Fashion's Intense Relationship With Music
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- On the heels of the Golden Globes and red-carpet fashion, we're talking about what makes music so powerful in fashion runway shows, and how musicians make the designer brands they wear more complex. On today's question video, we talk about the creation of a fashion wiki, why covering up-and-coming fashion brands is difficult, and how we create our coverage for Paris Fashion Week.
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I am not joking when i say the soulja boy "haters get mad cuz i got me some bathin ape" line when i was in 6th grade was the singular thing which got me started on looking up fashion. It took many many many years to wind up in a bliss foster comments section but we're very unironically grateful to soulja boy for making us realize that "expressing yourself through clothes" was a concept that existed.
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I feel this. My older brother gave me a bape tee when I was 14 and I thought it was planet of the apes merch, but he showed me the songs I already knew with lyrics mentioning it. I was hooked, and now I've been here for a few years
this is so sweet & relatable, i legitimately discovered ann demeulemeester in 2015 through fashion killa by a$ap rocky ! so crazy
I never knew that's what he said...
soulja boy the first to combine music and fashion 🤯
the secret third member of this channel, and arguably the most charming, is the living room's erratic lighting.
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what you said about meanigful versus meaningless content, as a typical « adhd person », i think its interesting that your 20 or 30 or even 40 minutes long videos always gets me. I dont know if it’s your way of never talking about superficial details and always getting deep into subjects or simply the way you talk and behave that sticks with me but it works… you know these moments when you say OKAY STAY WITH ME THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT MOMENT IN THIS VIDEO it resonates so much with me. i feel like your personality and the way you behave play a major role in keeping my attention for 20 minutes straight
I have ADHD myself, and my tone of speaking has largely been adapted from the speech patterns that make *me* pay attention to others. That’s so wild that you caught that haha.
Yes. I agree. Bliss has a fantastic presence through the camera. He has real talent for teaching. I watch his videos mainly for the content, but also as an inspiration in my job. I teach metrology (no, not weather, measuring), a quite dry and technical subject. I wish I someday could be as good as Bliss in keeping a very complex train of thoughts engaging and clear.
in the gothic lolita community, we have a pretty complete wiki and it rocks. we focus on stock images, colorways, motifs, brands, and release years; because this stuff is not usually from runway shows, a lot of our stuff is sourced from magazines, and it takes a little digging. the designer fashion community can definitely get it together if people are passionate enough!
Wow that’s awesome, I’ll heart this so others can see it. Thanks so much for sharing with us 💫💫
Theory: all clothing is cosplay. Everyone is dressing in such a way that says something that they want to say about themselves. Even if you are saying “don’t look at me, I’m just a regular person trying to get through the day” - that’s still a statement that you have to carefully pick out your outfit to make that statement. All of fashion is an aesthetic that we want to play in: historical renaissance or historical Anne of Green Gables or Rock star of the ‘80’s, adventurer, military etc. Music is a huge part of creating that aesthetic, music and the perfect bag
But wouldn't that mean we'd be cosplaying ourselves and we're not real 🤯💀
when you said "adventurer", i thought of dora the explorer. what a great look. collab pending.
"we are all born naked. the rest is drag"
@@piercenigel4670 lol. I was picturing Ralph Lauren but Dora might be better
@@piercenigel4670 Amen
I absolutely became obsessed with McQueen in high school because of Lady Gaga. I would watch all his runways and sketch my own designs. The outfits in Bad Romance blew my mind!
I also vividly remember the glass triangular dress. Tho can’t remember who made it.
@@davidpachecogarcia i’ll check the gaga wiki but her sister is a designer so that may have been her’s
Lady Gaga also wore many Iris Van Herpen’s design. Which from an architecture and construction background i really like since most of her work blends and challenges both old school techniques and newer ones when constructing clothing. 🖤
i can't die before wearing armadillo shoes.
So many people are into fashion thanks to Gaga. ❤
I am hyper-aware of how algorithms feed content to me and your channel is an absolute OASIS. Keep up the brilliant work and yes to any insight on new designers, please. I really appreciate your perspective on fashion as well as your taste and extensive research undertaken. It is not lost on us watching... In the 90's as a kid I was obsessed with watching 'fashion t.v.' and on that channel was a segment hosted by Elsa Klench- Looking back it's corny but it was a wealth of insight into fashion, designers and culture. I feel you have filled that void in fashion journalism for me. Daniella is right in saying everyone is doing the same thing but you folks aren't and I am so here for this.
That means so much to me, Alice. Thank you💫💫
so true what you said. It seems like everyone is just copying everyone. I like your channel most because you do your own things, set your own standards, dont complain about and just go for it! well done!
*OMG IF YOU DONT COVER TOMMY NUTTER IN THIS* I will never speak to you again...
FYI - Tommy Nuttrer did the suits for The Beatles, Mick Jagger, Bowie etc etc.
In my opinion, without the George Micheal song Freedom! ‘90 released in 1990. The concept of the supermodel, the women themselves (Linda, Christy etc.) , and the 90s obsession with fashion would never have happened. The Versace Fall 1991 was the perfect blend of both music and fashion to create an unforgettable moment in time. ❤
It is absolutely an unfortunate reality that the internet has become a place to turn your brain off rather than a place to soak up as much free knowledge or how Virgil would say “free game” as possible. You articulated it very well & despite the challenges I agree, the first step is being more intentional with what we click on & what we give our energy to. We came to places like TH-cam & even twitter to get an alternative view on the more niche things we love. Not to watch the same mindless garbage that’s available on the legacy media!
& with a more aggressive & less considerate tone, stop being zombies & be present in what you watch. This is as much your diet as the food you eat & the same ones who complain about the overbearing amount of demna convos when we need more Kiko convos are often the same ones on their 8th rerun watch of “The Office” lmao.
Y’all have an incredible balance of everything & I appreciate your work dearly 💙
"I'm glad I watched that. I'm glad that I'm thinking about these things now. This was good for me." is what your videos make me think and feel. ❤
That means a lot to me, thank you 💫💫
re trying to get fashion considered more seriously: I havent been following y'all for long, but that's ABSOLUTELY something I've appreciated about the work on this channel. I spent most of my life not really taking fashion seriously as an art, and I've been trying to do a better job at that lately if only because I feel like my concept of art DEMANDS that I do, and the unashamedly analytical-and-unpretentious approach y'all take on this channel is not only helpful in explaining the history, work, and intent behind what you cover, but also inspiring re: how to think about fashion-as-art.
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I love your videos, well done on the thumb nail it looked really eye catching maybe that's because Im a David Bowie fan tho
I love ed banger and sebastiAn so my favorite runway show soundtrack is YSL, plus all the music for all the shows hes done is on streaming!
so thats why most of cdg runway shows dont have sound on youtube
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i really appreciate how much effort you put into these long-form videos. i replaced my tiktok consumption with videos like yours because your passion is infectious. like yes i’m still casually consuming, but it’s like you said, i now get a feeling of being “a better person” because I actually get to learn and think. thank you!
I really appreciate the effort you put into your research. Your dedication is truly inspiring!
I would DEF watch episodes about new designers. I watch every new episode you put out, no mater if im "in the mood". I really take you guys seriously and If you wanted to cover new designers I would still listen and share.
That means the world to us, thanks so much :)
"These New Designers Suck."
"Braindead Futurism"
"So Fashion is pretty Screwed"
When Promoting new stuff an interesting theory is to say undeservingly negative things for amazing pieces that may be misunderstood. The same reason names like Playboi Cart and Lil Uzi were able to get big (tons more, much more valid names I could have used) was cuz they made something new and older listeners undeservingly hated on it cuz it was "mumble rap" and didn't conform to the same reasons rap music had previously been made for. This turns heads and makes people question exactly why it's so bad. Wanna talk about people who scroll on their phone to zone out a lot of people on that timing pander to negativity and whilst obviously you'll be hyping them up, I think these double edged concepts would prolly be the best way to try that out. Essentially if a phone is an escape, they want the their life to not seem so bad, so if they see disappointment they feel a bit better about their own life.
What I super appreciate about your videos is that there is no music, you say things succinctly (and say a LOT within a short amount, but say it well), and there are no crazy flashes or memes polluting the screen the whole time. It helps me focus way better, and allows me to listen and retain this information that I intentionally want to learn. Thank you both!!
Loveee this channel , I just started my masters at SCAD for luxury brand management. Previously I studied information systems . My two worlds collided within this conversation. A robust fashion database should have the integrity you talk about. I’m not sure about runways shows but so far my academic resources give me access to so many publications and collaborations. For something of this scale a fashion institute could help connect dots
because if the fashion shows don't have a music background on the runway shows are boring.. and sleepy even they have the music background
I've always felt that the introduction to new designers was a part of the fashion week videos, there's lots of names there that I'd never heard of - though I'll also say that I have more of a tourist's appreciation of fashion rather than as an ardent devotee, so there's likely lots of standard names that I wouldn't know to begin with
Nah, I’d classify you as closer to a “full-time hobbyist” level of knowledge. You’re deep in the rabbit hole 🦾
Vogue Runway is baised but I loving to go to..
Vogue Runway is just selected designers/brands covering the shows
Love that you ‘sneak’ in new learnings when you are covering topics that address mass interest as well. Always broadening our horizons. 👏👏👏
Seigen Ono has music commissioned by Comme des Garçons, as do Ryuichi Sakamoto for Yohji Yamamoto.
Yamamoto himself also makes music for some of his shows.
you didn't mention Michel Gaubert.. i can understand that you don't care about Chanel or Dior( who does really) but the music is really good
Sometimes they’ll tag the musicians in their social posts after runways
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A celebrity stylist, a designer and a musician walk in to a bar and stare up at the Grammys on TV. The stylist says "ugh, a meat dress, I'd have put her in some up and coming new street wear" The designer takes a long drag from their cigarette and quips "I'd have made the most beautiful corduroy, vinyl and tulle romper". The musician passes out in their vodka, pees themselves and the other two gasp. I don't remember how the rest of the story goes but it was on the cover of Vogue is the punchline of this joke I am making up right now sitting next to a statue of Lemmy from Motorhead while going over the LAFW stuff I can't bare to look at 3 months later.
Your videos are a must! Wish more ppl could handle sitting through prolong content. Instant gratification has so many ppl in a choke hold. Thank you for taking your time to research incredible must needed history❤️🙌🏿
fendi show started and the music was so much the cliche i described (techno with repetitive piercing punishing sound) that i lol'd
wonder if the music might slightly be there to de-stress people, cuz high fashion has its stresses. to remind peeps that fashion is fun. oh I had mentioned it might slightly make the models' walk have a quality of dance, it might also slightly make the spectators feel like they're dancing in their seats, cuz I think our movement in chairs, even small movement, can have a slight quality of dance
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Possibly you might make a vid on what people mean when they talk about being interested in how clothes "move". I'm not a fashion novice but not an expert, and not sure what peeps mean by this or what to look for and how it matters.
The only thing about a fashion wiki is that it makes it so much easier to rip stuff off.
a few designers/brands have on their site have runway collections and along side of the video
I think with some clickbait new designers could be showcased
even the Fashion Feed YT channel are good too.. to watch fashion shows online
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Oh yeah, how do you feel about joining Vogue club?
Hmm I really love ff channel and letting regular people access high fashion. It’s not their fault that the music is protected legally and ive seen great mixes added to shows when they couldn’t, but for the big brands they do have the exact same music as the live show. I really don’t get the hate for ff channel.
No hate! I just feel they should specify that the music isn’t original. No hate at all 💫💫
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Will you make a video on Demi-Couture? I'm starting a Demi-Couture line myself, and when I was first starting out, I had a very hard time figuring out where I fit in the market. The term Demi-Couture wasn't really a term that I saw in the fashion world. I did eventually stumble upon it and I'm glad I did. I think a lot of viewers on your channel could benefit from knowing what it is and who creates Demi-Couture lines. It would make for an interesting video.
Always looking for suggestions, thank you!
PS I’m glad you found what you’re meant to do! 💫
by far, hands down, you & Daniella produce the best fashion content
coverage ever. you have set the bar so high- i dont think anyone else
can come close. its not a competition, but i come to your channel first- just saying.
thank you for all of your hard work.
That means a ton to us, thanks so much :)
"You so rarely give me the ick" is sooo harsh lol
I love this channel coverings the fashion week like no other did.. specially the interview and backstage pass
Thank you for a great vides as always !
The main reason I got into fashion was because I saw j dilla wearing stussy tees while studying his production for a school project. Insanely influential music producer and he wore a lot of classic streetwear brands that hip-hop adopted.
Rest in beats Dilla.
Thank you for calling out FF Channel. I hate thta they don't use the same music (also just hate what they do).
I don’t have a problem with FF Channel generally, it would just be nice if they specified that the music is different 💫💫
yo the beginning has me screaming
I love your communication skills ❤❤❤ Thank you!!!
You are so welcome 💫💫
A comment to the wiki thing: I think a lot of brands have these digital archives. E.G. in the Giorgio Armani Museum in Milano you have access to every single piece that was ever made from him. But only local
thank you for your job, guys :)
Thank you for the content!🙏🩵
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Guys you're the best 😭 thank you for blissing my TH-cam feet ❤
Wtf, another banger within 6 days
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Spot on Carti impression 🦇🧛🏿♀️
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Probably not possible, but would LOVE a video discussing your take on the fashion design & influences in Poor Things film which recently came out. It's been nominated for numerous awards including the costume design!
Always looking for suggestions, thank you so much 💫💫
Personally I'm kind of over Sofia Coppola (I think I grew-out of her because I got older) but I understand if someone who works with clothes thinks her films are a wardrobe/costume department masterpiece. Thanks for reminding people to watch things with a lot of thought put behind them 🙏🙏 hope you both get good karma for the effort you put into these videos. I'm sick of people just thoughtlessly copying on this platform.
When Demna was in charge or Balenciaga, his boyfriend, a DJ, had amazing music. I’ve always liked the balenciaga runway music.
And after I just typed this, you mention it. I guess great minds think alike 😉
Open sourced wikipedia esc but make it fashion would be an amazing website. MDLA, a tech company in NYC, attempted this but still hasn't finished. I spoke with a representative last year and they seemed very enthusiastic about the future and open to suggestions-but I've yet to see any major improvements (hopefully soon!). I wonder if an LLM could be trained to find the information needed and populate it into respective categories on the website? There are so many ways this could be done but it's definitely a creatively intensive and objectively difficult void to fill!
For some runway show history, Jeanne Becker is a Canadian fashion reporter. She used to have a show called Fashion Television from 1985-2012. It would be a good idea to add her to a Google search as she interviewed designers and there was footage of the runways.
As a long time viewer on your channel, I wanted to weigh in on the question regarding the topic of new and on the rise designers. I would be likely to engage in that content if it was directly labeled as for example, “up & coming designers to watch:designer name.” I think what I’m trying to say is that if forest (video topic in the title) is clearly stated and then I would have more “buy-in” to click on the video.
Love what you do, thanks for all the hard work. You guys are killing it.
Thanks!
"why can't we play the piano like we breathe?"
come back here when you find this line (i believe it's a lettering) in your herzog journey ;-)
It’s okay to say “you guys”, saying what “you people” just doesn’t roll off the tongue 😛. Also it would be great if designers were better at housing and making their own archive a priority. Trying to go back and get this information especially prior to the digital age is a rough go.
Oh i would LOVE to have a coffee with you two. You seem to be the only people that see fashion exactly the way i do and i NEED to have a interesting enjoyable and fun conversation about fashion ASAP
Ive always had a streamlined taste in music but the music that BFRND creates makes me feel so immersed which, actually, proves your point. I listen to it outside the runway presentation. Everytime they come on i always feel like im there on the runway, that i am a representation of this immense world that is being created. But thats a part of the show, to immerse you in the world. Music allows us to feel a connection to the show, pieces and designer as it is non-visual. To be able to create a world from just music and allow the viewer, the model, the composer and anyone who is a part of it to immediately feel a part of the journey. BFRND makes me feel close to Balenciaga. It draws us closer and i love that.
18:12 I can’t speak for the rest of your viewership. But I absolutely would watch that Video. Maybe do a poll. I don’t know how much that will help. However given that no one has really done it or is going too. The video could really blow. 🤷🏽♂️ Especially with a little TikTok build up/roll out behind it
I’ve been thinking about archive accounts and their importance in the industry. You talked quite a bit archives and what you would like in a fashion archive, but could you touch on why they are important and the impact they can have?
Thanks for all you do! Love your videos!
i always appreciate your videos, ive obtained most of my fashion knowledge from your videos and those videos led me to learn more about subjects and i appreciate this channel so much.
At 4:29, I can't get over that Balenciaga runway scene where the model has such large shoes. The scale on that. They're like 2x or 3x larger the size of the model's head.
i was talking you up to @FashionRoadman the other day, about your slyness - so i loved that you mentioned it: most people don't want to see criticism or new brands.
here's what i said, and i quote ;-)
"i like what @BlissFoster does. (did i tag him? can you tag him? i have the impression that i'm not able to tag people here and i don't know why). he goes to paris and sees ALL the shows he can. he is even brave enough to go to chiuri's dior - a trooper. and then he spends most of the time talking about designers no-one knows and even talking to them. and so he can have the bait, "know everything that happened in paris" but still just show us the weird stuff he likes."
Have you guys thought about creating products as a way of support? I know a lot of people would enjoy whether it's a mug or a shirt of some sorts with fashion history or just your personal sayings that we've come to love while watching your videos.
Hey y’all! I’ve been a Patreon for a while and I’m so happy that your content exists. I think fashion is an amazing art form and your journalist coverage and deep investigations really cement that truth.
This might be buried but I really value this content longform is a way I can draw and paint and then learn things. And knowing phone use is purposeful and intentional is a fresh criticism of our modern phone use
yes I watched FF Channel.. love it and discovering some new designers/brands you didn't know
Fashion and runway music, absolutely tremendous!
wales bonner actually had a spotify playlist for one of their shows! i can’t remember which one though
Thank you for making this content 🙏🏾
My pleasure, homie 💫💫
we NEED a Fashion Wiki and we need proper brand archives, I would do anything to make it happen
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This channel is pure gold
It's an interesting topic. It seems to me there may be multiple reasons. I wonder if it's slightly to give the models' walks a quality of dance, or at least slightly make peeps think about how the clothes move, since many seem to find that interesting.
Prada's Pradasphere uses music by Richie Hawtin :)
You are quite clever Bliss Foster🔍🕵️♂️👌🏽!
is like to think of the music chosen for a show is more of a “hey this is our vibration right now that I want you to feel”
“Fashion is important during runway shows” lol 0:27
LMAOOOO I FR HADNT NOTICED THAT 😭 😭
“Let’s be purposeful together”
alright, bliss :)
As an avid hip hop listener your Rick Ross impression was on point 😂😂😂
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i'd click on a new designer video tho as a designer myself
My favourite context you guys put out is your 'video essay' style content. All your context is amazing, but I just want you to know that it does not go un-noticed all the work you guy put into those incredible videos (and all the work you put into your other videos also)
That means a ton to us, thank you so much, Angus 🦾
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loved this. I really enjoy your points of view and interpretations about the art of fashion, been enjoying the long videos thus they are very informative and well made, honestly changed my world. just wanted to say that but also state that I actually find this short videos rlly pleasant as well because we can see more about your essence. loved the video from minute 15:00, the "not rant" about being purposeful with time, it's just so true, thank you :) will definitely join the patreon when im back on track with work, keep it up guys
Thanks so much for the kind words, Dr. Valez 💫💫
That was a pretty good Rick Ross impression 😂✅