SO MUCH SPEC... for LESS THAN $200!!! NiPoGi AK1 Pro Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- The NiPoGi AK1 Pro is a mini PC offering 4K video output, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, Windows 11 Pro AND a removeable 2.5" SATA expansion module for SSDs or hard drives. VESA mounted behind a TV or monitor and you have a great little media PC / meeting room PC / lightweight work PC / education computer for school or college.
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Excelled video with clear, concise overview with all the important points. Just ordered the N95 Alder Lake model (512- 16 GB) for 200 Euros (Including delivery). Just wondering if you can boot from the SSD storage drive? I was thinking to clone the drive it comes with to a 2 TB SSD and have the option to boot from either drive by having a dual boot option or change to boot order in the BIOS. Just don't know if the drive will boot from the SSD module? I guess it is best to keep the M.2 drive as the mai OS drive and just use the SSD storage as just storage?
Thank you 😊 I never tested that so I can’t be certain, but I see no reason why not. The SSD module is basically a USB drive, so it should be able to serve as a boot device.
@@ConstantGeekery Just as a curious update with a couple of points. I tried to boot from the sata ssd drive but no matter how I tried with various options and operating systems, it seems this storage bay (type c connection) is just for that, Storage. So I just put in a 2 TB ssd which is great and read write speeds of around 450--500 excellent to have for moving around stuff fasr.
The ease of swapping out a 2.5 inch ssd with this modular approach is very nice. However , here is an interesting thing; Regarding the NVE 2280 drive, which it comes with, and speeds of also just 500 I cloned this drive and swapped this 500 GB NVE with another NVE 550 GB drive and when I done a speed test it was 1400-1500! Flying along.
So while you don’t get the full speed of a Gen 3 NVE it seems the NVE it comes with is just SATA speeds but using another Gen 3 NVE 2280 you can get that nice 3 times bump up in performance.
Considering that, plus the fact that it was able to handle Video editing no problem too (not the fastest to render/produce final video but decent enough) I would recommend this as a great bargain well worth it for 200 Euros . Playing 4k was also great.
@@dublintvcontent2023 thank you for sharing all this information - very useful to know!
Bought this for my TV so I can cancel my 100 dollar a month cable bill and its exactly perfect for that. Runs everything flawlessly and allows me to stream and torrent everything 😊
Thanks for this comment. That’s what I’m buying it for… but all reviews I’ve seen so far focus on gaming. I just need to know if it will steam and playback video no issue.
hi, can you please confirm it will run 4k movies?
@@krupciosorry I can’t confirm that it will do that because I don’t have a 4K display. I do have TY Premium so I can try and set it to 4K but I don’t know if it will stream 4K to a 1080p display if it knows it’s plugged into a 1080p display. I have streamed 2 videos at the same time at 1080p side by side and it did it no problem. It’s quite a snappy system to use. I have no complaints at this price point. Does way better then my old high end PC (like almost 10 year old High end Pc)
@@M9_Prime ok thanks for quick answer anyway. 👍
Installed behind my screen and works perfectly. No noise whatsoever - never heard the fan. Running the 8gb model, very cheap but for a non gamer perfect.
My main machine is a 14" Macbook Pro M1 Pro (2021) but sometimes I need to go back to x86 windows just to run very specific programs. This thing seems perfect for the job.
Edit: 2 months after commenting and purchasing, this is 100% worth it for what I need.
Excellent review; very informative.
Glad it was helpful!
I just buyed a similat device with a Intel N95 16 GB RAM, 512GB M2.SSD for just 130€. The price is insanly cheap. I will use this PC as a server, since the CPU only takey 15 Watts. This thing is perfect for a Homeserver
That is quite much for a modern device, most MacMini's are around 10W.
Cheers for the video 😀
I wouldn't be buying a Mini PC with a N5105 processor, when devices with the N100 processor are now available... unless it was significantly cheaper.
Here in the UK, the river-named-retailer is discounting the Beelink Mini-S12 and Trigkey units with N100 / 16G / 500G to around 195 GBP (240'ish USD), which is around £15 more than the AK1 Pro reviewed!
I know there's not much diference in the CPU's headline specs (Same Core/Thread count and similar speeds). But 13th gen vs 10th gen, more cache, lower TDP and AV1 decode, makes me think it's worth a few more dollhairs 👍
If you've got a specific use and every buck saved is worth it... then your mileage may of course vary 🙂
Fair points. There’s a huge amount of competition at this level… and lots of discounting! The choice might come down to features like the expandable storage on this one… which might make the difference for some buyers.
Not just alder lake but Ryzen based ones as well.
got the DDR5 version of the Trigkey that has dual ethernet ports - have ESXi 8.0 installed and have an OpnSense VM running on it has my internet firewall - works great - bit more expensive, think I paid around £240 for it
Great video. Just ordered one.
Hope you enjoy it!
This mini pc is sold by several brands, I have a couple different AK1 pros and they came from Kamrui and Ace Magician, there are some other brands that uses the same hardware as well but just rebranded. Still they are decent computers for the price, I would have to look back at my test but I think the AK1 Pro actually didnt do bad for cloud gaming, I did some halo and stuff using xbox and it actually worked but definitely not for gaming. I noticed a lot of the mini pc's have a slower wifi speed but mine normally get around 150 speeds which is doable but still crap considering I have gig speeds and my macbook pro can get 800+
They sent me one as well. I'm wondering if I could use it as a dedicated 3D printer computer
A tip from a sys admin, your unifi setup can run some very high 5Ghz channels. Make sure it is connecting to 5Ghz and not your 2.4Ghz band by mistake. I've noticed some of those after market wifi adapters cannot handle the really high 5Ghz channels. For example, my older amazon firestick will not negoatiate with anything above channel 44. I had to drop my 5Ghz channel down to match the weakest link of my network devices to get full functionality.
Great tip! Thank you 👍🏻
I have a question if you can help me! I play games on ps5 and would like to use it for streaming on social networks! Is this device good enough for that?
It looks good for automotive set ups like dual screens and video games in the back instead of a RP5 8gb.
Where is the support page with all the motherboard drivers???
Hi, what's the max power draw and idle on this thing?
Someone please help. I was setting up my new pc kamrui ak1plus and my power went out. Now I can't get past the password screen
thanks for the review, does look nice but noise is important for me, about the video, do you shoot at 4k 60hz? stats says 4k 25 fps, not sure if that is correct
Thanks for watching 👍🏻 I shoot my videos at 6k25 and output 4k25 usually.
@@ConstantGeekery i mention because it looks different, perhaps is just my tv, but i can tell the difference with other 4k30hz videos, still looks great everything, not complaining, just making the observation
@@arch1107 we have to film in 25 or 50 due to the frequency of the power in the UK (50 Hz) - the lights will appear to flicker otherwise. It might look slightly degraded on TVs in countries with 60Hz power I guess 🤔
i have just taken delivery of a later version with an Intel Alder lake CPU. just 8Gb but still with 256Gb; Amazon France it was 140€ which today converts to just £122, an absolute bargain.
You can connect the “hidden” USB-C port to anything you like just by operating the machine without the bottom disk holder attached if you like. Or by leaving the bottom attached and feeding a USB cable through a hole you put in it. Fantastic little machine BTW. Worth every penny.
P.S. Nobody will attach it to the back of a TV because you will have to reach around the back of the TV to switch it on.
Is this only made to be connected to a TV or desktop is ok too?
@@BN_Spartan It connects to any TV set or Computer Monitor with a HDMI connector. The display is excellent on my 4K 42 inch TV. It will work the exact same way on computer monitors.
(HD TV display tech and Computer Monitor tech is practically the same nowadays....the same digital wizardry.)
@@petergibson2318 i asked cause when i connected it with the hdmi of My desktop it didn't do anything at all
@@BN_Spartan Connect it to the HDMI input of a monitor or TV…not to the HDMI connector on a desktop pc.
1:02 "This bracket, let's take it out the packet"
Lunch and Coffee! 😂❤ … It maybe sounds strange, but I‘d use a macMini for that job. And stress is gone.
what is written on the power supply ?
I got the N97. I only really play one game, GTA 5, and it will run that in 720p. All of the versions of this mini PC appear to be perfectly competent. If it will run office, music editing software and play some games I'd say that's one more thing than my laptop does. I've never struggled to edit 4k video on any rubbish laptop, but I'm assuming that's because I only do very basic editing, don't care how long it takes and just use whatever program is easiest.
Essentially, I wanted a PC possible to run off a powerbank that, all in, was cheaper than a similar spec level laptop. If I'd wanted a gaming powerhouse I would have found it severely disappointing, but as an office PC it's great and if it gets broken you just buy another one. Low power consumption matters to lots of people, especially businesses and charities. The computer is on for 8-12 hours a day and, in theory, you could just take this home and continue working if you want
Complete noob here is thinking about a low end PC setup for my kid and found this. Appart from doing the basic office stuff, would this be able to play lower level graphic games like Roblox, Minecraft etc?
I don’t think this is the best choice for gaming. There are mini PCs with Ryzen CPUs and graphics for similar money which would be a better bet.
Hi I’m looking for a music production mini pc
To run reason 12 and Aturia plugins
Specs here
Fast and stable internet connection!
Intel or AMD multi-core processor
4 GB RAM (8 GB or more recommended for large ReFills or Rack Extensions)
5.5 GB free system disk space required for the Reason application, plus 8 GB for optional content (and another 12 GB if you are using the additional Reason+ Rack Extensions). Additionally, the program may use up to 20 GB scratch disk space and additional space for cached graphics assets
Windows 11 - or Windows 10 (64-bit) 1607 (Build 14393) or later
Monitor with at least 1280 x 768 resolution
Audio Interface with ASIO drive
D o you think this would be suitable and comfortably handle this please?
Don't know if the Nvidia Shield will ever get a new model, may have to use this as a media & Kodi streamer!
Even in age that is still far better than this for media playback.
Thanks for the review. I suspect the device defaulted to a local account because it didn't see an internet connection, which would be needed to access your Microsoft account.
It never asked for a WiFi connection like the setup usually does 🤷🏼♂️
@@ConstantGeekery Perhaps because the device couldn't see the WiFi network. You mentioned low download speeds when you hooked it up to your TV. All of this is completely speculative on my part, of course. I can't resist troubleshooting.
@@bryans8656 😁 you could be right. The sticker I ripped off at the start said something about logging into your account after setup. I did try showing it to the camera, but the auto focus wasn’t working so we had to remove it from the edit. I was wondering if maybe they load the wifi drivers after the initial setup, if that’s even a thing 🤷🏼♂️
@@ConstantGeekery I think I heard somewhere that Windows 11 Pro doesn't have the mandatory requirement for a Microsoft account sign in on set-up like the standard home versions do. I guess it might be true?
@@AdamSanges Didn't know that - makes perfect sense though!
Would game emulation work on this
16GB RAM and a 512GB SSD at this price point… wouldn’t it be nice if Apple could adopt these as minimum specs? 😁
The only reason it that low is because of the crappy processor and competition. Apple does not need to deal with that.
I got it for 12g and 286 storage how
@@tendosingh5682apple is shit too. Youre just a fanboy. How pathetic do you have to be to defend a company you have nothing to do with
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Very strange/interesting. I recognized this computer because I own one that looks identical to this in all respects(including the drive base and even the bronze vent blue LED color), except it is branded as 'ACE PC AK1' and has an ACEPC logo on top. My unit has an Apollo Lake J3455 cpu, 4GB ram and a 64GB EMMC drive(that looks to be m-sata, so replaceable with a proper ssd?). I bought it used at €50 to use as a HTPC because it is the cheapest and smallest/low power option I could find that will play 10 bit H265 video hardware accelerated. My CPU is about 2x slower than the N5105 and feels fine for my uses.
I’ve seen this under a few different brandnames. I’m guessing retailers can buy it in a number of different specs to retail it how they like. €50 for a usable PC is a good deal! 😁
@@ConstantGeekery yeah seems like it. I do wonder what the support situation is because of it. Finding a nice driver download page that remains updated and online in the future might be a problem. But yes, at these prices it is still a deal.
Does this support hdr?
What is the power-consumption under IDLE/low load?
I googled it for you, it’s about 10-12W
Can I run fl studio on this PC sir?
Can a mini PC have Linux installed? I mean for performance purposes.
Or there is the best mini PC for Linux ?
You can install Linux on any PC. Just do a bit of research to make sure there are drivers in your chosen distro for the sound card, wifi, bluetooth etc.
I see, thanks!!! @@ConstantGeekery
Anyone run Adobe light room and Capcut one this. How does it run?
Does the USB-C port have Power Delivery (PD) capability?
I doubt it. Its only purpose seems to be for the SATA expansion. It's not even mentioned in the specs.
@@ConstantGeekery Ok. Thx much!
Does this play Nintendo switch games??
could i use this as a streaming pc alternative
Might be a little underpowered for that.
Design look like some HP model a few years before
How would this handle retro game emulation?
The CPU is 4x better than the one in rpi4b so I doubt it would be any problem.
What version of HDMI port are they ? 2.0 ? 2.1 ?
2.0
@@ConstantGeekery Thanks a lot mate
@@ConstantGeekeryDo you know if it does support 144hz with 2560x1440 monitors ?
@@akpade It might be technically possible, but I expect it can't do it. The max resolution in the specs is 4k @ 60Hz. 1440p @ 144Hz would require more graphics power and bandwidth.
@@ConstantGeekery Even if it's just for watching videos ? I'm not gonna game on it, I'm gonna use my Shadow computer (cloud computing service). Thanks a lot for your answers and help btw 👍
Would I be able to run Batocera on this ?
Yes you can, up to PS2 port, run no problem
Thinking of getting one for my dad who only plays facebook games thats it lol. His old PC is so slow
I'm a dad, and i would love if my kid done this for me
And there is a reason no mention of processor. There are better options at this price point ALDER LAKE AND RYZEN.
It has a Shitty wifi card. Mines wouldn’t connect out the box. You’ll need an Ethernet cord and be ready for random shutdowns 😊
Same deal. Wi-Fi kept turning itself off. Three freezes in a row. Then powered itself off. Upon restart, frozen in login screen. Bios looked correct but defaulted it anyway. No change. Garbage. Then read about the malware pre-installed….. returned!
Did you eat a Lemon before your sour test?
Sorry if this is a daft thing to ask but would it run Fallout 4? there said it lol
I don't think the GPU is strong enough 😁
Please, for that money and size . . . Be happy
Will this run Corel Draw 16
It looks like it meets the system requirements on Corel's website.
My Athlon 200ge (2 cores 4 threads) from ~2018 runs CorelDraw 2017 fine
It will without any issues, also Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, even blender or SketchUp if you are working on light 3d modeling
Has anyone tried to install Linux Mint on one of these?
Replying to myself, Following this review I bought this item but got the upgraded Alder Lake CPU. Never bothered with W11, instead booted straight into Linux Mint + Cinnamon install from bootable USB. Install was simple and boring. Changed boot order to boot into new Linux as first choice and job done. Its superb. The OS is cruising along at a couple of % CPU and about 1.5GB Memory being consumed. I'm using it for cloud development so with a handful of languages, VSCode and other bits and bobs, its phenomenal. It's completely silent, boots in seconds and the experience in Cinammon is really beautiful. Highly recommended!
Does it do fortnite ifbit does i will buy it litgit right now
Meh on the CPU. Waiting to see what they come up with when they move to current CPUs.
Try putting linux in it and watch this little man go vroooom
So you're telling me it can't emulate ps3? 🤔
macbook pro is slow only 137mb download speed WOW my HP gets 1200mb download speed and it is 10 years old
The Internet connection speed has nothing to do with the brand of laptop.
No wonder it is so slow.
Its got a celeron processor.
Im sorry this is kinda e-waste at this performance level. bought a Beelink Ser5 pro (8/16 core 5800H With 15gb/512GB SSD) 2 months ago during AliExpress sales. it was $310. the memory was ADATA (Samsung chips) and the SSD Kingston 2700 MB/sec. I handles any game at 720p.
Fair point if you want to game, but that’s over 50% more money, which at this level makes a huge difference to what’s possible. For some applications the performance is plenty.
@@ConstantGeekery the CPU is like %450 better with its 8/16 cores. Im sure you'll find MUCH better boxes based on ryzen cpu for around $250,
@@TheGrizz485 I wasn't disputing that it's better, just highlighting the economics involved. $70 - $120 might seem like a small uplift (which it is if you need that performance) but at this price point those increases make a BIG difference to the specs.
For me, I would prefer to have the additional performance for that price like you, but we have to recognise that not all users have the same requirements. 👍🏻
For example, take a school that needs simple desktops for classroom use... this PC might be fine for that use case. Consider that if you multiply that increase in price across a room full of mini PCs in a school, for performance that isn't needed, and it's quite the uplift.
Not e waste at all, its perfect for connecting to your big screen TV and running all your daily comp needs and torrenting streaming, youtube, at way less then the one you listed which IS e waste since its still useless for any serious gaming and is much higher price
🙄 are you trying to use this as an actual computer? These specs are perfect for many home server applications.
Imo systems like yours that are just good enough to play games current gen games (in 720p lol) or whatever are more in the e-waste category. Just build a $500 gaming computer at that point.
Celeron processor? no thanks, even Samsung phones have better processors than that
i m at mid video but under 200 dolar 11 pro licance out of question so clealry all this kind divices specially chinese etc prducts are ilgeal copies
so either they gone ask u not connect inernet before u done setop or forced refular ofline setup.
some of this kind mdoels like 65gfcssd 4-8 gb ram like 100 dola pro licancesif was legit they gone lose money big tme even bulk discount wont be enough
i never used one bu i think its comon logic
You may well be right. From the dim recesses of my memory, I seem to recall that Microsoft had a vastly reduced licence cost on budget machines... not available to general public, but I thought systems integrators could get deals. I could be wrong about that, though there are plenty of very cheap laptops from major brands with Windows licences.
Amazing until it arrives and fucking breaks a few days after starting - Buy a pile of crap and have better results
First! 😂🎉
Can you stop running these apps and run fortnite or minecraft 👀 just for a better overall review when it comes to certain games
can i plz have a pc i dont have money any pc plz
I have now taken a long time (2 weeks) to operate the device properly.
System error of various modules MSVCP140.dll, VCRUNTIME140_1.dll, VCRUNTIME140.dll, not found.
WLAN very, very weak compared to only 1/10 the speed of other components for me.
25MBit/sec. achieved - All other components run with at least 100 MBit/sec up to 990 MBit/sec.
SKY cannot always be received without severe pixel interference.
So workaround: External USB WLAN stick that works on all other devices does not work properly on the device. Strangely 2.4 GHz doesn't work, 5 GHz yes - but only for 2 minutes, then WLAN DEAD.
Standard storage Samsung 1TB SSD980 NVMe M.2 SSD cannot be used in the device.
New installation of Windows 11 with standard USB boot stick --> Many errors: no drivers for PCI device, SM bus controller and an unknown device. Audio doesn't work anymore.
WLAN connections still break down after about 2 minutes.
Solutions:
Reinstall special "Chinese-Windows 11" with their drivers (on Google Drive).
Using separate USB-WLAN-Stick >> more performance
Conclusion:
Device is working now. After many, many days of writing back and forth, found out that on Google Drive (Chinese special solution):
a) there is a complete installation package for Windows 11 including the required drivers.
b) there is a driver package for Windows 11, because a standard Windows installation alone is not sufficient and drivers cannot be found automatically.
There are also two instructional videos on Google Drive.
I get no answer from the Chinese as to why they don't have a homepage like Hewlett Packard, for example, where you can download the required drivers "menu-driven" for every operating system.
... AND One sentence a day about my problems is just not enough. They could also have written everything at once - compactly, what needs to be done!!!
ODD SUPPORT but always friendly. 😏
What the future will bring with Windows and this device - who knows...
Hello, do you can send the videos or the google drive url ? I cant boot every time that graphical driver its updated...
@@parkpark9899 The manufacturer's help department will send you the link.
Thanks for comments.
Have ordered it. No fortune. Installed. Windows has updated. Than fault messages VCRUNTIME140.dll, MSVCP140.dll on three funcions mouse, audio. Not fixed yet. Than ultra low speed on WLAN: 25 MBit/sec. Than plugged in a USB to Wlan stick. 2,4 GHz no connection to my wlan. 5 GHz connection ok but only about 2 minutes connection to internet than break down. But speed with USB to Wlan would be 240 MBit/sec. Than test with ethernet connection. Same - connection breaks down at about 2-3 minutes.
Device would be nice. Service would be quick. But the device is currently unusable. Support hasn't responded yet. Support page given on AMAZON is incorrect or no longer available. Error 404.
Any idea, what to do?
I would try a fresh Windows install first, but otherwise return it for a replacement or refund. It shouldn't be like that.
@@ConstantGeekery Just Windows Update runs - > Memory > 2000 "hard faults/sec." - don't know is it normal.
@@christophrau8725 Hard faults are not actually errors - it just means that the system had to retrieve a block of memory from swap (page file). If you get a lot, it's an indication the system needs more RAM.
The missing DLLs are to do with Visual C++ packages. When I see an installation doing weird things and missing core packages, I wipe the machine and do a fresh install. You might prefer to return the device.
If you want to try the install (at your own risk, and I can't provide tech support), you can download Windows files here: www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11
There are plenty of online tutorials and guides to help.
@@ConstantGeekery Thanks for answers - BUT:
I have installed standard WINDOWS 11 Pro. I think I don't need a key - it's in ROM.
There components that WINDOWS does not recognize ??
WHY is my USB-WLAN-stick, that is functional on all my systems (and I have many), not functional on this PC and WLAN breaks down after few minutes?
Internal WLAN very, very weak - only 1/10 performance of WLAN-USB-stick
Devices which are faulty in WINDOWS standard installation:
a) PCI-device
b) SM-Bus-controller
c) unknown device
They don't answer on this questions but give me a download path on google.
IS THIS A CHINA-SPY-PC ??
@@christophrau8725 sounds like you need drivers. I didn’t see any spyware on it.
Would game emulation work on this
I don't see why not - a lot of folks use mini PCs for this. It should have enough performance for most retro console emulation. There are even more powerful options available at a similar price point too.