We might consider that the lack of sources mentioning healing rituals in the Norse sources could be due to who wrote them down, i.e. Christian monks who reserved healing magic solely for their god and very possibly may have hidden the practice from memory in order to kill it.
I'd say that's true of most rituals, the few we have left are often Christianized. Even the Anglo Saxon rune poem references Jesus, and it's believed that all the kennings for Jesus were originally kennings for Baldur. A lot of that is because Jesus is portrayed as a Sun/summer god in skaldic poetry, and we have barely any kennings for Baldur.
For blacksmithing and shamanism, I know that in the Bronze Age that was a pretty common connection. One kind of bronze involves arsenic which caused hallucinations. A lot of African cultures, the Yorobo and their god Ogun (spelling) come to mind, have blacksmiths still connected to shamanism.
@@guyh.4553 Not specifically on Tyr and the function of Tyr.He have done some videos that include Tyr but he is not explaiin the function of Tyr like he have done with odin and thor.shorry for my english.ofcourse i am not complain, his videos are great but it will be nice if he will do a video about what energy tyr represents.
Great video as always mate! The Germanic/Norse people certainly had techniques of “vision quests” or “spirit journeys” as you, Maria Kvilhaug and others have noted. The myths and legendary sagas are full of references to these states and techniques. Keep up the great work and hope you’ve got some more mythic interpretation videos on the horizons, they are wealth of ideas for Nordic Animist Pagans and do a great job of dispelling the cringe haha. Cheers mate!
Maria Kvilhaug is the #1 reason I got back in touch with my Pagan roots. Huge wealth of knowledge that woman. I'd love to see a collab between their channel's
Jacob Toddson wisdom of Odin says,” the undead is not called draugr, it’s called troll-curse or spirit or restless spirit,”. Glamr was not called a draugr but he was called a tröll. Is this true? I get different answers.
I've noticed a striking similarity between Norse cosmos and a the realms of shamanic journeys. Upper world where the teachers are, the middle word where we are, and the lower world where helping spirits and power animals are. All held together by the visualization of the world tree
Shamanism (Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy), Patterns in Comparative Religion, and Myths, Dreams, and Mysteries, all by Mircea Eliade are in-depth scholarly studies of this kind of connection. See also The Road to Hel (The Conception of the Dead in Norse Literature) by Hilda Ellis, who was herself a source for Eliade. Kvilhaug is standing on the shoulders of giants. I'm going down this rabbit hole. I was told by my goði just two weeks ago, "...we need more drums." So...my finding this now is timely.
Urd well with the völva and the swans symbolizes an act of love for mother earth. If you show it you get more of that knowledge. You should not mix Shamanism in Nordic mythology. But I see strong similarities With the Celtic, and Kalevala. a heavenly father to attract often just create a good flow in life. We Have Noita, Völva Tietäjä and Seidir also the places are connected to it.. Runo Virsi are power songs to the four wind elements. or water are different. as well as Galdra
for the nganasans (uralic speaking people) it´s an 8-legged wild deer whose one horn is summer and other horn winter :) (the traditional seasons) with nenets shamans it´s a 7-horned sacred deer that can be called in for demanding tasks (in other tales a 7-winged bird). (they could be constellations, because the big dipper is the heavenly elk, so when they say 6-legged beast turns into 4-legged one, might be a change in a constellation) they are the high gods in this worldview, the most powerful beings that can be called for help, who grant the shaman their powers and give lesser helpers. but it can be argued that they were still ancestral shamans, originally (because the shamans had names like "7-headed one"). different from the lesser spirits or helper animals that act on behalf of the shaman (the shaman is basically the narrator of their adventures). you can also make a separation to those that followed an ancestral shaman (spirit=grandmother) and those that actually married the main spirit (spirit=lover). also you can argue that the main spirit is the ride / boat / vehicle (whose shape the shaman takes when travelling in the other). sometimes it´s instead a tree or rock that resembles a human (which sounds older to me than imagined things, or maybe a gender difference). it can be argued that it was more about putting yourself in the role of the animal than imagining things ("oh my little fly, rise higher, i want to see further"). also the worlds that they visited weren´t static (different every time, even different on the way there and back, which could be compared to dreams or memories, they literally say that the main instructions came from dreams). point being it was very local, anyone who says it was "this and this" is wrong (it was all of it, and much more, but much less for a single practicioner, you don´t need that much shit, keep it simple smart).
I also remember seeing this rare 8 legged depiction of the Wonder Stag, sometimes also referred to as Táltosszarvas. One Hungarian folk tale also depicts the horse with 6.
Jacob Toddson wisdom of Odin says,” the undead is not called draugr, it’s called troll-curse or spirit or restless spirit,”. Glamr was not called a draugr but he was called a tröll. Is this true? I get different answers.
@@taylorfusher2997 Jacob toddson from wisdom of odin is the biggest dumbass when it comes to norse practice, if you like new age spirituality that does not strive to do the practice like our ancestors did, then you can listen to this redhead, otherwise i'd stop watching the bs he puts out on yt, nothing he says has anything to do with the way the norse people practiced, all his information is from the eddas and he takes them literally.
hi could you make some videos about the nordic people in southern europe for example romania greece serbia and the balkans generally? Also keep up the good work!
I didn't know about the connection between smiths and shamanism. The sky father of the Proto-Uralic people before Ukko was called "Ilma ićä." He became the Finnish smith god Ilmarinen.
To Norse magic and belief: Jacob Toddson wisdom of Odin says,” the undead is not called draugr, it’s called troll-curse or spirit or restless spirit,”. Glamr was not called a draugr but he was called a tröll. Is this true? I get different answers.
A German Scholar (Wolf-Dieter Storl) wrote a theory that the eight legs of sleipnir (or the other creatures) represent the four pallbearers (4x2=8) meaning that you have to die (or come close to death) to travel to the otherworld. I don’t know how long humans have been carried by 4 people to their grave but it makes sense to me.
I have worked with Mani for a long time, and He has helped me through quite a bit. I was wondering if you have any sources for more information on Him? I know He is mentioned with Sol in an Edda but have not found much else. Any direction you could send me is much appreciated!
@@King-Fairhair There is a good book that goes into detail called The One Eyed God by Krenshaw. But in short they are both Gods of divine frenzy with lots of mythic parallels
A crazy hippy working with a frenzy type of spirit piercing himself and hanging from a tree to gain knowledge is a lot like a native American Sundance ,kinda interesting
I imagine Ragnar from the Vikings show in the later seasons with the chinese prisoner smoking the magic puff playing tricks with snakes and other animals creating wild stories and whatnot.
also id prefer real images ovre ai. i dont think ai images add much tot he vid. u can make the vid more entertaining than a guy talking to the camera, but still make it educational, using real images.
The number 8 represents Wisdom. Odin is Supreme Consciousness. Consciousness rides on Wisdom. This itself is a Shamanic reference. Norse mythology is full of metaphors .... Like hidden shamanic instructions. People only see the surface but everything is in code. Like the Rig Veda it needs to be interpreted. No one understands the deeper meanings anymore. Need to look deeper at every word. Yggdrasil is Odin's Steed ... Matter. He is Consciousness, She is Matter. Mind and Body. Like Isis is Osiris's throne. He, Supreme Consciousness, is the Eagle at the top, like the brain at top of the body. The Tree is Great Mother.
I am sure you have heard about the god Ülgen... I am also sure you know whose god is he as well. 🙂 You talked about Siberians, Yakuts, (even Mongols)... please don't be shy to say the real blood-roots, nation, and culture they are from.
Greetings from germany and many thanks for sharing your knowledge! 🖖
God Jól Thor! Hope you feast well and your year's crop is healthy and plenty!
We might consider that the lack of sources mentioning healing rituals in the Norse sources could be due to who wrote them down, i.e. Christian monks who reserved healing magic solely for their god and very possibly may have hidden the practice from memory in order to kill it.
Or omited it in order not to get killed themselves
I'd say that's true of most rituals, the few we have left are often Christianized. Even the Anglo Saxon rune poem references Jesus, and it's believed that all the kennings for Jesus were originally kennings for Baldur. A lot of that is because Jesus is portrayed as a Sun/summer god in skaldic poetry, and we have barely any kennings for Baldur.
For blacksmithing and shamanism, I know that in the Bronze Age that was a pretty common connection. One kind of bronze involves arsenic which caused hallucinations. A lot of African cultures, the Yorobo and their god Ogun (spelling) come to mind, have blacksmiths still connected to shamanism.
a video about Tyr would be nice!!
He's already done videos on Tyr
@@guyh.4553 Not specifically on Tyr and the function of Tyr.He have done some videos that include Tyr but he is not explaiin the function of Tyr like he have done with odin and thor.shorry for my english.ofcourse i am not complain, his videos are great but it will be nice if he will do a video about what energy tyr represents.
@@guyh.4553 a! he upload a nice 40 minutes video on Tyr 3 hours before your comment
Great video as always mate! The Germanic/Norse people certainly had techniques of “vision quests” or “spirit journeys” as you, Maria Kvilhaug and others have noted. The myths and legendary sagas are full of references to these states and techniques.
Keep up the great work and hope you’ve got some more mythic interpretation videos on the horizons, they are wealth of ideas for Nordic Animist Pagans and do a great job of dispelling the cringe haha.
Cheers mate!
“vision quests” or “spirit journeys” -best job ever
Maria Kvilhaug is the #1 reason I got back in touch with my Pagan roots. Huge wealth of knowledge that woman. I'd love to see a collab between their channel's
@@michaeldoerksen2841 that would be an incredible conversation! Great to hear you’ve reawakened your own pagan roots, we must keep it alive and well
As Michael said… Thor, a conversation/collaboration with you and Maria Kvilhaug would be an absolute gold mine to see. Let’s make it happen!!!
Jacob Toddson wisdom of Odin says,” the undead is not called draugr, it’s called troll-curse or spirit or restless spirit,”. Glamr was not called a draugr but he was called a tröll. Is this true? I get different answers.
I ❤ this channel and Learn so much. Very Important to keep Ancestry Alive! 💥💪💯
As always very interesting, much thanks for sharing.
I've noticed a striking similarity between Norse cosmos and a the realms of shamanic journeys. Upper world where the teachers are, the middle word where we are, and the lower world where helping spirits and power animals are. All held together by the visualization of the world tree
Shamanism (Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy), Patterns in Comparative Religion, and Myths, Dreams, and Mysteries, all by Mircea Eliade are in-depth scholarly studies of this kind of connection. See also The Road to Hel (The Conception of the Dead in Norse Literature) by Hilda Ellis, who was herself a source for Eliade.
Kvilhaug is standing on the shoulders of giants.
I'm going down this rabbit hole. I was told by my goði just two weeks ago, "...we need more drums."
So...my finding this now is timely.
what do you think of Urd Brunn and Swans with clear water and the völvan that waters yggdrasill
That sounds very interesting. I definitely want to understand more about this. Great suggestion.
What’s the primary source
Urd well with the völva and the swans symbolizes an act of love for mother earth. If you show it you get more of that knowledge. You should not mix Shamanism in Nordic mythology. But I see strong similarities With the Celtic, and Kalevala. a heavenly father to attract often just create a good flow in life. We Have Noita, Völva Tietäjä and Seidir also the places are connected to it.. Runo Virsi are power songs to the four wind elements. or water are different. as well as Galdra
Ty for continuing your amazing videos my friend .. I hope life is treating you very well 😎 ✌️ ❤️
You're the professor I wish I had in college.....
for the nganasans (uralic speaking
people) it´s an 8-legged wild deer
whose one horn is summer and other
horn winter :)
(the traditional seasons)
with nenets shamans it´s a 7-horned
sacred deer that can be called in for
demanding tasks (in other tales
a 7-winged bird).
(they could be constellations,
because the big dipper is the
heavenly elk, so when they say
6-legged beast turns into 4-legged
one, might be a change in a
constellation)
they are the high gods in this
worldview, the most powerful
beings that can be called for help,
who grant the shaman their powers
and give lesser helpers.
but it can be argued that they
were still ancestral shamans,
originally (because the shamans
had names like "7-headed one").
different from the lesser
spirits or helper animals that act on
behalf of the shaman (the shaman is
basically the narrator of their
adventures).
you can also make a separation to
those that followed an ancestral
shaman (spirit=grandmother) and
those that actually married the main
spirit (spirit=lover).
also you can argue that the main
spirit is the ride / boat / vehicle
(whose shape the shaman takes
when travelling in the other).
sometimes it´s instead a tree or
rock that resembles a human (which
sounds older to me than imagined
things, or maybe a gender difference).
it can be argued that it was more
about putting yourself in the role
of the animal than imagining things
("oh my little fly, rise higher,
i want to see further").
also the worlds that they visited
weren´t static (different every time,
even different on the way there
and back, which could be compared
to dreams or memories, they literally
say that the main instructions came
from dreams).
point being it was very local, anyone who says it was "this and
this" is wrong (it was all of it, and
much more, but much less for a
single practicioner, you don´t need
that much shit, keep it simple
smart).
I also remember seeing this rare 8 legged depiction of the Wonder Stag, sometimes also referred to as Táltosszarvas.
One Hungarian folk tale also depicts the horse with 6.
Now I’m curious if the eight legged animals were a dual soul type representation. A creature of both spirit & flesh making it of both.
It's a spider horse
Like a Spider, Squid or Octopi 🍷
From my experience and practice Odins horse who has eight legs represents odin being connected to all 8 directions. That’s how he travels the worlds.
Jacob Toddson wisdom of Odin says,” the undead is not called draugr, it’s called troll-curse or spirit or restless spirit,”. Glamr was not called a draugr but he was called a tröll. Is this true? I get different answers.
@@taylorfusher2997 Jacob toddson from wisdom of odin is the biggest dumbass when it comes to norse practice, if you like new age spirituality that does not strive to do the practice like our ancestors did, then you can listen to this redhead, otherwise i'd stop watching the bs he puts out on yt, nothing he says has anything to do with the way the norse people practiced, all his information is from the eddas and he takes them literally.
Great as always!
Greetings from Sweden! ✋🏻💙💛🇸🇪
Is it fair to say that Odin can also mean the Mad One?
💯 Your thinking of the modern understanding of “mad”. It is probably more closely related to frenzy in definition at the time, than addled minds.
@@kariannecrysler640 I see, thanks for the info man.
@@zarkokaradzin5380 ✌️💚🤘 great question to ask!
just discovered this channel and i love it. Btw you look like a such viking chad
Im curious if you seen any of asha logos work. I think you would appreciate it. The channel is on YT
hi could you make some videos about the nordic people in southern europe for example romania greece serbia and the balkans generally? Also keep up the good work!
Its like in Finnland. We have different gods and myths,also the shamanismus its the same with siberian and even Little bit of Indien shamanismus
WE are ONE. THE ARYAN PEOPLE NEED TO REDISCOVER THEIR ROOTS
Tack för en lärorik video 🙂
Thanks for the video ⚔️
Hello from norway, i love your videos👍🏻🍺
Let me say HAIL THOR for a Thorsday
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Literally seen this tree and a horse during meditation last night
Very interesting. The music at the end sounds great too. Does it have a title?
I didn't know about the connection between smiths and shamanism. The sky father of the Proto-Uralic people before Ukko was called "Ilma ićä." He became the Finnish smith god Ilmarinen.
To Norse magic and belief:
Jacob Toddson wisdom of Odin says,” the undead is not called draugr, it’s called troll-curse or spirit or restless spirit,”. Glamr was not called a draugr but he was called a tröll. Is this true? I get different answers.
A German Scholar (Wolf-Dieter Storl) wrote a theory that the eight legs of sleipnir (or the other creatures) represent the four pallbearers (4x2=8) meaning that you have to die (or come close to death) to travel to the otherworld. I don’t know how long humans have been carried by 4 people to their grave but it makes sense to me.
When was the first record of Norse beliefs? When do we think it started?
You're awesome!
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I have worked with Mani for a long time, and He has helped me through quite a bit. I was wondering if you have any sources for more information on Him? I know He is mentioned with Sol in an Edda but have not found much else. Any direction you could send me is much appreciated!
I remember two past life as a shaman/witch in the Viking age Denmark and Iceland.
We view the staff, as völur, as the axis mundi as well.
Lots of similarities between Odin and Vedic Rudra-Shiva
Can you explain how?
@@King-Fairhair There is a good book that goes into detail called The One Eyed God by Krenshaw. But in short they are both Gods of divine frenzy with lots of mythic parallels
A crazy hippy working with a frenzy type of spirit piercing himself and hanging from a tree to gain knowledge is a lot like a native American Sundance ,kinda interesting
what we know about mystical creatures as 🐉 and mermaids in vikings world ?
Yggdrasil 🙏
I imagine Ragnar from the Vikings show in the later seasons with the chinese prisoner smoking the magic puff playing tricks with snakes and other animals creating wild stories and whatnot.
7:09 dat looks like... hol up🤪
The word brunnr sound similar to a serbian word Bunar(well)
Or the German „Brunnen“- „well“
They are the same word.
you spelled parallels wrong in the thumbnail
native tribe knowledge devil tower in Wyoming usa was a geant tree connected to all other trees
i believe was more of those tree in world
Gleðileg Jól!
I'm convinced that I'm the one who knows what they're talking about.
show old norse translation below english transliterations of key terms and names?
also id prefer real images ovre ai. i dont think ai images add much tot he vid. u can make the vid more entertaining than a guy talking to the camera, but still make it educational, using real images.
who asked @@saxazax
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Interesting. Im a blacksmith.
The number 8 represents Wisdom. Odin is Supreme Consciousness. Consciousness rides on Wisdom. This itself is a Shamanic reference. Norse mythology is full of metaphors .... Like hidden shamanic instructions. People only see the surface but everything is in code. Like the Rig Veda it needs to be interpreted. No one understands the deeper meanings anymore. Need to look deeper at every word.
Yggdrasil is Odin's Steed ... Matter. He is Consciousness, She is Matter. Mind and Body. Like Isis is Osiris's throne. He, Supreme Consciousness, is the Eagle at the top, like the brain at top of the body. The Tree is Great Mother.
I am sure you have heard about the god Ülgen... I am also sure you know whose god is he as well. 🙂
You talked about Siberians, Yakuts, (even Mongols)... please don't be shy to say the real blood-roots, nation, and culture they are from.