Polo 6R DIY - 288mm Big Brake Kit Upgrade - Replacing Front Brake Discs and Callipers
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In today's video, I install a brand new OEM 288mm Big Brake Kit made by ATE brakes on the Polo 6R which is still sold in India with the C54 calliper system. This same calliper does duty on Polo, Vento and Skoda Rapid and comes with a 256mm Brake Disc. This Big Brake Kit can also be tweaked to install a 310mm GTI Brake Disc for even beastly braking. Part numbers and detailed technical workflow followed will be up on my TeamBHP thread shortly.
This is NOT meant to be a detailed tutorial. Follow at your own risk.
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Parts Used :-
1. ATE Ceramic Brake Pads
2. ATE Zinc Coated Brake Rotors
3. ATE Brake Calliper Guides and Slider Pins
4. ATE Brake Pad Anti-Rattle Clip
5. Wurth Silicone Grease
6. Wurth Brake Paste
7. Brembo Dot 5.1 Brake Fluid
Tools Used :-
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2. 1/2 Inch Stanley Socket Ratchet :- amzn.to/3iz1iS7
3. Wire Brush :- amzn.to/2VFopBS
Chemicals
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2. Anti-Seize :- amzn.to/3izf3jV
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Heads off for your love and dedication towards polo 🙏🏻❤️
😍😍Power
the satisfaction of working on your own car ❤️🔥... amazing channel.. subd💥
Sujoy it was an extremely clean installation, waiting for your team-bhp thread for the in-depth review on the braking performance.
Yes hope to finish it in a day or two!
@@SujoyShivde what is the stock size of disc in POLO 1.0 TSI ?
256mm
Waww at 1:09 what an idea ji👏
Hi there, I’m planning on installing an Audi S1 discs + calipers on my 2017 1.2 Polo TSI.
Since they’re also 288mm - will it fit just like yours?
Much appreciated on the video, very clean installation!
Where are you located? Is yours a Polo 6R just like mine? There is a good chance the S1 calliper you are considering is just the same. But to be sure, please try and get part numbers of the discs, so you know it's the right part
@@SujoyShivde Indonesia. The 6Rs and 6Cs around here are basically from where you are man, and mine’s a 6C.
For your reference, these are the part numbers (manufactured by ATE and Zimmerman):
8X0615123B;
8X0615124B;
6R0615125B; and
6C0615125.
@@colikers Since you have a Polo 6R, The callipers are fine. They're the same regardless of the 288mm or 312mm disc. And the carrier part number you shared are also for 312mm. If that's cool with you, these part numbers you shared should work just fine. 6R0615125B is replaced by 6C0615125. It is a 312mm carrier.
@@SujoyShivde wow, you’re the best man. Keep up the good work and will definitely update you further on this. Thank you!!!
Which model of polo I should buy, will you do all this mods in my will be car 🙏🏻
Highline+ is a good way to start.
Hello 👋.
I'm really interested in these modifications and car stuff I have polo 1.0TSI HLP .
But I don't know much about the car mechanical knowledge can please help how to gain knowledge about these stuff you are doing.
Reading, cross-studying parts and working on other cars has helped me gain knowledge about these cars
Hi Sujoy, great work keep going !!
I too have a Polo gt tsi 2022 model, can you please advise the braking upsize upgrade ( I am currently using EBC pads on stock rotors )and what difference did you feel after installing these ?
These improved brake pedal feel, high speed braking stability. You can read more about it in depth on my TeamBHP thread about this upgrade.
@@SujoyShivde Sure I ll read your TeamBHP post. I ll request if you can Please advise for the following - I am planning for an EBC yellow stuff and a brembo rotor, is it good to go ? Stock size as these ( your ones )are not being supplied by anyone I know.
Sure, you can always upgrade to Yellow Stuff on Stock sized discs. Depends on which Brembo disc you use, because a stock replacement is going to function like a stock disk. Drilled, slotted, etc discs will fare better and improve braking but will eat pads faster. Either way, these are all cost effective than big brake kits, but none of these come close to the advantages of a better, lower maintenance braking system that the big brake kit offer. But yes, EBC Yellow stuff will definitely improve braking
@@SujoyShivde Thank you very much Sujoy. Awaiting more such videos from you.
I shall go with EBC + Brembo stock replacement or drilled. ( Main purpose is to solve the brake fade issue from EBC's once they heat up and they heat up quickly in summers)
Sujoy, you are doing a fabulous job by sharing great info for car enthusiasts 😲👍 please let me know if I can fix this in 2016 vento tsi dsg!! I am facing brake judder issue even after replacing discs... And have you faced this judder issue after upgrade??
Yes, your Vento 2016 is compatible with a big brake kit. Juddering could also be because of uneven lateral runout on your front wheel hubs. The hub needs to be cleaned and the runout needs to be checked before replacing discs each fime otherwise everytime a new disk is installed one side will have uneven wear. This is a much superior braking system, and is much stronger at braking even at higher speeds. Most of us using this brake system on OEM discs have no more juddering issues.
Great ! Why not install the removed front discs to the rear now
The front calliper system doesn't directly fit onto the rear. The rear needs a small calliper. I am considering the possibility of doing it
@@SujoyShivde Nice job !
@@SujoyShivde lets experiment on my Vento
Awesome videos as always..
Now try to bring some videos on Mods on Grand i10 petrol..
🤘😍, how about some steel braided caliper hose?
If I ever go tracking then definitely :)
For normal road use, from practicality pov steel lines as a first upgrade seems logical to extract more braking from the stock rotors. But to each his own, if money no problem yours is the way to go 👍
Hi Buddy, I was just curious to ask what lubricant you use for doors and hinges, as we all know Vw doesn’t use grease.
Hi, I haven't seen VW use a specific grease either. On our 12 year old Jetta, the doors had a slight squeak at the hinges, but I managed to sort that out with a liquid silicone grease (PetrelPlus)I found on Amazon. If not, I believe any decent bearing grease safe for metal on metal applications should be fine too.
But they do use a small can of Silicone Door and Lock spray lubricant, maybe that's what has been keeping the hinges squeak free.
I use Mannol lithium grease safe for metal on metal.
This is some quality content for Polo owners. 👏
Hi… lovely video.. could you please help me with the link to purchase this kit… appreciate if you could also help me install the same on my polo GT TSI
I have a detailed installation thread on TeamBHP about this as well. You can buy such brake kits from GermanDNA, Vagmaster India etc.
Is this better than brembo brakes ?
i wish you made a video on installation of horns the same way you have been doing for other mods.
I wish I had recorded the installation process too. It's not too hard, please let me know what difficulty you're facing. If you already bought a horn and it won't work on the existing socket, try reversing the pins of the connector and reconnect the horn.
Hello bro
Is this break Conversion helped to upgrade your breaking performance
And it’s a request to u make a separate video on it coz I want know is that worthy
Yes, it improves the brake performance. You can read about it on TeamBHP and multiple other forums. Many users have installed these and enjoy better braking than before.
Very neat Sujoy, where r u based bro?
Thanks. I'm from Pune
@@SujoyShivde where in Pune bro, wud want to pay u a visit, do share your coordinates..
@@chatarsinghpadam you can lookup the Mechanix Automotive. I work there often
That was neat and fluidic 🔥
Please make a video about the break performance
Sure will try, but it's not really necessary. It's a very very old and well documented upgrade. The performance is great.
Good work on those crisp intro and outro shots. 👌
Does it give you confidence on the brake pedal ?
The brake pedal is a lot more responsive, car stops a lot better. Brakes are better at higher speeds and also require lesser maintenance.
I’m looking to upgrade brakes on my Polo same model as yours. Can you write what brand and model of brakes did you bought?
www.team-bhp.com/forum/diy-do-yourself/240797-installing-oem-288mm-big-brake-kit-vw-polo.html I have listed parts here.
So I got '12 Ibiza ST 1.2 TSI (facelift model) with 105 PS... Can I do the same upgrade, without changing caliper carriers? My friend can give me '17 A3 8V 150 PS brakes, disks, pads
Need to check parts catalogue for fitment. Usually the carrier is different for different sized Brake discs, so it might be possible, but need to double check on parts catalogues with your VIN
Bro love your content and missed it alot ❤️❤️❤️
Whats the caliper model? And from where did you source the parts from?
All part numbers have been listed on the TeamBHP thread. What exactly do you want to know about this calliper model? You can buy such brake kits from VW Retrofit Shops in India
I am thinking of doing this on my 19 Polo TDi, running a stage 1 tune from Wolf. My car however runs a lot, approx 25k km annually. So running parts like pads & dics (to a lesser extent) needs to be easily available & relatively cheap. Which OE model brake pads are these? MK1 Laura/Octavia?
The brake disc (288mm) is cross-linked with an Octavia MK1, so should be freely available. The brake pads are the same as the Jetta Mk6, again easily available. Moreover, these should last significantly longer than OEM Polo Pads. Overall, a great purchase.
@@SujoyShivde Thanks. I guess then the calliper assy can be used from a Jetta MK6 (used or new). Only that is a bit difficult to get is the calliper carrier, right? It isn't available in India, as per what my information.!
@chiranjitp8509 yes, that's right. You can find carriers or even full kits from Instagram retrofit shops. They seem to be very readily available nowadays
@@SujoyShivde Also the brake disc part number you shared, was showing available on Boodmo. So even in the long run it should be easily available?. My Polo is a daily runner, around 25k km on average, has recently crossed 90k km.
@chiranjitp8509 The disc should be easily available. There are plenty of importers for these OEM and aftermarket service parts. It shouldn't be an issue.
Ye sir apne kis car ka use kia hai disc plate I also want to convert in big disc plate of my xuv500
Polo ka hai. It is sold abroad
Hello, I want to replace the passenger seat in my Polo 6R Comfortline 4 cylinder 1.4 85 hp from 2010 with a seat that can be folded completely flat. This while retaining the airbag function and the same plugs under the seat. Does anyone know which (VW) seats are suitable for this? Volkswagen seats from later Polo versions or other Volkswagen or non-Volkswagen seats? Any useful information regarding this subject is welcome.
You can retrofit Polo Seats. Preferably using VW Group parts, you will be able to retain the airbag and other functionality.
What size rims was you runing? 16" or 17"
16" mostly
Hello can you give me the site where you bought the carriers and calipers? I have found all the parts but i can't find the carriers
You can buy it from eBay etc
Need exact points for placing jack stands. Does the indicated points work? Or does jackstand hit running board?
The indicated points are fine for a tyre wheel jack, but perhaps not sturdy or appropriate for a jack stand. But again, it all depends on the type of your jack stand. Some have a curved cup, some have a flat end. On the Polo 6R, you can place the jackstand on a curved portion of the metal frame which is behind each front tyre. I found this appropriate for cup type jack stands, like the ones I have. It's very distant from the running boards, so there's no chance of them hitting the running board. I'll try and share a picture to give you a better idea, but it might just be present on the TeamBHP thread
@@SujoyShivde 👍, planning some major suspension Diy work . can you help with axle nut size and torque values?. Planning on sachs setup for both front and rear
How many mm were the old disk?
256mm most probably
Hi Sujoy,
Can this be done on 2022 polo 1.0 tsi. If yes, where Can I buy these.
Yes, you can install it on your car. You can buy them from @Vag.Star, Vagmaster, N2Autotech etc. or procure the parts I've listed on TeamBHP.
what is the smallest rim you can run?
15" alloy wheels can comfortably run a big brake kit too
I have a skoda fabia 2008 model, does this setup fits up in my car, please let me clear!
Depends on which brakes your car presently has. If it's an FS3 calliper, then the hub is integrated and might need replacement for a bigger brake disk.
Superb bro as always
Can you make videos where is the perfect position for jackstand in vw polo 6r, or maybe you can explain in this coment section, Big thanks from Indonesia 🇮🇩
Yes will try and do it soon.
From where did u buy the large brake kit?
Lot of sellers sell the big brake kit on Instagram etc.
@@SujoyShivdethanks alot.although m not professional,just by following your video can i replace new brakes kit by myself??
@pranjyotiboruah9325 You can look for more detailed videos also, but you won't be able to bleed the air by yourself, especially with precision, if you are doing it for the first time. If you have air in the system, you won't have stopping power, or basically you'll have no brakes to drive the car around. For that reason, better to have it done with an expert mechanic/garage if you don't know what you'd be doing
Hey bro is this the oem GTI BBK? I'm going stage 3 soon so planning to get the same may I know what was the total price 🤔
Yes, it's an OEM BBK. You can install this with either 312mm brakes or 288mm brakes. Pricing depends on where you buy your parts, e.g. if they're used or new calipers, etc. I have a list of parts and rough kit pricimh for all components on my TeamBHP thread. You end up saving money depending on what parts you can find locally etc. Sellers in India sell a kit like this for about 50k, that includes refurbished calipers and carriers. Hope this helps.
@@SujoyShivde thanks for the information bro may I know your insta I'll text you there??
@fluidicjoy
Bro please mention the part numbers for the same.. I am from New Delhi .
And why didn't you opted for drilled bbk?
Yes will share all part numbers on TBHP. Drilled rotors are expensive, and not a huge benefit for daily driving. Further drilled rotors are more susceptible to cracking and can eat pads unless they're meant for tracking. Plus, VW doesn't offer drilled rotors as an OEM upgrade for Polo. So considering these tradeoffs, I opted against drilled rotors. The brake system has been chosen in such a way that VW will be able to service it without a hiccup, in the event some parts need replacement in the future.
@@SujoyShivde ok buddy then I must say great option to which you have opted for.
Please do mentione the part number and prices asap. I am considering it for my 1.6 tdi vento
Hey dude, what did you do with your brake dust shield?
Did you buy a bigger one ?
When I tried to change my brake disc, the brake dust shield was hitting the brake disc =/
Hi, I replaced the old with a new one. Part number listed on TeamBHP. You can see the removal and reinstallation in the video. The ideal way is replacing the dust shield, but some folks also end up bending the stock shield to improve clearance.
Nice 🔥 Looking forward to some tech and travel videos now
Hey, Is that a sunset red or flash red ?? (Car)
It's a Sunset Red. Might look different on camera because of the nature of the edit. The calipers are close to flash red though, in their factory finish. You can have a look on my TeamBHP thread for better quality pictures of my car.
hi, i have polo gt 2018 with c54 caliper system that is 256 mm disc the stock ones.. will i be able to upgrade it with a skoda octavia mk1 brake system? i have heard people fitting in vrs calipers but not sure if the mk1 octavia will fit in. can u pls help? thanks
Yes you might be, if the caliper carrier fits. I've heard so too.
will it give me much difference?will that be a big brake kit?
@@SujoyShivde
If it's a bigger disc, you got a big brake upgrade.
Bro, you can install 312mm brake discs on polo
Yeah you can, using a different calliper carrier. I went with 288 for proper brake coding.
How much would this upgrade cost ??
Depends on the parts you use, but 35-50k is a good range depending on new Vs used parts.
What's the cost of big brake kit set?
Depends on where you buy it from and the condition of your brake kit. Remanufactured brake kits (callipers and carriers) are about 25k while brand new ones are slightly more expensive at about 30-34k. Disc and Pads depends on which ones you find. Please check the link in the description, has a breakup of parts used and needed
Any calibration is required after this for ABS or other stability pr?ograms
Yes. For ESP equipped cars coding is necessary.
@@SujoyShivde Hello Sujoy, Glad to watch this video once again, I have been watching and reading your content. I have a 1.0 TSI Manual Highline, Does it comes with ESP? Also, all the parts with the numbers you mentioned can be sourced from VW Service Center or directly from ATE ?
The ODO is 20k + on my polo and 95% of my drives are on the highway, recently I found the steering is wobbling when I hit the brakes at 100 kmph or more. I believe it is not a common thing in Polo, I thought there is something wrong with the rotors. If at all I have to change the rotors then I would like to go with the upgrade you have done. Please advice
@@bobby8104 Hi, no the 1.0 TSI manual does not come with ESP. You can try and source them from ATE or from resellers in India. Try looking on 4yourdrive, they have a few brake upgrade kits too. Wobbling steering on braking could be due to front rotors having uneven wear. This is a great upgrade nevertheless
Do we need to change the caliper holding bracket also?
Yes naturally, entirely a different part.
@@SujoyShivde I have Laura manual it has 280mm disc.. I want to install laura AT's which comes with 288mm disc. Do i need to change the carrier ?... Also it has wear indicator sensor, shall i cut it off?
@@dieselhead5891 sorry, I haven’t looked at brake options for a Laura to tell you if 280 vs 288mm is the same hardware. As for the wear indicator sensor, if you don’t plan to retrofit it, you can safely cut it off.
What is that you applied before fitting the rotor?
It's a Metal-Metal anti-seize lubricant. Read about it in detail on my TeamBHP post
Was this done on a 15inc or 16inc wheel ?
This is a 16 inch wheel, 288mm big brake kit is fine even on the 15 inch rim size. Anything larger and the clearance is naturally lesser, but it has been done by many folks anyway
@@SujoyShivde great 👍 thanks, any ATE dealer suggestions on Bangalore location
Please can you explain from where can i source it in delhi
Lot of Instagram sellers sell it pan India
Please can u suggest me one
And the items I will need for my polo highline+ 1.0tsi mt
I also want to upgrade my front brakes
Your videos are very informative and interesting
ATE Brake Calliper Guides and Slider Pins part no..
Please checkout my post on TeamBHP. There's a complete list of part numbers.
Hi which set is this and should I fix it on my polo 1.2 2017 model
It's an OEM Big Brake Kit. If it's a PQ25 Polo 6R, then yes, this Brake Kit would fit just fine on your car. You can go for it if you need better brakes
@@SujoyShivde how should I buy this any description and or detail like online
@@pointzeromac5814 plenty of sellers on Instagram like Vagstar, N2Autotech, GermanDNA, etc.
@@SujoyShivde ok bro thank u so much
Bro where to buy these ceramic break disc
Mostly from abroad. But some tuners and performance shops might keep these in India as well
Great content , amazing retrofit 😍❤️
How much does it cost brother
Depends on your retrofit shop and your part quality, can range from 30-60k
This is gold🔥
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What car the red calipers are from ?
Quite a few cars, Jetta, Golf GTI etc.
How much does it cost for a BBK kit
Depends from seller to seller, depends on what kind of discs and pads, calipers (new or reconditioned) you buy. 40-60k is a fair estimate
U should have installed it in rear it would be better with 4discs and looks good too
You cannot just install any random disc and calliper carrier to the rear. OEMs make brake systems and electronic systems with a calculation of brake sizes, weight bias etc. Polo 6R does come with an OEM rear brake disc option but a factory level installation ideally requires a new axle, OEM rear brake callipers, new hand brake cables, hand brake levers and a few more parts. For a street daily driven car, a rear brake kit is unnecessary. This front big brake kit was done for better brakes and not for the aesthetics, and a front upgrade serves that purpose of improved braking just fine. 😀
@@SujoyShivde does the brake pad wear indicator works i saw a wiring coming from your brake pads i think there is no wiring given in stock polo for brake pad wear indication in instument cluster can you make a video on that its very helpful
You're right, I've wired in a Brake Pad Wear sensor. Sure will try and make a video or a post about this small retrofit.
Prices of parts please
Please refer to my TeamBHP thread for a breakup.
😍😍🙏
Where buy kit plug and play
You can buy refurbished kits from few sellers in China. Let me know if you need help sourcing. For a new kit, you'll perhaps need to enquire with your local dealership
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Does upgrading brakes void warranty?
The stock brakes only have a 6 months factory warranty. This includes the caliper, brake disc, brake pads. Upgrading to an OEM Big Brake Kit is an international upgrade, which also involves coding of the ABS module. So, you can definitely consider a brake upgrade and the dealership shouldn't have a problem with it. If you use aftermarket parts like Brembo pads and claim warranty on the stock Disc, then you wouldn't get it. Hope this helps.
@@SujoyShivde I see. So you got OEM breaks from VW? Considering rear drum breaks did you really experience any breaking performance improvement or is it just for aesthetics?
@@adityashingoremusic The big brake kit is very much a functional upgrade compared to the aesthetics. If you get a chance, do drive a car with these brakes.
Model of this wheels?!
It's called the Portago I think
cost of the complete setup?
Depends on where you source it. 25-50k
Can you please share the costs??
About 35k if you go with factory remanufactured callipers and about 50k if you go with all parts new.
@@SujoyShivde Great.... Thanks a lot 😄
Price pls dm
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