Ah, the Specter! Hopefully, they'll buff it soon. There are a few guilds running this support under-the-radar build that are dominating and using it. As long as the general population doesn't fully understand how it works, it gives the rest of us a good advantage. Best of luck on the next reset! 😊
12:11 gravity well remove 2 of the stab stack, cause generally your running through it with 15 stacks of stab, so u come out of it with 13 stab, or using getting a stun break if u where stripped and getting ur 15 stab renewed. Gravity well's garbage against comp'd groups, but fun cloud that doesn't use stab. Time warp OP.
Virt strip secondary DPS, specter barrier, daredevil vault, and core warrior primary DPS are also A tier for group wvw. Spector is C tier versus Zerk burst.
Also I think you should post a more detailed rotation on chrono, and explain how to properly use continuum Split. A lot of people screw it up when first trying to learn chrono.
@ not many people play strip chrono, because its more ideal to have a Rene to give assisted stab,alac, pulls, and strips. and a scourge to strip,pulls, and give barrier. I’m not sure what servers or tier you play in, but you rarely see 2 chronos per party in the NA tiers. Because what are you giving up in the party to actually slot them in?
It really depends , we take some secondary support but you rarely see a secondary per party. So we have like 2 Chrono, 1 scourge, 1 rene and 1 dps, but sometimes we have 1 secondary or 1 more dps instead of a Chrono
Specter is very strong, way underrated. People just don’t know how to play it properly yet. But there is some guilds already running 1 per line. The perfect party now is actually Chrono-Rene-Scourge-Zerk(or)Holo, then scrapper. Then you can put in 1 squad healer Druid over scrapper in one party, then possibly 1 tempest as well. After the nerf the DH, it’s not quite as good as Zerk and Holo. I know that’s a lot of support per line, and requires S tier players on damage classes, but that is what the best guilds are doing right now. I hope to honestly see barrier nerfed soon, I think that would balance a lot of things.
I think scrapper should be higher, certainly better than all other secondary support, and frankly I'd take one over a firebrand these days as chrono has so much stability and scrapper provides so much other stuff. its incredibly good. condi cleanse is unmatched you dont have to even think about it, fully ranged and targetless support so fully mobile (with no awkward to hit stuff like firebrand), huge healing and barrier throughput and superspeed.
I’d argue that dd tempest out cleanses scrapper all day long. Lacks the barrier and superspeed but provides auras, better burst healing, and revive glyph which are incredible. They are solidly tied for first place for secondary support. Druid is definitely below both but still great. Also wish you commented on specter. It’s solid A tier now.
Scrapper is still S tier for me. Big cleanses so you have super strong sustain when fighting sieged objectives. Big heals with Karakosa relic. Some stab to help your other support. Some superspeed and barrier aplication is also solid. And Purity of Purpose still feels strong in my opinion.
Kind of good but i really think scrapper is S tier. It's brings just too many things. I have played recently a lot both in really good comp zerg and also lower performance zergs and things are always the same : the more scrapper u have, the better things will happen.
3:29 Firebrand versus chono in group wvw. FB has 4 party stun breaks and reflects and chrono has 1 stun break and no reflects. Reflects wheren't important because everyone avoided having their damage reflected back in their face when FB was meta, now you can go ham with engi mortar 1111 and chono's can't do anything about it. Shhh...keep the lack of reflects secret we don't want ranged ppl coming out of stealth and downing a zerg for laughs. The chrono your using has 0 party stun breaks, because u didn't trait the F4. Chrono's S-tier until ppl start learning that ranged isn't reflected anymore, then it's drops to A.
You won't even scratch the barrier from zerg on range bro, chrono is played bcs he can reapply stab 7 times bcs renegades will shred your stab like paper
@@juli9019 One soultbeast doing 30k burst to 5 ppl and downing 3. th-cam.com/video/SYrfzp-XaMo/w-d-xo.html Reflects prevent this and much more worse things. But don't worry, range dps is a secret.
@@juli9019 I guess 30k x5 ppl from one Ranged is a "scratch", the same burst damage from one dagger/GS power Berserker do. Chrono w/precog (most take illu not precog) gives 25% more stab than FB and half as much as Rene. There are unexpected things when you switch meta and we Iterate. Groups take chrono because of quickness (chrono put out more than twice that of FB).
Thank you as always for your analysis and insight. Cheers!
Ah, the Specter! Hopefully, they'll buff it soon. There are a few guilds running this support under-the-radar build that are dominating and using it. As long as the general population doesn't fully understand how it works, it gives the rest of us a good advantage. Best of luck on the next reset! 😊
Great update. Thanks!
specing heavier into invi is also a good choice for chrono
Great video as always @metallone ❤
12:11 gravity well remove 2 of the stab stack, cause generally your running through it with 15 stacks of stab, so u come out of it with 13 stab, or using getting a stun break if u where stripped and getting ur 15 stab renewed. Gravity well's garbage against comp'd groups, but fun cloud that doesn't use stab. Time warp OP.
Virt strip secondary DPS, specter barrier, daredevil vault, and core warrior primary DPS are also A tier for group wvw. Spector is C tier versus Zerk burst.
Always useful, thank you!
Also I think you should post a more detailed rotation on chrono, and explain how to properly use continuum Split. A lot of people screw it up when first trying to learn chrono.
@@jonalive84 i will probably have to do a couple vids for Chrono, one for strip one for support
@ not many people play strip chrono, because its more ideal to have a Rene to give assisted stab,alac, pulls, and strips. and a scourge to strip,pulls, and give barrier. I’m not sure what servers or tier you play in, but you rarely see 2 chronos per party in the NA tiers. Because what are you giving up in the party to actually slot them in?
It really depends , we take some secondary support but you rarely see a secondary per party. So we have like 2 Chrono, 1 scourge, 1 rene and 1 dps, but sometimes we have 1 secondary or 1 more dps instead of a Chrono
Specter is very strong, way underrated. People just don’t know how to play it properly yet. But there is some guilds already running 1 per line. The perfect party now is actually Chrono-Rene-Scourge-Zerk(or)Holo, then scrapper. Then you can put in 1 squad healer Druid over scrapper in one party, then possibly 1 tempest as well. After the nerf the DH, it’s not quite as good as Zerk and Holo. I know that’s a lot of support per line, and requires S tier players on damage classes, but that is what the best guilds are doing right now. I hope to honestly see barrier nerfed soon, I think that would balance a lot of things.
specter with pistol/pistol on barrier spamming?
@ scepter/pistol
@ some squads run one per line, but really 1-2 a squad is suffice
Thank you very much!!👍
I think scrapper should be higher, certainly better than all other secondary support, and frankly I'd take one over a firebrand these days as chrono has so much stability and scrapper provides so much other stuff. its incredibly good. condi cleanse is unmatched you dont have to even think about it, fully ranged and targetless support so fully mobile (with no awkward to hit stuff like firebrand), huge healing and barrier throughput and superspeed.
@@cameirusisu1024 Scrapper is one of the few 2ndary still played, and it's still the best, but you don't see 10 scrappers per squad anymore
@@metallonegw2283 depends on where you play. In sweaty zerg fights you'll see a scrapper in every party
I’d argue that dd tempest out cleanses scrapper all day long. Lacks the barrier and superspeed but provides auras, better burst healing, and revive glyph which are incredible. They are solidly tied for first place for secondary support. Druid is definitely below both but still great. Also wish you commented on specter. It’s solid A tier now.
@jp104 i need to play specter a bit
Scrapper is still S tier for me. Big cleanses so you have super strong sustain when fighting sieged objectives. Big heals with Karakosa relic. Some stab to help your other support. Some superspeed and barrier aplication is also solid. And Purity of Purpose still feels strong in my opinion.
@@Knifecore1 yeah scrapper is the best 2ndary atm
Tempest meh, C tier in groups, it creates burning aura's for 200 tickle damage ticks that gets converted into aegis which blocks zerks burst too much.
Kind of good but i really think scrapper is S tier. It's brings just too many things. I have played recently a lot both in really good comp zerg and also lower performance zergs and things are always the same : the more scrapper u have, the better things will happen.
@@morrayhak1855 Indeed , Scrapper is the superior secondary support
How to send you that "English Phonetics" book ? stop that "RRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrroar"
@@olegonyxov8733 i'll fix it
@@metallonegw2283 👍
3:29 Firebrand versus chono in group wvw. FB has 4 party stun breaks and reflects and chrono has 1 stun break and no reflects. Reflects wheren't important because everyone avoided having their damage reflected back in their face when FB was meta, now you can go ham with engi mortar 1111 and chono's can't do anything about it. Shhh...keep the lack of reflects secret we don't want ranged ppl coming out of stealth and downing a zerg for laughs.
The chrono your using has 0 party stun breaks, because u didn't trait the F4.
Chrono's S-tier until ppl start learning that ranged isn't reflected anymore, then it's drops to A.
You won't even scratch the barrier from zerg on range bro, chrono is played bcs he can reapply stab 7 times bcs renegades will shred your stab like paper
@@juli9019 One soultbeast doing 30k burst to 5 ppl and downing 3.
th-cam.com/video/SYrfzp-XaMo/w-d-xo.html
Reflects prevent this and much more worse things. But don't worry, range dps is a secret.
@@juli9019 I guess 30k x5 ppl from one Ranged is a "scratch", the same burst damage from one dagger/GS power Berserker do. Chrono w/precog (most take illu not precog) gives 25% more stab than FB and half as much as Rene. There are unexpected things when you switch meta and we Iterate.
Groups take chrono because of quickness (chrono put out more than twice that of FB).