Watching From #Montreal it's Alright!!!!Born in 1982 i watch MJ live on Tv in Africa #Gabon when i was a Kid i Buy a lot of magazine... The 90's #Power Gary Payton get some of the best Nike Shoes💯
There's at least one moment like that in all BTM videos, I like the videos but dude needs an editor and speech coach. I'd do it for free but I don't think he'll offer.
He was so good? The man shot 26% from the field and took more free throws than the entire Sonics team. This was a time when all Jordan fans will and should look the other way.
i give Payton a lot of creidt for game 4 vs Jordan. but game 5 MJ played pretty good, and shot 50%(he didn't have a great 4th Q, but was finding guys open and they were missing). then game 6, the other guys on seattle played MJ more than Payton, so Gary can't get credit for this game. MJ was 3-4FG vs Payton(75%). he was 2-15 vs everyone else (plus doubles). so the others (mainly Hawkins) get more credit for this game. Gary did have good ball denial, so credit to him there. Jordan cooked them the first 3 games, and it was 3-0, that's a wrap, he played great to get them that 3-0 lead you're not coming back from, no way they're gonna lose at that point. so the Bulls got a little bored and didn't play as sharpe as needed the next 2 games. but in the end, MJ and the Bulls got the job done, and these bulls ended with the best regular season and playoffs record combined ever (87-13) 87%... the 2016 warriors finished a combined 88-18 (83%). that 87% win percentage will most likely never be broken
I like Jersey Hawkins too but GP was arguably the best defensive point guard to ever play so I have to give him most of the credit for slowing MJ down. They should have put Payton on him the entire time. He was an in your face defender.
i agree...the only "bad" game i think MJ had was Game 4. Game 5, MJ played really well and the highlights were crazy that game, Game 6 was pretty much a whole team effort. Game's 3 & 5 of this series was my favs
This was the height of my basketball fascination. I watched every minute of Sonics' basketball when they were televised. Kemp was my all time favorite and the Sonics were great.
The reason he said “I didn’t have a problem with the glove” is because when Payton played he was a leader and one of the best trash talkers of all time and mike saying it didn’t effect him
@@MDHDH-iy7nm You're the simp. I guess you didn't look at the other stats in this video where MJ consistently got the better of him? Even when Payton did how best, MJ still outscored him.
I disagree Gary Payton did one of the best jobs on Michael Jordan defensively, probably after Joe Dumars. And the 1996 NBA Finals was his worse statistically speaking.
@@shotguner4258 wait...u saying Joe Dumars was a clown because you Googled him?? Lol. If you saw him play dude was legit. Put some respect on his name.
I remember that series. And Jordan and Payton was banging!!! I wish they still let them play like that today. That's why I don't really watch today's basketball or respect it. Let the players dictate the physicality of the game for the most part and not the refs as you see today!
Great video...you should look to include shooting percentages as a way to further show if someone struggled in a game. For example, Game 1 Jordan shot 50% on 18 fga. Game 2 he shot 40% on 22 fga (not a great game despite finishing with 29). Game 3 just under 50% on 23 shots and 36 points (a classic MJ performance) Game 4 Jordan shot 32% on 19 shots to get his 23 points. Game 5 MJ was back to 50% on 22 shots but for the first time in the series shot less than 10 free throws so ended with only 26. Game 6 Jordan shot an abysmal 26% from the field on 19 shots for 22 points. These number confirm that there was a noticable effect of GP guarding MJ. Even when Jordan had a good shooting game against him such as in Game 5, Payton was able to keep him off the line and limit MJ's effectiveness.
Wrong. Gm 6 MJ was 3-4 vs Gary. This is why that Gary thing is blown way out of proportion. Look, if Karl and Gary had the way to stop MJ... To beat the bulls... Why did it never really work again? lmao Rematches: Mj 45 Mj 32/18 Mj 27 Mj 40 For a 3-1 record vs Gary. No problem
@@floydd4779 yeah I think you are slow. MJ had a bad shooting game vs the sonics in gm 3. So what? He had a bad shooting game vs the Knicks in game 4 and a bad shooting game vs the Magic in gm 2. He always had at least one or two bad games against top defensive teams IN THE MUCH TOUGHER DEFENSIVE ERA. MJ vs Payton Gm 5: 5/4 Gm 6: 3/4 So, Floyd Dumbbella, when Payton defended MJ WITHOUT HELP DEFENSE FROM KEMP, SHREMP OR BRICKOWSI, MJ is 8/16 or 50%. No problem with the Glove, Floyd D is for dumb!
MJ didnt lose finals games on purpose to extend a series thats utterly moronic stop being a puppet...Gary Payton did a great job on him you guys are being the definition of irrational idolators...
@@greenemonkey41 thats moronic and ive seen how u mj fans are if hed won the series ud be claiming some bs about mj getting screwed over or gpayton being dirty or having a stacked team...mj fans and mj himself consistently refuse to give mjs opponents credit where and when its due...payton did a great job on him, and mj didnt deserve that finals mvp trophy only got it so the league could push a fictitious narrative and sell more shoes and Gatorade..wanna call the glove the mitten?mj circa 1995-98 was more like fake jordan than air jordan...needed rodman and pippen to prop him up..
@@dp233332 that was jordan at old age. we'd love to see other players win championship at old age without help and to clarify only added RODMAN; Pippen was already in the team when he won 91,92 and 93. Kobe and Shaq at young age needed helped from Malone and Payton wanting to get a 2 3peat but they lost to the 2nd bad boys pistons. then Kobe again assembled his team with ODOM, GASOL and ARTEST and these 3 players were star players from different teams. then after that Lebron James follows Kobe's Recruit or Need a help to win championships join to Miami with Bosh and Wade. LOL and that was at a Young AGE.....
When you listed the Sonics roster you forgot to mention Sam "The Man" Perkins. In my opinion the first stretch five. He was deadly from the corner 3´s.
That's hilarious & awesome you said Gary Payton was born in "1986" then in college "in 1986" 🤣😂 But I LOVE the pause u did before introducing GP. That makes it look like I'm watching out of a VCR & recorded the game on VHS
The Glove was a pickpocket thief. Of course he caused some static to MJ. But MJ had an arsenal of moves, many were unguardable. Gary did his best against Mike. He didn't back down.
@@Mandingo391 definitely a problem Game 4: 23 points, 6-19 FGs (31.6%), 0-2 3-pointers, four turnovers • Game 5: 26 points, 11-22 FGs (50%), 0-4 3-pointers, two turnovers • Game 6: 22 points, 5-19 FGs (26.3%), 1-3 3-pointers (33.3%), five turnovers
@@jahleelx9270 why do y’all always just bring up that 3 game sample size ? They played 20+ times and jordan averaged 29.6/7.2/3.8 and 2.0 steals in those games man … stop the bs
Jordan dropped 45 points on Payton the year after the finals shooting 67% from the field. Why didn't you mention that? Gary was so embarrassed he refused to speak to the media after the game.
Hey Wasgood because that was *next year* and everyone knows Jordan can score. This vid was about Jordan blowing off Paytons abilities in the last Dance. And that Gary has indeed kept Jordan in check. Jordan just has too much pride to admit it.
@@dqreps Did you even watch the 96 finals? Payton had alot of help double teaming Jordan & the Sonics had the #2 defense in the league that year. The video shows how Payton was being trashed year after year by Jordan so was Gary a problem? NO the Sonics defense was
Always wanted this addressed, even before the documentary. Thumbs up for bringing it up. I also recall how dominant Kemp was when the Sonics had their backs against the wall.
Jordan was right. He didn't have a problem with Payton. They played a lot more than just that one Finals. They played 21 times, and Jordan averaged 29.6 vs Payton, with a high of 45. I would say that the evidence shows that those Finals games were more a function of Jordan simply not having as good a game than it was of Payton "stopping" him. Jordan wasn't "Jordan" that entire series, not just when Payton was on him. He never really went off.
@@lamefart Exactly. This is one of those "crowning achievements" for a player like Payton....but we forget, this isn't the only time they played, and MJ averaged basically 30 on him over all their meetings, including 40 and 45. When MJ had an off game, it was more a function of MJ just not being right than it was of his opponent's defense. If Payton really was a "Jordan stopper", MJ would have been held down consistently, but he wasn't.
@Free White and 21 He didn't slow him down, though. MJ had tendonitis and his father on his mind, and he wasn't all that great in the games before Gary was guarding him.
So basically Jordan outplayed him every game but 1.. Then you forgot about the 48 point game in the first game the next season.. All this time people been exaggerating that Payton could shut him down but obviously its just another lie
I think Jordan saying Payton was no problem was simply a reaction to what Payton said about Jordan. Payton claimed Stockton was harder to guard then Jordan and someone like Jordan will not take kindly to words like that. Salute to the goat MJ and the all star Gary. Gary, Shawn Kemp, Delef Shrimpf(however u say that name) and the rest of the squad did their things back in the day. Just wasn't enough for the Chicago bulls
I watched the whole series the sonics akways double team him ...every time he escape payton's defense they double team him up ....the sonics make jordan difficult to get the ball easily payton had a great job frustrating him to get the ball...
Thanks Sean for this video, this is one of my favourite as it's more talking about defense than offense. People just care about players shining offensively, but what I love the most is teams playing hard on defense. And come on, Gary Payton, people should talk more about him, he was not only one of the best point guards I've seen, but defensively he was probably the best one. If I could should choose all the best players on my team, he definitely would be one of them and I think I'd even pick him as my starting point guard because of his defense. Over Magic, John Stockton, Isiah, I'm a mad die hard Knicks 90's fan and I'd love to see guys giving all their best on defense as he was always doing. I loved them all but with Payton I'd be sure my backguard defense would be secured.
@jocriss oh u mean like letting their guard down because they pretty much see the series as over. Makes sense. Yeah championship teams tend to do that.
Hey Wasgood True lol. Gary did hold Jordan to scoring low 20’s in the last few games of the 96 finals. Gary was injured I believe and coach didn’t let him guarding Jordan. Jordan scorched the Sonics the previous three games (6 game series). But Coach decided to let Gary guard MJ the last three games. Gary kept him in check, well below Mikes season averages and Gary scored about the same as MJ.....low 20s. Not bad.
Old Gary Payton was the best defender of the league in the early 2000s in the era of Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, Allen Iverson, T-Mac, and Tim Duncan. 6"4 Gary Payton ( PG ) - 3x All-Defensive First Team ( 2000, 2001, 2002 ) 4x All-star ( 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 )
Kaizaro123 He laughed in Gary Payton’s face when he said what he said on the iPad as Jordan watched it. Not sure that’s exactly giving him props LOL. Jordan was a great winner but he was a very sore loser and hated to give anyone credit when he lost.
So I asked my old man about that series (he was around 19 years old or so at the time) and he said the story isn't quite what's being said here, and MJ did have off the court stuff that he was dealing with. My dad said the Glove was a great defender, but no one could ever hold MJ one on one!
I was 21 at the time. What “off the court” stuff was Jordan dealing with? Gambling was part of the issues with the first three-peat. No flu game. No nonsense. Jordan dominated the season and the Eastern Conference playoffs. So what suddenly happened “off the court” in the finals? Aside from Payton finally being given the primary defensive assignment on Jordan in game 4?
Old Gary Payton was the best defender of the league in the early 2000s in the era of Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson, Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan. Gary Payton - 3x All-Defensive First Team ( 2000, 2001, 2002 ) 4x All-star ( 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 )
I said this in another person's video and I'm going to say it again. I think he somewhat was but I believe Mike when he said he did have his father on his mind. So to prove it when they had the rematch during the regular season Jordan put up 45 on him and the Sonics and hit that half court buzzer beater right before the half just to prove his point.
I have never realized it before, but in retrospect I am amazed at how well MJ kept his cool and maintained his composure, especially in such big games where he was constantly being harassed and the opposing players were doing anything that they could to get inside of his head!! I would have to do some research, but to my knowledge MJ had never let said opposing players get to him and cause him to lose his composure and retaliate against those who would love to see him get tossed out of a big game. Furthermore I was 16 years old at the time of these NBA Finals, and the Bulls took home the championship, and in the end that is ALL that matters!!
Bulls took the championship becaus they had the better TEAM and could carry jordan when he played terrible. Payton wasn’t giving him cheap shots so why would jordan retaliate?! In retrospect Jordan talked more shit than anyone and is lucky he never got knocked out in a tougher 80’s era. Most bad things jordan did get swept under the rug.. especially the ones that show the league helping MJ. Like when he chased down Reggie over a light bump and poked and scratched his face and eyes and it was Reggie ejected and jordan finished the game on Reggie’s homecourt th-cam.com/video/y9NcLoN5WbU/w-d-xo.html
I loved Shawn Kemp and apprciated Payton as a duo. I was so excited that the Sonics actually made the finals,I always wondered what of Jordan wasn't there would they have won.
I grew up 5 blocks from Gary and went to school with him at Claremont and was friends with. Marti his body gaurd..Gary was always a cool cat... Floyd Mayweather Reminds me of him
You should also perhaps have mentioned that in their first meeting since the 1996 finals, Jordan scored 45 pts (19 of 28 from the field) [2nd Feb 1997]. Of course Payton caused MJ problems but I believe him when he said that he had other things on his mind (his father)...
@@bonehead4750 I appreciate that this is only a highlight video of the game I reference (th-cam.com/video/TuryGoKXT-Q/w-d-xo.html) but this probably explains why Payton wasn't guarding MJ much that night - he looks so overmatched in the points MJ did have against him...
So what are you going to say about game 6 where the only thing MJ could do was get to the line? .263/.333/.917 with 22 points. I guess that’s the MJ harden is trying to be.
@@AAblade7 MJ also has 9 rebounds, 7 assists and 2 steals. He was doing other things too to contribute to the win. 22 points is the lowest points total Jordan had in a finals game. Was this Michael at his best? No but it was enough to win the chip against a 64 win team with the defensive player of the year.
"Let's go way back and take a look at how he actually made it this far. Gary Payton was Born on the 23rd of July in 1986 Oakland California." Soooo He was 10 years old in the 1996 Playoffs?? 🤔
Keeping it 100, I love me some GP. I loved that Seattle team and everything GP says in the end about that series is legit. He even says Mike is the greatest basketball player that ever played, in his opinion, and all you could do was try to frustrate him and make him work hard to tire him out. Great clip with great insight. The only thing I’m not feeling is that in Last Dance he says George Karl needed his offense so they kept him off Jordan to not tire him out. Here he says that he had an injury coming in so they didn’t put him on Jordan to protect the injury and conserve him. Come on GP, that’s suspect. Pretty big difference and tweaking of the story to suit his needs.
You should do a deep dive on Rodman in that series, his playoffs between the finals and vs shaq were unreal but a performance that youngsters looking at stat boxs won't see. And for context Shaq had made mj and scotty look silly the year prior. And to date that is the worst offensive finals champ ever after going 72-10
Rodman bailed them out of that final game. Seattle defense held the Bulls to a poor shooting percentage, but Rodman leveled the playing field by massively outrebounding the Sonics
I feel like we just want to make a case for anyone doing well or or getting the better of Jordan because it's Jordan at the end of the day. Fact is, Jordan is quite simply the greatest of all time and never lost a final series.
Payton said MJ wasn't used to be mad to work for the ball and his points, but I remember he met the bad boy pistons 3 straight years in the playoffs, I think they were able to make MJ work a little didn't they?
MJ was up 3-0 and planning his vacation when Payton guarded him - Payton was 6'4" and no one that height can SUSTAIN a good performance against MJ - see the 93' ECF, where MJ figured out Starks and just started shooting jumpers on him (54 on jumpers in Game 4).
All I know is when Jordan is asked who guarded him the best he consistently answers joe dumars. No reason for him to lie about Payton if he is that truthful about dumars.
He went to other players to win. The gloves effort ended up making the Bulls better as a team. That situation made the team stronger. Thats why MJ is laughing.
I was a HUGE Supersonics fan back in the 90's; watching my Sonics take on the almighty Bulls was just pure joy. Gary's injury obviously wasn't that serious because he still played the first few games. Karl should've at least allowed Payton to defend Jordan in the 2nd half of the first 3 games! Seattle destroyed Chicago in the fourth game coz Gary stayed infront of MJ like a stop sign!
@@fredrickwhynn6225 he averaged 31 the first 3 games. From game 3 onward this was what happened- Game 4: 23 points, 6-19 FGs (31.6%), 0-2 3-pointers, four turnovers • Game 5: 26 points, 11-22 FGs (50%), 0-4 3-pointers, two turnovers • Game 6: 22 points, 5-19 FGs (26.3%), 1-3 3-pointers (33.3%), five turnovers
@@jahleelx9270 So as I said, not down to 10-15 PPG lmao. Why would I be impressed? What's next: telling me Bill Gates will be fined 50 billion instead of 30? That will make him poor lmao?
Man, Marv Albert, can make any situation intense! "AND THAT'S A CHEESE SANDWICH! Fresh off the grill, Pat." "Yea Marv, I'm going to have to get me one of those."
MJ still dropped a 23 piece on them in game 4 and a 26 piece in them in game 5. If you call that problems I guess you can call LeBum "locked the f up" with all those sub 20 and even 8 point playoff/finals games. 😂...I love when people think someone gave MJ problems when he didn't score more than 30. Absolutely absurd. Nobody gave MJ problems. MJ may have been off and had a bad game for him (because there are an infinite number of players that would love to have a bad MJ game) but it didn't have anything to do with the people guarding him. This is reality.
I just randomly went to two different box scores where Chicago played Seattle in 93, and 92 and Jordan had 38 and then 35 points. Without even researching I can promise you Jordan had no trouble whatsoever scoring against Payton and probably averaged around 35 points per game with "the glove" guarding him or whoever the Sonics put on him. Nobody could do anything against Jordan unless he was just having an off shooting night which is what happened in the finals.
There’s highlights from the season after this where Jordan is scoring against Payton so easily that Matt Goukas on NBC says “I think he likes being guarded by Payton.” 🤷♂️ He had tendinitis in his knees and it was killing him as the finals wore on. That’s why he dropped several pounds for the 96-97 season, to lessen the load on his knees.
If your video includes the regular season stats prior to the 1996 finals, why not show what happened AFTER the finals as well, so as to give a fuller picture of how well Payton defended the 96-98 mj? If you want to say Gary was leveling up every year against Jordan, you got to show ALL THE MATCHUPS. BeCause after the finals, Jordan also got 45 (w) 32 and 18 (w) 40 (w) and 27 (l). Gary vs Mj 4/12. No ring. Losing record. No problem with the glove.
@@itsalluptous5058 and most of the shots Jordan missed was not Gary in his shirt or contesting them, or even vs Gary. The videos are up here. ON TH-cam. Do your hw so you won't get schooled. Like Gary Who LOST
From someone who was rooting for the Sonics to win that series (Kemp filled my void that Jordan left when he played baseball) I am confident to say that those 2 wins were a gimmie. The Bulls were on a tear that season and a couple seasons after that.
Gary, was a solid defender, without question. Better than Dennis Johnson, Michael Cooper, and Joe Dumars at that position is up for debate. (I’m the guy that used to work for the Boston Bruins, so I’ve got some detailed stories) In the 1993 Conference finals, (against the New York Knicks) A sideline sports analyst averaged Michael’s vertical on his jump shot. It was 30 inches , on his jump shot alone. His Jump Shot! That means his knee is literally by your head before you had a chance to even put a hand in his face. My point is there were so many isolations for Michael, that it was impossible to neutralize him one on one. I’ve got Jordan as the greatest at his position. Jordan as the best all around player is still up for debate Sean.
Has anyone else commented on the fact that this guy said "Gary went to the University of Oregon"??? There's an enormous difference between UO (the Ducks) and OSU, Oregon STATE University. The BEAVERS. It ceases to amaze me how little the eastern part of this country knows about the west. "He went to Oregon". Which one? "Isn't there just one"?
@3:49 - FACT CHECK: Gary Payton did not attend University of Oregon, but clearly Oregon STATE which is shown on his jersey in the following still frame shots.
The fact that coach Carl didn't let Payton (defensive player of the year) guard MJ until game 4, despite sore calf or not was not a good move. Its the finals, push all chips in. I know NO ONE can stop the Goat including Payton but he could at least made him work harder for his buckets and wear him down a little. That and one of my favorite dunks ever was when Kemp spun baseline on Rodman and shit all over him.
Please, now it turns out that everyone could have done something against MJ, why didn't they do it at the time? They are whining. Greetings Sean from Aguascalientes, Mexico.
Played with gp in elementary, and highschool! He's a Dogg! ONE of the greatest representers of OAKLAND basketball style! I come from mr.means camp( gp's Dad!) If you say basketball, you have to think about gp! Truly gifted and attribute to our coaches engenious! As well as , Oakland's level of playing the guard position! It's a power guard, where most have power forwards. Like Barkley! We have gp, a power guard! Our coaches believe in 4 guards and a forward! And defenses pressing the whole game! Jefferson cougars , BABY! Skyline Titans!
born in 1986... picked second overall in 1990... damn he a natural
Child Prodigy
+172km Nice to see your ass never make a damn mistake
Lmao I was hoping someone would pick that up 🤣🤣🤣🤣🏀🔥 fire comment
Don’t forget he went Oregon...shows Payton in Oregon state jersey.
Lol 😁
Payton was born in 1968. Not in 86. I sometimes get mixed up thinking in 2 languages. Hope you can still enjoy the video ;-)
Ugh... When Jordan scowls, and Payton grins and let's that grin get biiiiigger... Lol
Such a classic moment!
Save our Supersonics!!
Watching From #Montreal it's Alright!!!!Born in 1982 i watch MJ live on Tv in Africa #Gabon when i was a Kid i Buy a lot of magazine... The 90's #Power Gary Payton get some of the best Nike Shoes💯
Content is way to good to even care brotha
I heard same thing too 1986?! lol
🤣😂🤣😂 that's awesome you said "he was born in 1986....then u said in college in 1986...."
For a ten year old, Payton did a pretty good job guarding jordan in the finals.
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There's at least one moment like that in all BTM videos, I like the videos but dude needs an editor and speech coach. I'd do it for free but I don't think he'll offer.
Yeah born 1986 lol, fact check please
I'm not trying to troll battle you, but homeboy is European. How well do we speak Dutch?
@@elephant_never_forgets If he's making videos in his non native language that's more reason to get an editor or coach, not less.
I had to double check that age. Hes had a hard life especially being drafted at 4.
Lol
i remember being a kid when payton was on the sonics but he is younger then me?
😂😂😂Ashley Stancil I checked the same thing
(Life must've been rough real quick for "the Glove"?) 🤔
Man straight comedy....lol
Jordan was so good he chose to win the series on Father's day to honor his dad.
Yeah he contradicted himself.
Was that why he played baseball?
@@rickenfatania yep, that too
He was so good? The man shot 26% from the field and took more free throws than the entire Sonics team. This was a time when all Jordan fans will and should look the other way.
@@billsikes4007 Nope lol
The next time Payton guarded MJ, Jordan had 45 points in Seattle.
😂 I guess MJ was telling the truth
Facts
@@dbanks128 🤣🤣
But he shot bad when guarded by Payton not the others
Swa M might want to watch that game again lol
Born in 86. NBA Finals by 96. Puts Lil Bow Wow in like mike to shame. Dudes legit
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@@randywatson6583 You mean drafted in '86 lol
i give Payton a lot of creidt for game 4 vs Jordan. but game 5 MJ played pretty good, and shot 50%(he didn't have a great 4th Q, but was finding guys open and they were missing). then game 6, the other guys on seattle played MJ more than Payton, so Gary can't get credit for this game. MJ was 3-4FG vs Payton(75%). he was 2-15 vs everyone else (plus doubles). so the others (mainly Hawkins) get more credit for this game. Gary did have good ball denial, so credit to him there. Jordan cooked them the first 3 games, and it was 3-0, that's a wrap, he played great to get them that 3-0 lead you're not coming back from, no way they're gonna lose at that point. so the Bulls got a little bored and didn't play as sharpe as needed the next 2 games. but in the end, MJ and the Bulls got the job done, and these bulls ended with the best regular season and playoffs record combined ever (87-13) 87%... the 2016 warriors finished a combined 88-18 (83%). that 87% win percentage will most likely never be broken
"got a little bored" lol did Jordan tell you that himself
I like Jersey Hawkins too but GP was arguably the best defensive point guard to ever play so I have to give him most of the credit for slowing MJ down. They should have put Payton on him the entire time. He was an in your face defender.
Hersey Hawkins
If the bulls wanted to they can go 4-0, pretty had something to do with father's day....
i agree...the only "bad" game i think MJ had was Game 4. Game 5, MJ played really well and the highlights were crazy that game, Game 6 was pretty much a whole team effort. Game's 3 & 5 of this series was my favs
Man seeing GP and The Rain man is nostalgia at it's absolute finest
Yes sirrrr. The Seattle Supersonics. They'll be back. Nothing but great times ahead
There was no stopping Jordan but Payton definitely slowed him down when He was guarding him.
This was the height of my basketball fascination. I watched every minute of Sonics' basketball when they were televised. Kemp was my all time favorite and the Sonics were great.
The reason he said “I didn’t have a problem with the glove” is because when Payton played he was a leader and one of the best trash talkers of all time and mike saying it didn’t effect him
Yeah, then the first game of the next season when they matched up, Jordan dumped 45 points on Payton's head. You for got to end your video with that!
They never show that because they like to say he could guard him.
its one game... in the regular season... he could absolutely guard MJ when it counted lmao, hes not going to admit it you simps
@@MDHDH-iy7nm You're the simp. I guess you didn't look at the other stats in this video where MJ consistently got the better of him? Even when Payton did how best, MJ still outscored him.
@@MDHDH-iy7nm "His best", not how best.
MHD 73198 please, Mike dropped 40 or more on GP in three out of the four games they played after the 96 finals. He had no problem with The Glove.
Mike watching the clip and laughing kills me😂☠️😂
Went from smiles to scary quick!
Alot of people didn't back down from MJ, it wasn't just Payton. They just couldn't guard him including Payton.
My point exactly
I watched those games as a kid. He was one of the best guarding Mike.💯
I disagree Gary Payton did one of the best jobs on Michael Jordan defensively, probably after Joe Dumars. And the 1996 NBA Finals was his worse statistically speaking.
Google Joe Dumars 🤡🤡🤡
@@shotguner4258 wait...u saying Joe Dumars was a clown because you Googled him?? Lol. If you saw him play dude was legit. Put some respect on his name.
Man stop it. Peyton couldn’t hold MJ. He just made it tough for him to get ball sometimes
BTM Basketball does not watch games, he looks at highlights. Both teams shot poorly. But, Jordan double teamed which made him miss more.
I remember that series. And Jordan and Payton was banging!!! I wish they still let them play like that today. That's why I don't really watch today's basketball or respect it. Let the players dictate the physicality of the game for the most part and not the refs as you see today!
Great video...you should look to include shooting percentages as a way to further show if someone struggled in a game. For example, Game 1 Jordan shot 50% on 18 fga. Game 2 he shot 40% on 22 fga (not a great game despite finishing with 29). Game 3 just under 50% on 23 shots and 36 points (a classic MJ performance) Game 4 Jordan shot 32% on 19 shots to get his 23 points. Game 5 MJ was back to 50% on 22 shots but for the first time in the series shot less than 10 free throws so ended with only 26. Game 6 Jordan shot an abysmal 26% from the field on 19 shots for 22 points. These number confirm that there was a noticable effect of GP guarding MJ. Even when Jordan had a good shooting game against him such as in Game 5, Payton was able to keep him off the line and limit MJ's effectiveness.
Wrong. Gm 6 MJ was 3-4 vs Gary. This is why that Gary thing is blown way out of proportion. Look, if Karl and Gary had the way to stop MJ...
To beat the bulls...
Why did it never really work again? lmao
Rematches:
Mj 45
Mj 32/18
Mj 27
Mj 40
For a 3-1 record vs Gary.
No problem
@@Celothxu once again. Look at the shooting percentages when Payton guarded him. Read!!!
@@floydd4779 yeah I think you are slow. MJ had a bad shooting game vs the sonics in gm 3. So what? He had a bad shooting game vs the Knicks in game 4 and a bad shooting game vs the Magic in gm 2. He always had at least one or two bad games against top defensive teams IN THE MUCH TOUGHER DEFENSIVE ERA.
MJ vs Payton
Gm 5: 5/4
Gm 6: 3/4
So, Floyd Dumbbella, when Payton defended MJ WITHOUT HELP DEFENSE FROM KEMP, SHREMP OR BRICKOWSI,
MJ is 8/16 or 50%.
No problem with the Glove, Floyd
D is for dumb!
@@Celothxu that was weak. Lol
@@floydd4779 you only think it's weak because you cannot comprehend how bad you got hit.
Apparently D is for Downs syndrome.
Come on people Jordan wanted to win that Championship on FATHER'S DAY!
THAT is what er’body 4gets...
MJ didnt lose finals games on purpose to extend a series thats utterly moronic stop being a puppet...Gary Payton did a great job on him you guys are being the definition of irrational idolators...
dp233332 great job would had been if they won finals he did a good job in one game the glove was more like a mitten
@@greenemonkey41 thats moronic and ive seen how u mj fans are if hed won the series ud be claiming some bs about mj getting screwed over or gpayton being dirty or having a stacked team...mj fans and mj himself consistently refuse to give mjs opponents credit where and when its due...payton did a great job on him, and mj didnt deserve that finals mvp trophy only got it so the league could push a fictitious narrative and sell more shoes and Gatorade..wanna call the glove the mitten?mj circa 1995-98 was more like fake jordan than air jordan...needed rodman and pippen to prop him up..
@@dp233332 that was jordan at old age. we'd love to see other players win championship at old age without help and to clarify only added RODMAN; Pippen was already in the team when he won 91,92 and 93. Kobe and Shaq at young age needed helped from Malone and Payton wanting to get a 2 3peat but they lost to the 2nd bad boys pistons. then Kobe again assembled his team with ODOM, GASOL and ARTEST and these 3 players were star players from different teams. then after that Lebron James follows Kobe's Recruit or Need a help to win championships join to Miami with Bosh and Wade. LOL and that was at a Young AGE.....
In this video is the happiest I've seen Michael Jordan since he retired from playing basketball. It's good to see him smile and laugh again.
When you listed the Sonics roster you forgot to mention Sam "The Man" Perkins. In my opinion the first stretch five. He was deadly from the corner 3´s.
Sam pbly was able to give Gary some extra inside info on Jordan too from when Perkins and Michael were at UNC.
Who the hell calls him "The Man"? His moniker is Big Smooth and Big Easy.
@@BazookaJoe1028 the announcer. That´s what I remember
@@NeverNotHoopin Fair enough. ✌️
Yes and how the crowd would yell SMOOOOTH when he would shoot
That's hilarious & awesome you said Gary Payton was born in "1986" then in college "in 1986" 🤣😂
But I LOVE the pause u did before introducing GP. That makes it look like I'm watching out of a VCR & recorded the game on VHS
The Glove was a pickpocket thief. Of course he caused some static to MJ. But MJ had an arsenal of moves, many were unguardable. Gary did his best against Mike. He didn't back down.
People forget Michael Jordan went up against the Pistons an the knicks of old, so I believe him Gary Payton was not a problem more of a nuisance
@@Mandingo391 definitely a problem
Game 4: 23 points, 6-19 FGs (31.6%), 0-2 3-pointers, four turnovers
• Game 5: 26 points, 11-22 FGs (50%), 0-4 3-pointers, two turnovers
• Game 6: 22 points, 5-19 FGs (26.3%), 1-3 3-pointers (33.3%), five turnovers
@@jahleelx9270 why do y’all always just bring up that 3 game sample size ? They played 20+ times and jordan averaged 29.6/7.2/3.8 and 2.0 steals in those games man … stop the bs
@@jahleelx9270 Then why didn't the Sonics beat the Bulls?
@@courtneywhite6036 because the bulls were a better team. Clearly.
Jordan dropped 45 points on Payton the year after the finals shooting 67% from the field. Why didn't you mention that? Gary was so embarrassed he refused to speak to the media after the game.
Hey Wasgood because that was *next year* and everyone knows Jordan can score. This vid was about Jordan blowing off Paytons abilities in the last Dance. And that Gary has indeed kept Jordan in check. Jordan just has too much pride to admit it.
@@dqreps Did you even watch the 96 finals? Payton had alot of help double teaming Jordan & the Sonics had the #2 defense in the league that year. The video shows how Payton was being trashed year after year by Jordan so was Gary a problem? NO the Sonics defense was
Hey Wasgood that’s true I remember that game. You brought some memories.
6"4 Gary Payton - Only Point Guard to ever win DPOY.
Always wanted this addressed, even before the documentary. Thumbs up for bringing it up. I also recall how dominant Kemp was when the Sonics had their backs against the wall.
Jordan was right. He didn't have a problem with Payton. They played a lot more than just that one Finals. They played 21 times, and Jordan averaged 29.6 vs Payton, with a high of 45. I would say that the evidence shows that those Finals games were more a function of Jordan simply not having as good a game than it was of Payton "stopping" him. Jordan wasn't "Jordan" that entire series, not just when Payton was on him. He never really went off.
He had tendinitis. He didn't make it as an excuse though...
@@lamefart Exactly. This is one of those "crowning achievements" for a player like Payton....but we forget, this isn't the only time they played, and MJ averaged basically 30 on him over all their meetings, including 40 and 45.
When MJ had an off game, it was more a function of MJ just not being right than it was of his opponent's defense.
If Payton really was a "Jordan stopper", MJ would have been held down consistently, but he wasn't.
@Free White and 21 He didn't slow him down, though. MJ had tendonitis and his father on his mind, and he wasn't all that great in the games before Gary was guarding him.
The picture says it all holding the ball with one hand not even looking at the lil fly trying to take the ball 🤣🤣🤣
So basically Jordan outplayed him every game but 1.. Then you forgot about the 48 point game in the first game the next season.. All this time people been exaggerating that Payton could shut him down but obviously its just another lie
Of course it's a lie,a big lie.
It was 45 when he hit the halfcourt shot.
Why bring up next season ? Literally has no contexts
I mean mj had a big size advantage.that would've been like kobe guarding westbrook or curry
@@mrmvp2323 not really. Different rules.
I think Jordan saying Payton was no problem was simply a reaction to what Payton said about Jordan. Payton claimed Stockton was harder to guard then Jordan and someone like Jordan will not take kindly to words like that. Salute to the goat MJ and the all star Gary. Gary, Shawn Kemp, Delef Shrimpf(however u say that name) and the rest of the squad did their things back in the day. Just wasn't enough for the Chicago bulls
Exactly, I believe the same
true, that was just some good ol' trash talk. MJ and Payton definitely respect each other's game
Side note: Detlef Schrempf is pronounced more or less phonetically.
Detlef Schrempf, it's a german name.
The GLOVE !!!!! Was called that for a reason !!!!!!
I watched the whole series the sonics akways double team him ...every time he escape payton's defense they double team him up ....the sonics make jordan difficult to get the ball easily payton had a great job frustrating him to get the ball...
And I also remember Hawkins guarding MJ more than GP.
That was Seattle's defense for most of the 90s.
35-years-old Gary Payton shut down Tony Parker to 38% shooting in the 2004 WCSF.
@@allanhouston6759 Tony Parker wasn't a good shooter yet 😂
Payton was a glove for some players -- but for Jordon he was a scarf.
Thanks Sean for this video, this is one of my favourite as it's more talking about defense than offense. People just care about players shining offensively, but what I love the most is teams playing hard on defense. And come on, Gary Payton, people should talk more about him, he was not only one of the best point guards I've seen, but defensively he was probably the best one. If I could should choose all the best players on my team, he definitely would be one of them and I think I'd even pick him as my starting point guard because of his defense. Over Magic, John Stockton, Isiah, I'm a mad die hard Knicks 90's fan and I'd love to see guys giving all their best on defense as he was always doing. I loved them all but with Payton I'd be sure my backguard defense would be secured.
Seattle Defintely would have had more of a chance to win the championship if Payton had guarded Michael for all six games.
@jocriss nobody coasts in the finals or playoffs.
@jocriss oh u mean like letting their guard down because they pretty much see the series as over. Makes sense. Yeah championship teams tend to do that.
No they wouldn't have you fool 🤣
Gary was tough but God Forbid Jordan give any credit lol.
He gave em 45 points instead & the trash talking of a lifetime 🤣
Hey Wasgood True lol. Gary did hold Jordan to scoring low 20’s in the last few games of the 96 finals. Gary was injured I believe and coach didn’t let him guarding Jordan. Jordan scorched the Sonics the previous three games (6 game series). But Coach decided to let Gary guard MJ the last three games. Gary kept him in check, well below Mikes season averages and Gary scored about the same as MJ.....low 20s. Not bad.
Old Gary Payton was the best defender of the league in the early 2000s in the era of Kobe Bryant,
Kevin Garnett, Allen Iverson, T-Mac, and Tim Duncan.
6"4 Gary Payton ( PG ) - 3x All-Defensive First Team ( 2000, 2001, 2002 )
4x All-star ( 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 )
Kaizaro123 He laughed in Gary Payton’s face when he said what he said on the iPad as Jordan watched it. Not sure that’s exactly giving him props LOL. Jordan was a great winner but he was a very sore loser and hated to give anyone credit when he lost.
Ronin the Troll Slayer what are you talking about. He always was a respectful loser. He shook hands with the winner right after the series was over.
Bulls was stacked. Ron at point chill, people forgot how great ron was
So I asked my old man about that series (he was around 19 years old or so at the time) and he said the story isn't quite what's being said here, and MJ did have off the court stuff that he was dealing with. My dad said the Glove was a great defender, but no one could ever hold MJ one on one!
The "things" magically appeared in game4?
I was 21 at the time. What “off the court” stuff was Jordan dealing with? Gambling was part of the issues with the first three-peat. No flu game. No nonsense. Jordan dominated the season and the Eastern Conference playoffs. So what suddenly happened “off the court” in the finals? Aside from Payton finally being given the primary defensive assignment on Jordan in game 4?
Old Gary Payton was the best defender of the league in the early 2000s in the era of Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson,
Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan.
Gary Payton - 3x All-Defensive First Team ( 2000, 2001, 2002 )
4x All-star ( 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 )
I said this in another person's video and I'm going to say it again. I think he somewhat was but I believe Mike when he said he did have his father on his mind. So to prove it when they had the rematch during the regular season Jordan put up 45 on him and the Sonics and hit that half court buzzer beater right before the half just to prove his point.
I have never realized it before, but in retrospect I am amazed at how well MJ kept his cool and maintained his composure, especially in such big games where he was constantly being harassed and the opposing players were doing anything that they could to get inside of his head!! I would have to do some research, but to my knowledge MJ had never let said opposing players get to him and cause him to lose his composure and retaliate against those who would love to see him get tossed out of a big game. Furthermore I was 16 years old at the time of these NBA Finals, and the Bulls took home the championship, and in the end that is ALL that matters!!
Bulls took the championship becaus they had the better TEAM and could carry jordan when he played terrible. Payton wasn’t giving him cheap shots so why would jordan retaliate?!
In retrospect Jordan talked more shit than anyone and is lucky he never got knocked out in a tougher 80’s era.
Most bad things jordan did get swept under the rug.. especially the ones that show the league helping MJ.
Like when he chased down Reggie over a light bump and poked and scratched his face and eyes and it was Reggie ejected and jordan finished the game on Reggie’s homecourt
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GP defensive player of the year in 1996. Only point guard ever to win the award.
Born 1968
Kidd
I don't think Gary can guard a rookie Michael Jordan.
Jordan may have scored against great defenders like Payton,but mj's percentage did go down
Yes Sir!
The room you recorded this in. Is truly amazing. Love the jerseys and pictures you have.
In his defense Payton is the greatest defensive point guard of all time and it ain't even close!
Stockton was a damn good defender himself.
@@StoneGone Yup. So was CP3 and Kidd. Pat Bev and Jrue are pretty good too.
Glove
Wordz Gaddafi nahhh
@@adh4927 Nah what?
GP was an issue for Jordan from 95-98, mostly in 96 where Payton did get in his face and had no interest to be in SpaceJam.
Lol!
Jordan averaged 33.3ppg on Payton from 95-98
@@AfroCentauri ok bring up those 96 finals numbers, the real stuff
I loved Shawn Kemp and apprciated Payton as a duo. I was so excited that the Sonics actually made the finals,I always wondered what of Jordan wasn't there would they have won.
I grew up 5 blocks from Gary and went to school with him at Claremont and was friends with. Marti his body gaurd..Gary was always a cool cat... Floyd Mayweather Reminds me of him
You should also perhaps have mentioned that in their first meeting since the 1996 finals, Jordan scored 45 pts (19 of 28 from the field) [2nd Feb 1997]. Of course Payton caused MJ problems but I believe him when he said that he had other things on his mind (his father)...
Payton didn’t guard him most of that game
@@bonehead4750 I appreciate that this is only a highlight video of the game I reference (th-cam.com/video/TuryGoKXT-Q/w-d-xo.html) but this probably explains why Payton wasn't guarding MJ much that night - he looks so overmatched in the points MJ did have against him...
So what are you going to say about game 6 where the only thing MJ could do was get to the line? .263/.333/.917 with 22 points. I guess that’s the MJ harden is trying to be.
Nothing because These Jordan worshipers will go to full length, to defend their king.
@@AAblade7 MJ also has 9 rebounds, 7 assists and 2 steals. He was doing other things too to contribute to the win. 22 points is the lowest points total Jordan had in a finals game. Was this Michael at his best? No but it was enough to win the chip against a 64 win team with the defensive player of the year.
"Let's go way back and take a look at how he actually made it this far. Gary Payton was Born on the 23rd of July in 1986 Oakland California." Soooo He was 10 years old in the 1996 Playoffs?? 🤔
Oh, there goes Ryan Hollins, haven’t seen him around for a while.
Payton was born in 1968, not 1986
Keeping it 100, I love me some GP. I loved that Seattle team and everything GP says in the end about that series is legit. He even says Mike is the greatest basketball player that ever played, in his opinion, and all you could do was try to frustrate him and make him work hard to tire him out. Great clip with great insight. The only thing I’m not feeling is that in Last Dance he says George Karl needed his offense so they kept him off Jordan to not tire him out. Here he says that he had an injury coming in so they didn’t put him on Jordan to protect the injury and conserve him. Come on GP, that’s suspect. Pretty big difference and tweaking of the story to suit his needs.
George Karl has substantiated what GP said on several occasions
The G.O.A.T- UNGUARDABLE!!!
Gary was a damn good defender,Jordan was just better offensively. When he REALLY needed too, HE ALWAYS FOUND A WAY!!! Bet money on it!!!
You should do a deep dive on Rodman in that series, his playoffs between the finals and vs shaq were unreal but a performance that youngsters looking at stat boxs won't see. And for context Shaq had made mj and scotty look silly the year prior.
And to date that is the worst offensive finals champ ever after going 72-10
Rodman bailed them out of that final game. Seattle defense held the Bulls to a poor shooting percentage, but Rodman leveled the playing field by massively outrebounding the Sonics
I feel like we just want to make a case for anyone doing well or or getting the better of Jordan because it's Jordan at the end of the day.
Fact is, Jordan is quite simply the greatest of all time and never lost a final series.
Payton needed to gain weight a extra 20-30 lbs to have been effective against Jordan.
Payton said MJ wasn't used to be mad to work for the ball and his points, but I remember he met the bad boy pistons 3 straight years in the playoffs, I think they were able to make MJ work a little didn't they?
MJ was up 3-0 and planning his vacation when Payton guarded him - Payton was 6'4" and no one that height can SUSTAIN a good performance against MJ - see the 93' ECF, where MJ figured out Starks and just started shooting jumpers on him (54 on jumpers in Game 4).
mj is 6 4 tho
Jordan was smoking on the Payton pack during that season
Jordan is 6’6 in shoes and Gary Payton is 6’4 in shoes . Jordan is 6’5 max barefoot and Gary Payton 6’3 max barefoot .
Gary said it himself, “they weren’t making the calls”, the refs let him cheat his ass off to guard Jordan.
Funny you say that when Jordan was the best offensive fouler and traveller of all time.
Marq The Well yeah! Jordan was a notorious free throw shooter because the refs always sucked him off and he also made carrying normal and acceptable
@@marqthewell he was
We all knew nobody can guard MJ in any basketball game 1 on 1. It has to be a team effort 😂
That goes for 25 other players
@@pickzkickz but especially for Jordan.
3:50 He attended Oregon State University in Corvallis not the University of Oregon in Eugene. Two totally different schools.
Magic called MJ the glove in mjs first run…gp could never defend like MJ
The 1996 finals were the only ones where Jordan averaged under 30PPG
All I know is when Jordan is asked who guarded him the best he consistently answers joe dumars. No reason for him to lie about Payton if he is that truthful about dumars.
He went to other players to win.
The gloves effort ended up making the Bulls better as a team.
That situation made the team stronger.
Thats why MJ is laughing.
Jordan acting like Gary Payton was Patrick Beverly or something. GP is a legend.
Cause he dropped 45 on GP's face
GP was born in 1968, not 1986.
Peyton was Injured yet still slowed & tired Jordan. it's great to see his son carrying on his tradition of excellence with the Warriors
I was a HUGE Supersonics fan back in the 90's; watching my Sonics take on the almighty Bulls was just pure joy. Gary's injury obviously wasn't that serious because he still played the first few games. Karl should've at least allowed Payton to defend Jordan in the 2nd half of the first 3 games! Seattle destroyed Chicago in the fourth game coz Gary stayed infront of MJ like a stop sign!
No problem. MJ still avgd 27 PPG. By definition...27 PPG is "no problem".
Name 20 people EVER that ever avgd even 26 PPG in a finals series?
@@fredrickwhynn6225 he averaged 31 the first 3 games. From game 3 onward this was what happened-
Game 4: 23 points, 6-19 FGs (31.6%), 0-2 3-pointers, four turnovers
• Game 5: 26 points, 11-22 FGs (50%), 0-4 3-pointers, two turnovers
• Game 6: 22 points, 5-19 FGs (26.3%), 1-3 3-pointers (33.3%), five turnovers
@@jahleelx9270 So as I said, not down to 10-15 PPG lmao.
Why would I be impressed? What's next: telling me Bill Gates will be fined 50 billion instead of 30? That will make him poor lmao?
You could clearly see that Payton couldn't Michael Jordan. Jordan was bigger faster and stronger and more athletic.
Man, Marv Albert, can make any situation intense! "AND THAT'S A CHEESE SANDWICH! Fresh off the grill, Pat." "Yea Marv, I'm going to have to get me one of those."
The Glove was just another person MJ took out.
MJ still dropped a 23 piece on them in game 4 and a 26 piece in them in game 5. If you call that problems I guess you can call LeBum "locked the f up" with all those sub 20 and even 8 point playoff/finals games. 😂...I love when people think someone gave MJ problems when he didn't score more than 30. Absolutely absurd. Nobody gave MJ problems. MJ may have been off and had a bad game for him (because there are an infinite number of players that would love to have a bad MJ game) but it didn't have anything to do with the people guarding him. This is reality.
I just randomly went to two different box scores where Chicago played Seattle in 93, and 92 and Jordan had 38 and then 35 points. Without even researching I can promise you Jordan had no trouble whatsoever scoring against Payton and probably averaged around 35 points per game with "the glove" guarding him or whoever the Sonics put on him. Nobody could do anything against Jordan unless he was just having an off shooting night which is what happened in the finals.
Everyone forgets that Vernon Maxwell also held Jordan to his lowest point ever also in a cause he was in the West on the Rockets
@Greg Hubbard You have your head in Jordan's crack.
@@marqthewell you have your crack wrapped around Vernon Maxwell's junk till it makes a mess
Jordan just wanted to win on fathers day.
You'll fall for anything huh?
According to this video, Gary Payton attended Oregon the same year he was born
No Payton gave Jordan some problems,frustrated MJ some as well ! Im a Payton fan who respects Jordan.
For a newborn to attend the University of Oregon to play NCAA basketball is amazing!
Gary payton my favorite player. thank you for the great video
I'm like.... I know I'm high, but oh shit, I'm older than the glove ???? 😂😂😂😂
MJ wanted to win the 1996 finals on father`s day...:D maybe that was another challenge for him.
There’s highlights from the season after this where Jordan is scoring against Payton so easily that Matt Goukas on NBC says “I think he likes being guarded by Payton.” 🤷♂️
He had tendinitis in his knees and it was killing him as the finals wore on. That’s why he dropped several pounds for the 96-97 season, to lessen the load on his knees.
I do remember him saying he had tendinitis in the 1996 finals
If your video includes the regular season stats prior to the 1996 finals, why not show what happened AFTER the finals as well, so as to give a fuller picture of how well Payton defended the 96-98 mj?
If you want to say Gary was leveling up every year against Jordan, you got to show ALL THE MATCHUPS. BeCause after the finals, Jordan also got
45 (w)
32 and 18 (w)
40 (w)
and 27 (l).
Gary vs Mj 4/12.
No ring.
Losing record.
No problem with the glove.
Gary can hold Jordan stop that smack
Show me the shots that glove covered the goat only
@@itsalluptous5058 and most of the shots Jordan missed was not Gary in his shirt or contesting them, or even vs Gary. The videos are up here. ON TH-cam. Do your hw so you won't get schooled.
Like Gary
Who LOST
@@itsalluptous5058 Jordan shot fifty percent on Peyton in finals
@@Celothxu proove it Gary could check Mike like wtf. Just like deandre ayton can check ginnas
Payton born in 1986 and drafted in 1990.
That's on OG right there!
From someone who was rooting for the Sonics to win that series (Kemp filled my void that Jordan left when he played baseball) I am confident to say that those 2 wins were a gimmie. The Bulls were on a tear that season and a couple seasons after that.
Gary, was a solid defender, without question.
Better than Dennis Johnson, Michael Cooper, and Joe Dumars at that position is up for debate.
(I’m the guy that used to work for the Boston Bruins, so I’ve got some detailed stories)
In the 1993 Conference finals, (against the New York Knicks) A sideline sports analyst averaged Michael’s vertical on his jump shot.
It was 30 inches , on his jump shot alone.
His Jump Shot! That means his knee is literally by your head before you had a chance to even put a hand in his face.
My point is there were so many isolations for Michael, that it was impossible to neutralize him one on one.
I’ve got Jordan as the greatest at his position. Jordan as the best all around player is still up for debate Sean.
One of the few guys that I remember giving Mike some trouble was Michael Ray Richardson
Has anyone else commented on the fact that this guy said "Gary went to the University of Oregon"??? There's an enormous difference between UO (the Ducks) and OSU, Oregon STATE University. The BEAVERS. It ceases to amaze me how little the eastern part of this country knows about the west. "He went to Oregon". Which one? "Isn't there just one"?
BTW Payton was NOT at the University of Oregon. He was at Oregon State University.
Gary Payton attended OREGON STATE UNIVERSITY (OSU) (GO Beavs) and graduated in 1990. He DID NOT attend University of Oregon as stated in the video.
@3:49 - FACT CHECK: Gary Payton did not attend University of Oregon, but clearly Oregon STATE which is shown on his jersey in the following still frame shots.
So we aren’t going to address their first match up after the finals where Michael scores 49 points?
The glove was born July 23rd.....1968...
George Karl never had that championship killer instinct. He was never aggresive and he unraveled quicker than the players.
The fact that coach Carl didn't let Payton (defensive player of the year) guard MJ until game 4, despite sore calf or not was not a good move. Its the finals, push all chips in. I know NO ONE can stop the Goat including Payton but he could at least made him work harder for his buckets and wear him down a little.
That and one of my favorite dunks ever was when Kemp spun baseline on Rodman and shit all over him.
Kanye West and Gary Payton should take a paternal DNA test.
Please, now it turns out that everyone could have done something against MJ, why didn't they do it at the time? They are whining. Greetings Sean from Aguascalientes, Mexico.
Played with gp in elementary, and highschool! He's a Dogg! ONE of the greatest representers of OAKLAND basketball style! I come from mr.means camp( gp's Dad!) If you say basketball, you have to think about gp! Truly gifted and attribute to our coaches engenious! As well as , Oakland's level of playing the guard position! It's a power guard, where most have power forwards. Like Barkley! We have gp, a power guard! Our coaches believe in 4 guards and a forward! And defenses pressing the whole game!
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