Marco Rubio and President Trump Stumble Through Gun Control Debates: The Daily Show
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- Parents and student survivors of the Parkland school shooting call out Marco Rubio's NRA donations at a CNN town hall, and President Trump proposes questionable gun control.
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Can you imagine teachers carrying guns to class in a public school. Teachers are humans too they might suffer a mental breakdown in class
ChasdielOfTheEnd Yes exactly! It's not a solution, but another issue we would have to worry about. If I was a parent I would rather homeschool my kid instead
Not just that, as some of the school-shooting students have pointed out in interviews, it would mean that guns are more accessible in schools via the teacher lockers/bags etc.
Of course the response was they would require gun-locks, trigger access and various other mechanisms to prevent a student grabbing a teacher's gun, but like a glock safety it would defeat most of the point in having teachers have guns in the first place.
thats why you would have ex police or military do it or even have a transition program for them Link: twitter.com/jockowillink/status/966753273771208706
We haven't even resolved the issue of keeping teachers from fucking their students yet, now this eh? What could go wrong?
shelly amor yes!
See, THIS is how we should make politicians like Rubio take action-Seize control of the conversation, force them to cut the bullcrap, and have them _directly answer the questions._
Heracross X Exactly, thank you. We need more Progressives running for this exact reason.
Tragic Event , BUT AT THE CNN TOWN HALL !! , its been learned via Local News Broadcast , , Persons with Questions that did not fit the CNN Anti Gun Agenda were told they had to use CNN Scripted Questions if they wanted to speak instead ! an ROTC Student wanted to talk about those person he knew had Military Training On Staff if maybe they could help protect Schools , Rejected though by CNN !
All politicians should be held accountable for their decisions
Love it!!
Its sad that you believe it.
0:23 It was at this moment that he knew...
He fucked up
Ikr, Rubio was like: "Yeah...I walked right into that one..."
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Jessie Roe : I think at 0:29 his face expression looks like he's saying: " I'm an idiot "
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LMAO he walked into something he set up. hahahahhahahha
I'm thinking is America actually a real country or a bad sitcom?
CO EH
I wager on a shitty reality show.
The answer is yes.
A failed state.
Why can't we be both?
Bad country, real sitcom.
"These people are cowards!" Says Capt.Bone-spurs.
This guy (Trump) has a tendency to call out people on their stupidity, insecurity, insanity, criminality, their looks, their perversion etc etc all while failing to see that he is all of the above and then some.
“No child get’s left behind” to “Sometimes little Timmy gotta get gunned”
The American government is poison!!
You make it seem like its a transition. "no child left behind" was as cynical a name for that program as the line of text over the gates of auschwitz saying "freedom through work"
Omniphage
It said “Arbeit Macht Frei” not Freedom Through Work..
Camilla V - "gotta get got"
This is the root of all the problems and I blame Dickens! Him and that horrible Tiny Tim... ruined my name forever ha ha 😀
Those Trump notes... are they for friggin real?? And that teacher in the end, I am willing to bet that he would heavily reconsider his words once his grandkids are amongst that "one" sacrificed to save others... there SHOULDN'T be a ONE in the 1st place!!
That slip of paper is the genuine article.
sonicboy678 that's either the saddest or most pathetic thing I've ever seen out of any man...
I am astounded that he can just be so nonchalant about the idea of accidentally shooting somebody. Good people can have a rough time dealing with killing people even when it’s justified. To be in a situation where kids are killed in front of me would be bad enough, but to know that I killed one of them myself would be horrifying.
He'd also reconsider if he is the one that ends up shooting and killing an innocent child in a situation like this. He would be reviled for that by the community and would probably end up burdened with guilt that he'd have to live with until he died.
The notes are indeed real. www.snopes.com/trump-crib-notes-parkland/
All i could think about when i saw T-rump in that meeting with the students was "keep T-rump away from the teenage girls!".
the rump!
Proud Bad Hombre got that almost right. Keep "creepy uncle" Joe Biden away from young girls. That man is very handsy.
Jason J Mitchell nice try, T-rump is the pervy in chief. He beats everyone, even Moore. I give u credit tho, you all cry "but Obama, but Hillary ", you got fresh and said "but Biden" 🤣😂
Indeed, serial sexual assaulter, "president" tRump, was probably salivating. He probably tried to recruit some of them into his beauty pageant.
Jason J Mitchell Hello, Jason. The "Biden photo", to which I believe you are probably referring, is a fake. You can read all about it on Snopes.
Why does Trump expect teachers to teach students and also be the Swat team.
Khan They don't get paid enough. Here in SC there's a shortage because they make them pay for their classroom materials. Frustrated and low pay why give them guns too.
Are these the same teachers that are molesting our children? Now let's give them guns. And what if the teacher snaps? We outlawed teachers hitting kids with rulers, but they can shoot, with accuracy a gunman with an AR-15.
I'm going to be honest: this is for me the largest hole in the plan. Let's forget the argument about whether or not it's a good idea to arm folks in a school to protect from future shooting. Let's just assume for sake of argument it is.
Teachers are NOT the ones who should get the gun for the simple fact that they are already trying to keep track of all their students, teach the class, grade papers, come up with lesson plans, actually LIVE a life (you know, because they are people with families). Where in the world are they going to get time to get fire arm training? *How can they be giving their class their full attention (already difficult as hell!) AND keeping on high alert for any potential shooters?* Hell, most teachers already feel overworked and tired as hell. A person who is running on 4 cups of coffee and nothing else is NOT the kind of person I want holding a gun around kids, no matter the kind of person they are normally.
Teachers are awesome, but they are still, ultimately, human. They CANNOT do everything. If the answer is truly "more good guys with guns" (I am NOT here to argue yay or nay on that), then have more policemen in the schools. Designate some other school staff to have the gun in case of emergencies. But don't expect this of teachers.
Because he is STUPID and IGNORANT...
And, what if the Swat Team comes in and sees a teacher with a gun - oops that was a teacher? Well, that WAS a teacher! STUPID and IGNORANT is correct, and Trumplethinskin has SO much more to offer......
Marco rubio: a lawmaker who doesn't believe in the power of the law
It is called a woke Lawmaker. It's like when do-gooders go to join the police but then realized he needs to play ball or call out the shitty system for what it is... brutal and unfair.
Ryu Cartel - Simply ban all military guns and the clips and bullets for those guns. Pretty simple. You don't have to collect the guns. They'll be useless without the clips and bullets. Some may be able to make their own bullets, etc. But that still makes it very difficult for some young kid to go buy an assault weapon if they are no longer for sale. And the folks that do still have those weapons are probably saving up their bullets and hiding everything away for the day when they need to do battle with the evil government - good luck with that!
@Ryu Cartel
You are very knowledgable and logical. You need to go to Parkland and explain all that you wrote here, to the parents and family members of the 14 kids and 3 adults that were killed. I'm CERTAIN they will see reason in your logic and agree with you. Hell, you might even be able to sell them all guns.
A word of advice, though. If you DO decide to try to explain your logical and perfectly sensible take on the instruments that caused the deaths of their loved ones, (and the perfectly logical reasons for NOT doing anything to strengthen the toothless "laws" that DIDN'T protect them), you might want to take your OWN gun with you, cause I get the feeling you will need to add to the gun violence death toll in in this country if you DO try to convince them that their kids died to protect YOUR rights.
Otherwise, your right wing/NRA talking points mean ZERO and have just as much merit, as meaning.
@Ryu Cartel
They are the standard apologetics that both groups, and all you sad-sack acolytes OF those groups, trot out EVERY TIME there is a tragedy of this kind. And not A DAMN ONE OF YOU COWARDS will spout your bullsh*t to the families and loved ones of the victims because you already KNOW you might not make it out of that kind of meeting in one piece.
They are NRA and Right wing Talking points.
Period.
You people are pathetic losers who have nothing going for you, and the NRA/Right Wing's hand up your ass. Crawl back down your Rabbit hole, stroke your gun until it discharges, and fantasize about mowing down hordes of "cartel members" and "terrorists" at the Southern border.
In words that even a DUMB F*CK like YOU can understand,
Get the F*CK outta my face.
There was a time when the only friendly fire kids had to worry about was in dodgeball.
KingOfMadCows Which, ironically enough, has been banned in a LOT of schools nationwide. Lol
ChasdielOfTheEnd Sadly. Yes.
@ChasdielOfTheEnd
Welcome to Crazy World...where nothing can possibly go wrong, 'click'...go wrong, 'click', go wrong...
@HardCharger
I'm telling my age but I got that line from the original trailer for Westworld.
th-cam.com/video/LcL3eP0Hfy4/w-d-xo.html
I always liked it and don't get a lot of chances to use it, but when I do it usually gets a laugh or two.
Friendly fire- isn’t.
I've never agreed with Rubio's policies, but I'm glad he didn't hide from the difficult conversation like others in his party and is taking a hard look at his views.
Now he wishes he never went there.
If someone isn't evaluating a problem from both sides of the argument they probably aren't worth talking to.
Kids Live's Matter.
Mike Walker, Good one, yes they do.
I'll be waiting for the: NO!!! ALL LIVES MATTER!
Brainwashed right wing scum better have that same energy they had over the BLM statement.
12happytime except I don't see a KLM group rampaging through the streets and calling it a peaceful protest. You leftists are a real show huh
Only White Kids though right? 30 kids were murdered in streets Chicago last month. Are you going to march for them?
Trump to ban HD cameras with looong zooms in the white house.
Is that close up real? Surely not, surely he can't be that incompetent.
if it was fake you bet he would bet that's literally the only thing he would be tweeting about
why nobody talks about the real issue here: guns = money
that's why politician can't get rid of gun
human life keeps getting cheaper and cheaper
People talk about that all the time dude. This is just one video
Rage Studios It's not that simple. It's a failure in the
system itself, above all else..
The stupid thong is that the second amendment has “well regulated” as a requirement/reason for allowing people to own guns. Never mind that the weapons and scales evolved. And sorry, but people are wrong when they dismiss that argument because guns can kill 10+ people per person with ease, instead of one with moderate difficulty. It’s almost as if some things might not have been such a good idea in hindsight...
@Rage Studios .. wow, just wow, that you think people don't talk about guns and money
as a duch i cry for the kids ,,,,,,,,,,,, but just dump guns , protest with all and the lobby will go down."
we have shootings here too but not as bad as with you.
if you allow all to have militairy guns its asking for idiots to shoot people
I said before I’ll say it again...
If some of my teachers had guns.... It wouldn’t be pretty.
My school had a teacher once throw a desk at a student's head...I feel like he might not have made a good choice if he'd had a gun on him.
And if they were normal people, imagine having to perhaps shoot one of your own students
Or some students start a school shooting by stealing the gun from the teachers belt :P
Jessie Roe *aims shotgun at kid* 'What do you mean you didn't do your homework?!'
Why go after them? U sick, go get help!
I lost it when Noah said mar a lago of the north. Way to slip in that bit.
Emmanuel Alejandro iij
yeah
Fun fact: Mar-a-Lago, the White House and many GOP public appearance locations are GUN FREE ZONES
Emmanuel Alejandro Well, Trump himself called Mar a Lago the Souhern White House. I say that jab is fair play.
But but Trump said Mar A Lago of the north was a dump.
When he said the teachers would get a bonus😂😂😂
"A little bit of a bonus." I loved how he qualified that. Don't get too excited about that potential bonus, Teachers!
One of the weirdest things I’ve ever heard. And if I don’t want to carry a gun? I’m to be penalized for that? I am going to make less money because I don’t want to shoot people? Yeah, that wouldn’t go over well. Wage discrimination lawsuit waiting to happen. If teachers wanted to be charged with protecting people from shooters, they would have been cops.
I heard his nonsense rambling on the television earlier in the day, but didn't listen in as much. I was eating food as I was watching this and had to stop mid-chew to say "wait, what the fuck?"
Deb Kelly Right. Kind of like how everyone is going to get a big decrease in taxes or a bigger paycheck-just another lie...
As a person living in a third world country, I used to want to go to america when I was a little kid. but now, not so much, Japan and SK seems to be a nicer place
Just out of curiosity... Why those three countries?
Japan probably might be a nice place. South Korea is WAY too close to North Korea you should not go there they are not too faraway from a dictator controlled nation.
It's funny you picked those two countries over the US. Look up their suicide rates and tell me they are nicer places
K Bob look up murder rates in the US and say the same
We have ~5 per million vs ~1 per million in Japan, and ~2.5 per million in South Korea. I just figured out why it's so low in Japan. Read up on their prison system
Honestly, and I know this is a low standard, but I am just glad that Rubio attended and listened. He listened. He easily could have stayed at home and refused to come to the town hall. Easily. And I don't even care if he's just doing this for his reputation - I'm just glad he's listening.
but he's pretty much not, though. I know where you're coming from, but what you just said is exactly the reason he did the town hall and no more. they know if they just show up and pretend to give a fuck we'll back down every time until the next one happens.
Mandy C, did you watch the town hall meeting? Because it didn't sound like that to me.
Marco also defended against the conspiracy theory that these were actors, saying "Claiming some of the students on tv after #Parkland are actors is the work of a disgusting group of idiots with no sense of decency"
He may have the wrong end of the gun issue, but he does seem to be trying to do what's right, so I can respect him without agreeing with him.
That opening with Marco Rubio being blindsided was the greatest thing I've ever seen!
Let’s dispel with this fiction that Marco Rubio knows what he’s doing. He has no idea what he’s doing.
BlaineTog The funniest thing was that he thought he could get the audience on his side.
Caity J.
Teachers shouldn’t have guns on them. It’s so wrong to expect teachers to also be bodyguards and risk their lives for our kids. That is not what they signed up for when they became teachers. They’re teachers. How dare Trump suggest this as a solution and then say those who carry guns get a bonus? They’re so underpaid and use so much of their own money and time outside of the class to teach our children, but somehow we’ll get the money to equipped them and they’ll finally be rewarded. Man, get the fuck out with that. Teachers are so often under appreciated and under estimated in all the hard work they put in and everything they have to deal with for our kids. They should be able to do their jobs without worrying about risking their lives to save our kids from a shooter.
Idiotic, you say that teachers are not worried about risking their lives for their students? Why did Aron Feis the assistant football coach doing when he threw himself in front of kids, sacrificing himself for their lives. I don't think all teachers should have guns, but id rather not have teachers being bullet sponges for their students.
Cagey Sign huh? I agree with your comment. I thought that’s the point I made in my comment ... there was no need for name calling 😔.
I humbly apologize for the name, i meant it toward the words not you specifically. The whole discussion gets me heated so please understand. But what I was trying to get across was that I believe that at least a few teachers should have guns. That way there is at least a chance of the shooter being taken out. The act Feis made to save his students is one not many would take and I found that powerful. I just hope next time more good men don't have to make that sacrifice.
Cagey Sign got it, and thank you for the apology. I got worried that maybe I didn’t make my point clear and oh no, all these people are liking it for the wrong reason. I would prefer no guns on teachers, but I get what you’re saying and it is such a heated topic now. I made a similar comment on another video and it became that comment where it exploded and I gave up even trying to respond to anyone. My best friend is a teacher and in general I have a lot of respect for what they do and one thing I don’t expect is for them to put their lives on the line. My kid has dyslexia and the most I expect from teachers is to please help her a little extra get the reading down.
Or you could just stop the bad guy from getting a gun in the first place. You know like all other civilized nations do.
Coming from a non-American the fear that your government, the people that you chose and who are held in control by your Constitution that you so deeply believe in will someday turn against you, thus you have to keep your armed weaponry is totally ill conceived. Even if the US government turns against its people which has an extremely low probability of happening due to all these checks and balances, everyday citizens stand zero chance against the millitary. So keeping and supporting military grade weapons is totally irresponsible and idiotic.
Mohit Garg The Black Panthers tried to challenge a tyrannical government with arms, they met the very definition of the Second Amendment and they were disarmed anyway. To think that US government which has demonstrated massive domestic and geopolitical tyranny is not something that the Citizens of the US should be wary of is absurd but equally absurd is the idea that a corrupt and tyrannical government would ever let its enemies use it’s constitution against it. As it stands it’s the right wing radicals who are at their core active supporters of the state and capital and proponents of tyranny who benefit from the Second Amendment and not people victimised by the United States government. Indeed the Second Amendment ultimately exists to serve the interests of the state and not the interests of the people.
You assume the entire military would side with the government if the federal government turns totalitarian, which is not a guarantee. Each state has a national guard force.
Mohit Garg we have done it once. we ended up killing 665.000 people in that war. why wouldn't we do it again. Americans love to fight it's what we do. we like beer weman fighting fast cars and drugs we are a nation of degenerate slobs and we embrace stupid this is how we do.
"everyday citizens stand zero chance against the millitary." That's is why the War in Vietnam and the War in Afghanistan were total successes right? An armed populace is not something to underestimate. Air craft carriers and drones cannot enforce martial law. You need people on street corners. There is a reason why the first thing every fascist dictator in modern history did was disarm the civilian population. America would be a very difficult place to "occupy" and the reason is because we have the Second Amendment. I agree that the probability of a fascist taking control is remote due to the system of checks and balances that you mentioned, however to discount to the purpose of the Second Amendment is rash.
Paintbl99 very true! But let me ask a question do we really need ar-15's thou? or any other weapon that can be modified to full auto? There's no point in that.
Why it’s not about Second Amendment rights, but money:
Handguns cost an average of between $500 and $800 each. If anyone seriously thought that “the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun”, then one handgun should not be the price of _two Nintendo Switches._
One is clearly the better investment and it’s the one that isn’t taking lives.
I agree, the Nintendo Switch is too expensive
One handgun = Two Nintendo Switches...
Both I don't need, but I can pretty much tell what's more bang for my buck... and it ain't the firearm.
The problem with the good guys with guns vs bad guys with guns argument is that either way somebody ends up dead. And too often it gets blurry. Taking an example recently bad guy goes into store tries to run out with some product. Wannabe hero customer, good guy with a gun tells him to stop. Bad guy doesn’t and gets shot. So yeah the first person is a bad guy, but the second person just killed someone (well he didn’t die but he could have). Who’s really the bad guy. Not saying that people don’t have the right to defend themselves or their property, but when tensions are high we are not our best when it comes to judgment and having a gun makes it more likely you’ll use it in hard situations rather than attempting something else. I will take the switch. It’s a lot less stressful.
@Ashley Pierson
"...having a gun makes it more likely you’ll use it in hard situations rather than attempting something else..."
Exactly.
That's Common Sense and my parents always told me that Common Sense prevails. The problem is, Common Sense ain't so common no more.
IF MY TEACHER HAD A GUN i wouldnt go to school!
Because you're a sensitive snowflake
Kaden McFarlin or he is being smart. How can we trust a random teacher with a fire arm.
yeah and teachers sometimes get depressed or angry at pupils! thats dicipline through fear. thats dictarory stuff!
It sounds like you didn't go anyways
Arming teachers would only make Black students or any other student who is already negatively singled out, even more of a target. Arming teachers would only give my mother more reasons to worry about my little brother when she sends him off to school.
Denae Carmelino not to mention bring about more chances that faculty of color could be shot outside of the school for concealed carry lest we forget people like Philando Castille. How many would quit because they just aren’t getting paid enough for that mess?
It would also be bad for the police as the knowledge of more civilians with heat would not help itchy trigger fingers on the force, who are already afraid.
Luka Popovic and yet more unarmed black men suffer from police brutality. The special needs teacher that was laying on the ground was shot trying to get a special needs child back inside. They will not be targeted.
Doc Holiday Who won't be targeted ? How does police violence has anything to do with mass school shootings ?
@0:16 See when you say it out loud it makes perfect sense!!🤔🤔
Daniel fountain makes sense in cuckoo land only
Harmeet Parashar Guns over kids!! #merica
Daniel fountain So you trust an America where the only guns are in the hands of police and government agencies? We are facing an administration that borders on tyrannical, and yet so many want to willingly give up what means of defense that is available.
Alex Sikar why the fuck does a 19 year old need an ar15 with a bump stock tho?
As far as stockpiling guns to one day fight a corrupt military, that's not going to happen. I'm not saying in the event of that to just toss you guns aside and lay back and take it, but even your most hardcore gun collectors have to admit something to themselves; if the government had a list of people dangerous to their regime and they were taking out everybody on the list and you were next in line, what gun you managed to get your hands on isn't going to matter. Forget an AR-15, get an M60 and take it into a fight with a tank, or even more likely missile equipped drones you never even see. Don't kid yourself.
Those kids just destroy rubio's political career. At least one down for good.
Wasn’t Philando Castille a concealed carry permit holder who worked for public schools?
noreaction Good Point🤔
Yeah...but he was black so it kinda negated legally owning a weapon🤷🏿♂️😢
😆 fair enough 👏👏👏
Tampatec, Noah looked very foolish.
When Trump said " I believe in giving the teachers a gun", the kids went like this 🤦♂️🤦♀️
Oh believe me, the vast majority of teachers did as well.
Specially seeing principle Elmer fudd might shot the wrong person and calling it you most break a few eggs to make an omelette. he should be fired for that comment alone smh
American politics make good comedy 😂😂😂😂
Fredo 5.- I hear you😊😊😁😁😁
Fredo f***, Conor McGregor Nate Diaz motherfuker$$$$$$$$ :-) :-)
Totally True
Sadly, it reads as more dead baby comedy sometimes
Fredo oh this isn’t politics. It’s a fucking petting zoo.
Sometimes it's not even one kid, have you seen other gun simulations!?
I doubt the "bonus" would cover the law suit after a teacher accidentally shot and killed one or more innocents while "standing his or her ground". Or his or her funeral after police mistakenly took them out for being an active shooter. And if they start wearing warning wests or s.t. similar: great way for the real gunman to get around being shot, too. The internet provides.
XXC0Y The lawsuit or criminal indictment that would be covered by tax payers-since it would be considered an act performed during the course of duty. Smh...
Might just as well end up ruining the teachers "saving 40 kids, but having an unfortunate accident with one". 'cause the whole thing is a quick-bandage publicity stunt anyway, no cop in their right mind would want more shooters in such an environment. So if Trump puts it in motion, they might not give a f*** for the responsibilities that would surely come with it.
that principle is despecible....it should be his son/daughter that sacrifices their life...then i will see if he stands on his posotion....i feel no sympathy for these kind of people
Hey, he is a desperate man with very hard choices to make. Hard choices thrust upon him by a government and society irrationally resistant to the idea of making prospective gun owners jump through a few more hoops to prove themselves trustworthy with a firearm. At best, tens of lives could be saved. At worst, some could die to friendly-fire. The only thing I think is clear-cut about this, is that a principal shouldn't even be presented this choice.
Maybe you should look up the definition of "sacrifice"......
Takata Miyagawa no just no. It doesn’t matter what is going on the safety of his students... all of his students is 100% his responsibility. If a student gets shot by a bad guy or accidentally by a teacher, that would be 100% his fault. Especially after this interview. Schools are already finding problems with guns being sold to children outside and inside schools. You would probably be surprised by how many of those students bought guns off teachers. I would feel more comfortable if there were metal detectors at every door rather than a teacher who could possibly shoot a child.
Shannon Hensley eh there was metal detectors every where in the high school I went too and 2 cops at the main door and 4 more in the school and we still had a guy get shot in the school parking lot. but then again the guy whongotnshot was running his mouth... So i guess it was Fair.
+That One Guy at 7/11 he didn't wish for it, chill the fuck out. It was an example to see if the principle would still be willing to say it was "acceptable".
I can't believe it's taking this long for us to finally talk about gun control😒😒
Elexis Jackson
Conservatives didn’t care after the slaughter of babies in Sandy Hook so why would they care now?
Agreed. Much respect to the Parkland, Florida folk. o_O
Kenzie Skye This world is messed up in ways that no human can explain, but just as a civilian we can only do what we can.
It's always been too soon to talk about it. Every time. Looks like it is currently time to talk about it.
i like how you group all conservatives into one box with your statement. your kind of rhetoric gets us nowhere. to think that conservatives don't care for another humans life is narrow minded.
I don't really understand the problem in banning guns...
If there is no gun, there won't be a bad guy with a gun
XXXEmpoleon well some people believe it’s so easy for bad people to get guns through the black market. Plus hunting rifles and handguns aren’t really the biggest issue
XXXEmpoleon Yeah there will. You can ban guns and people will still get them. They should ban them but don't sugar coat the reality that guns are still easy to get illegally. There are still corrupt people in the military, the police, and there's still gun runners in America.
Then we also have to hold gun manufacturers responsible for what the corrupt people do with their products. That would suddenly be curtailed fast if we could do that.
JG 1212 that’s the part of the gun control debate that the US isn’t having. You need a De-escalation of force on all sides and all sectors. The US police forces now have military equipment which is a threat. Our police in New Zealand can access guns but police don’t walk around with guns. Citizens can’t carry guns around but they can access them. That’s balanced. That being said the police have a monopoly on defence here and that’s an issue.
Don't say BAN guns (baby steps please). NO ONE is asking the USA to BAN AND GET RID of them. What the Democrats are asking for is simple:
- make it harder (not ban) for mentally ill people to buy guns
- make it harder (not ban) for people on terrorist watch or no-fly lists to buy
- make it harder (not ban) for people with a previous criminal history to buy
Whenever you say "ban", they will try to throw the 2nd amendment in your face and veer you off track by shouting "MAGA MAGA" etc. Even the above (which 85-90% of ALL polled Americans approve on - even Republicans) is cock-blocked by the NRA.
Confirmed America is a shitshow when it's comes to dealing with guns
Among other things.
Shut up
They are also a shit show when it comes to global warming.
The U.S is slowly turning into the old Wild West
Shayan Givehchian Dude you obviously don’t know anything about the “Wild West”. This is so much worse. You’re statement is why education is so important.
ChasdielOfTheEnd Jesus that is sad...
The "wild west" had stricter gun laws....
To enter most towns you'd have to turn your gun into the sheriff's office.
In the wild west everyone carried a gun, not just the criminals. Maybe we should consider it!
I don't remember ever even seeing a 'wild west' type movie where the teacher was also the gunslinger....
4:50 🤔 hmm at first i thought that's not really a bad idea but after watching this clip yeah maybe there's another solution.
yea...need to remember that they're just people too. Sure, I'm very positive there are ones that can absolutely be trusted but...I don't know about you, but looking back at my school days....I don't think I'd trust any of my teachers to keep a firearm in a classroom. And this was in a pretty decent school system. Hell, one thing the video doesn't mention is the fact that classrooms are not safes. Who's to say the firearm wouldn't just be stolen if poorly kept away? Again, these are just people. Teachers. It's not their area of expertise. Again, they're just people and I'm sure there are heroes but the majority? This will likely cause more problems than solutions.
My school in Tampa FL had two officers and they never even reached for a taser, prevention is a solution and the best one IMO.
Prevention MIGHT be a good action, obviously we can’t be certain. However, I’d like to think that letting teachers take things into their own hands is a terrible idea. It’s one thing to have officers on duty at schools, but it’s a far different thing to have teachers take on the role of the hero in this situation. Do we honestly expect teachers to carry a gun on campus everyday, all the time? What about teachers that refuse to carry/can’t carry? I don’t expect the teacher with a gun to just “trade off” their gun to a non-carrier when they have to go to the bathroom or leave school. We definitely need improvement, but I don’t think giving teachers guns is going to be the most effective solution that we come up with.
Sicarius that's not prevention lol, prevention is banning all guns, coz then there'd be no weapons. Your answer is more like protection.
Yeah at my old HS in Vegas we had a few armed cops and security personnel and nothing ever really went down besides a few fist fights every month
Land of the free...home of the paranoid
Imran Habib👏👏👏👏.
Right on the “money “
The loss of one child is too much.
Kid's die EVERYWHERE, not just from school shootings and a lot of it none of us can prevent. So I'm guessing you're always consumed with sorrow my sympathy's for your boundless empathy.
Carlos Pomares You are so right. This good people is so annoying. What a hell do they want? Peace? Love? Friendship? Respect? Accountability?
I don´t get this people.
What we need is dumbasses. And why? Because we can see dumbasses EVERYWHERE...But still, we need more...
Why you gotta do Omar like that.
teachers with guns? Seems like a good idea, till a teacher goes postal. Uses the gun to sexual assault a student, Or a student takes the teachers gun. I hear u.. I hear u.. but I'm not listening!!
kikeniko oh wow what a great strawman you can create
Honestly, Marco Rubio's willingness to talk about the issue in a hostile public forum has made him my new favorite Republican politician.
Alexander Dowdy Right. He had balls and it made me respect him more.
He also refused to say he wouldn't accept any more donations from the NRA at that event.
He's a slimeball, and he's been a slimeball for quite a while. Let's wait until he actually _votes_ in favor of these kids before we praise him for it. Being all talk and no action is the Republican MO, and we shouldn't give them a pass for it.
Alexander Dowdy
I’ll wait until he votes for the loss of ARs and then I’ll respect him.
Thats his fucking job. He's supposed to listen to his constituents.
"It's unrealistic because we would have to end up doing exactly what you're demanding nevermind." Regarding a random child casualty stopping a shooter, I'm torn on that. Maybe it wouldn't have been so bad if the guy had had more to say about it?
I don’t know how I would live with myself if I accidentally killed a kid. That being said, I also can understand how you may not be able to live with yourself if you were in a situation to stop a shooter and didn’t. I imagine this is the predicament cops face sometimes. Problem is teachers shouldn’t be placed in that position in the first place. They signed up to teachers, not cops or soldiers. Schools shouldn’t be war zones. Not when there are so many many other options that don’t involve putting more guns in schools.
People can debate about all the possible ways to stop a problem. Arming teachers, banning guns... for my part I'd like to see what these shooters do privately before they decide to take a gun somewhere public. I think they spend a lot of time in their heads, doing private things that foster private thoughts, and they aren't thinking about public health. And yet people demand the freedom to have their private space and do their private things. Well, I think their private activities can be pervaded by more messages and demonstrations of human socialization and caring about public health, so that these people with these off ideas feel even more off about it instead of being given a chance to normalize or necessitate it. But that requires a change in how information is presented on the internet, and ALL entertainment forms. But now that school shootings are just becoming a thing, you can bet there are already a lot of people out there already thinking they can make a point by doing the same thing.
2:03, wait. So you're saying McConnel has been eaten by a lion before?
McConnell has been 'lion' for years.
They usually spit him out due to him be all decrepit and such. You'll think they would be able to tell form the smell alone, but no.
"Wait wait wait make mine a CUB sandwich. Whatcha think? HAHAHAHA"
(yes, I've watched The Lion King too many times)
Yes, then he got digested and now he's a walking turd talking shit
Yeah, I guess that's why he is a piece of shit.
There's literally too many guns to make any major change. BUT you can make it VERY difficult to obtain an AR and have psychiatric check ups every year or six months.
Now THAT my friend is resonsible! Good to see someone with a clear head in the comments section.
Australia could do it. If some permanently drunk drop-bear wranglers can do it, so can you, you glorious prediabetic bastards!
ChasdielOfTheEnd Exactly, and keep them out of the hands of crazy poeple.
I think a check up every six months would be too costly. Who would pay for that? Remember, some gun owners own their rifles as a source of food. Defeats the purpose to put an added cost on them. But you're definitely thinking the right way. It's not about banning all guns, just being responsible with the ones that are able to be sold legally, none of that AR nonsense unless you're cleared some major hurdles (if at all). Need more of that in government, reasonable thinking.
Nick30468 then base it off population.
What we need to do to solve the problem is adress the cause.Not the tool.
"We might take one but save thirty or forty" Tell that to the parents of the one who got gunned down by a faculty member see how grateful they feel
Wait a second, give teachers guns? Pfft! Ha! You know in some schools, the students run the teachers! At any point the guns could fall into the wrong hands! Not a good idea. I keep seeing the Conservatives ignoring the easy solution, just cuz they are so stubborn about what they believe is right.
PS I am glad that Republican law makers like Rubio being somewhat open to change. We need policymakers to understand that they should think what is best for what the public want, not what they believe is right based on their political views.
ChainBlast Nah...it's not even about what they believe is right, because if they were the true Christians many of them claim to be, this would go against everything the Jesus stood for. It really is about the money-at least where politicians are concerned. Smh...
Students don't run shit but their fucking mouths off. Now that teachers have guns they can sit their Tide pod eating asses in check. School is for learning not being fucking stupid and trying to be the class clown. Learn something like politics, law, the Constitution. Instead of being edgy assholes trying to get likes on social media.
mario Q. Yeah you're right! These dumbass kids don't know what they're talking about. I for one enjoy seeing a gun pointed at my head!
Are you serious? If its harder for stupid people to get guns in the first place, then there would be no shooting at all. Arm teachers, create stricter security and then search the kids to see if they have a weapon, wow yeah we should turn school into more of a prison then it already is!
Let's say teachers do have a gun, do you think they can save the lives of 25-30 of their students before any of them gets shot? What if the teacher is shot? Then what?
And after seeing you teacher shoot someone down, would you feel like you can relate to the teacher? I don't know, I wouldn't look at my teachers or school the same way again.
My teachers have a nervous breakdown whenever we are a day behind, you don't think that it be worse when a shooter enters the school?
@ChainBlast
Rubio isn't open to a thing. He NEVER ANSWERED whether or not he would CONTINUE to accept NRA money. THAT FACT ALONE tells you that he's an NRA puppet.
Is that Hope Hicks's handwriting?
Can't pay teacher.. what should we do? Give them a raise? No no no, well give them guns!!
How will paying them stop mass shootings? Fucking idiot.
And by "give", we of course mean, "require them to purchase".
Can't give those greedy unionists any more pay!
They could hock the gun and buy supplies .
A lot of shit dosen't need to be this complicated...
Why dose a citizen need a military grade weapon?
Why aren't flags being raised about peoples gun purchasing habits? YES ITS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE TRACKED.
Giving teachers guns isn't the solution. Infact,Giving teachers guns could lead to much more uncomfortable sittuations. Teachers are already fighting for respect in the classroom. Giving guns could give escalate classroom issues as well. Its the lazy way out of this issue and its only going to creat more problems.
C00kii0 It is that complicated because people like you who don't know what they are talking about keep talking, if you would let the informed and logical thinking people do the talking it would be solved so stop being the problem.
aguy654....Again, your not helping the situation. You would see effective change if people like you would just not say ridiculous stuff. You can doubt my level of how informed I am or not all you want, but you and people like you are far from it. For example, citizens don't have military grade weapons. I am a veteran so I very much so understand the difference. Every time people like you say such ridiculous stuff you alienate the people that are trying to come to the table to find meaningful solutions. Your never going to ban semi autos or anything close to it across the country so stop talking about it because that actually just makes people want to go out and buy one. Start talking about pharma drugs and the effects they have on developing minds, or trained security guards in certain public institutions, or firearm training and safety, or passing a bill to help people get cheap and anonymous access to mental health care, and things of that nature and use facts not emotions. Your not going to convince people to give up their freedoms and rights to protect their loved one because of some people somewhere else in the country experienced a tragedy. People will always side with their loved one first and foremost.
aguy654...And you keep talking and keep alienating. See people like me are the people you want to come to the table and we do want to, but not when you call me a fool or a fake veteran or saying we have temper tantrums etc. See, that stuff does not help and again as I already stated it does not matter how informed or uninformed you think I am what matters is that I and many people like me currently have common ground ideas if the gun control people like you could change your tune a little bit and actually talk in a way that shows you understand firearms and the culture behind it. Its really that simple. What evidence do you need exactly? What is your solution to the problem?
aguy654....Sensitive snowflake? Sure I guess I am good with that. Ok, well lets just say that I am not the one on the side of the fence that is trying to make changes or rather restrictions to something that is already in place. Meaning, I don't need to change my tune even though many people like me already have because we are fine with it the way it is, do you understand that? And so I should take responsibility for Charlottesville?, lol, really? That is probably about the highest level of alienation you could bestow upon someone thus proving my point thus showing that once again you don't actually understand the situation and how to manage it. I don't care about Trump. I don't even see how Trump is relevant to what I am saying, I don't even agree with Trump on a lot of stuff. Trump can alienate people all he wants. What I am saying to you and people like you that if you want change then you need to accept what is in a logical sense not pretend it is something that it is not. What it is and will not change is banning of firearms so for your sake stop talking about it and especially stop talking about it with untrue facts and with a low level understanding of them.
aguy654.....Sorry still stuck on the whole taking responsibility for Charlottesville thing. I am actually laughing as that is such a ridiculous statement I don't even know what you mean now. Do you actually think that? Please explain......
To have him say it's like admitting defeat- was hitting the nail on the head. We cannot bring more guns into the schools!
1:47
NONONOnononono
The reason they were this effective was because the Kids WEREN'T being irrational bullies ib the debate.
Rocco Anders exactly, they were being intelligent and sternly direct millennials, and had the experience of the internet and the know how to add to the fuck off cynical attitude, haha 😂 kudos to them, they're going places 👍
I’m sure glad I’m not a student in this Trump era. These over worked, over stressed , underpaid teachers would bust a cap in my ass just for passing funny notes during class 🤦🏾♀️
Candie P I'm not a Trump supporter..but stfup. Seriously. This is an on going issue, recognize it or gtfo.
Nic Phan Does your opinion about me contribute to the topic? Nope.
GraceAlly Heyo perhaps you should contribute to the topic before you accuse others of not contributing?
GraceAlly Heyo hahaha! Hey keyboard thug👋🏾. I’m soooooo afraid of you and your keyboard ⌨️ , I have no idea what I will do 😱. I can’t even begin to tell you how frightened I am of TH-cam posters with Anime pictures 🤦🏾♀️😂😂😂
Her point is a serious one despite the tone. A lot of teachers are not that mentally well equipped to carry a gun, and that is if they are even willing to carry one bonus pay or not.
I'm so fucking glad I don't live in America.
Kolzi I'm so fucking glad you don't live here as well...we agree on something
Asmin Skenderovic I'm also very happy not living in euro lefty land alongside the likes of you. So it seems all is well. Have a wonderful day.
Asmin Skenderovic wow...wishing death on my children...classy, If you represent your country with those kind of comments I guess there's no hope for mankind
Hey G Deezy I am glad you care for my health, happiness and material well-being! Thank you! I hope you too can soon escape that shit hole country.
Kolzi I really don't care about your "Well being" to be honest. You said you're "so fucking glad you don't live in America" good...stay where you are...no one fucking cares
I had a teacher yell at me for looking at her while i asked a question. It was school related. I wouldn't want that lady to have a gun.
WOW!! SERIOUSLY?? A principle of a school actually said he didn't have a problem if he killed a student. That is wrong on so many levels!!!
The principal looks weird; would you want that guy carrying a gun in your child's school?
Grace Grit and Glory I do, yes.
Grace Grit and Glory, no. He's so casual about collateral damage, that's pretty darn scary.
FriendlyRambler yeah that's true...
Hell to the no. My kid would be out of that school YESTERDAY.
This is what frustrates me about America and the 2nd.
I see a rando with a gun in public (I'm in Texas), it ruins my day or worse. Therapy gets tougher.
I DON'T FUCKING KNOW YOU.
WHY SHOULD I TRUST YOU WITH MY LIFE?
NOW I'M WORRIED AND FREAKED OUT.
continue ad infinitum every fucking day. because the odds that whoever I'm looking at is going to stop a psychopath who isn't here yet are WAY LESS LIKELY than that *this stranger is about to pull that gun and kill me and everyone in the place.*
Grace Grit and Glory I don't give a rats behind what he looks like, I don't want anyone in a school carrying a gun! Gun control does not equal more guns!!!!!
You got to give rubio credit where its do though. He didnt have to go to that town hall. He didnt have to let those kids speak. I mean at least hes trying, which is more than I can say for most republicans. If something good comes from this I will have new found respect for him.
Yes. In the current political climate, we should be embracing acts of moderation in our public officials.
I agree. He was going in there knowing he was the "enemy" and it couldnt have felt good to be the one standing on the spot where all of the emotion in that hall was vented into. His politics are fucking stupid, but boi got a spine at least.
He's fired.
Lord Crimsiden Or was he sent their to soften the stance talen by Trump? 🤔
nah. I don't give people credit for doing their job. as an elected politician, that's your job. those who don't are even worse.
now...if he went above and beyond the call of duty here. If he personally went out to understand the situation truly, not this accidental stumble he did in the town hall (that look on his face when the crowd turned on his point lol)...then *that* I would give credit for and respect.
Trevor's obviously not a parent if he's "surprised that these heckling teenagers got Rubio to change his mind"!
my parents wouldn't have budged over the whining of their three kids when we were teenagers :) don't assume all parents are the sort to buckle easily. And given how Trevor speaks about his childhood in his stand ups, I doubt his mother would either. It was just a joke. Politicians aren't parents, they're elected officials. They're supposed to listen. Perhaps you were just making a joke too, but it was a bad example to compare rubio to the parent.
I think it wasn't so much about the kids....
"We might take one, but we might have saved 40 other kids". I'm sure that will be a comfort to the parents of the kid who was shot by the teacher and not the shooter.
This is exactly why people are confused and angry and sometimes loose their minds.
Rubio....Rubio....Rubio.... *Shakes head*
A little inaccurate on Omar...thats more like a Marlo thing to do...
Sometimes lil Timmy gotta get got....😂
"we might take one..." I'm going to stop you right there, THAT'S TOO MANY.
A gallon of gasoline and a match is much more dangerous than a gun.
Marco Rubio's statements are the equivalent of giving up. Like there are too many guns so let's just you know, NOT make any laws...and just let mass shootingd keep happening. You know thoughts will work! So no worries ( I hope you can hear my sarcasm)
Who will keep us safe if we dont have guns ?
And more importantly, who will keep us safe from the people who keep us safe?
Levon Gevorgyan You are right.
How could you say that; coming from a country that boasts of being the best at everything. If they were they would not have guns at home. Your goverment has brain washed you all into believing you need a gun. Who is invading your country to be in such a mental state of paranoia?
Err...we normal ppl don’t have guns in my country.we are doing fine and never have this kind of mass shooting. We do have psychos, of course. The scariest one in recent years was guy killed 4 ppl at subway in 2014. So I think I’m ok without a gun.
Who got The Wire reference?
Shout out to Omar! The game is the game.
Can you imagine the amount of children who would be shot as a result of giving them guns?
I would like to point out as a teacher. Asking teachers to carry guns and not expect stupidity to happen is the same as asking teachers to not sleep with students. I mean, how often do we hear about teachers sleeping with students? It seems almost never. (Sarcasm)
Thank you for always making me laugh, Trevor, even in horrible times
95% of the people want rubio to do something and he says he's doing his agenda. Isn't his agenda suppose to be what 95% of his constituents want him to do?
I don't see why this is such a bad idea. I had like 5 teachers in my elementary school that were retired Airforce and Marines. There's not one of them I wouldn't trust.
I bet the principal won't even feel sorry if his own kids are shot down by their teachers during school shooting.
"My son was just a shield to protect his 30 fellows students." Make sure you say that when THAT happened.
The reason that we have the 2nd Amendment is to protect ourselves against the government.
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Yes queen!!!!
I might be alone here, and I'm ok with that, but there are real dangers in mass-banning weapons like all semi-automatic rifles, and to be entirely honest, it feels like these gun bans are being focused on almost as a show of security, rather than actually facing the more difficult and complex issue: that kids want to hurt and kill not only themselves, but massive groups of their peers. Mental health isn't treated with the severity it has clearly demonstrated that it requires, as these events have become heartbreakingly commonplace, and many people find it nearly impossible to admit when they need help because of the stigma surrounding that issue.
As for the issue of arming teachers, no, not every teacher needs or would even want a weapon. Yes, the teachers would have to be tested, background checked, and monitored to ensure that they treated a firearm with respect, kept it safely out of the eyes and hands of any others, would never use it in any case other than a shooting, and God forbid if they ever have to, use it properly and effectively.
Lastly, yes, the principal's words at the end were cold and even jarring. And as I said earlier, I never want the first shot to be fired on school grounds. But even if it was illegal to own any firearm at all, someone could still go to a public school with a weapon. And in that situation, you are offered the trolley problem. Do you do nothing, and see tens more innocent lives forever lost or scarred, or do you intervene, possibly losing lives to your own hand, but preventing deaths that would have happened otherwise? It's terrible, I know, and again, no one should have to make that decision. And the training would minimize the chances some kind of accident happening, but in the end, it is saving children's lives.
I don't know why you think that it's a show of security. Restricting the distribution of firearms would reduce the occurrence of such incidents.
Of course that doesn't prevent stupid parents from improperly storing their firearm and letting their children using it on themselves or their friends.
It seems like a show of security because from what I've seen, people have only talked about banning AR's. If that comes to fruition, then the broken kids who are so mentally unhealthy as to commit a mass shooting today, would use a pistol instead of a rifle, and we still lose lives. If pistols are banned, the students are still broken, and they bring a knife to school. Taking away firearms doesn't solve school violence, and it may not even solve firearm violence. That's why I think it feels like a show of security.
Banning firearms reduces the rate of violent crimes with a firearm, sure. But it doesn't reduce the rate of violent crimes. No, I'm not worried that the government would instantly become tyrannical if I had to surrender the only reasonable self-defense tools available to a citizen. However, I would certainly be somewhat concerned about the slight possibility. More importantly, however, I would be extremely worried about my lacking ability to defend myself, especially in my own home. And as for moving to a new country, I was born an American, and for the most part, I'm proud to be an American. I don't want to leave this country for its issues; I want to try and make the country better with the best solutions I can provide.
Fair, yes, a firearm can cause far more casualties in most situations than other weapons. I would like to mention that the shooter in Vegas used a bump stock to simulate automatic fire on a semi-automatic weapon, and I personally fully support a ban on automatic weapons and similar attachments or tools that simulate automatic weapons.
I can't speak for anyone else, especially not those in power who you mentioned who focused the issue away from the weapons and shootings. I'd agree that many are corrupt and do not have the country or its peoples' interests at heart. But I'm not trying to defend them or speak on their behalf.
As for America specifically, no, we clearly are not the only nation dealing with mental illness. I do believe, however, that how we handle mental health and care creates a stigma that makes help harder to ask for, and that may create an environment which causes these tragedies to become more common. And from what I've seen, America may be the only country dealing gun violence on such a broad spectrum, but it is not the only country dealing with violence and violent crime by any means.
(A side note that I do recognize there are some modern, democratic countries who have successfully and drastically limited the public's access to firearms, and it may have lead to a decline in violence, or if not individual crimes, casualties. However, I do believe that Americans may be a different kind of people. While, yes, Prohibition was nearly a century ago now, the events that transpired when those laws passed may very well repeat themselves. If a ban on semi-automatic firearms or all firearms were to pass, there would likely still be a demand for those weapons, and a black market almost certainly would meet that demand. I understand that may sound a bit tin-foil-hatty, but it has certainly proven to be possible in the past.)
Yeah, it could happen. There is a real possibility but there's two factors that suggest that it could all work out well. One is that most of the developed world already has strict gun restrictions and it works for them as you've mentioned. Second is that guns and drugs/alcohol aren't the same kind of goods. You can't have a gun addiction in the way you can have alcohol or drug addiction. With the latter, it is used almost exclusively to drown out sorrows and there is the tolerance factor. If you can't buy a gun, you might rage on an intellectual and emotional level and crave it. But if you don't get that alcohol or drug, your body will DEMAND that you get it at all cost if you're addicted to it.
imagine seeing your teacher or principal in the hallway thinking you're safe and he shoots you thinking you're the gunman. unbelievable.
You can tell who came up with the idea to sell more guns...not body armor, bulletproof classroom doors, riot shields, or any other defensive equipment.
Don’t arm teachers just trust the FBI and the police department.
Jarhead6 yeah I'll trust them show up 10 to 15 minutes after the shooting begins
You can't be serious. How can you trust the cops after something like this he should've been in jail due to the many times they visited him then the FBI screwed up by allowing him to slip through the cracks after the threats he made. The teachers shouldn't have guns but the school does need more security.
Lobster Man221 how can they put someone, who hasn't committed a crime, in jail? You're so dumb. Almost as dumb as those who expect teachers to teach and and have swat training.
Jarhead6
Yes like the armed policemen who hid outside the school while kids were hunted and slaughtered.
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Wow I'm early
Miss LifescanX that's what he said 😂
Shooting a "mock gunman" is one thing but asking a teacher to gun down a child no mater what the circumstance is just bonkers. It's not going to happen.
I love the way the principal entered the doorway with his gun sticking out first with zero idea of where the “bad guys” were. Firstly, bullets go through walls. So he needlessly exposes himself. Second he comes into the room with his gun extended. Anybody looking toward the door would have shot him.
So glad these kids are doing this ... The stupidity needs to be exposed and eradicated. Yeah ... The students are the teachers ... 👊👊
Shoutout to Rubio for using his common sense! It must take BALLS to do a 180 in a conversation on TV.
I can just imagine if every single teacher in America had a gun and a student was misbehaving or acting out and he or she pulled out a gun and shot them. They would say those magic words “I feared for my life!” That teacher would walk away scott free while parents would be burying their children with no recourse and that last clip proves my point.
Omg! Do Americans know how ridiculous it looks to ppl outside America?!
What that principal said at the end is truly terrifying.
The principal training with guns accidentally shoots a poster of a kid...says he'll take that one loss if it saves 30 more?? Wtf is this world coming to?? It's like trying to put out a fire with gasoline... Who are these people?
"Sometimes little Timmy's gonna get got!"
OMG Trevor, you're a national treasure! LOL
"It's an accident. We might take one but we might've saved thirty-- forty kids." I'm sure he wouldn't feel the same about that if it were his child that was gunned down.
You know, there WERE a “good guy with a gun” around the building. The armed guard. He failed to do anything. And that is what most people would do. Worst case scenario is that they would be so jumpy that they’ll start to shoot at anybody as the killer is not waving a sign saying “I’m the bad guy”. This pretty much shots down the whole “good guy with a gun”-argument
I brought this topic up to some of my teachers and most them were terrified of the idea of them having guns on campus. The thought of them having guns in school is horrible because many things can happen things such as them misplacing it, them getting angry and lashing out, or even students getting ahold of them. I don’t understand how this will play out, will teachers be training on how to use it properly or just have a license to carry. People think it’s as simple as giving them a gun and teachers will be ready for a situation like this. In reality they won’t no matter how “prepared” they are or training they have. In situations like these most people don’t think of fighting back but fear for there lives. I don’t understand how people want to solve gun violence with more guns but there’s America for you.