@@user-mm8ei9nx4oirl he was actually set to take the throne. Sulieman moved Mustafa from Manisa to Amasya and gave it to Mehmet. Even in Sulieman’s Eulogy to Mehmet he addressed him as Sultan Mehmet. Sulieman had always intended for Mehmet to take his throne, it was confirmed by his council members as well
@@icedboba1446 This was Suleiman's perspective, and it's not necessarily proof that Mehmed actually deserved the throne. That's what I was talking about, "Mehemd being better than them all."
Your words are true. Unlike the next comment. Mahidervan tried to poison Hurrem when she was pregnant with Mehmet. Then sh3 sent Ilyas to kill him. The snake didn't work so he gave him a disease on MAHIDERVANS order.
@@winirogan9530 mahidevran didn't try to kill Mehmet she tried to kill hurrem as hurrem did with others Maria isablle firuze nadia and lots She sent ilyas like hurrem sent efsun gulizar abd othes Mahi saved Mehmet when his mother neglected him you double standards are high
@@Aliaakarammshe didn't abandon him she left him with servants....and yes mahi did sent posion to the Sultans table with the motive of kill hurrem but she was heavily pregnant with mehmet.... besides hurrem protect Mustafa in when there was a rebel
i know Many time mahi do wrong but Sultan always love Mehmet more then mustafa like he dream about mehmet was is in throne with many light but mustafa in throne with some blood stuff & he always think mustafa will rebels against him afraid that he kill his others sons
Mehmed saved Mustafa but Mahidevran killed Mehmed later Mustafa saved Selim from janessarries and Hurrem killed Mustafa.. what a game for throne.. unbelievable politics😂
Not really. Mehmet was really agreeable. Also hurrem was attacking mustafa non stop poisoning, killing efsun n his child, making him lose manisa. Mahidevran just tried to buy more time n spoil hurrems plans
If Mehmet was alive it would change a lot in the history he is someone who would be on the throne and yet act like he isn't the king he was perfect more perfect than mustafa
Some jokers be like shehzade mehmet was more perfect than Mustafa Lol man History tells everyone knows and at that time everyone wanted Mustafa to be the Sultan He was most peefect shehzada of automan empire Even mehmet also knew that If mustafa could accend the throne the hstry will different
I genuinely don't mean this as an insult, but the scene with the tear is one of many that has made me think Hurrem, Suleiman, and Hatice all have magic abilities, one of the biggest being prophecy
What I could never understand about this empire is that they want Son's. But when one son becomes Sultan,he have to kill his brothers. So whats the point,also Mustafa loved his brothers but if he became Sultan,Hurrem sons would have died because of Mahid grudge against Hurrem. I think if Mhmed became Sultan,I dont think Mehmed would allow Mustafa to be hurt. Because Hurrem really only wanted Suliman to Sultan
@Dreamfyre you're all wrong, mahidevran didn't let mehmet be killed, in real life he died of a disease! this series just made it shine that way, but it’s not true! Read some books about history, don't learn it from the movies!
@@aysunucar3746 and in real life there was also no evidence of a conspiracy behind Mustafa's betrayal, but in the series they made it look like that. Irl Mustafa wasn't that close with his siblings, and he wasn't close with Cihangir. Cihangir died because of a chronic illness he had since birth, not because of sadness. So yeah, the series here is fiction inspired by real history events.
Algunas personas que comentan por aquí tienen poco o nada de conocimiento histórico. Y de vida aun menos, según parece. Ponerse en la piel del otro y mirar detalles antes de comentar cualquier chorrada podría ayudar. Saludos
And Hurrem was also poisoned by Mahidevran when she was near due with Mehmed. Not to mention Suleiman could've also been poisoned if he took a bite of the dessert.
@@Sof2098 hurrem was not innocent, she killed a lot of concubines, she tortured firozey hatun, she kidnapped Isabel if Mahidevra did the same thing, so Mahidevra was evil? How hurrem was innocent? Hurrem was conspiratorial and cruel. Hurrem's conspiracies, hunger for power and cruelty are more than Mahidevra.
Suleyman when something happens to his family with Hurrem - it must be Mustafa. Suleyman when something happens to Mustafa - of course it's not Hurrem or my other children,they all love Mustafa,how dare anyone think such a thing. 😂🤦♀️🤷♀️
@Dreamfyre The discussion is about Suleyman here,Mahi and Hurrem naturally are gonna think on each other when something bad happens while Suleyman's behavior is illogical.
@Dreamfyre OMG poor Hurrem..it's not like Hurrem really wants them dead right?? I repeat again im talking about SULEYMAN'S behavior,but you HAVE to bring up how bad everyone is to poor innocent Hurrem in a comment that doesn't concern her in the slightest?? Hurrem fanatizm is a freaking disease,i never encountered even one logical unbiased Hurrem fan ever.
@@leylaaydn7192 what's illogical is to blame Hurrem for every mistake on their part, they don't even understand the concept of taking responsibility for their actions. Mustafa: * does something major and stupid without permission in his province * Mahidevran, Hatice, Shah, Gulfem, Beyhan, Fatma, Ibrahim, Nigar: it's Hurrem's fault! Get a grip. All of them together don't have enough intellect and cleverness to match her. Maybe only Ibrahim, but eventually he did drown in his own ego, narcissism, and greediness.
And Mahidevran didn't think twice before poisoning Hurrem and her almost due child Mehmed. Or almost poisoning the Sultan. Or threatening her that she would torture and kill her children before her eyes and then murder her as well, when Suleiman was in a coma. Really?
One thing which give me joy is that hurrem did all the mess just for a good life but she didnt get a single moment of peace in her whole life........... Happy to see that ...... Just hatw hurrem😡😡
Que odias a Hürrem? Y eso? La conociste y te ha hecho daño? Vaya hombre! Pues imaginate tu, el que la odia, que tienes una hija de 8 - 10 años de edad que te la secuestran. La venden, la convierten en una ESCLAVA y la regalan para que sea la "propiedad" del sultán ... Y sola en un mundo totalmente diferente al suyo, sin familia, tiene que buscarse la vida y tiene la "suerte" de que el sultan mismo se enamoré de ella y ella de el... Pues imaginate que esta es la historia de tu hija... Que quieres para ella? Que siga los pasos de Hürrem, que se quite la vida o que siga siendo una esclava a merced de qualquiera que esta en una posición superior y le de órdenes?
Please, your childish hatred is exposing your stupidity. Go learn the proper history of why Hurrem is one of the best women and sultanas to exist instead of watching short videos and making ridiculous assumptions. Fyi, she lived a happy life with her loyal and powerful husband (unlike what he's portrayed in the show), and she died peacefully in the arms of her lover.
We all knows that Mehmed deserve the throne in this fiction and IRL
You literally can't know about irl because even history can't answer this
No
@@user-mm8ei9nx4oirl he was actually set to take the throne. Sulieman moved Mustafa from Manisa to Amasya and gave it to Mehmet. Even in Sulieman’s Eulogy to Mehmet he addressed him as Sultan Mehmet. Sulieman had always intended for Mehmet to take his throne, it was confirmed by his council members as well
@@icedboba1446 This was Suleiman's perspective, and it's not necessarily proof that Mehmed actually deserved the throne. That's what I was talking about, "Mehemd being better than them all."
@@user-mm8ei9nx4o true but even Sulieman’s retainers and other government officials agreed that Mehmet would’ve made an excellent sultan
Mehmed saved Mustafa s life. But mahidavran killed mehmed😢😢
Mehmet didn't save any one
Mahidevran saved baby Mehmet
Hurrem sent efsun and gulizar to mustafa
That's how it goes
Fake
Your words are true. Unlike the next comment. Mahidervan tried to poison Hurrem when she was pregnant with Mehmet. Then sh3 sent Ilyas to kill him. The snake didn't work so he gave him a disease on MAHIDERVANS order.
@@winirogan9530 mahidevran didn't try to kill Mehmet she tried to kill hurrem as hurrem did with others Maria isablle firuze nadia and lots
She sent ilyas like hurrem sent efsun gulizar abd othes
Mahi saved Mehmet when his mother neglected him you double standards are high
@@Aliaakarammshe didn't abandon him she left him with servants....and yes mahi did sent posion to the Sultans table with the motive of kill hurrem but she was heavily pregnant with mehmet.... besides hurrem protect Mustafa in when there was a rebel
The funny thing is that if Mahi left Mehmet alone Mustafa would've been alive. His brother's love would've kept him safe.
Not true
No he wouldn’t, Hürrem had been trying to kill Mustafa.
@@quintessence3206 both mother's greedy both sons ded
i know Many time mahi do wrong but Sultan always love Mehmet more then mustafa like he dream about mehmet was is in throne with many light but mustafa in throne with some blood stuff & he always think mustafa will rebels against him afraid that he kill his others sons
Mehmet is first son from woman he loved, what did you expect
Mehmed saved Mustafa but Mahidevran killed Mehmed later Mustafa saved Selim from janessarries and Hurrem killed Mustafa.. what a game for throne.. unbelievable politics😂
For once Mahideran was innocent and concerned
Yeah cause the arrow was meant for Mustafa 😂
Because hurrem meant mustafa her son git it wronglly
@@Aliaakarammshe was not involved in what happened to mustafa
@@wwanca3771 she was
No she wasn't. A rug maker wanted to marry a girl who mustafa brought to the palace. so he sent someone to shoot him. Hurren was not involved in this.
Biggest mistake was that mahidevran killed mehmed. Mehmed would have been alive, he would have supported mustafa.
Not really. Mehmet was really agreeable. Also hurrem was attacking mustafa non stop poisoning, killing efsun n his child, making him lose manisa. Mahidevran just tried to buy more time n spoil hurrems plans
Not really Mehmet was a toy in hurrems hand ..neven bajazid and chihangir love didn't save him..hurrem wanted him dead
If Mehmet was alive it would change a lot in the history he is someone who would be on the throne and yet act like he isn't the king he was perfect more perfect than mustafa
I frequently read that Suleiman intended for Mehmet to be heir.
Mehmet more perfect than Mustafa?
Just in your dreams
Lol
Some jokers be like shehzade mehmet was more perfect than Mustafa
Lol man
History tells everyone knows and at that time everyone wanted Mustafa to be the Sultan
He was most peefect shehzada of automan empire
Even mehmet also knew that
If mustafa could accend the throne the hstry will different
6:49 Hurrem called mehmet “sultan”❤️🔥
Which if done by mahi would be betrayal according to you.
Even Sulaiman called Mehmet "Most distinguished of princes, my Sultan Mehmet". Sulaiman and Hurrem both knew who they wanted on throne.
Dear Mehmet, so pure...
mehmet was the only one who fully deserved the throne
I genuinely don't mean this as an insult, but the scene with the tear is one of many that has made me think Hurrem, Suleiman, and Hatice all have magic abilities, one of the biggest being prophecy
What I could never understand about this empire is that they want Son's. But when one son becomes Sultan,he have to kill his brothers. So whats the point,also Mustafa loved his brothers but if he became Sultan,Hurrem sons would have died because of Mahid grudge against Hurrem. I think if Mhmed became Sultan,I dont think Mehmed would allow Mustafa to be hurt. Because Hurrem really only wanted Suliman to Sultan
Mahidervan also told Hurrem she would kill her children before Hurrem was killed. I think it was episode 47.
Lesson.for sulaiman who keep so.many women ...😂
Just look the attitude of sulieman with mustafa,just hate him
Mahidevran kills mehmet🥲
Hurrem tried to kill mustafa here and her son was hit
@Dreamfyre thankfully gihangir paid 😁
@Dreamfyre you're all wrong, mahidevran didn't let mehmet be killed, in real life he died of a disease! this series just made it shine that way, but it’s not true! Read some books about history, don't learn it from the movies!
@@aysunucar3746 and in real life there was also no evidence of a conspiracy behind Mustafa's betrayal, but in the series they made it look like that. Irl Mustafa wasn't that close with his siblings, and he wasn't close with Cihangir. Cihangir died because of a chronic illness he had since birth, not because of sadness. So yeah, the series here is fiction inspired by real history events.
Algunas personas que comentan por aquí tienen poco o nada de conocimiento histórico.
Y de vida aun menos, según parece.
Ponerse en la piel del otro y mirar detalles antes de comentar cualquier chorrada podría ayudar. Saludos
I don't like the way hurrem shouted at mahidevran here she wasn't at fault here.
Like they sjouted at her for everything
Suleiman should be ashamed of himself. Immediately accusing Mustafa. Worst father ever. Always making the wrong assumption. Stupid Ottoman.
In love with hurrem he lost his heart of a father
Believing every single fake news about mustafa without judging him
Donkey. Kong suleiman can't see that Mustafa never kill his siblings
*Mustafa was also poisoned by hurrem through efsun*
And Hurrem was also poisoned by Mahidevran when she was near due with Mehmed. Not to mention Suleiman could've also been poisoned if he took a bite of the dessert.
@@Sof2098 hurrem was not innocent, she killed a lot of concubines, she tortured firozey hatun, she kidnapped Isabel if Mahidevra did the same thing, so Mahidevra was evil? How hurrem was innocent? Hurrem was conspiratorial and cruel. Hurrem's conspiracies, hunger for power and cruelty are more than Mahidevra.
13:55 what "problem" they talking about ?
World history would be so different had he lived
Suleyman when something happens to his family with Hurrem - it must be Mustafa.
Suleyman when something happens to Mustafa - of course it's not Hurrem or my other children,they all love Mustafa,how dare anyone think such a thing.
😂🤦♀️🤷♀️
@Dreamfyre The discussion is about Suleyman here,Mahi and Hurrem naturally are gonna think on each other when something bad happens while Suleyman's behavior is illogical.
@Dreamfyre OMG poor Hurrem..it's not like Hurrem really wants them dead right??
I repeat again im talking about SULEYMAN'S behavior,but you HAVE to bring up how bad everyone is to poor innocent Hurrem in a comment that doesn't concern her in the slightest??
Hurrem fanatizm is a freaking disease,i never encountered even one logical unbiased Hurrem fan ever.
@@leylaaydn7192 what's illogical is to blame Hurrem for every mistake on their part, they don't even understand the concept of taking responsibility for their actions.
Mustafa: * does something major and stupid without permission in his province *
Mahidevran, Hatice, Shah, Gulfem, Beyhan, Fatma, Ibrahim, Nigar: it's Hurrem's fault!
Get a grip. All of them together don't have enough intellect and cleverness to match her. Maybe only Ibrahim, but eventually he did drown in his own ego, narcissism, and greediness.
❤❤ пмниух
😢😢😢mehmet ni deb rossa yig‘labman, ammo afsus bu tarix, bu bo‘lgan voqea, afsus😢😢😢
Sulaiman was just a toy of hurrem.............
The fact is that Hurrem been poisoned the Sultan by her words about everyone around him
Wow hurrem is so concerned about her son 😮she didn't think twice before poisoning mustafa because of women's harem politics. Really?
And Mahidevran didn't think twice before poisoning Hurrem and her almost due child Mehmed. Or almost poisoning the Sultan. Or threatening her that she would torture and kill her children before her eyes and then murder her as well, when Suleiman was in a coma. Really?
One thing which give me joy is that hurrem did all the mess just for a good life but she didnt get a single moment of peace in her whole life........... Happy to see that ...... Just hatw hurrem😡😡
Nah she lived a very happy life. Sulaiman never cheated on her. They had 6 kids.
Que odias a Hürrem? Y eso? La conociste y te ha hecho daño?
Vaya hombre!
Pues imaginate tu, el que la odia, que tienes una hija de 8 - 10 años de edad que te la secuestran.
La venden, la convierten en una ESCLAVA y la regalan para que sea la "propiedad" del sultán ...
Y sola en un mundo totalmente diferente al suyo, sin familia, tiene que buscarse la vida y tiene la "suerte" de que el sultan mismo se enamoré de ella y ella de el...
Pues imaginate que esta es la historia de tu hija...
Que quieres para ella? Que siga los pasos de Hürrem, que se quite la vida o que siga siendo una esclava a merced de qualquiera que esta en una posición superior y le de órdenes?
Please, your childish hatred is exposing your stupidity. Go learn the proper history of why Hurrem is one of the best women and sultanas to exist instead of watching short videos and making ridiculous assumptions. Fyi, she lived a happy life with her loyal and powerful husband (unlike what he's portrayed in the show), and she died peacefully in the arms of her lover.
👏👏
If ever there were two brothers that loved each other dearly it was Mehmed and Mustafa. To bad their mothers hated each other.