I love to learn about all forms of religion in this world. It strengthens my own beliefs in a way, and broadens perspective on what it is that humans have seen throughout our time here
This was awesome! Would love to see a long form video on what we call Celtic Christianity or Celtic spirituality today and how it came to develop the unique identity of 4th to 10th century Christianity in the British isles
Filip, I just wanted to say that you communicate with the temperance and conviction of someone who has fully awoken to his purpose in life. It is impossible to overstate how much your work has broadened the spiritual & philosophical horizons of so many across the world, how much it has enriched our understanding of the fascinating and interconnected intellectual genealogy of religious thought and popularized a common vocabulary to talk about the many mystical & faith traditions that form part of our collective human experience. I see in you the embodiment of the state of baqa, of subsistence, of being infused with the light of the One yet also being fully in the world to practice and share the truths you have been revealed in the course of your own journey. With the deepest of gratitude for your service. 🙏🏽
I would like to join this comment. I too have found your teaching highly enriching intellectually as well as something beyond. And the the Talk about the Seidr.. the nordic shamanism of sorts. Was particularly eye opening. Not for its content.. but by the Way you relate to it. Thank You Teacher
I dont know if i missed this being mentioned (and i am going of memory so pinch of salt for everything that follows) but the word seidr does live on in the modern language. Sed (singular) and seder (plural) are swedish words that somewhat translates to customes and perhaps ritual and tradition. Its a bit old fashion but lives on in some sayings like "ta seden dit man kommer" literary "take the custom/tradition where you end up" or less literally but more accurately "when in rome, do as the romans". This of course was not nessessery the original meaning but its interesting that this is where it ended up and is a fun source of speculation for hos it might have been viewd
I'm so thankful for your teaching. I follow and learn Christianity, Suffi, Buduism, and others. I watch all your videos and feel you are like one of my Professors in University that taught me so much.. I appreciate your content and will continue to watch and learn all that you teach. If you are ever in Georgetown, Texas, I'd love to make or buy dinner with my friends. We are studying religion and love your videos. We watch together and talk about religion. Thank you for your content and opening up the conversation of religion for all of us that have different views. You are a great Teacher. Thank you!
Would be interesting for you to look into the New rise of Norse faith in the modern-day world amongst young Polytheists, especially those in Scandinavia and parts of America.
You're right this would be fascinating, it's amazes me the spectrum of practicioners. You can get like peace loving hippie types and then also guys like Varg Vikernes ( Far right nutbag )
It makes sense that the Sami, as "outsiders" to the Norse culture, would be associated with a more mystical practice. The pattern of going to the fringes of society for divination and maybe esoteric knowledge is familiar to those who know Indian folk religion. I've seen people do divination after being possessed by a deity (gramadevta or kuldevta, not the more familiar general deities of Hinduism), often triggered by music and ritual.
T(S)amil India K(S)ami Japan Samichlausen like Santa Claus in Switzerland. Or Sama the Sungott of Mesopot(s)amia. SamAria First capital city from Israel.. Amanita Samanita Nirvana Samsara Saaremaa wich belongs to the Sami or Inari on the north pole and Inari the foxgod of Japan.. I think the Sami are the creators of the most civilization in Eurasia the past 10.000 of years
During lockdown in 2020 I had plenty of time to read various books on this topic. One book pointed out that, 'even if Norse Paganism was written down at the time and the faith continued, it would still be different today.' Culture and religious practices change over time to suit the difference in environment and population. Change is a natural part of life, still though....as a follower of similar beliefs it feels like we're missing something.
Over the past year I've been exploring Norse religion in my own personal practice and belief, and your videos on the subject have been invaluable in providing historical context and understanding to my studies. And even outside of your discussions on this particular paradigm, I've been a fan of your videos in general for several years now. Thank you for the consistently insightful and thoughtful dives into the religions and spiritualities of the world you so generously share. 🙂💚
Thank you for creating the setting with a big fire. It suits the topic so much and really made the video more engaging. Good call. I love your content. Sorry I'm usually late. I sub to too many people to catch each on the first day they upload. And I don't get notifications regularly, even with my setting adjusted to "all." I hope you'll get to a million subs this year. You've earned it.
It’s folk magic that was practiced all throughout pagan beliefs… Seidr is magic based on weaving, pattern’s, repetition…. Galdr is magic based in sound and vibration, (throat) singing, Drums… still practiced as for example ‘kulNing’ but all rituals still exist in other forms and beliefs. Seidr is a receiving magic and Galdr is a projecting magic… feminin/masculine… but that didn’t mean men and woman didn’t use both. In Vaeniric (Va=older) it was comon on both but later in Aesiric (AE=supreme) Seidr was frowned upon if men practiced Seidr.
Oh, I would love to see an episode about Helen of the Ways the "Deermother", who is in all likelihood connecting old Nordic traditions with the ancient British religious cults. But most of all: Thank you for the good content! 🙏
In modern Norse paganism, there's a distinction to be made between reconstructionist groups (e.g. Heathenry, Asatru, etc.), which tend to be more conservative and to heavily rely on the surviving textual and archaeological evidence to reconstruct ancient traditions insofar as that is possible, and reconstructionist-derived groups, which tend to be more liberal and which use the historical evidence as a starting point, but place more emphasis on personal gnosis from direct contact with the gods and spirits in altered states of consciousness. The nuances of the latter approach are described in the book Talking to the Spirits: Personal Gnosis in Pagan Religion. Reconstructionist-derived traditions (e.g. the Northern Tradition) that use shamanistic practices to communicate with spirits are probably closer to how ancient Pagans actually practiced in my opinion, as there were no materialistic scholars or archaeologists in ancient times, but there were plenty of religious practitioners evolving various ways of practicing across different tribes and over thousands of years. The most skillful practitioners I've met learned a bit from scholarship and from other practitioners before them, but are largely spirit-taught. Spirit-taught shamans exist in other cultures such as Siberian shamanism as well. Sorcery was viewed ambivalently in ancient Norse society (as evidenced, for example, by the burning of Gullveig in Völuspa), and was even more taboo for men than for women, but that doesn't mean there weren't any male practitioners of seidr, though we might speculate that male practitioners of seidr may have usually been homosexual or bisexual or trans, as Odin had to become a woman to learn seidr from Freyja. Also, women had more freedom in the Viking Age than in most of the neighboring cultures of the time, even if it was far from a feminist society.
Oh the weight that is required of belonging to a group... Obviously ancient male norse priests and sorcerers weren´t "normal" by ancient standards, much less today's standards. If you're going to dive into a reconstructionist or otherwise modern pagan group expecting to be accepted for who you are, you have another thing coming. As in anything in this stupid life, either you fill the requirements or you don't, simple as that. Most likely the greatest shamans and seers of all times were total loners because true spirituality goes the other way, not This way of eating ,drinking ,fucking and procreating (and buying). None of that. None of that at all. Let the wise speak, the rest can be shut and go watch something else.
Very interesting. You should do a video on ramalinga swamigal. He was an interesting saint in India. Supposedly he told his followers goodbye and locked himself in a room and vanished.
Filip, I have a question about this subject that confounds me. Why do people insist on trying to tie Norse practices to (most probably) unrelated Sami and Siberian practices? What’s the obsession with attempting to shamanize the Norse, instead of attempting to fill in the gaps with what is known about more closely related Germanic cultures and peoples? I recall having seen a very interesting video a couple months ago, where a historical music recreator discussed the influence of Siberian traditional music and clothing on the modern pop perception of traditional Norse music. Could it be that the same is happening here?
"to tie/bind" is interesting because yoga means union (like yoking together), and religion also comes from the Latin religare, or "to bind". It's all talking about the same stuff. How do unify soul with body, world, and spirit.
Enthusiasm ....As The Knowledge bought Forward goes Deeper... The World and Its People's gets Smaller. Or is That Tighter Together 😊😊😊 Blessings and Gratitude
Excellent review. Comparing Kevin Grey's mastering at both speeds was very informative. If someone else is picking up the tab, I'll go for the 45RPM every time.
I've seen some evidence that fiddlers were definitely accompanying such trance rituals. Some other TH-cam who was looking into Norwegian folk fiddler music came back with claims that fiddlers used to be considered extremely important members of the community &, the Swedes have preserved in the Fossegrim myth a ritual for summoning an elf to teach such perfect fiddling that "the tables and chairs will begin to dance to your music." While that might just he figurative, it could also refer to some sort of drug enduced ritual.
Next time you want to talk about Seiðr you'll look at Annette Høst's work, yes, pretty please? Mostly in Danish, but there is a bit available in English, including a few videos here on YT.
It’s important to note that most of the written sources date from a much later period so a lot of the associated modern lore is not necessarily grounded in the original tradition. For example Thor, as a god associated with thunder, is an association based on a single line of one story in the original eddas. The gods being associated with certain domains is a later phenomenon that really comes out of medieval Christian culture comparing and overlaying the tradition to/on Greek and middle eastern pantheons and mythology
Odin was taught Seidr because he is also the god of magic and in old norse society in order to do magic and recieve wisdom from the divine you had to embody feminine energy. Odin possesses both masculine and feminine attributes that's why Freyja gave this knowledge to him. You just have to embrace feminine energy. Great video! I'm sorry for commenting too soon
@@crushinnihilism In norse tradition he does reign over certain things and has mastery over them. He is the all father which is common knowledge but is also a master of magic and knowledge as well as war. Even in this video religion for breakfast says that Odin is the God of war and knowledge. You misunderstood what I said. I thought I was talking to someone who knew about Odin enough that I didn't have to go all into it. You thought you ate but you didn't.
@@crushinnihilism Also a lot of Gods have similar attributes like Shiva and Lucifer. They're not the same but still have mastery over these areas. Knowledge and gnosis is power
@@crushinnihilism okay I was just saying he has mastery over certain things. And you know they only say God of because of what you can ask them guidance for too right? They're not restricted by any means. Or just those things. My original comment only mentioned it. I was talking about how Odin knows about magic and magic in old norse society was acquired by embracing your femininity. And Odin as an all father is both masculine and feminine in nature even though it isn't as obvious as Baphomet. That's why Odin knows the runes and abundant knowledge. He was not afraid to be "effeminate" by surrending and sacrificing part of himself and his ego to ascend higher and gain knowledge. Hanging in the tree of life and his sacrifice of his eye is what I am referring to. I am on my own path but I do revere Odin very much. So please don't try to come at me because of one phrase I said. I don't care and tbh you're just nit picking. Because my whole comment wasn't even about what Odin is the god of. My comment was about his connection to magic. It's like you're surface level trying to pick my comment. I don't even know why cause I wasn't talking to you. And tbh Nietzsche didn't speak of nihilism to be a negative nancy and comment dumb shit that the commenter wasn't even talking about. Nietzsche wrote that because life is random and pointless we can make our own points and create our lives. Our own meaning. I hope you're doing that. I know Nietzsche isn't the only nihilist philosopher but he's very popular. The path less traveled has a more beautiful view. As above so below 🌟🥀🦉
Given the linguistic gulf between the Saami, native Siberians and the old Norse, I’m very surprised that the cultural practices of the former are felt to be appropriate models for the latter.
Rhorik, the founder of the first royal dynasty of the Rus had Y-chromosome haplogroup most common in northeast asia. There were cultural connections we can barely imagine
It'd be cool to do an episode on OG Greek Bible... it will give way to the medicines used by them as well. 🎉🎉🎉 Trigger warning. Religion's origins are pretty horrible. But binding spells needed to be. Imagine a black claw entering the abyss of subconscious and calling to all those who would be at least apathetic to happenings in said texts... then closing the claw and dragging it into the light for the rest of us to be able to identify those who support the actions of the texts they are bound to.
Well, I need a large chair, some crash pads, a cool stick, some dudes to drum, like 4 oz of that kush, some shrooms, and a woman of wisdom. Just saying, a recreation of this practice may be a cool thing that could be achieved rather easily. The verbal components of the ritual present the most difficultly in reconstruction as we dont know the songs or chants used. But the material components of the ritual would not be difficult to acquire.
I've been told that the Seith woman's 'staff' was often a distaff (for spinning thread). And that these are found in their graves. This wasn't mentioned in this video, so perhaps it's not true...?
Seidr is said to be the art of weaving fate. The Norns (Norse version of the Fates found in Greek mythology) weave the fate of each individual. Seidr is the art of looking at and changing that weave for the good of one's people. So a distaff makes a lot of sense.
The concept of seidr reminds me of Vajrayana Buddhism with Tibetan Lamas and Buddhist Yogis, it also reminds me of Hatha Yoga. Kind of like a spiritual alchemy practice, there’s also the element of divination in seidr, the association it has with women or effeminate men interestingly. Shamanism, hatha yoga, alchemy. Is kind of what seidr seems, it seems almost eastern at points. For some reason I was thinking of Islam when I started reading Price, but there was no concepts in Islam that I could relate seidr to whatsoever.
Seidr is a form of the basic spiritual practice in the Old Tradition. It is the bonding of the individual consciousness with Supreme Consciousness. This was called the Sacred Marriage. In Hinduism it's called Yoga ... also meaning to bind. Freya is Great Mother. She's the Supreme One the practitioner is uniting with. In reality the practice is to realize this Union already exists but we are ignorant of it. She is all of Nature, and we are all parts of Her. When Jesus says "My yoke is easy", it's this same union he is referring to, but he calls Great Mother 'Holy Spirit'. Realizing this Sacred Union was the purpose of the Mystery Cults, and is the Purpose of Life and all spiritual practice.
If Odin was meditating standing for 9 days standing like a tree, that is called in Taoism, Zang Zhuang. You can also check out the story of Lord Bahubali, he attained Moksha in such a way standing for a whole year, birds planted nests on his hair. The hesycasts also did meditation in different yogic positions, you talk about it, even with their hands over their heads, you show an image in your video of a man standing with two men holding him. That position is to open the head chakra, the arms for what looks like an eye, the third eye. Standing for long periods of time was also part of their practice. Abba Bessarion surrounded himself with thorns and cactus for 40 days and 40 nights. All those are considered mystics. Odin was an enlightend one, like Buddha. The Vulvas (beautiful name) also did this long meditations, you talk about her sitting on her throne for 9 days, before attaining shamadi. That is also known as zazen. Milarepa I think sat infront of the wall in hes cave for 11 years... Thank you very much for the video and the music. I have interesting information about the celtíberos and tartessos, I´m finding out now, here in Iberia, they were first cousins with Odin and Vulva!
@@drachenfeIs to be in a cave or the forest there is no need to be a monk, quite the contrary. I´m just saying that the practice of meditation in different possitions, sitting, standing, etc. is universal, used by all cultures to attain shamadi. And also with the use of drugs combined in this case, and also many others. We are human, please, different drops, same ocean.
It's great that Filip mentions Neil Price's book in his bibliography. Anyone interested in actual archaeological findings and the limits of available source material in the context of Seidhr should absolutely get this book: Price, Neil (2019). "The Viking Way: Magic and Mind in Late Iron Age Scandinavia". Oxbow Books; 2nd ed. edition.
Kanalınizdaki konulara merakım var, ancak ne sizin ne de size benzer kanalların Türkçe altyazısı yok. Bu çok üzücü, Türkçe altyazılı dinleyerek İngilizceyi daha iyi anlayabilirdim. Birçok dil için altyazı var ama Türkçe yok😢
It have also strong connections tp spychedlöeliics. From just. SEIDER TREE. what I want say os. Seider tree is one of the magical union. That you get Special brev. Iowaska
There is a slight irony in using the word "pantheon" to talk about the Norse gods. Mainly as the word is greek. Granted I get it. And there was speculation as to using the words Aesir and Vanir to describe their culmination of gods.
Well, there is a limit to how many terms we can import into English. Should we also use an indigenous-language term for the gods of Hinduism, another one for the Yoruba deities (oops, that is a Latin term), etc? In fact, can we even use the word "god" for religions of non-Germanic origin?
I’ve been playing Assassin’s Creed Valhalla and they had a Vólva but they also translated Seiðr as just magic and not a ritual. Seiðr is sort of just used broadly to describe any type of magic whether that be good or bad. I know we are working with limited information, but I wish they used the word less broadly.
14:43 dude, is that why the women's genitals are called "vulva" aka the "staff bearer"? I looked up the etymology of this word, it meant wrapper and here in this Norse mythology it means "staff bearer", and I am sure everyone knows which "staff" I'm talking about here. I'm sorry but this whole naming is very... misogynistic. Is that how you identify the woman....
Filip, you being Swedish, you had no time to go to Norway? in Innland Norway many had a grandmother who had some connection to this. Into even modern times. This is strange to me, that you chose not to do.
The concepts described here can be extrapolated to include much more modern concepts of Witchcraft (minus the Christian stigma / connotations) and Pagan Gaia worshippers which are all related to ancient fertility rites, with sex rituals playing a big role. Shamanic drumming and trance states are intrinsic Seidr rituals, and it's not hard to imagine how the War centric PIE people who worshipped Thunder Gods would be intrigued by these foreign concepts, and thus integrated Freya, who famously practiced Seidr, as a consort / companion to their native deity Wotan. Once the two cultures had become more widely integrated over generations, and people were converted slowly to this new belief, the original Pagan rituals of the farmers were slowly displaced with only traces being left. But as one tries to untangle these Threads across the World Map and over time, similar practices can be found in Eastern, Middle-Eastern or even Asian cultures, which all share symbolism that would be identified with classical interpretations of Witchcraft, and Pagan Fertility rites, but there's an entire sphere of Spirituality that has historically been unavailable to Men, except when they choose to indulge a Woman, and only then, together, can they explore this new Spiritual Space that's now available. Very interesting stuff really...
@@ZKBruhman "war centric PIE" ahistoric take, IE speakers war as much as Sino-tibetan speakers as much as afro-semitic speakers. Calling Odin a PIE god is pure anachronism.
That's what I've found in my studies on Eastern religions. You have the southern and east Indian villages that worshipped a favorite goddess as the personification of Mother Nature (Prakriti). All of whom are incarnations of Parvati/Durga/Kali. There are also worshippers of Shiva, but Shakti is always there beside him. Shaivites and Shaktas understand the need for balance between the masculine and the feminine. Then Hinduism came from the north, and things got a bit complicated. Shaktism survived, but in many areas was made subservient to Vishnu (as you see with Lakshmi rubbing his feet). But many villages have kept their goddess worship going strong. Each goddess has her beautiful side and her terrifying side. Because Nature is beautiful AND terrifying. Modern society has chosen to forget that, and now She is fighting back.
Nothing better than sitting down by a fire to get warm and having a chat with a friendly stranger on the 'heathen' gods of old. 🙏🏻♈️
'Stay a while and listen'
As a Norse Pagan myself, it's very refreshing to see my religion be taken seriously alongside all the other religions on your channel
Send a man to odin before you call yourself His slave.
@@drachenfeIs ????????
@@drachenfeIswas it weed or shrooms?
@@drachenfeIswhat need Odin has of slaves? He is a God, Gods need nothing from mortals
@@xiuhcoatl4830 The Gods look upon us as we look upon beasts. Would you say humans "need nothing" from beasts?
I love to learn about all forms of religion in this world. It strengthens my own beliefs in a way, and broadens perspective on what it is that humans have seen throughout our time here
Very nicely put
Yes, same here.
you should make a video on ancient turkic-mongolian religion Tengrism
Oooh I'm interested in that!
This was awesome! Would love to see a long form video on what we call Celtic Christianity or Celtic spirituality today and how it came to develop the unique identity of 4th to 10th century Christianity in the British isles
This would be fantastic
Filip, I just wanted to say that you communicate with the temperance and conviction of someone who has fully awoken to his purpose in life. It is impossible to overstate how much your work has broadened the spiritual & philosophical horizons of so many across the world, how much it has enriched our understanding of the fascinating and interconnected intellectual genealogy of religious thought and popularized a common vocabulary to talk about the many mystical & faith traditions that form part of our collective human experience. I see in you the embodiment of the state of baqa, of subsistence, of being infused with the light of the One yet also being fully in the world to practice and share the truths you have been revealed in the course of your own journey. With the deepest of gratitude for your service. 🙏🏽
I would like to join this comment. I too have found your teaching highly enriching intellectually as well as something beyond. And the the Talk about the Seidr.. the nordic shamanism of sorts. Was particularly eye opening. Not for its content.. but by the Way you relate to it.
Thank You Teacher
Yes! He's the best ❤
I dont know if i missed this being mentioned (and i am going of memory so pinch of salt for everything that follows) but the word seidr does live on in the modern language. Sed (singular) and seder (plural) are swedish words that somewhat translates to customes and perhaps ritual and tradition.
Its a bit old fashion but lives on in some sayings like "ta seden dit man kommer" literary "take the custom/tradition where you end up" or less literally but more accurately "when in rome, do as the romans".
This of course was not nessessery the original meaning but its interesting that this is where it ended up and is a fun source of speculation for hos it might have been viewd
Sejd and sed are different words with different etymologies, they aren't related AFAIK.
This video really comes in handy, since I've been looking Seidr up on TH-cam.
Jackson Crawford is great Norse historian.
I'm so thankful for your teaching. I follow and learn Christianity, Suffi, Buduism, and others.
I watch all your videos and feel you are like one of my Professors in University that taught me so much..
I appreciate your content and will continue to watch and learn all that you teach.
If you are ever in Georgetown, Texas, I'd love to make or buy dinner with my friends. We are studying religion and love your videos. We watch together and talk about religion. Thank you for your content and opening up the conversation of religion for all of us that have different views. You are a great Teacher.
Thank you!
Would be interesting for you to look into the New rise of Norse faith in the modern-day world amongst young Polytheists, especially those in Scandinavia and parts of America.
Mostly just larping edgelords rebelling against Christianity. Hardly worth taking seriously
You're right this would be fascinating, it's amazes me the spectrum of practicioners. You can get like peace loving hippie types and then also guys like Varg Vikernes ( Far right nutbag )
I would strongly recommend the Nordic Animism channel if you're interested on a modern day perspective on Norse faith
@@pebystrollvarg isn’t a real heathen as far as I’m aware.
@@Astavyastataa oh I easily could be be wrong I know nothing about neo paganism
Filip is like the bards of old, bringing us stories from the past to deliver knowledge. A true Odin, my friend.
It makes sense that the Sami, as "outsiders" to the Norse culture, would be associated with a more mystical practice. The pattern of going to the fringes of society for divination and maybe esoteric knowledge is familiar to those who know Indian folk religion. I've seen people do divination after being possessed by a deity (gramadevta or kuldevta, not the more familiar general deities of Hinduism), often triggered by music and ritual.
T(S)amil India K(S)ami Japan Samichlausen like Santa Claus in Switzerland. Or Sama the Sungott of Mesopot(s)amia. SamAria First capital city from Israel.. Amanita Samanita Nirvana Samsara Saaremaa wich belongs to the Sami or Inari on the north pole and Inari the foxgod of Japan.. I think the Sami are the creators of the most civilization in Eurasia the past 10.000 of years
But they are is in fact called Tamil and kami, Paul, there never have been an s there.
During lockdown in 2020 I had plenty of time to read various books on this topic. One book pointed out that, 'even if Norse Paganism was written down at the time and the faith continued, it would still be different today.' Culture and religious practices change over time to suit the difference in environment and population. Change is a natural part of life, still though....as a follower of similar beliefs it feels like we're missing something.
Over the past year I've been exploring Norse religion in my own personal practice and belief, and your videos on the subject have been invaluable in providing historical context and understanding to my studies. And even outside of your discussions on this particular paradigm, I've been a fan of your videos in general for several years now. Thank you for the consistently insightful and thoughtful dives into the religions and spiritualities of the world you so generously share. 🙂💚
i got a question. why are you exploring norse religion? is it just for fun due to its history and practices? or what, I really wanna know
IDK about them but for me it makes more sense than monotheism. I prefer the more nature based religions and find polytheism more true to my soul.
@@Slifer-yq8ep with all due respect. i want to know about him not you
@@lookawayorneverlookagain apologies just thought I would add the discussion. You have a good day.
@@Slifer-yq8ep no
Since we've been talking a lot recently about Sweden and ibn arabi, it'd be interesting to see one on Ivan Aguéli. Keep up thr good work.
Lovely fireside chat.
Love the fireside vibe
Love the montages and the music. Beautiful
Another fascinating presentation. Thank you.
I don't live any near to the north and practices like this still exist in my society..... this is astonishing, thank you.
Thank you for creating the setting with a big fire. It suits the topic so much and really made the video more engaging. Good call. I love your content. Sorry I'm usually late. I sub to too many people to catch each on the first day they upload. And I don't get notifications regularly, even with my setting adjusted to "all." I hope you'll get to a million subs this year. You've earned it.
I always love a good ol video on Norse mythology. Keep up the good work!!
It’s folk magic that was practiced all throughout pagan beliefs… Seidr is magic based on weaving, pattern’s, repetition…. Galdr is magic based in sound and vibration, (throat) singing, Drums… still practiced as for example ‘kulNing’ but all rituals still exist in other forms and beliefs.
Seidr is a receiving magic and Galdr is a projecting magic… feminin/masculine… but that didn’t mean men and woman didn’t use both. In Vaeniric (Va=older) it was comon on both but later in Aesiric (AE=supreme) Seidr was frowned upon if men practiced Seidr.
Thank you for this video. I know very little about the actual practices in Norse religion so it's always interesting to learn more.
Thanks for this video ❤
Oh, I would love to see an episode about Helen of the Ways the "Deermother", who is in all likelihood connecting old Nordic traditions with the ancient British religious cults.
But most of all: Thank you for the good content! 🙏
Just finished a course on norse religion at SU. Very nice seeing I understood seidr correctly lol. Great video!
Love the ambience in the vid!
In modern Norse paganism, there's a distinction to be made between reconstructionist groups (e.g. Heathenry, Asatru, etc.), which tend to be more conservative and to heavily rely on the surviving textual and archaeological evidence to reconstruct ancient traditions insofar as that is possible, and reconstructionist-derived groups, which tend to be more liberal and which use the historical evidence as a starting point, but place more emphasis on personal gnosis from direct contact with the gods and spirits in altered states of consciousness. The nuances of the latter approach are described in the book Talking to the Spirits: Personal Gnosis in Pagan Religion.
Reconstructionist-derived traditions (e.g. the Northern Tradition) that use shamanistic practices to communicate with spirits are probably closer to how ancient Pagans actually practiced in my opinion, as there were no materialistic scholars or archaeologists in ancient times, but there were plenty of religious practitioners evolving various ways of practicing across different tribes and over thousands of years. The most skillful practitioners I've met learned a bit from scholarship and from other practitioners before them, but are largely spirit-taught. Spirit-taught shamans exist in other cultures such as Siberian shamanism as well.
Sorcery was viewed ambivalently in ancient Norse society (as evidenced, for example, by the burning of Gullveig in Völuspa), and was even more taboo for men than for women, but that doesn't mean there weren't any male practitioners of seidr, though we might speculate that male practitioners of seidr may have usually been homosexual or bisexual or trans, as Odin had to become a woman to learn seidr from Freyja. Also, women had more freedom in the Viking Age than in most of the neighboring cultures of the time, even if it was far from a feminist society.
Oh the weight that is required of belonging to a group...
Obviously ancient male norse priests and sorcerers weren´t "normal" by ancient standards, much less today's standards. If you're going to dive into a reconstructionist or otherwise modern pagan group expecting to be accepted for who you are, you have another thing coming. As in anything in this stupid life, either you fill the requirements or you don't, simple as that. Most likely the greatest shamans and seers of all times were total loners because true spirituality goes the other way, not This way of eating ,drinking ,fucking and procreating (and buying). None of that. None of that at all. Let the wise speak, the rest can be shut and go watch something else.
I prefer the term norse paganism or fornsed
Love your music!
Love this channel
Very interesting. You should do a video on ramalinga swamigal. He was an interesting saint in India. Supposedly he told his followers goodbye and locked himself in a room and vanished.
No mention of weaving or threads, which is interesting
It's in every ancient culture. You might enjoy The Weaving: Plants, Planets and People by Abruh Arneson.
Filip, I have a question about this subject that confounds me. Why do people insist on trying to tie Norse practices to (most probably) unrelated Sami and Siberian practices? What’s the obsession with attempting to shamanize the Norse, instead of attempting to fill in the gaps with what is known about more closely related Germanic cultures and peoples?
I recall having seen a very interesting video a couple months ago, where a historical music recreator discussed the influence of Siberian traditional music and clothing on the modern pop perception of traditional Norse music. Could it be that the same is happening here?
Sir Philip Thank you very much. Great job👏✌
Very interesting ❤
As always enjoy the subject and research that is done.
Great Video!
When is the music from this episode going to drop on Spotify? I love it!
Academic and artistic and cozy!
Super nice topic!
Would be great to see more content on Assassins Creed Mirage, maybe turn it into a mini series. Your in-depth reviews are wonderful.
Glad to know there is interest in it!
Beautiful sharing. Thank you.
"to tie/bind" is interesting because yoga means union (like yoking together), and religion also comes from the Latin religare, or "to bind". It's all talking about the same stuff. How do unify soul with body, world, and spirit.
I've been Heathen for 13 years, and i learned more about seidr today!
Love learning about the religion on my people. May the gods and goddess always smile upon you.
Enthusiasm ....As The Knowledge bought Forward goes Deeper...
The World and Its People's gets Smaller. Or is That Tighter Together
😊😊😊 Blessings and Gratitude
Great video, keep them coming!!!
Excellent review. Comparing Kevin Grey's mastering at both speeds was very informative. If someone else is picking up the tab, I'll go for the 45RPM every time.
Great stuff. ❤🎉❤
Fine presentation.
I've seen some evidence that fiddlers were definitely accompanying such trance rituals. Some other TH-cam who was looking into Norwegian folk fiddler music came back with claims that fiddlers used to be considered extremely important members of the community &, the Swedes have preserved in the Fossegrim myth a ritual for summoning an elf to teach such perfect fiddling that "the tables and chairs will begin to dance to your music." While that might just he figurative, it could also refer to some sort of drug enduced ritual.
Next time you want to talk about Seiðr you'll look at Annette Høst's work, yes, pretty please? Mostly in Danish, but there is a bit available in English, including a few videos here on YT.
Great video, more content on topics like this, please.
It’s important to note that most of the written sources date from a much later period so a lot of the associated modern lore is not necessarily grounded in the original tradition. For example Thor, as a god associated with thunder, is an association based on a single line of one story in the original eddas. The gods being associated with certain domains is a later phenomenon that really comes out of medieval Christian culture comparing and overlaying the tradition to/on Greek and middle eastern pantheons and mythology
Recently I found your channel love the vids
If it isn't much to ask Is it possible for you to make a video about alevism
Thank you
Odin was taught Seidr because he is also the god of magic and in old norse society in order to do magic and recieve wisdom from the divine you had to embody feminine energy. Odin possesses both masculine and feminine attributes that's why Freyja gave this knowledge to him. You just have to embrace feminine energy. Great video! I'm sorry for commenting too soon
Odin isn't a God "of" anything. He's just a God. You know who else has these attributes? Dionysus.
@@crushinnihilism In norse tradition he does reign over certain things and has mastery over them. He is the all father which is common knowledge but is also a master of magic and knowledge as well as war. Even in this video religion for breakfast says that Odin is the God of war and knowledge. You misunderstood what I said. I thought I was talking to someone who knew about Odin enough that I didn't have to go all into it. You thought you ate but you didn't.
@@crushinnihilism Also a lot of Gods have similar attributes like Shiva and Lucifer. They're not the same but still have mastery over these areas. Knowledge and gnosis is power
@desi9390 I'm a heathen. I hate whenever says they are a God OF X. The pagan God's don't fit that kind of modern category.
@@crushinnihilism okay I was just saying he has mastery over certain things. And you know they only say God of because of what you can ask them guidance for too right? They're not restricted by any means. Or just those things. My original comment only mentioned it. I was talking about how Odin knows about magic and magic in old norse society was acquired by embracing your femininity. And Odin as an all father is both masculine and feminine in nature even though it isn't as obvious as Baphomet. That's why Odin knows the runes and abundant knowledge. He was not afraid to be "effeminate" by surrending and sacrificing part of himself and his ego to ascend higher and gain knowledge. Hanging in the tree of life and his sacrifice of his eye is what I am referring to. I am on my own path but I do revere Odin very much. So please don't try to come at me because of one phrase I said. I don't care and tbh you're just nit picking. Because my whole comment wasn't even about what Odin is the god of. My comment was about his connection to magic. It's like you're surface level trying to pick my comment. I don't even know why cause I wasn't talking to you. And tbh Nietzsche didn't speak of nihilism to be a negative nancy and comment dumb shit that the commenter wasn't even talking about. Nietzsche wrote that because life is random and pointless we can make our own points and create our lives. Our own meaning. I hope you're doing that. I know Nietzsche isn't the only nihilist philosopher but he's very popular. The path less traveled has a more beautiful view. As above so below 🌟🥀🦉
Given the linguistic gulf between the Saami, native Siberians and the old Norse, I’m very surprised that the cultural practices of the former are felt to be appropriate models for the latter.
Filming next to a fire is really hard. Counterintuitively, fire doesn't provide great lighting. It give great ambient background noise though!
MAKE ONE ABOUT HIMALAYAN SHAMANISM. it's a mixture of Shakta+Shaiva Tantra and Shamanism
Hi Philipp, thank you for your videos. Please make a video about jacob böhme. It will be very interesting.
I'm impressed at the lack of people joking about the word "Volva".
In Icelandic (modern), it's völva. It's where we get the Icelandic word for computer (Tölva - number prophetess).
Rhorik, the founder of the first royal dynasty of the Rus had Y-chromosome haplogroup most common in northeast asia. There were cultural connections we can barely imagine
Great video
it would be thrilling if some day you could tell us about process theology, pretty please :)
It'd be cool to do an episode on OG Greek Bible... it will give way to the medicines used by them as well. 🎉🎉🎉
Trigger warning. Religion's origins are pretty horrible.
But binding spells needed to be.
Imagine a black claw entering the abyss of subconscious and calling to all those who would be at least apathetic to happenings in said texts... then closing the claw and dragging it into the light for the rest of us to be able to identify those who support the actions of the texts they are bound to.
Love playing Crusader Kings while watching that kind of video :)
Aeider - Cosmology. Frains. The elements in stars. Within the seider ❤❤❤ star cluster
Well, I need a large chair, some crash pads, a cool stick, some dudes to drum, like 4 oz of that kush, some shrooms, and a woman of wisdom. Just saying, a recreation of this practice may be a cool thing that could be achieved rather easily. The verbal components of the ritual present the most difficultly in reconstruction as we dont know the songs or chants used. But the material components of the ritual would not be difficult to acquire.
So "Sidur" is not related to the modern Swedish word "Seder"? They seem to have similar meanings.
I've been told that the Seith woman's 'staff' was often a distaff (for spinning thread). And that these are found in their graves. This wasn't mentioned in this video, so perhaps it's not true...?
Seidr is said to be the art of weaving fate. The Norns (Norse version of the Fates found in Greek mythology) weave the fate of each individual. Seidr is the art of looking at and changing that weave for the good of one's people. So a distaff makes a lot of sense.
You should make a video about Maria de Agreda as you’ve done a video on Eckhart.
The concept of seidr reminds me of Vajrayana Buddhism with Tibetan Lamas and Buddhist Yogis, it also reminds me of Hatha Yoga. Kind of like a spiritual alchemy practice, there’s also the element of divination in seidr, the association it has with women or effeminate men interestingly. Shamanism, hatha yoga, alchemy. Is kind of what seidr seems, it seems almost eastern at points. For some reason I was thinking of Islam when I started reading Price, but there was no concepts in Islam that I could relate seidr to whatsoever.
Seidr is a form of the basic spiritual practice in the Old Tradition. It is the bonding of the individual consciousness with Supreme Consciousness. This was called the Sacred Marriage. In Hinduism it's called Yoga ... also meaning to bind. Freya is Great Mother. She's the Supreme One the practitioner is uniting with. In reality the practice is to realize this Union already exists but we are ignorant of it. She is all of Nature, and we are all parts of Her. When Jesus says "My yoke is easy", it's this same union he is referring to, but he calls Great Mother 'Holy Spirit'. Realizing this Sacred Union was the purpose of the Mystery Cults, and is the Purpose of Life and all spiritual practice.
This mythology kept society together.
If Odin was meditating standing for 9 days standing like a tree, that is called in Taoism, Zang Zhuang. You can also check out the story of Lord Bahubali, he attained Moksha in such a way standing for a whole year, birds planted nests on his hair. The hesycasts also did meditation in different yogic positions, you talk about it, even with their hands over their heads, you show an image in your video of a man standing with two men holding him. That position is to open the head chakra, the arms for what looks like an eye, the third eye. Standing for long periods of time was also part of their practice. Abba Bessarion surrounded himself with thorns and cactus for 40 days and 40 nights. All those are considered mystics. Odin was an enlightend one, like Buddha. The Vulvas (beautiful name) also did this long meditations, you talk about her sitting on her throne for 9 days, before attaining shamadi. That is also known as zazen. Milarepa I think sat infront of the wall in hes cave for 11 years... Thank you very much for the video and the music. I have interesting information about the celtíberos and tartessos, I´m finding out now, here in Iberia, they were first cousins with Odin and Vulva!
@@yosoyyohoy cultural appropriation zzzzzzzz
Odin isnt some monk
@@drachenfeIsmore akin to syncretism
Appropriation is only when respect is not shown
And in many ways does Woden not portray aspects of a monk?
@@Dovahkiin0117 If wearing robes and reciting poems makes one a "monk" then call Hugh Hefner the Buddha.
@@drachenfeIs to be in a cave or the forest there is no need to be a monk, quite the contrary. I´m just saying that the practice of meditation in different possitions, sitting, standing, etc. is universal, used by all cultures to attain shamadi. And also with the use of drugs combined in this case, and also many others. We are human, please, different drops, same ocean.
@@drachenfeIs cultural appropriation is the history of humanity, zzzzzzzzz
To tie/to bind means yoga. Religare in Latin.
Wrong. Yoga means unity, assimilation of everything..Binding and tying means coercion.,i.e., black magick.
@@gnomikon7836 you're right
It's great that Filip mentions Neil Price's book in his bibliography. Anyone interested in actual archaeological findings and the limits of available source material in the context of Seidhr should absolutely get this book:
Price, Neil (2019). "The Viking Way: Magic and Mind in Late Iron Age Scandinavia". Oxbow Books; 2nd ed. edition.
Kanalınizdaki konulara merakım var, ancak ne sizin ne de size benzer kanalların Türkçe altyazısı yok. Bu çok üzücü, Türkçe altyazılı dinleyerek İngilizceyi daha iyi anlayabilirdim. Birçok dil için altyazı var ama Türkçe yok😢
u are very very very smart
I have a question:
Learning about alle these religions didn't make you atheist or weakened your faith. If you are religious?
A few years ago he posted some Q&A, maybe he answered it there
He is a deist. And in theory, it shouldn't. My paganism hasn't weakened after studying christianity, islam and jew mysticism
Interestingly, the singular version of the name sounds similar to the medical name for a female body part.
What did the scholar Mircea Eliade say about this?
It have also strong connections tp spychedlöeliics. From just. SEIDER TREE. what I want say os. Seider tree is one of the magical union. That you get Special brev. Iowaska
Could you make a video about alevism please?
You're saying "divinize the future" but I think you mean "divine".
Divinize means to make divine.
Divine as a verb means to discover.
Can you get into Thor vs the world snake?
There is a slight irony in using the word "pantheon" to talk about the Norse gods. Mainly as the word is greek. Granted I get it. And there was speculation as to using the words Aesir and Vanir to describe their culmination of gods.
Well, there is a limit to how many terms we can import into English. Should we also use an indigenous-language term for the gods of Hinduism, another one for the Yoruba deities (oops, that is a Latin term), etc? In fact, can we even use the word "god" for religions of non-Germanic origin?
would be great to see a video on prophet Ahmad (as) and Ahmadiyyat.
Assalamualaikum akhi, can u talk to Christian Prince
Thor obviously likes this!
How does the word cider in English? It seems to be an extremely curious linguistic coincidence if nothing else
@@RichardChave-xl9yw English cider comes from latin sicera.
I’ve been playing Assassin’s Creed Valhalla and they had a Vólva but they also translated Seiðr as just magic and not a ritual. Seiðr is sort of just used broadly to describe any type of magic whether that be good or bad. I know we are working with limited information, but I wish they used the word less broadly.
14:43 dude, is that why the women's genitals are called "vulva" aka the "staff bearer"? I looked up the etymology of this word, it meant wrapper and here in this Norse mythology it means "staff bearer", and I am sure everyone knows which "staff" I'm talking about here. I'm sorry but this whole naming is very... misogynistic. Is that how you identify the woman....
Kommer ordet "sedvane" fra "seiðr"?
Nej.
Filip, you being Swedish, you had no time to go to Norway? in Innland Norway many had a grandmother who had some connection to this. Into even modern times. This is strange to me, that you chose not to do.
That said nothing was "Ergi", before the great return. Which was the start of the so-called "warrior-tribe"-culture.
So it was an Oracle. Part of the ancient mystery religions. Ask Dr Ammon Hillman about it. He'll tell you what the staff is for lol
The concepts described here can be extrapolated to include much more modern concepts of Witchcraft (minus the Christian stigma / connotations) and Pagan Gaia worshippers which are all related to ancient fertility rites, with sex rituals playing a big role. Shamanic drumming and trance states are intrinsic Seidr rituals, and it's not hard to imagine how the War centric PIE people who worshipped Thunder Gods would be intrigued by these foreign concepts, and thus integrated Freya, who famously practiced Seidr, as a consort / companion to their native deity Wotan. Once the two cultures had become more widely integrated over generations, and people were converted slowly to this new belief, the original Pagan rituals of the farmers were slowly displaced with only traces being left. But as one tries to untangle these Threads across the World Map and over time, similar practices can be found in Eastern, Middle-Eastern or even Asian cultures, which all share symbolism that would be identified with classical interpretations of Witchcraft, and Pagan Fertility rites, but there's an entire sphere of Spirituality that has historically been unavailable to Men, except when they choose to indulge a Woman, and only then, together, can they explore this new Spiritual Space that's now available. Very interesting stuff really...
@@ZKBruhman "war centric PIE"
ahistoric take, IE speakers war as much as Sino-tibetan speakers as much as afro-semitic speakers.
Calling Odin a PIE god is pure anachronism.
That's what I've found in my studies on Eastern religions. You have the southern and east Indian villages that worshipped a favorite goddess as the personification of Mother Nature (Prakriti). All of whom are incarnations of Parvati/Durga/Kali. There are also worshippers of Shiva, but Shakti is always there beside him. Shaivites and Shaktas understand the need for balance between the masculine and the feminine. Then Hinduism came from the north, and things got a bit complicated. Shaktism survived, but in many areas was made subservient to Vishnu (as you see with Lakshmi rubbing his feet). But many villages have kept their goddess worship going strong. Each goddess has her beautiful side and her terrifying side. Because Nature is beautiful AND terrifying. Modern society has chosen to forget that, and now She is fighting back.
Needing to categorize if it's mysticism or shamanism is meaningless at the shores of experience
Whatever you see is a projection
As a practitioner of magic, Odin was view as less than manly. ergi.... as with Loki's insult