I mean to be fair both the shaman and the pally helped the warlock out immensely with static field totems, freedoms and earthgrab totem. Which gave him a lot of time to re-position or continue to cast stuff during that round.
also both the warlock and the monk are barely contributing anything to the round. Warlock is barely casting and monk is also doing nothing... And then he connects 1 sec and the warlock almost gets one shot and instant neeeds a bop. So if you get one shot you need this crazy amount of utility to compensate
The higher rating the better gameplay you see where teams use every tool to win and have way more awareness to understand if the ww has to much uptime the warlock is fucked. On lower rating its every man for himself
@@NoOne4k the fuk do you mean "barely contributing" look at dmg done. He did 80% of the rets dmg, who was going full yolo all game. Obvously the ret and resto helped him a lot, but he is not your average trash destro i shaffle. I can't even find half as good warlock at 2050cr in rated 3s atm.
As a Destro main, this video is trolling Lock mobility, which is largely accepted (in PvP and PvE) as some of the worst in the game. Smart use of Circle for sure, but those Static Totem/Totemic Projection/Earthgrab Totem combos and Freedoms were responsible for at least half of the pain you endured in that match. Not saying it wasn't frustrating for you as I know it was, but far from all of that kiting and mobility was purely the Lock. Meanwhile, to be fair and honest, Monk has some of the best mobility in the game! This was a comp issue tbqh.
I agree, the warlock mobility in these clips was insane. But this is a more isolated incident. 98% of matches with a warlock won't play anything like this, even at higher ratings. Everything just went right for the locks here. Mages though, it's like this but even worse and it happens every game.
Warlock didn't eat a single stun or root or slow from the enemy team. So it was Ven's monk mobility against 3 players actively trying to stop him, and somehow that equals "warlock mobility is too high" to some people in the comments, lmao.
I love seeing videos like this. Love to see more highlighting players who play well that you run into. Not sure why people here in the comments just want to make nothing into something. Appreciate what you do. Keep up the good work!
Just look at all of the things that have to go right for the lock in the first game. He plays really smart and gets a lot of help from his team. Meanwhile, a WW monk can just roll up and start punching and you have 3 seconds before you're dead. These last class tunings were a bit off imo.
So most of the seasons when warlock is "decent" and a "balanced D tier class" atacks him, he just facetanks at the middle of the map dropping those nasty 70% hp shields on 40 sec CD for every burst possible and doing uninterruptable damage. Seems stoopid, dont you thing? WW monk on the other hand, when "perfectly balanced" to do OKish burst with 0 tunnel is forced to run away 5 seconds after he goes out to atack the warlock. What do you want right now? For WW to hit like a wet noodle with burst when he finally connects? Do you want free wins without actually doing anything? I dont get your thought process. Lets discuss.
@@dobro5958 it's not that serious. I think WW does too much burst... I main lock and have had fun all season. The nerfs we've gotten have felt fair, and I certainly don't mind the buff to our port. But you can't deny that ww is doing too much damage. The entire point of my comment was to highlight how much the other team had to do right for this to be a win. Whereas, against most players, the monk would have far less to accomplish before doing one of the highest DPS bursts in the game.
@@landonfox2081 I do not think that 200k CRIT from ONE ability with 50% crit chance (with keefer) with 1.5 min CD is anough to one shot a 700k HP warlock that has 500k on demand shield usable in stuns. Prove me wrong. Other monk abilities do not crit as much. Also monk does this amount of damage on few specs in the game (example rogue, mage, another ww monk) and deals half of it on the rest of the specs. Obviously you didnt play SL when rogue one touch killed people from stealth the whole expantion (having CC and utility of 5 other specs combined) or when convoke did 900% of enemy HP in 0,5 secs if not instantly kicked.
@@dobro5958 why are you getting so tilted? Also, 2 things can be true... Just because monk is busted right now, doesn't mean that rogue or boomy wasn't broken last expansion. Hell something different was broken literally 3 weeks ago. There will always be something that is over tuned, and it's been that way for a while. I think you're getting upset cause you main a monk lmao. Either way, I don't really care. I just made a simple comment on a fact that most people are already aware of, and through all of this never mentioned warlock survivability even once.
It wasn't just those lobbies with the shaman/pally assists though. I was watching a few streams where Pup(x) would be in and is constantly setting up a mobility clinic.
Did you not kick fear because he would just free cast chaos bolts? How do you balance that out? At some point I would’ve just kicked fear so I could do some damage instead of running around whole game :’) maybe that’s bad tho. Thanks for the breakdown!
Lock had a lot of help and you still almost one shot him with no help from your teammate. Seems like if he didn't do all this amazing kiting hed be dead in 2 seconds.
The problem is that the 2 seconds you do connect you can globalise him. It’s the result of a 15 year arms race of melee vs ranged which created in the unfun gameplay we have now.
@@cuneytunsal5422 literally the moment he connected pal had to use bop or the warlock was one shotted... If it wasn't because of his teammates that were god at kiting him that destro warlock was finished.
@@Orgrimmar21 pal didnt had to use jacsht he is just better than u and uses his cds. It was done to remove stun btw so lock can move again and kite. Not because insane damage
I was on twitch and was looking for a wl pov cause i was stuck on 1,7 and wanted to climb. I found the wls stream and i was the only viewer. I wachted exactly this lobby. This dude played so insanly good. I was kinda shocked, how well a wl can kite. :D
I mean it’s extremely scripted…the melee has to connect to do dmg the lock doesn’t. You have the advantage from the word go since they have to cross map to get to you. Exhaustion…monk uses gap closer, gate, monk uses 1-2rolls, port exhaustion, monk uses sprint, coil to get more value, triple fear…exhaustion oh look ports back up...infernal stun, oh fear DR reset You’re playing a turn behind all game with a class that has more options than you have answers for. Outplaying implies you’re on equal footing as your opponent.
Since Ven is a high level caster and melee player he should know that its not sensible to just stupidly chase 1 caster and try to train him down without thinking about your own positioning and uptime. It would be kinda nuts if this idiotic gameplay worked vs casters. I just started playing dk in solo myself and at around the 2k mark you just have to think about when to chase and when to swap targets and its a good thing in my opinon
Ah yes. Gather 'round children for a tale as old as time: 2k exp fotm reroller calls mult-R1/blizzcon champ bad at the game whilst completely missing the point of the video.
Dude don't even, Monks have THEE highest mobility. Yes, even higher than balance druids that you're oh so afraid of... If you can't kill a caster as a monk you should probably just stick to your little mage man. "still haven't done anything yet" doing more damage than your teammate....
yeah thiss is the only working style of play for lock atm. over 300 rounds of dhuffle on destro and only thing missing was shadow rift. is nice to for porting the melee away when our port is on cd
Mage kiting/cc toolkit is absurd right now. I'd rather fight a pre-nerfed SP and Boomie than any of the 3 Mage specs as they are as a melee. Blizzard really needs to look into that because if you EVER lose to any melee as a Mage player atm, it's your fault.
The level of effort and support this warlock needed to be able to kite you makes this video a little disingenuous. This is a highly skilled warlock so kudos to him, but your average 1800 warlock player won’t have this type of experience, instead a WW will one shot him the second port is on CD
I have anxiety watching this video. I have a similar experience as a Resto Shaman. I'm healing a Rogue and a Dev Evoker. My rogue is being tunnelled and yet the Evoker is also dropping for some reason. The Evoker does this path thing which is also line of sight for me as well as enemies, I'm getting grounding totems on HoJ but still follow-up Repentance hits me, and they both get clapped and die. Evoker flies away from Earthern Wall totem (Which i already relocated), Rogue steps to another person miles away, and my little totem is just sitting there like a lemon. Both players flame me and I lose faith and stop queueing shuffle.
When i queue on arena i meet melee teams everytime... its melee meta... Playning as caster is really boring when u will be spammed with stuns interrupts charges etc
Hard agree with baiting melee onto low on blades edge. Running to pillar to set your port just guarantee your healer gets CC’d into oblivion right away. I’ve seen locks go 0-6 on that map when it should be an OK map for them. Port is so good.
Meanwhile, majority of warlock players complaining about melee. The amount of warlocks i burn through on my warrior is insane, they just take it. But here we have the post nerf dragonflight destro lock kiting venruki into eternity when he is playing the best and currently most mobile melee in the meta. If you are having trouble with melee as a lock its a skill issue. Ive played against locks like this after smacking bad ones all day and its always like oh shit this one can play hang on gotta lock in, and they spam fear me quadruple DR literally the whole arena, baiting my berserkers and everything.
Yeah, seems like some hardcore tunnel vision onto the lock just because of tilt. Despite a great win condition being right in front of you on another target.
its awesome when a melee try to chase you the entire round and even touch your teammates, and your team peels you perfectly. But sadly this happen 1% of the time.
Obviously he was good but you dont use the weird movement bug where u stand underneath a ledge and spam tiger palm and fly around the entire arena to connect - if he peeks out after port it makes the port irrelevant
@@13samfootball you have a few tools yeah, but the cd on them is much higher then a mages 3 blinks, frost nova, BD, and whatever else they have, never said I lose to them just very annoying lol.
Funny how for the first 2/3 of that first game where the entire enemy team is peeling you for the lock nonstop, you are still out damaging the mage LMAO insane ww dmg despite 1% uptime
I think we need to look at the big picture. It's not often people know how to and/ or are willing to play the strategy needed when they have a warlock partner. This warlocks teammates understand that warlocks have to be constantly cared for and prioritized at all times , that shaman and paladin were amazing. The warlock was a good warlock , that clearly understands his/her class, but ... and I mean no offense here, without the teammates they had covering them, picking up failed CC , peels, chains, etc. That could have gone very differently. In the other matches the DK was not working as a team with anyone. Also Ven just going full tunnel vision on the warlock seemed odd, I've watched a lot of ven videos and I dont understand why he chose to just tunnel a target he knows can counter him rather than target swapping.
It no excuse for your partner not helping but I actually do think he was botting a few spells. Exhaustion as soon as your in range is fishy. Remember 50% of flags have received a temp ban for some type of bor before.
this is why ww needs cc immunity the spec gets outclassed in the higher brackets something like bladestorm etc would help immensely also roll and flying serpent kick needs to have a faster animation, its very hard to lock good players down with 1 aoe stun people trinket immediately meanwhile other specs have like 4-5 cc options and we have 1 incap 1 aoe stun :i we are at our teammates mercy to lock targets down for us
Why are u using mobility when the fear is being cast and you know you are not going to be able to kick it. You roll and get feared at the start of your roll so you insta cancel roll and make 0 distance
Now imagine your a warrior in that. OOF. DR need to be 20s, 1 round of mobility charges need to be removed across the board from classes. Huge advocate of just shorter CDs on mobility, instead of double charged abilities. Way easy to track and balance around
They need to implement SWOTOR immune bars or at least make a character immune to that school of cc for a few seconds. Example: you get feared, you can’t be feared again for 3-5 seconds after the effect ends. May help the DR rogue stun spam, fear spam, sheep spam, root spam, clone spam, etc
Yep and this is why windwalker is not s tier. In some lobby's you can go 6-0 but you can also go 0-6, especially when you have holy paladins on top that can bop/ult sac your goes. I find frost makes particularly iritating as they kite you and even if you get to them they can block or alter on top of the healers defensives
where does the aff lock dam come from? do you ever feel like you get shut down on your dmg? I feel like if i manage to connect and get some pressure they are doing infinitely more by just dotting and running
This is why I will never agree with locks on them being bad defensively, at least generally. In some patches they don’t need to port, and when that gets nerfed they complain. Without having used their port kit.
@@Ali-cr9ex you never get touched, if you are frost mage you have 2 blocks and alter time, if you`re arcane mage you literally dont get touchedf with krono shift
In dragonflight? Bro you have been taking advantage of this chain cc every freaking season to get your glad. Stop qqing about something all pvpers abusing.
I honestly just love how warlock has so many spells off GCD and so many CC's that can DR off its own cc's but also CC's that dont DR with the other CC's. It's so Fun to play against
Are for real or what?? It’s hard to stay away as ranged like this lock. Melees are by far the easiest classes to play in pvp. Ranged actually requires a lot of skills.
This problem is nothing new. And much worse for half of the other melee. Been complaining about it for a while, years even. Lol Ranged have far too much mobility (too much in general not just mobility tbh) but hey, at least finally started to get some light on it.
Really, monk gets in range of the lock and almost globals him. You must be fucking stupid. Do you have no idea how insanely good those peels he got were? It wasn't just the lock but his teammates who did an amazing job. He almost got global for the 2 second the monk got in range. And compare that the the entire length of that fight. 2 secs vs mins. Just shows who was better!
You completely misunderstood the video. Casters are giga struggling and he is trying to point out that you basically need 130+ iq to play one when you face 2 apes pressing w on you. If casters have so much, why not play one? Let's see how long you last with so much mobility and everything else 🤨
@warri187 you might be high my dood. Lmao. And why don't I play one? Because I like to have fun and am not a fotm reroller. I play my main through and through LOL Ranged giga struggling when objectively better? Strange
Remember when VENRUKI cried endlessly about rogues.... but NOW, that mages are doing absolutely crazy damage, silence. When classes are completely controlling his characters, silence.... I mean, sure, he'll cry a little - but is streaming battle cries on these classes does not exist... but when its rogue, holy shit, he lets the world know. BTW, I agree, LOCKS ARE GRIEVOUSLY OVER POWERED.... Crazy Damage, Crazy CC, Crazy survival... they give up nothing, literally. Cyclone, Poly, Fear should ONLY be able to be casted 1x.... OR every subsequent cast, there must be a huge manage cost. Rogues pay a HUGE price, both in damage and energy by DR's the cheap shot over and over... casters pay a very very low cost. BUT, lets not kid ourselves... MAGES are now just as bad... try catching a mage.... constant insta trinkets, constant roots.
Sums up dragonflight. Ended up going back to WOTLK and haven't looked back. No interest in gearing up further / chasing mmr. Solo que is a joke also, one of the most poorly implemented pvp features in 13+ years.
That Warlock is amazing.
I mean to be fair both the shaman and the pally helped the warlock out immensely with static field totems, freedoms and earthgrab totem. Which gave him a lot of time to re-position or continue to cast stuff during that round.
true, lock's team knew he was gonna get focused down by Ven so helped him out as much as they could
also both the warlock and the monk are barely contributing anything to the round. Warlock is barely casting and monk is also doing nothing... And then he connects 1 sec and the warlock almost gets one shot and instant neeeds a bop. So if you get one shot you need this crazy amount of utility to compensate
The higher rating the better gameplay you see where teams use every tool to win and have way more awareness to understand if the ww has to much uptime the warlock is fucked. On lower rating its every man for himself
@@NoOne4k the fuk do you mean "barely contributing" look at dmg done. He did 80% of the rets dmg, who was going full yolo all game. Obvously the ret and resto helped him a lot, but he is not your average trash destro i shaffle. I can't even find half as good warlock at 2050cr in rated 3s atm.
@@ziggs123 Brother, I assure you, even on higher ratings people are still doing dumb shit.
As a Destro main, this video is trolling Lock mobility, which is largely accepted (in PvP and PvE) as some of the worst in the game. Smart use of Circle for sure, but those Static Totem/Totemic Projection/Earthgrab Totem combos and Freedoms were responsible for at least half of the pain you endured in that match. Not saying it wasn't frustrating for you as I know it was, but far from all of that kiting and mobility was purely the Lock. Meanwhile, to be fair and honest, Monk has some of the best mobility in the game! This was a comp issue tbqh.
I agree, the warlock mobility in these clips was insane. But this is a more isolated incident. 98% of matches with a warlock won't play anything like this, even at higher ratings. Everything just went right for the locks here. Mages though, it's like this but even worse and it happens every game.
Warlock didn't eat a single stun or root or slow from the enemy team. So it was Ven's monk mobility against 3 players actively trying to stop him, and somehow that equals "warlock mobility is too high" to some people in the comments, lmao.
I love seeing videos like this. Love to see more highlighting players who play well that you run into. Not sure why people here in the comments just want to make nothing into something. Appreciate what you do. Keep up the good work!
Remember when everyone was freaking out of minor CC nerfs, as if it wasn't even going to be worth pressing?
It's for views and clicks dumby, duhh
If you actually believed these brain dead streamers yters then I have a once in a lifetime opportunity to share with you. It's "vemma verve bro"
Mainly rmp abusers
... we were right, be ause now only fear and clone are worth pressing
@@zayon0170 Nobody is dying in cheapshot or DR kidney from 100%? Get out of here with your nonsense.
Just look at all of the things that have to go right for the lock in the first game. He plays really smart and gets a lot of help from his team. Meanwhile, a WW monk can just roll up and start punching and you have 3 seconds before you're dead. These last class tunings were a bit off imo.
A bit is an understatement
So most of the seasons when warlock is "decent" and a "balanced D tier class" atacks him, he just facetanks at the middle of the map dropping those nasty 70% hp shields on 40 sec CD for every burst possible and doing uninterruptable damage. Seems stoopid, dont you thing?
WW monk on the other hand, when "perfectly balanced" to do OKish burst with 0 tunnel is forced to run away 5 seconds after he goes out to atack the warlock.
What do you want right now? For WW to hit like a wet noodle with burst when he finally connects? Do you want free wins without actually doing anything?
I dont get your thought process. Lets discuss.
@@dobro5958 it's not that serious. I think WW does too much burst... I main lock and have had fun all season. The nerfs we've gotten have felt fair, and I certainly don't mind the buff to our port. But you can't deny that ww is doing too much damage. The entire point of my comment was to highlight how much the other team had to do right for this to be a win. Whereas, against most players, the monk would have far less to accomplish before doing one of the highest DPS bursts in the game.
@@landonfox2081 I do not think that 200k CRIT from ONE ability with 50% crit chance (with keefer) with 1.5 min CD is anough to one shot a 700k HP warlock that has 500k on demand shield usable in stuns. Prove me wrong.
Other monk abilities do not crit as much. Also monk does this amount of damage on few specs in the game (example rogue, mage, another ww monk) and deals half of it on the rest of the specs.
Obviously you didnt play SL when rogue one touch killed people from stealth the whole expantion (having CC and utility of 5 other specs combined) or when convoke did 900% of enemy HP in 0,5 secs if not instantly kicked.
@@dobro5958 why are you getting so tilted? Also, 2 things can be true... Just because monk is busted right now, doesn't mean that rogue or boomy wasn't broken last expansion. Hell something different was broken literally 3 weeks ago. There will always be something that is over tuned, and it's been that way for a while. I think you're getting upset cause you main a monk lmao. Either way, I don't really care. I just made a simple comment on a fact that most people are already aware of, and through all of this never mentioned warlock survivability even once.
A monk complaining about mobility.. set ur portal up on his portal.. and if u get freedoms froma pally... there is no kitting u
It wasn't just those lobbies with the shaman/pally assists though. I was watching a few streams where Pup(x) would be in and is constantly setting up a mobility clinic.
looked perfectly balanced compared to all the other bullshit . Specially since the 0.3 second you where on him you almost globaled him lol.
Did you not kick fear because he would just free cast chaos bolts? How do you balance that out? At some point I would’ve just kicked fear so I could do some damage instead of running around whole game :’) maybe that’s bad tho. Thanks for the breakdown!
Lock had a lot of help and you still almost one shot him with no help from your teammate. Seems like if he didn't do all this amazing kiting hed be dead in 2 seconds.
The problem is that the 2 seconds you do connect you can globalise him. It’s the result of a 15 year arms race of melee vs ranged which created in the unfun gameplay we have now.
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2 sec death? Bruh. He has wall, shield usable in stun, his firends has totems and bops. How can you kill a lock in 2 seconds pls tell me.
@@cuneytunsal5422 literally the moment he connected pal had to use bop or the warlock was one shotted...
If it wasn't because of his teammates that were god at kiting him that destro warlock was finished.
@@Orgrimmar21 pal didnt had to use jacsht he is just better than u and uses his cds. It was done to remove stun btw so lock can move again and kite. Not because insane damage
@@cuneytunsal5422? Watch it again he connects for a few secs and drops to the lock to 10-15%
I was on twitch and was looking for a wl pov cause i was stuck on 1,7 and wanted to climb. I found the wls stream and i was the only viewer. I wachted exactly this lobby. This dude played so insanly good. I was kinda shocked, how well a wl can kite. :D
www.twitch.tv/roopx1 if someone wants to view him :D
what’s his twitch name?
@@xx-nd2dk his twitch name is roopx1 :)
That shaman was doing gods work too making kiting easier for the lock, but yes that lock outplayed ven so fucking bad lol
I mean it’s extremely scripted…the melee has to connect to do dmg the lock doesn’t. You have the advantage from the word go since they have to cross map to get to you. Exhaustion…monk uses gap closer, gate, monk uses 1-2rolls, port exhaustion, monk uses sprint, coil to get more value, triple fear…exhaustion oh look ports back up...infernal stun, oh fear DR reset You’re playing a turn behind all game with a class that has more options than you have answers for. Outplaying implies you’re on equal footing as your opponent.
Since Ven is a high level caster and melee player he should know that its not sensible to just stupidly chase 1 caster and try to train him down without thinking about your own positioning and uptime.
It would be kinda nuts if this idiotic gameplay worked vs casters.
I just started playing dk in solo myself and at around the 2k mark you just have to think about when to chase and when to swap targets and its a good thing in my opinon
Ah yes. Gather 'round children for a tale as old as time: 2k exp fotm reroller calls mult-R1/blizzcon champ bad at the game whilst completely missing the point of the video.
And what if there's 2 casters with mobility?
@@johnwild-st4edMonks have the most mobility at will in the game, you didn't know that?
Lol looked like a 2v2 was happening in the background while you chased the lock. Did the lock actually do anything other than run from you?
that lock was a GAMER
That’s on you should of switched, for the 3 seconds you switch you nearly 1 shot pally.😅
I mean you should really swap targets at this point lol
I’m so glad I’m not alone with all the cc as a ww monk.
Dude don't even, Monks have THEE highest mobility. Yes, even higher than balance druids that you're oh so afraid of... If you can't kill a caster as a monk you should probably just stick to your little mage man. "still haven't done anything yet" doing more damage than your teammate....
First game he literally used 2 gap closers before getting on the warlock. Wtf of course he's behind on mobility from that point on...
Clownzo got outplayed bad, so what do you expect
loser pvper
yeah thiss is the only working style of play for lock atm. over 300 rounds of dhuffle on destro and only thing missing was shadow rift. is nice to for porting the melee away when our port is on cd
what graphic settings/addon u r using? how Earthen Totem is so well seen??
Mage kiting/cc toolkit is absurd right now. I'd rather fight a pre-nerfed SP and Boomie than any of the 3 Mage specs as they are as a melee. Blizzard really needs to look into that because if you EVER lose to any melee as a Mage player atm, it's your fault.
The level of effort and support this warlock needed to be able to kite you makes this video a little disingenuous. This is a highly skilled warlock so kudos to him, but your average 1800 warlock player won’t have this type of experience, instead a WW will one shot him the second port is on CD
I have anxiety watching this video. I have a similar experience as a Resto Shaman. I'm healing a Rogue and a Dev Evoker. My rogue is being tunnelled and yet the Evoker is also dropping for some reason. The Evoker does this path thing which is also line of sight for me as well as enemies, I'm getting grounding totems on HoJ but still follow-up Repentance hits me, and they both get clapped and die. Evoker flies away from Earthern Wall totem (Which i already relocated), Rogue steps to another person miles away, and my little totem is just sitting there like a lemon. Both players flame me and I lose faith and stop queueing shuffle.
Can you do a more detailed video about how best to get pvp gear? Cheers.
Love to see braindead melee classes get absolutely kited to death, like the npcs they are.
why tunnel lock tho?
This comment section full of 1.6 stuck clowns. He is not complaining about the warlock
When i queue on arena i meet melee teams everytime... its melee meta... Playning as caster is really boring when u will be spammed with stuns interrupts charges etc
Hard agree with baiting melee onto low on blades edge. Running to pillar to set your port just guarantee your healer gets CC’d into oblivion right away. I’ve seen locks go 0-6 on that map when it should be an OK map for them. Port is so good.
Meanwhile, majority of warlock players complaining about melee. The amount of warlocks i burn through on my warrior is insane, they just take it. But here we have the post nerf dragonflight destro lock kiting venruki into eternity when he is playing the best and currently most mobile melee in the meta. If you are having trouble with melee as a lock its a skill issue. Ive played against locks like this after smacking bad ones all day and its always like oh shit this one can play hang on gotta lock in, and they spam fear me quadruple DR literally the whole arena, baiting my berserkers and everything.
I mean surely in the last clip WW and War can just switch to the dk, they have nothing to survive physical dmg
Yeah, seems like some hardcore tunnel vision onto the lock just because of tilt. Despite a great win condition being right in front of you on another target.
love your vids Ruki, you are so good :)
Have you ever thought of not chasing the lock ? 😅
its awesome when a melee try to chase you the entire round and even touch your teammates, and your team peels you perfectly. But sadly this happen 1% of the time.
Obviously he was good but you dont use the weird movement bug where u stand underneath a ledge and spam tiger palm and fly around the entire arena to connect - if he peeks out after port it makes the port irrelevant
This is why I hate facing mages as a monk 😂, the mobility is insane
Monks have the most mobility at will in the game, you didn't know that?
@@13samfootball you have a few tools yeah, but the cd on them is much higher then a mages 3 blinks, frost nova, BD, and whatever else they have, never said I lose to them just very annoying lol.
Here we go Ven making his bi-weekly push to get warlocks nerfed.
Love how he doesn’t acknowledge training a mage but instead a warlock which has half the mobility and slows.
@sinis9243 almost like he has an agenda 🤔
@@sinis9243 slows and mobility are the only defensive mages have, warlocks are like 3x as tanky
wasnt just the lock , his team mates played well with him
I think it's fine. mobility is a warlocks survivability if he gets caught he dies through defensives
a key thing is, u r being trained like that but they r still doing so damage
venruki the ret hater finally understand what its like to live the life of a wheelchair compared to lambo classes
Wind Waker pvp talent helps a lot with mobility as WW
The “only” part that is broken/stupid about all this is the spam fear and amplify curse/spam curse. The cc on locks is insane.
Funny how for the first 2/3 of that first game where the entire enemy team is peeling you for the lock nonstop, you are still out damaging the mage LMAO insane ww dmg despite 1% uptime
Imagine your team actually supporting you. This is an obvious photoshop. We dont fall for this Ven!
I think we need to look at the big picture. It's not often people know how to and/ or are willing to play the strategy needed when they have a warlock partner.
This warlocks teammates understand that warlocks have to be constantly cared for and prioritized at all times , that shaman and paladin were amazing. The warlock was a good warlock , that clearly understands his/her class, but ... and I mean no offense here, without the teammates they had covering them, picking up failed CC , peels, chains, etc. That could have gone very differently. In the other matches the DK was not working as a team with anyone.
Also Ven just going full tunnel vision on the warlock seemed odd, I've watched a lot of ven videos and I dont understand why he chose to just tunnel a target he knows can counter him rather than target swapping.
It no excuse for your partner not helping but I actually do think he was botting a few spells. Exhaustion as soon as your in range is fishy. Remember 50% of flags have received a temp ban for some type of bor before.
Imagine not having roll or port and doubble the cd of tigers lust. Thats enhancement shaman. Literally...
Youve been doing this to warriors for years on mage... How the turn tables.
this is why ww needs cc immunity the spec gets outclassed in the higher brackets something like bladestorm etc would help immensely also roll and flying serpent kick needs to have a faster animation, its very hard to lock good players down with 1 aoe stun people trinket immediately meanwhile other specs have like 4-5 cc options and we have 1 incap 1 aoe stun :i we are at our teammates mercy to lock targets down for us
Why are u using mobility when the fear is being cast and you know you are not going to be able to kick it. You roll and get feared at the start of your roll so you insta cancel roll and make 0 distance
Looking so handsome with that haircut!
Now imagine your a warrior in that. OOF. DR need to be 20s, 1 round of mobility charges need to be removed across the board from classes. Huge advocate of just shorter CDs on mobility, instead of double charged abilities. Way easy to track and balance around
2:13 swap shaman maybe kill all those totems and kick hex
More content like this please.❤
Transwomxn what a man
I love to see monk suffering
being coordinated can carry games...
Why do the fears sometimes instantly break?
There's a chance to break on damage
A baby amount of damage breaks fear.
Now Locks mobility will get nerfed next....yikes
Please bring back diminishing returns
You should rename video, having amazing teammates that peel!
And when you connect he loses 90% health in 3 sec. Melee btw
Not true, he wasnt at full when he connected. It was 70% to 40% to 30%. Then he got bop'd. So only like 40% health lost total.
do double lock woth shammy heals
Double dk gets the job done lol
why not go ret, and help you mage who is ping pong its health bar? I dont understand how this dude could get r1
They need to implement SWOTOR immune bars or at least make a character immune to that school of cc for a few seconds. Example: you get feared, you can’t be feared again for 3-5 seconds after the effect ends. May help the DR rogue stun spam, fear spam, sheep spam, root spam, clone spam, etc
My life as ret player
this game will ALWAYS be lopsided, its what keeps u all trying/playing
That was like a literal perfect play for and from the lock tho bro lmao that’s not on average
his name should have been husainbolt KEKW
Yep and this is why windwalker is not s tier. In some lobby's you can go 6-0 but you can also go 0-6, especially when you have holy paladins on top that can bop/ult sac your goes. I find frost makes particularly iritating as they kite you and even if you get to them they can block or alter on top of the healers defensives
how mobility killed PvP 😭
I was in the same position except it was an aff lock and while running away and lining, my entire team is taking unhealable damage from 3 dots
I've been loving aff, I choose it over destro now. I throw dots and run or soul rot, very hard to kill
where does the aff lock dam come from? do you ever feel like you get shut down on your dmg? I feel like if i manage to connect and get some pressure they are doing infinitely more by just dotting and running
That looks so frustrating. How do y’all still play pvp on retail? This doesn’t look fun at all
This is why I will never agree with locks on them being bad defensively, at least generally. In some patches they don’t need to port, and when that gets nerfed they complain. Without having used their port kit.
now do one vs good arcane mage
That's why pvp is bad right now. Play a spec with above average cc and mobility or die and cry.
Imagine complaining about lock mobility lmao
git gud
Mages need displacement to be removed, all 3 specs became too powerful against melee
except for the fact that if you even get touched you get 100-0’d in a 2 second stun
The whole vid is on warlock mobility and u talk about mage xD
@@Tom-gt8yv mage has more mobility than warlock, and venruki is a main mage so it`s kinda ironic him complaining about mobility
@@Ali-cr9ex you never get touched, if you are frost mage you have 2 blocks and alter time, if you`re arcane mage you literally dont get touchedf with krono shift
@@rodrigofreitas1316 maybe you haven’t played mage…
Get gud... WW S tier remember!
In dragonflight? Bro you have been taking advantage of this chain cc every freaking season to get your glad. Stop qqing about something all pvpers abusing.
what an unenjoyable method of pvp
Game has too much CC.
not a single mage decurse to be seen lol
Lol, mage is even worse and more annoying. I'll take a warlock over a mage any day of the week.
I honestly just love how warlock has so many spells off GCD and so many CC's that can DR off its own cc's but also CC's that dont DR with the other CC's. It's so Fun to play against
What spells off gcd u talking about?
You kidding right? Warlock might be the second easiest caster to stick on besides sp for melee.
Healing is great fun!
as a warrior main this season i must say ranged dps having infinite mobility isnt fun to que into
Are for real or what?? It’s hard to stay away as ranged like this lock. Melees are by far the easiest classes to play in pvp. Ranged actually requires a lot of skills.
try yourself a caster or hunter and then tell me its easy to kite epecially vs 2 melees chasing you
But Warlock players told me they need this in a caster meta because there's a possibility melee can train them LMAO
This is masterful warlock and team gameplay and embarrassing for you. Delete this.
And blizzard sees nothing wrong with this much of a toolkit...
Right?!? I feel like this happens more often then people realize
yeah like mages and rogues are f tier, righ?
@mariocortes1203 no1 has more solo CC then warlocks rn.
@@kallenxtv321 lmfao, hello rogues and shaman?
@@mariocortes1203 looks like we found the warlock main trying to argue that warlocks aren't flavor of the game's lifespan
This problem is nothing new. And much worse for half of the other melee. Been complaining about it for a while, years even. Lol Ranged have far too much mobility (too much in general not just mobility tbh) but hey, at least finally started to get some light on it.
Really, monk gets in range of the lock and almost globals him. You must be fucking stupid. Do you have no idea how insanely good those peels he got were? It wasn't just the lock but his teammates who did an amazing job. He almost got global for the 2 second the monk got in range. And compare that the the entire length of that fight. 2 secs vs mins. Just shows who was better!
You completely misunderstood the video. Casters are giga struggling and he is trying to point out that you basically need 130+ iq to play one when you face 2 apes pressing w on you. If casters have so much, why not play one? Let's see how long you last with so much mobility and everything else 🤨
@warri187 you might be high my dood. Lmao. And why don't I play one? Because I like to have fun and am not a fotm reroller. I play my main through and through LOL
Ranged giga struggling when objectively better? Strange
@@Lord_Leland you would get destroyed every game thats why. You know it and that's okay, but don't be delusional
Remember when VENRUKI cried endlessly about rogues.... but NOW, that mages are doing absolutely crazy damage, silence. When classes are completely controlling his characters, silence.... I mean, sure, he'll cry a little - but is streaming battle cries on these classes does not exist... but when its rogue, holy shit, he lets the world know. BTW, I agree, LOCKS ARE GRIEVOUSLY OVER POWERED.... Crazy Damage, Crazy CC, Crazy survival... they give up nothing, literally.
Cyclone, Poly, Fear should ONLY be able to be casted 1x.... OR every subsequent cast, there must be a huge manage cost. Rogues pay a HUGE price, both in damage and energy by DR's the cheap shot over and over... casters pay a very very low cost.
BUT, lets not kid ourselves... MAGES are now just as bad... try catching a mage.... constant insta trinkets, constant roots.
Lmao i love rogue tears. Keep them coming trash can
Sums up dragonflight.
Ended up going back to WOTLK and haven't looked back.
No interest in gearing up further / chasing mmr.
Solo que is a joke also, one of the most poorly implemented pvp features in 13+ years.