Tears of the Kingdom is a Conflicting Game

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  • @Sugurain
    @Sugurain 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    The main problem is TOTK was presented as a SEQUEL, but the actual game we got is anything but.
    BOTW was an amazing EXPERIENCE, you alone you had sort of a connection with nature, you came across a giant skeleton, giant cut tree, or a cool ruin, and wondered "Hm.. What was this place? What did it look before? Does it have any meaning?"
    I just loved hearing the accordion in the distance and following the sound until I found Kass, and his fun and creative shrine quests.
    Guardians and sheika tech were such a great addition to Zelda, you had cool armor, cool enemies, a f*cking motor bike, and even futuristic gear for your horse!
    I also LOVED the champions, specially after the DLC, where you get a picture which you can take to your fully upgraded home to put on display. That was so cool and sweet!
    Then TOTK comes along.
    I searched everywhere for Kass, but nope, they kept most NPCs, but they decided the most memorable of them all needed to go. Great.
    Not only that, but his cool shrine quests are gone. Have fun carrying green rocks from point A to point B, because that's all you gonna get.
    TOTK never explains any of the mysteries of the previous games. What were the giant skeletons? The giant cut trees? What were the leviathans? And all those countless ruins?
    We will never know. I hate they took the Zonai and it's cool pre-columbian architecture and changed it to some generic sh*t. Worse: They don't even explain what the Zonai were, how or why they vanished, AGAIN. What a f*cking joke. We don't even get to interact with a living Zonai.
    Remember the cool bike you had in the previous game? Gone. And no construct can come close to the speed and maneuverability of the Master Cycle.
    Remember how horses were a thing? And you could even get cool futuristic gear for it? Gone. Horses are absolutely useless now.
    Gloom hands are scary but aren't interesting to fight like guardians. Also constructs are cool, but again, not as threatening as guardians. Just imagine coming across a gloom infested guardian in the depths. Or seeing purified guardians walking around the town and protecting people.
    Champions are gone now, nobody remembers them, nobody remembers the GIANT ROBOTS they piloted anymore. They were all replaced, and for what?
    Sages are a joke, their abilities are a joke, Tulin is the only one that's kinda useful, but will also blow your drop away if you're not careful. Their ancestors are just.. wow... what a downgrade man... What a let down....
    Mineru is such a cool concept, looks awesome, but then again, she's completely USELESS in battle.
    Even the connection you had with nature is gone now, there's zonai LITTER *EVERYWHERE*, the maps feel kinda dirty/polluted now. There's people and construction materials everywhere, you're not alone with nature anymore. For some, that's a good thing, for me the magic went away with this change.
    I could go on for hours, but you get the point. The negatives far, FAR outweigh the positives for me.

    • @Nimajneb406
      @Nimajneb406 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      I agree with everything you said. In addition to that, TOTK fails to make meaningful changes to the map (beyond a few). So for people who played BOTW searching every nook and cranny like before isn’t important, but instead it becomes a game of spot the difference. I liked the caves, but very little was done with them. The depths suck though. Beyond being the set piece for two dungeons, they have no real story relevance. They are never explained or acknowledged by the story. Same for the sky. It was interesting, but no one talks about how the islands came to be, they’re just there, not even Rauru knows why. For the map, they should have just sent link back in time with Zelda and they could have made some very cool and significant changes with that in mind.
      The main mechanic of ultrahand is cool and fun, but it feels mismatched with the story. It’s a zonai power, but no zonai ever talks about it, acknowledges it, or uses it, so it feels a bit weird. Additionally, the world wasn’t designed with it in mind, as it’s BOTW’s world. I never used any vehicles in the depths, and the sky’s only require the minimum engagement with Ultrahand to finish everything. The shrines make good use of it, but those are separate from the rest of the game. It’s a cool mechanic, but I think it would have been better suited for a Zelda side game, with that as the main focus.
      I haven’t even touched the story yet. The memories worked in botw, because you knew the whole story from the get-go: they found guardians and divine beasts, then ganon showed up took em over and killed everyone, so Zelda’s holding him at the castle. The memories served less as story conduit, and more as character moments. They filled out the fine details of the events but more importantly told us the emotions of the events. The memories give us as players and link a true motivation to want to stop ganon and save Zelda. TOTK doesn’t do that. There’s an order to the memories, but it’s not enforced, which can cause a disjointed story that spoils itself. Additionally since it has a story it’s trying to tell, it can’t focus on the character moments as well as BOTW could, making them feel a bit bland and flat. The sages are significantly less likable than the champions. And the story is so far in the past compared to link that it has no bearing on the present. In BOTW link lived through those events, but for TOTK it’s unrelated to him.
      I’m gonna end it here, because I’ve spent too much of my life complaining as is

    • @BradsWorkbench
      @BradsWorkbench 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      U named only the positives of botw and negatives of totk...... totk was basically what they wanted to do with botw but ran out of time imo

    • @Nimajneb406
      @Nimajneb406 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@BradsWorkbench you’re right, botw definitely made some major mistakes as well. While I enjoyed the divine beasts, they were a major departure from previous dungeons. I’ve always described BOTW as one of my favorite games, but not my favorite Zelda games. It’s fun, but it’s very different from previous entries in most every way. I’d love to hear your thoughts and critiques

  • @ultimateracs
    @ultimateracs 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    It's really a drag to listen the imprisoning war history with small alterations 4 times and have similar reactions to it each time. It could be so much more fun if there is little details revealed to make a full picture only when you have the 4 of then, like the location, the enemies numbers, the strategies used, nothing major. Wasted potential

    • @ss5gogetunks
      @ss5gogetunks 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Secret stones??? Demon king???

  • @autumneagle
    @autumneagle 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    I really enjoy TOTK. Still playing it

  • @anonymousgerbil8336
    @anonymousgerbil8336 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Just did the Fire Temple the other day and trying to make Yunobo do his thing was a nightmare.

    • @JumboNateBob
      @JumboNateBob  7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      frr 😭

  • @sohzeta
    @sohzeta 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video. You just synthetized my thoughts and feelings towards these two games. And most of the time when I say it to somebody they just "you crazy, that's the best game i've ever played" me. I recognize it's a great game, but I don't feel like playing Zelda and that's too disappointing for me

  • @rarewhiteape
    @rarewhiteape 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    You call it an essay but it's just an excuse for 1 second of Purah simping and I love it.

    • @JumboNateBob
      @JumboNateBob  10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Amen, brother 🤣

  • @yohvh
    @yohvh 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    The vibe of the first game was good. But I can't stand having non permanent items that break down. Ill just stash them and never use them. The puzzles sometimes where also not clear so you start googling. Then one day you never open the game again. I didn't even know my final quest or story.

    • @Mast3rKK
      @Mast3rKK 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      in botw, the durability was completely fine. without it, there wouldnt be any reason to hold more than 2 weapons- the master sword and either a savage lynel crusher or the boulder breaker. in totk i hate it, the durability on every weapon is miserable and the only way to do anything about it is by wasting hours scouring the depths for new pristine weapons thatll break before you can get new ones

  • @pillowsoft4444
    @pillowsoft4444 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I am very offended >:(

    • @JumboNateBob
      @JumboNateBob  21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Bro same, this guy has no idea what he's talking about 😡😡

    • @Jlc-ljc
      @Jlc-ljc 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      No. I hate this game so I'm offended by your comment

  • @7F0X7
    @7F0X7 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    This game desperately *DESPERATELY* needs an overhaul DLC to fix it up to go along with the Switch 2 launch. At the barest minimum was need a Master Mode to keep the game somewhat challenging. Master Mode is what *made* BOTW worth completing from start to finish. I did everything in that game except for the last few hundred seeds. What's so sad is TOTK only served to make me respect BOTW more in hindsight. For the love of.... Make TOTK Master Mode restrict how often you can eat/drink.

    • @mkjjoe
      @mkjjoe ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      To me Master Mode in BOTW was too superficial, essentially making enemies damage sponges. It's fun early on to change the perspective on enemy camps but it quickly becomes like regular mode, only more tedious. Adding more restrictions in master mode is a great idea for future games. For TOTK though I accepted it was done, Aonuma said they were content-complete by mid-2023 and had no plans for it after release. I expect a sort of performance patch for Switch 2 but in terms of game design, minor changes wouldn't "fix" the game (besides just combat). I'm fine if they focus on the next game.

  • @wayward_identity
    @wayward_identity 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    totk didnt give me that sense of epic adventure as botw. there was no need for a sequel. i think totk has a lot of gimmicks like the depths, the sky islands, the zonai devices... all pretty and even elaborate, but they don't fit the game's theme in my opinion. i completely dumped the hoverbike at some point because it just ruined the sense of the unknown awaiting beyond the hills. for me the main experience was exploring the overworld, and botw did that already, and did it better. also the graphics in botw suited the switch hardware better, no problems with anti-aliasing.

  • @christophernewhouse5832
    @christophernewhouse5832 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I beat both breath of the wild & tears of the kingdom & i may never play Zelda ever again the experience 1/3 of the time was Me watching youtube videos 2 get more hearts & stamina its a infinite loop with basically no return just run walk run pick up (x3) fight the same enemies over & over again weapon breaks fast travel pick up fast travel everything is pointless in the game i hated the mechanics of the users abilities most of the time it was used against me in the form of 500 puzzles the game looks nice & at times was a peaceful experience they made the same game added $10 of content & sold it 4 $70 i also like having more cinematic cutscenes that progress the story forward without showing only the past

  • @Jeremyb2023
    @Jeremyb2023 42 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah, I think the vast majority of your video can be summed up in the following statement - Though open world Zelda has some great strengths, it also falls short in some ways from the traditional 3D Zelda. I, too, hope that they can manage to find a better way to work the story into the narrative and not let it be something that the character passively observes through memories of some kind.

  • @Aaaaamon
    @Aaaaamon 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    That thumbnail dude wtf 😂

  • @wryyyy
    @wryyyy ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Lot of people may disagree, but Twilight Princess is still one of the best Zelda games all these years later. It's a quite linear game for a Zelda game, but that's one of its strong points really. The story pacing is great, while not actually hand holding the player, something like what Skyward Sword did. Sure, the content towards the end feel rushed, but Wind Waker suffered the same exact issue.
    Nintendo hated the game, because it was made "just because everyone wanted a new OoT", but that's what makes it so great. It's basically OoT atmosphere, more fleshed out and unique aesthetic. Not to mention its blatant PJ Lord of the Rings inspiration, which as a huge LotR fan only makes it even more charming.
    This isn't even a "first Zelda game played" kind of bias. I grew up with NES, SNES, N64 Zeldas. TP was a game I played in my early adulthood, yet it still evokes that feeling of "ah yes, what a great game" feel.
    Where BotW (and ToTK) fall apart is that Nintendo thought they were being clever by making a sandbox game, in 2017, when sandbox genre had been already done hundreds of times, and Nintendo didn't even do a good job at making a sandbox. BotW world map is very empty, with the obviously mentioned landscape things to make the player head for *anywhere*, but for what gain? Single use weapons? Shrines? Yes okay, shrines, for making you more powerful, but why? For what story? The list goes on.
    ToTK is just the same thing, but they Ubisofted the game to death, just a metric crapton of stuff to collect, but nothing makes a difference in the game really, because again, WHERE'S THE STORY, WHY AM I DOING THIS?
    Both games just act like the whatever sloppy story they slapped as an afterthought on the game, should just be ignored entirely by the player.
    Funny enough, this is exact opposite of what Skyward Sword did, where they kept cramming the crappy story down the player's throat at every mandatory recycled revisit to old areas. Also, remember, Master, your wiimote batteries are nearly empty.
    Twilight Princess just had that perfect balance of storytelling and freedom. Story was used to lead the player to a new area, where the player was then allowed to freely explore, and a decent story also enhanced the feeling of player actions having an impact on the story. TP also has dungeons, big, long, fun dungeons. Zelda games need dungeons.

  • @AyrisX86
    @AyrisX86 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I really wanted to like Tears but it doesn't run well at all, and I'm usually fighting harder against the game's controls than any bossfight it has to offer. The canon in Tears is also really jank. Where are the towers and shrines? Why is the Shrine of Resurrection just *h o l e*?
    If you completed Champions' Ballad in BotW, the picture will be on the wall in Hateno when you visit the house in Tears. Clearly then, all those things definitely did happen. And yet it seems like Zelda threw out her magic time-stopping iPad, since you never hear anything about it ever again. Wait, how did they print that photo in the first place? The canon is tied up into a tired little spaghetti from which there is no escape and I am far too full to finish eating.

    • @JumboNateBob
      @JumboNateBob  7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@AyrisX86 Haha, exactly. I had a 10 minute max for this video, but I would have loved to dive deeper into the lore and continuity between the two games. Almost everything from BotW is gone! Where did it go? Who knows!! 😭💀

    • @AyrisX86
      @AyrisX86 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@JumboNateBob​​ I have a modded switch and I play BotW with a mod that replaces Link with Zelda. I find the story more cathartic that way, and Zeldy be Zeldin all day long, good for her. There's a similar (albeit incomplete) mod for Tears that just swap Lonk and Zeldy, but I still just didn't care. It was fun to watch her Zeld the sword out of the Light Dragon though

  • @xochitl2527
    @xochitl2527 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    I think the title would be better without the "video essay" at the end

    • @JumboNateBob
      @JumboNateBob  10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Too short to be a called video essay? That might be good advice, I'll give it a try.
      Thanks for your feedback! Any thoughts on the video itself?

  • @ElTecnomagoai
    @ElTecnomagoai 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I actually prefer Age of Calamity for the value of its rewards 😂

  • @J0J0Jetz
    @J0J0Jetz 45 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Good video, people have thrown fire at me whenever I say this, but tears was a rip-off to play. Putting many hours into breath of the wild then playing totk felt like a scam. Did barely anything in their 6 years of development and then charged $70 for it. They get a free pass though from everyone because it’s Zelda. Most are afraid to express their opinions about this game because a majority of sales went through iPad kids, so they’ll try to rip you apart. Time won’t be kind to this game. But regardless, keep the grind up!

  • @bocchi-osu
    @bocchi-osu วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this channel is so underrated I hope you get more views soon!

    • @JumboNateBob
      @JumboNateBob  21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you so much! I'm glad you like my content!

  • @WarIsNoMoreCold
    @WarIsNoMoreCold 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like how you bash both games. Generally people pick one over the other.
    Just to complement the video: I was playing God Of War 2018 and I felt like Kratos could've been any other random character in the universe and people wouldn't notice. It feels like it started as some great game engine and ended up with the GOW IP.
    The same I feel a bit with BOTW and TOTK. At the beginning it probably could have been some random sandbox, minecraft like game. But it fit well with the Zelda IP and would probably sell a lot better with this in mind. It is not a game like Mario Odyssey where you can clearly see some Mario patterns across all levels.

  • @neetpride5919
    @neetpride5919 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Conflicting? No, I think you mean it was bad but you can't bring yourself to put that in the vid title. TotK was without a doubt the most disappointed I've ever been with a game purchase. It was the game that made me vow to never buy a game at full price on launch day again. Like, TotK is a glorified DLC or tech demo, not a sequel to the best Zelda of all time that took 6 years to make. It's like the team working on it forgot to do their assignment so they just cobbled together a few old projects and turned it in last minute.
    In a game ALL about exploration let's: not create a new overworld map at all, straight-up lie about there being a substantial sky map, and algorithmically generate a boring underworld map then deliberately make it as tedious as possible to explore. The main criticism of the first one was the lack of real dungeons? Not only will the main dungeons be far less interesting than BotW's dynamically moving dungeons, now 1 out of every 3 shrines won't even have any content inside them, just a couple of arrows in a box or something.
    Anyone who claims to like TotK is actually just trying to rationalize their $75 purchase. Nintendo sees us as suckers who will gobble up any slop they serve. Never again bros.

    • @Salvitrio
      @Salvitrio 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Lol that's how traditional Zelda fans felt when Breath of the Wild came out though. We had to wait years for that junk? At least TotK is the definitive version of it.

    • @neetpride5919
      @neetpride5919 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Salvitrio at laest BotW was a full game instead of a $75 DLC

    • @Salvitrio
      @Salvitrio ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @neetpride5919 TotK had new quests, bosses, dungeons, shrines, story, caves, and ultra-hand. Besides the surface map and game engine, it's not really the same. I explore for the adventure not to see some different shaped rocks/environment (not that I'm against that, of course).
      Not defending them reusing the map, though, just saying that the waiting 6 years is a separate issue and that TotK itself is much more fun than BotW when you compare the two, imo. Unless you're one of those "BotW's lack of overworld content is what made it good" people.

  • @dwightk.schrute7213
    @dwightk.schrute7213 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I feel sad that people's love for this game seems to have waned over time. It's a beautiful experience and I feel like they're incredibly picky when it comes to BOTW comparisons.

  • @DC.196
    @DC.196 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    only 330 views is crazy

    • @JumboNateBob
      @JumboNateBob  9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Loll, thanks

  • @Jlc-ljc
    @Jlc-ljc 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    You are in the military i see barracks room👀

    • @JumboNateBob
      @JumboNateBob  9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Nah, that's just my college dorm room

  • @EnciLuxuryService
    @EnciLuxuryService 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hey there NateBob! Great video! I personally love video essays, especially ones put together as well as yours! and not to mention on my favorite franchise nonetheless!
    I was hoping to get your attention so I can inquire about something one on one. Is there a preferred email or method of contact I could reach you at? I'd love to have a conversation!
    Anyways, i do hope your Thanksgiving was very giving and that the rest of your week is good :)
    Happy Holidays! Hope to hear from you!
    - Enciso

    • @JumboNateBob
      @JumboNateBob  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Glad you liked the video! I just added my email address to my channel's "about" page. Feel free to message me there!

    • @EnciLuxuryService
      @EnciLuxuryService 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@JumboNateBob I appreciate your quick reply! I went ahead and sent you an Email!
      I hope you have a Wonderful Wednesday :)

  • @Bruno-jf3cb
    @Bruno-jf3cb 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dislike, I'll watch the video later

  • @icedlemongamer
    @icedlemongamer 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    booo the story was bomb in this game

  • @earthy205
    @earthy205 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    This video can't be less than 10 minutes and be called a video essay 🙄🤦‍♀️

    • @JumboNateBob
      @JumboNateBob  10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Real sorry 'bout that. How long does a video have to be to be considered a video essay?
      My script was 5 pages long. Sure, that's terribly lengthy, but it is an essay. This is a video adaptation of that essay. I made this video for a college class, which required it to be under 10 minutes. I would have liked to, and certainly could have made it much longer by talking more slowly and including larger gaps between each section, but could not.
      Regardless, thanks for your feedback. I hope you otherwise enjoyed the video. (If you actually watched it, of course.)

    • @ElTecnomagoai
      @ElTecnomagoai 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes it can

    • @Charismactivism
      @Charismactivism 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes it can