, and as if Buffy didn't have enough to cope with she now has these goons messing with her. The standout and very telling scene of course is the conversation with Willow and Giles which takes a very dark turn. Another thing which is strange is that Willow and Tara just living there rent free, surely whatever income they could contribute. A trivial point I know its just strange that everyone is just piling in there.
Nice weekend ❤❤❤ buffy 4ever ❤❤❤❤
I know there are plenty of fans who love it but this isn't my favorite season of "Spike the Vampire and his Lackluster Cohorts." It's got some shining moments but I think it just gets a bit too dark overall and I miss some of the fun of the fifth season... especially Glory.
we’re so close to 6x06 i cant wait
What’s so special about 6x06? You mean 6x07.
I've been watching a number of reactors. I'd say about 2/3 to 3/4 figure out where Buffy really was. A few of those are "oh, I was wrong" when Buffy tells her friends that she was in hell. Me, on first view (back when it was actually running on TV) I didn't get it. But then, I can be more than a little oblivious.
Why does nobody ever call out WIllow and Tara. They mooched off of Buffy and her estate. Why the heck couldn't they get a job. You can go to college and still work. People do it everyday.
actually that is all people ever do, but how do we know they didn't contribute and we never saw it on screen? Maybe they did and it wasn't enough.
@@Nexusofgeekbecause if they did they would have made sure to show it.
@@Girl4Music not necessarily, there is a lot of drama already in the plot. This detail isn't really vital and they could have taken care of it off screen. But my point was mostly that Richman asks why nobody ever calls out Willow and Tara for this, when literally it has been mentioned online hundreds of times in these reaction video comments.
@@Nexusofgeek That’s true.
Sometimes that’s all I ever see when watching reactions and watch parties for these couple of episodes involving Buffy’s struggle with money.
thank you for all the reactions that you do❤❤❤❤❤ just I just wanted you to know that in England Anthony Stewart Head the actor who plays Giles did the miniseries shot in England but I cannot recall the title of the show. I have never seen it but would love you to react to it if you can find it it might have been called Ripper bout his dark past. this is also off topic but I would love it if the show chooses to have Angel end up with someone other than Buffy Summers. In my opinion I do not think that they should be together. I wish you big hugs and respect. Brant Heavner ❤❤❤❤
that show was never made, they discussed it but they never pulled the trigger, unfortunately.
Lmfao put up with what shit? Xander’s a good dude🤣🤣🤣
The "I'm not sure I still wanna marry you after proposing when we were about to die, so I'm going to keep that to myself and not tell anyone about it"
Did Giles used to get knocked unconscious? Yeah Buffy knocked him out lol
Why willow and tara don’t contribute to the house? They living there too
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I love Anya! She is great!
Pulled from heaven and now has to deal with the mediocre and slayer stuff again. Can't say I don't understand some of Buffy's depression issues. AlthougH, I don't know what its like to be pulled out of heaven.
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Posting my BUFFY REWATCH recap for ‘Flooded’. May contain spoilers.
Moving on from the whole event of Buffy’s resurrection, ‘Flooded’ has our hero becoming aware of and having to deal with the overwhelming problems that have occurred in the Summers household since her death. Namely money problems. Turns out that she’s almost broke and down in the basement the plumbing system is all out of whack and as soon as she gets down there to sort it with her own two hands - the pipes break and water bursts out everywhere, thoroughly flooding the basement. I interpret this as a metaphor for not knowing her own strength, similar to when she was driving a car with the parking break on in ‘Band Candy’. And in not knowing her own strength - inevitably breaks something she was trying to fix. It is an effective metaphor for the episode and season - there’s just some problems a Slayer can’t resolve. The every day, mundane, adult problems of living life… unless they force themselves to confront them.
While all that’s going on with Buffy, Giles returns and sees his recently resurrected Slayer with his own two eyes. I don’t think he quite believed it until then. Until he was able to directly see her for himself. And with all that Buffy tells him (as well as all that she doesn’t, of which he picks up on most), he is seriously worried. This concern for her culminates in the kitchen where he finds Willow and asks her to explain what happened when she performed the spell that resurrected Buffy. The scene we get between them is the most memorable part of the whole episode and, as far as I’m concerned, one of the most memorable scenes in the whole show. We have never really seen Willow and Giles argue thus far. I mean… there’s been times when Giles has warned Willow about using magic and has explained that were she to, to do so responsibly and take it very seriously. But Willow has never been brave or bold enough to argue back at Giles. Not until now. Not until this conversation.
Willow is so proud of herself for what she has achieved in successfully bringing Buffy back to life that her pride makes her arrogant and entitled. Not only does she believe that she’s in the right for what she’s done… but she is absolutely adamant that she should be praised for it too. The fact Giles isn’t impressed by her actions throws her for a loop. Because she thought he would be. Hence her excitement in him asking her about performing the spell. She feels no shame whatsoever and has no hesitancy in explaining just how dark and dangerous it was to perform. As if she completely forgot that Giles is well… Giles. The oldest Scooby member. The retired librarian she once considered her mentor and her his protégée. The man she used to have a crush on. And the teacher who always reminded her to be careful and responsible in dealing with the mystical and supernatural forces.
Willow is so consumed and in over-her-head with her magical power that she is completely oblivious to how other people feel about her constant use of it. She proceeds to defend herself from Giles and threatens him. In her mind, he no longer has the power to tell her what to do or how to think. With her growing power, her belief is that the student has surpassed the teacher… so the teacher is no longer relevant or needed. Which is in stark contrast to the way Buffy regards Giles going forward in the season. He is so relevant and needed to her because she can’t face up to life’s trials and tribulations. So long as he is around to be the adult, she doesn’t have to be. This means she can wallow in her deepening depression at being forcibly pulled out of heaven by Willow and ignore everything else going on in her unwanted experience.
The bleak and dark themes of depression and addiction are starting to become known to us as the audience. In order to tolerate watching Season 6, you have to be willing to acknowledge the most honest and real thing of all about living the human experience. It’s not a TV show. So it will not always look or feel good from an observer’s perspective on it. I know all the complaints fans have with Season 6. Most of all the complaint that it doesn’t look or feel like ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’. But I want to reiterate the metaphor of ‘flooding the basement’. It’s not meant to look or feel like Buffy. That’s the point. You’re meant to be overwhelmed by the bleakness and the darkness episode to episode. I understand that it’s difficult to watch. But if you can’t face the difficulty in merely only watching Season 6 happen… how will you ever be able to deal with the difficulty of your own? This season forces you to learn lessons. And whereas you might have the belief that TV art/entertainment shouldn’t do that because you’re supposed to be entertained by it, I am very grateful that I can learn from it as hard as it is to watch it. I for one appreciate Season 6 so much for being honest and real and raw to the point where Buffy does not look or feel like Buffy. Again, that’s the artistic point!
It's always crazy watching scenes like this, or tbf most of season 6 lol, then think of them in season 1. The direction of Willow being the most surprising,but then not surprising after many rewatches. There was the argument they had in Pangs about the Native Americans, and when she yelled at him in Reptile boy, but they seemed tame to this 😬
@@paulinerobertson6836 If you watch the show backwards you get a sense of how early all this attitude and behaviour started for Willow. It is quite shocking to be honest.
@@Girl4Music yes very true, trying to pinpoint all the way back to when it began is shockingly early.
Hahah I hate Giles so... I was very happy with that Willow line... I would kinda love for her to do something magical in that moment but its good either way hahaha
You hate Giles? o_O
@@jankaveron hahah maybe hate is a too strong of a word... he's my second least favourite character. And I can't tell why... cause spoilers ahahah cause it took me 3 rewatches of the series as whole to come to this conclusion ahah
Willow is certainly right about him later on when they revisit this conversation.
Something I love about this show is how the characters are very real in how they make mistakes, and how sometimes you can disagree with some and agree with others, because they all have motives for what they believe.
@@manugsantos9 yep. That’s why I appreciate Xander and Riley when the rest of the fandom just hates them.