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@MassimoDeBock yeah, Udyr doesn't have an ability that does one thing when it's toggled on and something else when it's toggled off, he had 4 different actives and could only use one at a time The comment replying jinx is half right, since that is a weapon change ability not a stance change ability If udyr had a single ability that could be toggled on or off then it would count for what our boi is trying to say about Aatrox, stance change mechanics are a staple of JRPGs which usually lets you switch between an aggressive stance, a balanced stance, and a defensive stance, and the idea is you would stay in the stance you picked at the start of the fight What Udyr does, is constantly switch stances, and I could be wrong but I believe old Udyr had cooldowns The reason Jinx has a weapon change and not a true stance change is it consumes mana for her to fire her rocket, effectively she uses mana like a kind of special ammo, then she runs out and has to return to base to get more "rockets" A true stance doesn't consume a resource like mana, it just is a togglable passive that helps in one of two basic areas, with a 3rd stance usually being for a compromise of each
Fun fact about Ezreal, at one point his W let him be a support in like 2012, 2013. Keria being a madman like he is got a shoutout for playing him support for the first time in well over a decade in a recent LCK game. Almost as funny as those times he was played Jungle and got a team into the LCS and when he got his second worlds skin lmao
@@Persona6Blue You are, those two sentences aren't connected with anything but Ezreal being the focus point. Keria is only mentioned in first paragraph, in the second "he" refers to Ezreal, not Keria. Wouldn't make sense to have a sentence "Almost as funny as those times Keria was played Jungle..." obviously. And the time bmac4 is referring to was when Runic Echo jungle item was so OP people took smite in mid just so they can buy it and play AP ezreal on mid. IIRC it transferred Ezreal's Q damage into being magic damage, so items like Void staff worked fully on it, it had mini splash Luden's Echo and had a sheen effect.
@@MrMrtvozornikim pretty sure they don’t refer to runic echo ezreal, but to an ezreal build with the ad jungle item. Otherwise this would have mentioned ezreal midlane instead. Maybe I misread, but I am pretty sure ezreal used to be played with the AD jungle item, when actually played in jungle.
@@tomwanders6022 Yeah it was a bit of ambiguous syntax on my part, my bad. Ezreal used to be played support once in awhile because of his W, it was that good. Ezreal has been just a weird champ, so much so he once could be played jungle and even has a skin (because SSG Haru played it) from being played Jungle.
Man, some of my best memories of the early days of messing around with friends was a Taric/Nunu bot lane. Shatter to lower the enemies armor, blood boil to boost both of our attack and move speeds, snowball to slow them, the stun on demand, and the aura toggle for quick trades. We had so much sustain as well, lol.
Fun anecdote: there was a rioter at pax prime one year back in the day that the NA summer playoffs were hosted whose choice of interaction before giving out skin codes was asking people what the most broken passive combo they could think of was. Most people were saying some combination of Zac, Anivia, and Aatrox. I said Volibear and Poppy. The moment of comprehension turning to fear was great.
@@legendary8764 Yes, he had another one. To quote fan wiki: 120 static CD: "When Volibear's health drops below 30% of his maximum health, he regenerates 30% of his maximum health over 6 seconds" And old poppy's passive is explained in the video. Yeah, holy shit, that fear is justified. D:
Curious if old Mordekaiser passive will show up, it was arguably the best passive in the entire game IMO. Converting ANY damage you deal into a shield sounds simple on paper, but i remember so many games where i was nearly immortal because of it.
leblanc before she got un-reworked was basically ryze but without ryze's weaknesses. doesn't need to scale for late game to start dealing damage and her W-Q-passive combo is basically ryze E-Q but better
Nunu's Blood Boil was considered OP for a long time before they even added the AP granting component to it. In the early seasons of League Nunu support with Blood Boil max was meta just for the constant attack speed buff.
Well the fun thing about blood boil was that it was also usable on minions, which meant that in times of banner of command and zzrot Nunu could siege like crazy with an empowered cannon minion
Omg, you just made me remember that I mained old Nunu top lane against ranged toplaners. Let them kite all they want, they weren’t dodging the point and click snowball and i could sustain off eating minions.
Vars, I just want you to know that I got a Black Swan ad right before this and it infuriates me bc not only is it not actually her ult voice line, it’s also just grammatically incorrect bc they mesh 2 different voice lines together and it just comes out poorly
Regarding ezreal's W (the version without debuff/heal), with no modern runes like manaflow band you wouldn't level W at all until maxing out Q and E, it was rather clunky skillshot viable only for AP fooling around. For Ez to get attack speed from it he would need to throw W and waste E to get hit by it and considering there was no mobility creep like today cost was too big.
Said it before but I'll say it again just in case. Original draven passive. Basically ranged darius that hit way harder. I was there for it on release, and it SUCKED to be adc till the change
Old Poppy with the right runes set up + old Jungle items is horrified. It basically negate Poppy main weakness, weak early game. She can powerfarm through jungle with reasonable speed which become more scary when she get some level. And when she level 6, Her ganking potential is ridiculous since she just dive your tower with other teammate and doesn''t care a bit about Tower or Support. She can jsut walk into the lane from behind tower , ult you , push you toward her teammate and start beating the shit out of you with no care in the world.
I'm actually thinking - maybe Valiant Fighter could be re-introduced as a tank item specifically against true damage? That definitely will give at least an option against the %hp true damage at least (well, it probably will be kind of mandatory, but then is the question - which slot are you willing to give up for it)
If you go to this guys channel, click on playlist and start it, and then keep skipping the videos. It sounds like hes trying to say "Hey Guys" in as many ways possible.
Poppy was never much of an issue even with passive and ultimate because she heavily needed items and had terrible wave clear. If poppy ever got to 3-4 items they were probably going to win the game regardless
make never surrender a setting that can be checked by anyone, that makes it so the surrender popup never show up, if they want to surrender, they can go into the setting and uncheck it so next time the popup will show
Poppy was the single best assassin that has ever existed in the game. With critting magic damage, mobility, and her ult giving a huge % damage increase on the target and making her immune to other targets, a late game Poppy could just kill whatever one person she wanted. Playing her burst assassin was her best, and intended role. Fighter is actually what got her removed from the game since she would just ult the support and fight everyone else when she couldn't be damaged at all. That was a toxic play pattern. And the worst part is, it didn't even work most of the time. If the enemy team knew how to scatter when you ulted the support, it was a 100% worthless tactic, whereas the assassin play pattern worked almost every time late game and was a reliable deletion of a strong unit. Her original intended concept is still kinda alive in the form of Mordekaiser, but it's way more counterable since you can just end his ult outright with QSS and QSS-like abilities (you could only remove the bonus damage from her ult) and he's immobile, unlike Poppy who was both very fast with her W and had a dash as well with her E. And of course, in that era of the rework, they'd just turn any melee champion that wasn't obviously a melee ADC (aka had a shield or passive defensive ability) into a tank...which is why Poppy is a tank now.
Its sad we dont have so many Auras anymore. For example in Smite there are entire Item trees around Aura Items that Tank Support build to become the beefy beating heart of the team comp. Unkillable CC Machines that jack up their team mates. Aura-Kephri is just so fucking fun
To quote UberDanger: "LeBlanc's rework was so good, they undid it!" Personally, I actually agree with him. LB was certainly broken back then, but the problem is she was so much fun to play in that rework, as it increased her skill expression by a large margin. Current LB feels weak in most situations, especially in low elo.
@@Dominicus1165 maybe not useful in lane but in a team fight how could it not be OP? Again assuming you can use it at good times. Definitely think his current w is better with his kit
ekko still does over 3k damage. I have seen multiple times he will clip me with both parts of the Q then E for the third proc and the total number of all his BS in one hit is 3400 something
Blood Thirst/Price should've stayed with "New" Aatrox idc how they do it, it should've stayed LeBlanc should've still kept the "mimic" of her R after her revert. The one where she creates a clone whenever she uses her R, just to keep her "Deceiver" feel. RR had to go because it was global but the R clone should've stayed
Can you Cover Talons old Passiv (Mercy)? It was so useless on him, since they removed his Silence. Maybe as a bonus, because I think there is not that much to say about it.
As a Dota player I get a little chuckle out of these videos. I mean a 5 second, 40% attack speed buff for your team and debuff for enemies if they all happen to line up in a straight line and get hit by a tiny golden projectile. Way too strong, OMG Riot wtf! It's so weird how weak these abilities seem to me but how easily they break the balance of the game.
the thing i find funny, is all of these abilities are still infinitly worse, than camille being handed tristana's entire kit on a basic ability, as well of cho'gaths ult on a second basic ability and then also having her own high impact ultimate ability XD also yes, as someone forced to play adc all the time, i would kill to have an adc who had no kit, nothing, just 600 range, and poppy's old passive.
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Have you covered old Draven passive? i wish i could have played during those times.
Saying old aatrox is the only champ to ever have stances is crazy considering old Udyr was a thing
Udyr doesn’t just have stance changes, he IS stance changes.
Jinx
@@MassimoDeBockyeah i would argue that’s a better example jinx works perfectly for that
@MassimoDeBock yeah, Udyr doesn't have an ability that does one thing when it's toggled on and something else when it's toggled off, he had 4 different actives and could only use one at a time
The comment replying jinx is half right, since that is a weapon change ability not a stance change ability
If udyr had a single ability that could be toggled on or off then it would count for what our boi is trying to say about Aatrox, stance change mechanics are a staple of JRPGs which usually lets you switch between an aggressive stance, a balanced stance, and a defensive stance, and the idea is you would stay in the stance you picked at the start of the fight
What Udyr does, is constantly switch stances, and I could be wrong but I believe old Udyr had cooldowns
The reason Jinx has a weapon change and not a true stance change is it consumes mana for her to fire her rocket, effectively she uses mana like a kind of special ammo, then she runs out and has to return to base to get more "rockets"
A true stance doesn't consume a resource like mana, it just is a togglable passive that helps in one of two basic areas, with a 3rd stance usually being for a compromise of each
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Fun fact about Ezreal, at one point his W let him be a support in like 2012, 2013. Keria being a madman like he is got a shoutout for playing him support for the first time in well over a decade in a recent LCK game.
Almost as funny as those times he was played Jungle and got a team into the LCS and when he got his second worlds skin lmao
Am I misunderstanding cuz Keria has only won a single world championship so he should only have one worlds skin
He is talkong about ssg Ez@@Persona6Blue
@@Persona6Blue You are, those two sentences aren't connected with anything but Ezreal being the focus point. Keria is only mentioned in first paragraph, in the second "he" refers to Ezreal, not Keria. Wouldn't make sense to have a sentence "Almost as funny as those times Keria was played Jungle..." obviously.
And the time bmac4 is referring to was when Runic Echo jungle item was so OP people took smite in mid just so they can buy it and play AP ezreal on mid. IIRC it transferred Ezreal's Q damage into being magic damage, so items like Void staff worked fully on it, it had mini splash Luden's Echo and had a sheen effect.
@@MrMrtvozornikim pretty sure they don’t refer to runic echo ezreal, but to an ezreal build with the ad jungle item.
Otherwise this would have mentioned ezreal midlane instead.
Maybe I misread, but I am pretty sure ezreal used to be played with the AD jungle item, when actually played in jungle.
@@tomwanders6022 Yeah it was a bit of ambiguous syntax on my part, my bad. Ezreal used to be played support once in awhile because of his W, it was that good. Ezreal has been just a weird champ, so much so he once could be played jungle and even has a skin (because SSG Haru played it) from being played Jungle.
Man, some of my best memories of the early days of messing around with friends was a Taric/Nunu bot lane. Shatter to lower the enemies armor, blood boil to boost both of our attack and move speeds, snowball to slow them, the stun on demand, and the aura toggle for quick trades. We had so much sustain as well, lol.
Wasnt this Nunu blood boil version also the one that caused the duoQ nightmare where Karthus + Nunu was used to counter Master Yi + Taric?
Do not speak of past horrors my child. Let the demons sleep and dont disturb them
A shiver just ran through my spine, don't ever mention that again
seeing courtesy of anklespankin triggers my happy memories. I absolutely grew up watching that guy.
I learned english through this guy.
my teachers did not approve of some of my word choices
Fun anecdote: there was a rioter at pax prime one year back in the day that the NA summer playoffs were hosted whose choice of interaction before giving out skin codes was asking people what the most broken passive combo they could think of was. Most people were saying some combination of Zac, Anivia, and Aatrox. I said Volibear and Poppy. The moment of comprehension turning to fear was great.
on the same champion? Oh god.
Why is that broken? It's strong, but it's really doesn't look that bad (unless passives were different back then?)
@@legendary8764 Yes, he had another one. To quote fan wiki:
120 static CD: "When Volibear's health drops below 30% of his maximum health, he regenerates 30% of his maximum health over 6 seconds"
And old poppy's passive is explained in the video.
Yeah, holy shit, that fear is justified. D:
Curious if old Mordekaiser passive will show up, it was arguably the best passive in the entire game IMO.
Converting ANY damage you deal into a shield sounds simple on paper, but i remember so many games where i was nearly immortal because of it.
he has a whole video talking about mordekaiser and it's honestly one of his best videos in case you haven't watched it
5:55 Rengar and Kog'Maw were both also un-reworked :)
Ah yes 5.0 attack speed before lethal tempo rune
Rengar just Q revert. Everything else is still the rework.
rengar kept his reworked kit except Q though. leblanc was fully reverted
@@lillyie true i guess, but still his q was reverted haha
bring back 5.0 kog. "riot wont punish scripters" is not an excuse.
leblanc before she got un-reworked was basically ryze but without ryze's weaknesses. doesn't need to scale for late game to start dealing damage and her W-Q-passive combo is basically ryze E-Q but better
Old Aatrox stance should be directly ported to Trynda when he eventually gets a VGU.
Nunu's Blood Boil was considered OP for a long time before they even added the AP granting component to it. In the early seasons of League Nunu support with Blood Boil max was meta just for the constant attack speed buff.
Well the fun thing about blood boil was that it was also usable on minions, which meant that in times of banner of command and zzrot Nunu could siege like crazy with an empowered cannon minion
Isn't Jinx basically a stance changer too ? If we consider Aatrox a stance changer, Jinx is basically the same. Replace the HP cost with Mana cost.
Guys go and eat lunch. Vars just did a video
Crazy to think about how Zoe was in the same game as old Nunu
she was also named OpenAI, same name as ChatGPT company
"Leblanc was the only champ in league history that had to be reverted due to being too overpowered"
*Sad turret Kog'maw noises*
Rengar two part q :^)
@@dylantran1695
that period of time was so short I completely forgot it even existed omg XD ty for the reminder
@@dylantran1695 wasn't it because the Q just felt clunky too use?
Isnt Jinx a stance changer?
ok, so that's one of the most interesting subjects ever. and it's that strong cause it's a bit more timeless? (maybe)
10:14, that old poppy face is so cursed.
Thank god they change it. Right now, Poppy is so breedab..... I mean beautiful.
Call me poppy :)
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Omg, you just made me remember that I mained old Nunu top lane against ranged toplaners. Let them kite all they want, they weren’t dodging the point and click snowball and i could sustain off eating minions.
old nunu e and old ezreal w was the nofun comp for the enemy adc i ran with my friend
Vars, I just want you to know that I got a Black Swan ad right before this and it infuriates me bc not only is it not actually her ult voice line, it’s also just grammatically incorrect bc they mesh 2 different voice lines together and it just comes out poorly
Regarding ezreal's W (the version without debuff/heal), with no modern runes like manaflow band you wouldn't level W at all until maxing out Q and E, it was rather clunky skillshot viable only for AP fooling around. For Ez to get attack speed from it he would need to throw W and waste E to get hit by it and considering there was no mobility creep like today cost was too big.
I miss old Galio ult
8:46
- Walks into lane, uses ultimate.
- Leaves.
- Refuses to elaborate.
3:45 thats basically how he is now though, his passive being the empowered damage AND heal, reduced by AA and ability damage
You asked Riot to revisit Aatrox old W, but it's basically Xin's passive now.
Oof I remember old Soraka. Point and click silence/mana restore is crazy.
I miss old fiddle
Said it before but I'll say it again just in case. Original draven passive. Basically ranged darius that hit way harder. I was there for it on release, and it SUCKED to be adc till the change
Kogmaw also got reverted to his base, not just Leblanc. Kog used to be this on hit ramping turret play style until they scrapped it
I'd honestly love to see some of Old Soraka's Abilities, whether it be her MR shredding, her super silence or her massive armour buff on her heal.
Seeing all that old gameplay, those old icons and the old map makes me so happy and sad at the same time. I wish we could play old League again :(
6:20
LeBlanc wasn’t the only reverted rework… Kog’Maw, Kha’Zix and Rengar also got reverted
Rengar also got un-reworked after the same big assasin changes as LeBlanc got in 2017
For the next part you should talk about the reworked yummi ult that gave the person she was on armor and mr scaling with yummis ap
Old Poppy with the right runes set up + old Jungle items is horrified. It basically negate Poppy main weakness, weak early game. She can powerfarm through jungle with reasonable speed which become more scary when she get some level. And when she level 6, Her ganking potential is ridiculous since she just dive your tower with other teammate and doesn''t care a bit about Tower or Support. She can jsut walk into the lane from behind tower , ult you , push you toward her teammate and start beating the shit out of you with no care in the world.
It just hit me that you sound like Emvee and now I can’t unhear it
I'm actually thinking - maybe Valiant Fighter could be re-introduced as a tank item specifically against true damage? That definitely will give at least an option against the %hp true damage at least (well, it probably will be kind of mandatory, but then is the question - which slot are you willing to give up for it)
If you go to this guys channel, click on playlist and start it, and then keep skipping the videos. It sounds like hes trying to say "Hey Guys" in as many ways possible.
Poppy was never much of an issue even with passive and ultimate because she heavily needed items and had terrible wave clear. If poppy ever got to 3-4 items they were probably going to win the game regardless
Havent Even watched yet but Taric should get his old kit back except E 😅😅😅😅
make never surrender a setting that can be checked by anyone, that makes it so the surrender popup never show up, if they want to surrender, they can go into the setting and uncheck it so next time the popup will show
video does feel a bit rushed tho. kinda wanna watch it at 0.85x speed?
Lol i started playign the game hearing about how hilarious poppy was, never got to play her that way
I sow old aatrox balde, I felt happy
Sow?
@@captainMony Balde?
@@riccardodrera4564Happy?
Seeing these old clips makes me miss Dominion. Maybe hype it so Riot brings it back. I used to abuse old Soraka as a tank mage in it so hard.
Isn't like, Jinx is a stance change? No?
I miss Ezreals old W. I was an AP Ezreal main... i still like to play it sometimes but god its so fucking bad now
I think a lot of characters would like poppy's old passive. Almost all tanks, drain tanks, adcs...
When I switched to toplane.
And I wanted to main aatrox because I liked his on hit. They completely removed him.
It was pretty sad
I realy liked runic skin from old galio
My favorite removed ability was mords dragon
13:08 that's basically taric jungle nowadays
Abilities That Were DELETED From League Of Legends: Zeri Episode
Babe wake up, new Vars video dropped! ❤
Poppy was the single best assassin that has ever existed in the game. With critting magic damage, mobility, and her ult giving a huge % damage increase on the target and making her immune to other targets, a late game Poppy could just kill whatever one person she wanted. Playing her burst assassin was her best, and intended role. Fighter is actually what got her removed from the game since she would just ult the support and fight everyone else when she couldn't be damaged at all. That was a toxic play pattern. And the worst part is, it didn't even work most of the time. If the enemy team knew how to scatter when you ulted the support, it was a 100% worthless tactic, whereas the assassin play pattern worked almost every time late game and was a reliable deletion of a strong unit.
Her original intended concept is still kinda alive in the form of Mordekaiser, but it's way more counterable since you can just end his ult outright with QSS and QSS-like abilities (you could only remove the bonus damage from her ult) and he's immobile, unlike Poppy who was both very fast with her W and had a dash as well with her E.
And of course, in that era of the rework, they'd just turn any melee champion that wasn't obviously a melee ADC (aka had a shield or passive defensive ability) into a tank...which is why Poppy is a tank now.
Wow, Old Ezreal is disgusting. Still disgusting to this day.
-Sane Draven main
Does Jinx Q not count as a stance change?
Paragon of demacia
I think they could Nerf sigil of malice damage to minions and bring back the reworked leblanc with current items
kog maw also got reverted (his W used to double his attack speed reduce his damage and double his attack speed cap)
God i moss old aatrox. Had so much fun going devourer jungle and soloing baaron at 20
Throw this riven garbage in the trash and bring back the real aatrox riot.
Isn't jinx 1st skill a stance change??
Its sad we dont have so many Auras anymore. For example in Smite there are entire Item trees around Aura Items that Tank Support build to become the beefy beating heart of the team comp. Unkillable CC Machines that jack up their team mates. Aura-Kephri is just so fucking fun
Mini rework aatrox was perfect,i still don't know to this day why it was deleted from the game
To quote UberDanger: "LeBlanc's rework was so good, they undid it!"
Personally, I actually agree with him. LB was certainly broken back then, but the problem is she was so much fun to play in that rework, as it increased her skill expression by a large margin. Current LB feels weak in most situations, especially in low elo.
I still find it astounding how AP items constantly have to suck to not break LeBlanc.
Man that Ezreal W sounds insane, at least it was skill expressive with his E but I’m glad I never had to fight that.
It really wasn’t. It was removed because it was not too useful. Current W is far better.
@@Dominicus1165 maybe not useful in lane but in a team fight how could it not be OP? Again assuming you can use it at good times. Definitely think his current w is better with his kit
Valiant Fighter? I thought something was off with a similar augment effect in WR Arena last month. Guess it was this removed ability.
Rengar rework was also essentially completely reverted.
ekko still does over 3k damage. I have seen multiple times he will clip me with both parts of the Q then E for the third proc and the total number of all his BS in one hit is 3400 something
1:39 Jinx Q is also a stance change, no?
Jinx is a stance changer
Blood Thirst/Price should've stayed with "New" Aatrox idc how they do it, it should've stayed
LeBlanc should've still kept the "mimic" of her R after her revert. The one where she creates a clone whenever she uses her R, just to keep her "Deceiver" feel. RR had to go because it was global but the R clone should've stayed
Rengar was reverted too because he was op, not only leblanc
Can you Cover Talons old Passiv (Mercy)? It was so useless on him, since they removed his Silence. Maybe as a bonus, because I think there is not that much to say about it.
Actually most of the guys from the assasin rework were reverted. Fizz was reverted, Ranger was reverted, Kha zix was reverted, Zed was reverted
Kog maw also got deworked like leblanc
As a Dota player I get a little chuckle out of these videos. I mean a 5 second, 40% attack speed buff for your team and debuff for enemies if they all happen to line up in a straight line and get hit by a tiny golden projectile. Way too strong, OMG Riot wtf! It's so weird how weak these abilities seem to me but how easily they break the balance of the game.
They removed our ability to survive combat with adcs and assassines.
When will we see vars mentioning xeraths original kit. The guy was already ignored in the rework ranking video.
"the only stance change ability" what about jinx and urgot?????
fuckkkkk i miss ap nunu so much 😭 that was my go to pick whenever i had 180 ping
Man I miss the old aatrox
Please add old zeri passive or ult on the next episode, thats all people tqlk obout on their subreddit
God I miss old champ designs, they were so fun, too bad games become meta driven no fun allowed products
I've never seen old Aatrox do what new Aatrox did the last 2 world championships.. just sayin
the thing i find funny, is all of these abilities are still infinitly worse, than camille being handed tristana's entire kit on a basic ability, as well of cho'gaths ult on a second basic ability and then also having her own high impact ultimate ability XD
also yes, as someone forced to play adc all the time, i would kill to have an adc who had no kit, nothing, just 600 range, and poppy's old passive.
Jinx also is a stance changer and i think she is older than aatrox
She is not
Poppy is still uber brain dead negating a billion damage 💔💔💔
Best league content creater.
Would Jinx Q not count as a stance change?
1:55 you don't know what coup de grâce means, do you?
08:22 OpenAI
Can u do everything wrong with twitch? he seems to be a very polarizing champion
Aatrox was the only? What about jinx?
I liked old Poppy, even though her artwork sucked