Thank you for mentioning the fact that one cannot easily see the spinning router bit when it engages with the wood. I intend to do a lot of door hinge routing freehand and this means that I must see exactly where the bit is removing material. Thanks for a great video.
Hi Andreas. Greetings from South Africa. Truly appreciate your candor and unbiased opinion.Your reviews are extremely pertinent znd as a newbie most welcome. Long may they continue.
I'm a little late, Andreas. Thankyou for a very comprehensive review. I have been considering the Makita 18v router as I think the Bosch is a little too specialised for my purposes, and your comparison and review have been very helpful. Thankyou again.
Hello Andreas, good to see you back. Love your tool reviews. I am looking just for this certain cordless tool. Especially Bosch. I like their products. Thank you for the tool review. I enjoyed it.
Finalmente una recensione completa e imparziale. Ho deciso di acquistare il Bosch per rifinitura (ho già una fresatrice CMT 7e e una Katsu). Ma la comodità della batteria e l'impugnatura caratteristica è impagabile. Grazie per il video e buon lavoro!
Nice review - I thought about this Bosch edge router (because i have other bosch 12v & 18 tools) but i ended up buying exactly the same Makita router! :D
Hi, nice to see you back here. I Love watching your videos, i work on my english understanding and get Informations about woodworking and tools. Pls do more videos. Thx.
Good to see you back 👍 I’m in the makita dewalt camp myself and although I like the look of the Bosch handheld palm router , I can’t start with another battery format
Hi Andreas, nice to see you after such a long time! (-; Thanks for this video. My Bosch Trim-Router will arrive tomorrow and I have been so happy since I ordered it last week - for me it's like christmas in january! (in german: Ick freu mir wie Bolle....) A tip to the theme 'dust': Look at the YT-Chanel "Basteltown"; a few days ago Daniel solved the problem with an alternative bottom-plate! I'm already looking forward to your new projects in 2020!! Best wishes from 'Münsterland'! (-: Guido
Thanks Shahar. I would say so, yes. But the relatively small base and the shape - which makes it hard to hold it with two hands - would limit the width of the dados, I’d say. I would consider it too dangerous to make dados wider than 6 - 8 mm because above that the bit creates a lot of torque and to control that you should have two handles on the machine.
No. It’s difficult to see the tip of the router bit with this router. So I’d say you should use one that’s built different and that makes it easier to see the spot where it’s cutting.
Thanks Andreas. First time Ive watched a pre vlog advert right to the end, seems amazing invention. Bosch trim router will save endless bit changes as the roundover edge is something I use a lot and changing in a 1/2 “ router and back to another cutter is time consuming. Regards to you and those around you , Stuart from the UK.👍
Yes, that’s exactly the use case that I have for it myself. Just having it there ready to use is great -and for this price it’s ok as an additional machine.
For my woodworking I needed some smaller tools. I went for the Bosch 12v platform because only Bosch has a compact planer and router in their line up. Seemed more desinged for woodworking then the other brands. Normaly I buy other brands cordless toolbrands and I had some doubts about Bosch. Stressfull moments, bying in to a different batteryplatform. After reading all the positive reviews and comments on videos like this one, my doubts dissapeared and I bought this trimmer together with 3 other tools from their 12v line. ....sorry guys, I don't know what you consider to be 'professional', or 'heavy duty' (both printed on the machines) but it's defenitly not the bosch 12v line. This trimmer is a nice toy, and thats it. To flimsy, to weak to be BLUE. This should have been a GREEN bosch and it would be acceptable. Its a cheap build: Check 2:53: slider is not smooth, not even when new without dust, at 3: 25, fine hight adjusting with your finger next to the cuttingblade? No view over your workpiece, the base is lose, even with the locknut tight, its just not powerfull enough for the woods I work with . Sad to see the qualitybrands being degraded to toys, encoraged by payed reviews and amateur users to produce more rubbish. Professionals need stronger stuff. some of us work outside: sand, rain, sawdust, heat from the sun... Bosch can't cope with all that.
slider aint smooth....give it a good clean and a drop of oil.... same for the micro adjust and its as good as new.12v line is 12v not sure wht u expect from that rly its a trim router...........why would u even use that in sand ain.... u wanter power 18v ofc. Carpenter for 20years newer had any issues whit my blue bosch line both corded-18v12v. Same for the dewalt 4 that matter (even in the rain ;)
its a great design, at just 12v i'd worry its a little underpowered. i keep a cheap katsu trim router which is essentially a makita knockoff, it was cheap , around 40 euros, and i use it as a freehand router for edges etc. im planning on a larger triton in a table for other jobs. i know what you mean about those routers being top heavy, i think a cordless model would be even more top heavy. thanks for the review, but ill stick with my cheap katsu ;0)
Hi Andreas, excellent video as usual! Just a quick question, I have just bought a Bosch GSB120 lightweight drill/driver that comes with 1.5Ah batteries and a charger but was thinking of buying the router you have featured here. I realise that 1.5Ah may not be powerful enough for even trim routing so do you know if the standard charger would charge 2Ah batteries and above?
No, the machine is protected against that. When you insert the battery with the switch in "On" position, it won’t run until you switch it off and then on again.
Good presentation, but I don't agree with your view, personally I favour Makita 18v/36v but like seeing any innovation from other manufacturers. Not beening able to easily see the cut is a BIG negative, not having a straight edge guide another negative. But designing a tool that places the hands near the cutter well Bosh throw out OH&S and as far as I'm concerned. This tool can join the bin with the idiots who invented the chainsaw grinder disc which is now banned in the UK and many other countries.
The supposed "need to see" the router bit whilst standing up is simply not possible with a machine of this design, therefore this can hardly be considered to be a drawback of the machine! One either recognises and respects the reasons for this configuration or one doesn't! Unequalled stability, ergonomics and weight reduction (this machine weighs 5 times less than the Bosch 600 Router!) in a cordless package is what the designers sought to achieve (and which they succeeded!) and that criteria established the overall height of the machine and the distance between the housing and the router bit. It's primarily an edge trimmer, as established by the design, and in which capacity it excels in.
Thanks for your comment. It was not meant as a general criticism - I understand that there are design restraints. Still, I think in a review I should mention it so that people interested in the machine now this aspect.
Thank you for mentioning the fact that one cannot easily see the spinning router bit when it engages with the wood. I intend to do a lot of door hinge routing freehand and this means that I must see exactly where the bit is removing material. Thanks for a great video.
You’re welcome - thank.
Isn't there a plate that is transparent that one can use instead?
Hi Andreas. Greetings from South Africa. Truly appreciate your candor and unbiased opinion.Your reviews are extremely pertinent znd as a newbie most welcome. Long may they continue.
Thank you!
Hello from England, that's a super video, thanks for uploading, ps your English is excellent.
Thanks for your kind feedback!
I'm a little late, Andreas.
Thankyou for a very comprehensive review. I have been considering the Makita 18v router as I think the Bosch is a little too specialised for my purposes, and your comparison and review have been very helpful.
Thankyou again.
Glad to hear it, Mike. Thanks for your feedback!
Hello Andreas, good to see you back. Love your tool reviews. I am looking just for this certain cordless tool. Especially Bosch. I like their products. Thank you for the tool review. I enjoyed it.
Thanks for your kind words!
Finalmente una recensione completa e imparziale. Ho deciso di acquistare il Bosch per rifinitura (ho già una fresatrice CMT 7e e una Katsu). Ma la comodità della batteria e l'impugnatura caratteristica è impagabile. Grazie per il video e buon lavoro!
Con piacere. Piacere di conoscerti!
Welcome back Andreas! I wish you many, many hours at your workshop in 2020! :-)))
Thanks a lot Hans-Jürgen!
Thanks for an interesting review of a clever trim router. Good to see you back - have a great 2020!
Thanks Darrel - I wish you the same.
Good review. It is nice to hear you again.
Thanks Hakan - It does feel good to be making videos again!
good review andreas was thinking of getting one of them routers you have helped me make my mind up now thank you nick from UK
That’s great to hear -thanks for your feedback, Nick!
Nice review - I thought about this Bosch edge router (because i have other bosch 12v & 18 tools) but i ended up buying exactly the same Makita router! :D
Great review Andreas, thank you!
Thanks for your feedback! Appreciate it.
Hi, nice to see you back here. I Love watching your videos, i work on my english understanding and get Informations about woodworking and tools. Pls do more videos. Thx.
Thanks for your kind feedback, Oliver!
Ich habe mir übrigens aufgrund deines Videos die Bosch Tauchsäge gekauft. Ich bin absolut begeistert über die Präzision der Maschine.
Super - das freut mich zu hören!
Good to see you back 👍 I’m in the makita dewalt camp myself and although I like the look of the Bosch handheld palm router , I can’t start with another battery format
Thanks for the kind words. I wouldn’t start another battery format, either. The cordless Makita looks good too.
cooles gerät! fehlt mir noch. tolles video andreas👍
Vielen Dank Lukas!
Hi Andreas, nice to see you after such a long time! (-;
Thanks for this video. My Bosch Trim-Router will arrive tomorrow and I have been so happy since I ordered it last week - for me it's like christmas in january!
(in german: Ick freu mir wie Bolle....)
A tip to the theme 'dust': Look at the YT-Chanel "Basteltown"; a few days ago Daniel solved the problem with an alternative bottom-plate!
I'm already looking forward to your new projects in 2020!!
Best wishes from 'Münsterland'! (-:
Guido
Thanks for your kind words, Guido! And thanks for the tip!
Wellcome back to shop!
Thank you!
Thank you for the review, made me a subscriber:) question please, is the Bosch powerful enough to make dados ?? Thanks again mate!
Thanks Shahar. I would say so, yes. But the relatively small base and the shape - which makes it hard to hold it with two hands - would limit the width of the dados, I’d say. I would consider it too dangerous to make dados wider than 6 - 8 mm because above that the bit creates a lot of torque and to control that you should have two handles on the machine.
Hi, could you tell me the measurement from center bit to the shortest edge?
Sure. 39 mm (on the Bosch)
thank u for this video!!!
is there a plunge base attachment available for this cordless bosch router?
I don’t think so. The design doesn’t lend itself to that.
Excellent review! You now if comes a dust collector for this machine?
Thanks.
There is no dust collector for it. The design makes it near impossible to fit one.
thanks very useful review
Glad to hear it.
Schöne Vorstellung im Video. Ich nutze den kleinen Bosch auch sehr gerne...👏👏👍
Danke für die Rückmeldung.
Would you recommend it for routing out bowties or other small shapes?
No. It’s difficult to see the tip of the router bit with this router. So I’d say you should use one that’s built different and that makes it easier to see the spot where it’s cutting.
@@holzhandwerk_ak wow didn´t really expect an answer. Thank you Andreas! Love your videos.
@nickmagma7745 thanks !
Thanks Andreas. First time Ive watched a pre vlog advert right to the end, seems amazing invention. Bosch trim router will save endless bit changes as the roundover edge is something I use a lot and changing in a 1/2 “ router and back to another cutter is time consuming. Regards to you and those around you , Stuart from the UK.👍
Yes, that’s exactly the use case that I have for it myself. Just having it there ready to use is great -and for this price it’s ok as an additional machine.
Schön, dass Du wieder da bist. Hauptsache, es geht Dir und den Deinen gut. Freue mich sehr auf neue Videos.
Vielen Dank Peter!
Nice to have you back mate !!!
Thanks for your kind words - I’m also glad to be making videos again.
For my woodworking I needed some smaller tools. I went for the Bosch 12v platform because only Bosch has a compact planer and router in their line up. Seemed more desinged for woodworking then the other brands. Normaly I buy other brands cordless toolbrands and I had some doubts about Bosch. Stressfull moments, bying in to a different batteryplatform. After reading all the positive reviews and comments on videos like this one, my doubts dissapeared and I bought this trimmer together with 3 other tools from their 12v line. ....sorry guys, I don't know what you consider to be 'professional', or 'heavy duty' (both printed on the machines) but it's defenitly not the bosch 12v line. This trimmer is a nice toy, and thats it. To flimsy, to weak to be BLUE. This should have been a GREEN bosch and it would be acceptable. Its a cheap build: Check 2:53: slider is not smooth, not even when new without dust, at 3: 25, fine hight adjusting with your finger next to the cuttingblade? No view over your workpiece, the base is lose, even with the locknut tight, its just not powerfull enough for the woods I work with . Sad to see the qualitybrands being degraded to toys, encoraged by payed reviews and amateur users to produce more rubbish. Professionals need stronger stuff. some of us work outside: sand, rain, sawdust, heat from the sun... Bosch can't cope with all that.
I haven’t used lock nuts but it’s a good idea I will look into. Thanks!
slider aint smooth....give it a good clean and a drop of oil.... same for the micro adjust and its as good as new.12v line is 12v not sure wht u expect from that rly its a trim router...........why would u even use that in sand
ain.... u wanter power 18v ofc. Carpenter for 20years newer had any issues whit my blue bosch line both corded-18v12v. Same for the dewalt 4 that matter (even in the rain ;)
Do you know if this battery is compatible with Milwaukee M12? Regards from Brasil.
Sorry, I have no idea - you should do research into the general battery systems of Bosch and Milwaukee.
I love Bosch Blue Tools 🤠
Thanks for watching Sumo!
Is the 12v router good enough to cut rabbet?
Yes.
its a great design, at just 12v i'd worry its a little underpowered. i keep a cheap katsu trim router which is essentially a makita knockoff, it was cheap , around 40 euros, and i use it as a freehand router for edges etc. im planning on a larger triton in a table for other jobs. i know what you mean about those routers being top heavy, i think a cordless model would be even more top heavy. thanks for the review, but ill stick with my cheap katsu ;0)
Those are perfectly good reasons to stick with your setup. Thanks for the feedback.
Hi Andreas, excellent video as usual! Just a quick question, I have just bought a Bosch GSB120 lightweight drill/driver that comes with 1.5Ah batteries and a charger but was thinking of buying the router you have featured here. I realise that 1.5Ah may not be powerful enough for even trim routing so do you know if the standard charger would charge 2Ah batteries and above?
Thank you. As far as I know, chargers work with all batteries that fit into them.
@@holzhandwerk_ak apologies for the delay and many thanks. Happy New Year!
@@carlwaine5263 I wish you the same!
what could happen: battery emtpies, you left the device on (!) and change battery...quite possible isn't it ;)
No, the machine is protected against that. When you insert the battery with the switch in "On" position, it won’t run until you switch it off and then on again.
Good presentation, but I don't agree with your view, personally I favour Makita 18v/36v but like seeing any innovation from other manufacturers.
Not beening able to easily see the cut is a BIG negative, not having a straight edge guide another negative. But designing a tool that places the hands near the cutter well Bosh throw out OH&S and as far as I'm concerned. This tool can join the bin with the idiots who invented the chainsaw grinder disc which is now banned in the UK and many other countries.
(revs [revolutions] per minute. Rounds per minute is only for guns!)
Thanks for the tip.
The supposed "need to see" the router bit whilst standing up is simply not possible with a machine of this design, therefore this can hardly be considered to be a drawback of the machine!
One either recognises and respects the reasons for this configuration or one doesn't!
Unequalled stability, ergonomics and weight reduction (this machine weighs 5 times less than the Bosch 600 Router!) in a cordless package is what the designers sought to achieve (and which they succeeded!) and that criteria established the overall height of the machine and the distance between the housing and the router bit.
It's primarily an edge trimmer, as established by the design, and in which capacity it excels in.
Thanks for your comment. It was not meant as a general criticism - I understand that there are design restraints. Still, I think in a review I should mention it so that people interested in the machine now this aspect.