@@SingularNinjular that’s false tho. He only outlawed new slaves coming into Canada. He still kept existing slaves in bondage. Not to mention he fought a slave uprising in Haiti.
@@eldritchpumpkinghost2968 Yes, he wasn't an iron-fisted dictator, and couldn't just give people who disagreed with him the choice between acquiescence and a one-way trip to a firing range. And Haiti? The revolt didn't happen in a vacuum. Britain and France were at war, and Simcoe was a soldier. Soldiers fight whoever they're told to fight. Sorry, but expecting someone of his rank to dichotomise a situation as complex as the ones surrounding the Haitian Revolution and the abolition of slavery in the late 18th century into good vs bad just isn't reasonable. To us, it seems simple. But we weren't alive then. We don't have to choose.
@@eldritchpumpkinghost2968 The Act Against Slavery outlawed slavery outright in Upper Canada. It was the British Empire and the United States that merely outlawed new slaves. Upper Canada was the first place in the British Empire to completely outlaw slavery. As for his role in the Haitian Revolution, Simcoe was not in command of the operation. He was merely assigned as a senior officer to the British *invasion* of Haiti. The invasion had been done as part of the Wars of the First Coalition against the French Republic. In effect, the war was a British, Austrian and Prussian intervention in a French civil war between the Ancien Regime and the French Republic. The invasion of Haiti was meant to deny the French Republic its colonies in the West Indies, but the situated complicated by the ongoing Haitian Revolution. The reality was, to secure Haiti, the British needed the support of Ancien-Regime leaning slaveholders, which meant fighting the Haitian rebels often times. The Haitian Revolution itself is an extremely complicated microcosm of the French Revolutionary period with ever shifting allegiances between the different factions. All of which was out of Simcoe's hands. The man was a soldier, and that meant he had orders. While he personally found slavery to be reprehensible, the realities of fighting a larger war against the French Republic necessitated, *temporarily I might add*, supporting slave holders fight against their slaves.
Now, I'm not exactly sure how John G. Simcoe actually played things, but this looks very, very Sun Tzu-ish the way he gets their attention and takes command.
Simcoe was a little harsh though and he liked fighting and he was not always bad but they made him where he had problems and sometimes that caused him to be like that because he saw and understood the toughness in life and it made him harsh
John Graves Simcoe is a good fighter and he loved fighting which in some situations is good but the problem with him is he was too tough and he was harsh very quickly and he would do it very easily.
I think John Simcoe is cool and I love the way the action is because I love rough housing and I like fighting and I like doing it though even though it is not good. I enjoy it because I can be a good fighter and fight someday if I really wanted to do it.
0:56 "ooooh scalps" would've have been more intimidating if he'd shown something more "original" the UK wasn't found empty and sometime later there totally wasn't a war that last 7 years...
Just don't know why they didn't shoot Simcoe on the spot. He's goaded and killed a man, been unnecessarily cruel, and he's insulted the entire unit. I'd have shot him, made a very short speech about the loss of a comrade (even though I didn't like him) and split up Simcoe's gear with the guys. There was the 'fog of war' back then and even Simcoe suggests to those who were loyal to him, that they ''shed their uniforms, claim capture and duress, and melt back into the Continental Army ASAP." -his ''quality of mercy'' on display but only at the bitter end of his command. *AND I'd have followed the black guy into battle, he seemed honest, tough and capable.
One guy thought he was in charge and was throwing his weight around; the other guy had just been appointed. The new Alpha wolf killed the old Alpha and took command of the pack - welcome to the way things work in nature with packs of wolves and monkeys - humans are not much different.
"One more for your collection" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And he even said thank you.
Honestly no one thought of jus shooting Simcoe
Man, what a commander Simcoe is. This scene is so great
The look on their faces when he started disarming 😂
They wanted to see if he was really about it or not
A soft-spoken "Fall In" never sounded more threatening.
Absolutely.
When new teacher arrives to high school and shows how the whole year will be:
imagine being given your own scalp for your collection lol.
What a flex
Simcoe is essentially the embodiment of the real British Empire.
In real life, he was staunchly opposed to slavery, so I suppose you're not a hundred percent wrong.
I would’ve loved to give that man a whoopin.
@@SingularNinjular that’s false tho. He only outlawed new slaves coming into Canada. He still kept existing slaves in bondage. Not to mention he fought a slave uprising in Haiti.
@@eldritchpumpkinghost2968 Yes, he wasn't an iron-fisted dictator, and couldn't just give people who disagreed with him the choice between acquiescence and a one-way trip to a firing range.
And Haiti? The revolt didn't happen in a vacuum. Britain and France were at war, and Simcoe was a soldier. Soldiers fight whoever they're told to fight. Sorry, but expecting someone of his rank to dichotomise a situation as complex as the ones surrounding the Haitian Revolution and the abolition of slavery in the late 18th century into good vs bad just isn't reasonable.
To us, it seems simple. But we weren't alive then. We don't have to choose.
@@eldritchpumpkinghost2968 The Act Against Slavery outlawed slavery outright in Upper Canada.
It was the British Empire and the United States that merely outlawed new slaves. Upper Canada was the first place in the British Empire to completely outlaw slavery.
As for his role in the Haitian Revolution, Simcoe was not in command of the operation. He was merely assigned as a senior officer to the British *invasion* of Haiti. The invasion had been done as part of the Wars of the First Coalition against the French Republic. In effect, the war was a British, Austrian and Prussian intervention in a French civil war between the Ancien Regime and the French Republic. The invasion of Haiti was meant to deny the French Republic its colonies in the West Indies, but the situated complicated by the ongoing Haitian Revolution.
The reality was, to secure Haiti, the British needed the support of Ancien-Regime leaning slaveholders, which meant fighting the Haitian rebels often times. The Haitian Revolution itself is an extremely complicated microcosm of the French Revolutionary period with ever shifting allegiances between the different factions. All of which was out of Simcoe's hands. The man was a soldier, and that meant he had orders. While he personally found slavery to be reprehensible, the realities of fighting a larger war against the French Republic necessitated, *temporarily I might add*, supporting slave holders fight against their slaves.
This might be the greatest Flex ever put to screen...
Simcoe was such a bad ass villain. Foppish and deadly.
Facts
“My hope of course.. is that our lessons won’t have to be repeated… now fall in.”’
Simcoe is the definition of "speak softly and carry a big stick"
Now, I'm not exactly sure how John G. Simcoe actually played things, but this looks very, very Sun Tzu-ish the way he gets their attention and takes command.
The real Simcoe was tough, but more by the book. Post War he led a band of Loyalists to settle in Canada. By all accounts a decent fair leader.
He was also an early abolitionist. He actually got slavery outlawed in Upper Canada in 1793.
Simcoe was a little harsh though and he liked fighting and he was not always bad but they made him where he had problems and sometimes that caused him to be like that because he saw and understood the toughness in life and it made him harsh
True Mark of leadership, no bullshit
His "Thank You" says it all.
he just left his sword and knife on the ground
I confess I'm as big a fan of fantastic absurd bad-assery as the next man, and this is a masterpiece of the genre.
Well put, you bastard. Well put.
Simcoe is reality. An officer that always projects a gentleman and in a blink can be an all out savage. Always aiming to win the little victories
He was never really a gentleman lol
I just noticed that he tossed his hat before they fully showed any aggression. He was prepared for the inevitable before they were even ready for it.
Best scene in the whole franchise
Professionals have STANDARDS 3:19
Never a bad time for good manners they say.
"...a fop in silly togs." 😂
Simecoe knew they were silly too but didnt let it get under his skin.
@@randomguy-xp7seI think their outfits actually looked pretty cool aside from the hats
This guy was a supernatural character but I can not for life of me figure out who he was
Simcoe! Baddest Ranger from the UK
That's one way to make a first impression
Simcoe was so badass
John Graves Simcoe is a good fighter and he loved fighting which in some situations is good but the problem with him is he was too tough and he was harsh very quickly and he would do it very easily.
Simcoe has got to be my favorite villain
He had to get his point across.
Great scene.
3:11
Point made Captain Simcoe
Thank you
I look up to this guy.
I think John Simcoe is cool and I love the way the action is because I love rough housing and I like fighting and I like doing it though even though it is not good. I enjoy it because I can be a good fighter and fight someday if I really wanted to do it.
My only question is how the hell did he reach for a gun with the same arm Simcoe clearly broke/dislocated
0:56
"ooooh scalps" would've have been more intimidating if he'd shown something more "original" the UK wasn't found empty and sometime later there totally wasn't a war that last 7 years...
Say what you want about Simecoe. At least he took oppressing people seriously. Not like politicians today.
2:08
Akinballs and Awashole
0:45
Simcoe is the best
0:08
Just don't know why they didn't shoot Simcoe on the spot. He's goaded and killed a man, been unnecessarily cruel, and he's insulted the entire unit.
I'd have shot him, made a very short speech about the loss of a comrade (even though I didn't like him) and split up Simcoe's gear with the guys.
There was the 'fog of war' back then and even Simcoe suggests to those who were loyal to him, that they ''shed their uniforms, claim capture and duress, and melt back into the Continental Army ASAP." -his ''quality of mercy'' on display but only at the bitter end of his command.
*AND I'd have followed the black guy into battle, he seemed honest, tough and capable.
One guy thought he was in charge and was throwing his weight around; the other guy had just been appointed. The new Alpha wolf killed the old Alpha and took command of the pack - welcome to the way things work in nature with packs of wolves and monkeys - humans are not much different.