Lenovo ThinkPad X200T: Touch Computing of a Decade Past
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In this Holiday episode we take a look at a X200T "running" on Windows 10. While the hardware is still a performer, depending on the OS you are running, it appears to be one not free of challenges.
Have a story of running one of these? Do you know some of the limitations or how to overcome them? Please post in the comments below!
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I have 4 X200T and they work perfect with Windows 10. Just go to: support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds012808 and download the Lenovo System Tools. It will update everything, even the Bios. It will work perfect with Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1 and even Windows Server 2012R2 and you can use Hyper-V to virtualize. Kali Linux works perfect and the special buttons will work also. The docking station for the X200T makes this little laptop perfect!
Thanks for the information. Since this is a loaner machine I'm not comfortable updating the BIOS without consent of the owner. But this is great information for anyone owning them.
Thanks for the info, as I've been looking for one to add to my Thinkpad collection, and good to know they work well with Linux. Nothing against Kali, but I'm, a Mint fan myself as it just works, and yes I've used many others over the years but always end up back on Mint Mate, as it just works for me.
thankyou
i am thinking to getting this machine for around $150, is it worth it? i could upgrade the ram and ssd by myself.
Not too shabby. An SSD will do it wonders.
this may be the most charming tech video intro i've ever seen.
also, good review!
Thanks! Much appreciated.
For those who care, here is my experience running Gentoo linux on it. The Wacom penabled touchscreen driver for Linux w8001 works without any issues (duh). The touch screen is serial (so just run the inputattach command with the proper options and your beautiful touchscreen is up and running). You have to set up the button actions (like flip screen, etc) but it isn't too difficult because Linux just treats them like any regular button. You can force the pen input to flip with the screen by using a transformation matrix in x11 (just have it run whenever you flip the screen). So overall the set up experience is easy as 1 2 3. :)
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thanks so much! This info was very helpful in regards to my list of future purchases ;)
Woo!
That's the exact info i was looking for. Does distri matter? I'm looking at linux mint
Mint is Ubuntu based and is pretty safe compatibility wise.
You seriously do deserve more subscribers! You make so many great Lenovo videos it has helped immensely with building my collection and resolving issues 👍
Thanks so much for the kind words of encouragement Roberto. I'm glad I'm able to help in your efforts. Tell your friends to stop by and say hello.
Beautiful machine! SO MANY BUTTONS!
If the channel ever reached meme status, I'm in trouble.
Great computer which I bought used in 2011. Currently I'm using mine with a firewire express card to run a Nikon Coolscan 4000 (35mm film scanner). Robust. I had three spillages with it including beer at a house party when I was at university, it's been through airplane check in multiple times and has had two keyboard replacements and it's still working flawlessly. Even the thermal compound seems to be holding up all these years later! Incredibly robust machine! Have a great Chirstmas!
Haha, what a great story. Glad to hear it's going strong. Have a great Christmas too.
Great video on such an awesome looking Thinkpad, and will be keeping my eyes open for one to add to my slowly growing ThinkPad collection. Hope you, and yours are having a very Merry Christmas.
Cheers! Let me know what you find in terms of specs.
niiiice! i really like these thinkpad videos, great quality! you are very talented!
Thank you! I'm very fortunate to feature so many of them. I wonder what I'll do when my supplier runs out...
this thing flies with windows 7, it also supports 8GB ram after a bios update. I bought one online on January, a top of the line x200t w/ an SL9600, multitouch with built in 3G modem and usb3 expresscard but strangely no webcam. Just shove an SSD there and this machine will cope up with any core i3 laptop being sold now.
Sounds about right. So long as Windows 7 does what you need.
I have one x200t and got it 2 years ago in a good condition. Updated to a SSD drive with an INTEL 240GB, 8GB ram and a base for X200 systems with a DVD drive and a HDD tray to switch between a second hdd or the DVD player. The battery is now 1 year old because i had to buy an original new one. The housing was a bit dirty and after cleaning really all the plastic view was a bit old. Because i'm very familiar with chemical things i build myself a special plastic cleaner and YOUNGER Age Cleaner. It's a special mix and after i used it it looks right out of the box. It can run on gentoo linux, debian, Windows 7 or 10. Windows 10 runs 100% ok with no issues at all.When i got it, updated it and used for around 4 weeks it is a feeling which is better than s*x, haha. It is my coding machine and i can around the house with it to control my decentral I/O's from my PLC system which do the whole home automation. One last update from last week: i got the little special wire which is copnnected on one side at the pen and on the other side on the Laptop. Found a shop who sold that part out. 3 peaces in one original package for around $5. Now it is complete.
An additional update: ... there is a mSata ExpressCard to NVMe Adapter. Looks right wthat we need to mod our X230T a bit more.
Link: thinkmods.store/
That's awesome. Thanks for sharing your restoration journey.
Reply to myself. Because i use IBM from up the beginning of the PC area and Lenovo sinds the day Lenovo bougth parts from IBM. All my hardware is IBM and/or Lenovo based and it is a lot. Servers, NAS, Desktops, Laptops, Monitors and the LT1425 USB monitors, webcams and so on. Yeah i'm totally crazy in this.
You're in good company, I have an old IBM server running in my basement.
I have been waiting for this video and now actually seeing this maching I'm "fangirl-ing", just look at that giant square with all the buttons and that latch, omg that's beautiful; I will definetly have to get one of these for myself. In later 2-in-1s they got rid of the latch and replaced the system with magnets and I have to say from a practical standpoint it is much better but again that latch is just warming my hearth. Thank you for the video and merry christmass!
Haha, glad you enjoyed it. If I get any more features working while it's on loan I'll let you know. A slightly newer version would also be a contender as I think multi touch became standard later.
@@LaptopRetrospective Lenovo has a diagnostics software that will automaticly check and install what software you are missing called "ThinkVantage System Update" you could try that but first things first get rid of Win 10, it just refuses to work with anything and even on later tablets it just makes the experience a nightmare (on multi touch screens it even limits you to 2 inputs even if you devices is capable of handling up to 5 or 8), I would advise the original operating system it came with or at max. a win 7.
Yeah, I figured Windows 10 is the culprit. It's a loaner so that will be a problem for the original owner.
@@LaptopRetrospective Just swap out the hdd if you have one that's not used, but do not forget to put back the original
I might do, we shall see what time brings my way.
How I love this antique machine.. everything is replaceable..n u can get it everywhere around the globe
It's a beautiful piece of technology. :) And the comment is coming from my X61s running Ubuntu MATE 18.04.
Nice, what specs?
@@LaptopRetrospective - the low end L7300 @ 1.4 GHZ and 3 GB of DDR2, that I can't find the time to upgrade to 4. It's great for distraction-free work.
Awesome video bro❤🎄
Glad you enjoyed it! Happy holidays.
I have this and I love it so much ❤️
It's pretty awesome.
Greeting's from poland. Also happy Xmas! i just got ThinkPad x230 from xmas ;DD
Thank you! What specs does it have? What a great gift!
@@LaptopRetrospective hehe Thank. ;)
It has i5-3320M 2.6-3.3Ghz, Intel 4000HD graphic and 8gb ram and it hold 3 hour battery. Im just first fan of thinkpad ;p
Have fun with it :D nice Laptop
@@thorben3625 Thanks! I really enjoy it laptop. ^^
Nice model!
I’ve had this tablet for 13 years and am running Mint Mate. So much snappier than Win 10. All pen/tablet functions work perfectly.
That's awesome it's got so much use.
the tablet buttons don't work for me on Mint Mate. Do you know how can I make them work?
Today I scored 1 X200T for next to nothing. Apart from sticky body and cracked palmrest, all working fine and well. Will start ordering parts to restore it back to factory condition. This beauty will now sit next to my X220T and X61T.
Most excellent. Good luck with your project.
Great!
Hope you enjoy it when it goes live! Maybe I'll see you in the chat?
The lenovo x200 uses a shorter length battery from the X200T..... The X200T does use the same battery as the X201T.... I would know, I have the X200, X200 Tablet and the X201 Tablet.... The little expansion slot is for turbo ram.... Thw motherboard from the x200 and x200T are different but i found my x200 has all the expansion slots filled while the turbo ram is not present in the X200T... I use the x200 as a retro gaming laptop, while the X200T is used for graphics design, gimp, 3d model sculpting via zbrush, mudbox brilliant laptops, im a lenovo thinkpad fan for life...
I owned one of these for years. Good little machine, even if it was heavy, chunky, and didn't have the best battery life. Worked great with 8, 7, and especially Vista. 8.1 and 10 might be fine too, but the screen rotation bug looks like it might come into play.
Needs a bit of work but you can sort out screen rotation. Fun piece of kit.
I got the extended battery and it runs a full workday.
I have the multitouch version! However, my bezel isn't flush like yours, gotta admit it looked modern with flush bezel.
Another thing to note is that the multitouch is not "multi finger touch", it just mean that u can use pen or finger for touching purposes. And the finger touch is not capacitive, it's resistive, so u need to press quite hard or use finger nails for it to register. U won't miss much actually so better use the one with pen only if it's cheaper.
Yes that's correct. I believe it supports up to five points of contact at once.
Recently bought X200t, mine has equipped with core2duo sl9300, 2 gigs ddr3 ram, 64gb ssd, windows 7.
Not bad. Room to grow.
Yo whats uppp? haha I've commented and you've always replied. Here's a thank you for all your videos 😀 I was wondering if you've seen Thinkpad prices going up? The ones in good to great condition are getting pretty hard to find imo.
Thanks so much for your kind contribution, both financial and through your comments. There are still good deals to be had, every few years we need to shift where we look. T60 to T430 to T450 to T480 and now we will see what comes next as the fan favourites.
@@LaptopRetrospective For sure! I'm looking at T430s rn I was also wondering, what's your all-time favorite Thinkpad? 🤔
I think my favourite changes. I really like my daily driver, the X1 Nano G1 but I'm looking forward to what I'll get after. I want a better web camera for example. Then there are several I've got a soft spot for due to their stories, design or features.
So many buttons, Its like a Aeroplane Cockpit *LOL*
Would need some toggle switches to complete the look.
Interesting Device. Only have a X220 (for around two years) and now got me an T440s (i7,12GB RAM, Touch, 256GB SSD) and both are awesome devices. Thinkpads do have a really good build quality.
But for the T440s i need to get me a new internal battery or better the bigger external one
Nice hardware you got there! Have you modded the x220?
@@LaptopRetrospective not now but i will do it in the near Future :D
Keep me posted what you decide to do.
@@LaptopRetrospective i will. I dont know if you said something about it before, but how many Laptops or pcs you have ^^
I should count them sometime...
I would like to point out that the pen is actually pressure sensitive (as expected :P ). I have tried it and it works in GIMP.
I'd believe it but driver issues are fun with older hardware.
Does the pen work in other devices? Ex: acer swift or spin?
Not sure what kind of pen they use.
How good is it in Gimp? I have always wanted a tablet thinkpad
Posting this from X220T with i7, greetings from 🇷🇺. Merry christmas.
Cheers! Thank you.
@@LaptopRetrospective and I just installed 250 GB 860 EVO mSATA SSD inside, hopefully it's good
Should be. Nice upgrade.
hi ok ubuntu 16.4 worked straight out the box screen buttons and all....windiws 10 was more of a problemi went to (lenovo x220 tablet drivers ) the top result in google took me straight to all my drivers but no matter how i tried i cud not get the screen buttons to work..the new linux MATTE all buttons worked no problems and i found that i have the equv 4k display even tho its 1365x 768 on windows hmmm strange wish i had ubuntu skalling on windows i suppose i got lucky came with ips screen from ebay....great vid by the way
Cheers, glad you enjoyed the video and had some success to share.
I think that extra mini-PCIe slot is for Intel Turbo Memory.
For drawing and light games.
Should I get
This x220t
X260 w wacom pen
X yoga 1st gen
Yoga 12
Or newer yoga 370?
Define light games? What's the most demanding one you intend to play and what are the system requirements for it?
@@LaptopRetrospective wizard 101 and maybe world of Warcraft. www.wizard101.com/game/system-requirements
The onboard graphics isn an intel hd, has 64mb dedicated graphics ram, the more ram you put in tge less strain the gpu will be put under.... It does have its limitations as it is a first generation i7 you xan play most games that came out around the launch date and before... Hope this helps the people searching for the answer
This machine is harder to get working on Windows than on Linux. Just saying...
That isn't surprising. Linux is awesome like that.
Is it still value for money to buy an X220t or X230t today? Do you have any tips and recommendations for looking for and buying used/refurbished units? Been looking for these at Facebook Marketplace (local listings in the Philippines, where I live) and on eBay (US listings). Thanks! Keep up the good work on your channel
Hard to say. I haven't handled those units yet, but hopefully they're a little easier to get running on a modern OS than the X200T.
I think so. I bought an x230T about a year ago because I was tired of dealing with Apple products. I would definitely look for i7-i5 cpu versions. I had bought it to basically take with me everywhere and with 16MB of ram and SSD drives it is a terrific small Laptop. I can pretty much do anything I need, writing, spreadsheets, emails, watching video content, and I'm even able to blow stuff up in World of Warships!
I've been very happy with my purchase. I'm thinking of buying a 15" Thinkpad or at least the dock so I can attach a larger monitor.
The docks are lots of fun.
Not sure what drivers you installed, but I recommend using Lenovo System Update, and install everything that's missing. Could be a windows 10 issue though, everything works fine for me on Windows 7. As far as linux goes with rotation, you have to make an executable script, then use xbindkeys to assign the rotation/stylus orientation script to the physical button. (At least for my distribution). Here's the Lenovo System Update: support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds012808
Edit: Also, Some models do have accelerometers, for not only orientation of the screen, but for hard drive protection in case the laptop falls it will shut down a HDD.
Lenovo System Update doesn't detect any packages to update or install, at least not on Windows 10.
@@LaptopRetrospective That sucks. It's got to be a Windows 10 issue then. Try installing Hard Drive Active Protection System (HDAPS), for the x200t. www.notebook-driver.com/thinkpad-driver-id-6377/ and hope that the accelerometer will detect auto rotate. Thing is, this is for Win Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1. There is one for Windows 10 on lenovo's website, but it's not for the x200t.
Yeah I'd definitely go deeper if it wasn't a loaner, but good information!
et dire que tout ses vieux lenovo sont en fait des anciens ibm ,les derniers concu en france avant rachat.. l'ergonomie et la solidité pour pc professionel .
I recently acquired one of these but had to order a HDD mounting kit for it seems a nice bit of kit, that expansion port might be the intel HDD boost module port. I believe that they can have upto a 2GB module for this
Interesting. Any documentation on this module?
I read about it on Thinkwiki
Gotcha. Thanks.
Is it able to run Windows x64 bit? It's important because I need it to run a x64bit only program. Thank you in advance.
Yep.
This is an impressive machine, despite its age it has a X64 bit processor and handles windows 10 64bit like a champ.... Just throw in x2 4gb 1333mhz ram and your all set
Can I ask as you're somewhat of a Thinkpad collector do these the X200T use the same battery as the X200 (none tablet)?
Tablet battery is unique.
cheers
No problem. X200 and 201 I do know share the same battery. T series are unique though due to the chassis cut outs being different.
@@LaptopRetrospective I've recently acquired a t41 that I'm planning to run win98se for some old games, however WiFi drivers are not compatible from Lenovo and I have a random usb device that I can't find a driver
Hmmm. Not much experience with those. I'd be tempted to run a Linux live CD to see if the card is behaving properly.
So i bought a x200t at savers it was only 5 bucks with all the accessories they thought it was a Thinkpad bag because the laptop was concealed so o bought it and i want the fingerprint working on it can any one help me
Driver update and diagnostic tools first. Nice find btw.
et dire que tout ses lenovo sont les derniers ibm qui ont ete concus en france avant rachat d'ibm..
I’m considering selling my shitty iPad Air 2 for this, but as it would be used as a tablet (I have a T420 as my main laptop) it has to run Android. Does anyone know how Android runs on this?
Thanks in advance.
You'd need to use an emulator of sorts. That's as much as I know.
I know this is a bit late but look up Android x86. It is a build of Android for standard PCs. It should work.
Great video those are war machines :) i have 1 x200T core2duo 1 x201T i7 and 1 T420 i5 and they are still awesome in 2019
all 3 with ssd and win10 64 bit and 8gb Thinkpads are really nice machines :)
everything works all we need to do after windows 10 install is download the tablet buttons drivers for tablet buttons and screen rotation i think its the win7 drivers that works in win10
Glad you got it all working.
Pls give it to meehhhh