what i like about project farms' video is that all he does is present you with information. i think he said it in one of his videos somewhere, but it is up to the viewer/buyer to determine whether or not that information is relevant to their use case
yeah actually, my response to this one was to buy cutterless fujiyas and big irwins then just switch off depending on task type. was actually a really helpful video.
I own them and like them. They are not the right tool for anything heavy but are great for positioning components, doing clips, fixing things around the home and helping to mend jewelry. If you are putting something back together but can't get your fingers in then these are what you need.
For what I do, I only need two pairs long nose pliers. Some good and reliable insulated or the plastic ones from Knipex and some regular cheap for anything else. I need the cheap ones to pull or hold wires or cables that are a bit hard to reach or in tight spots and I use the insulated or even better - the plastic ones from Knipex when I work with panels. I really don't see myself doing anything else with them, but that's just me.
You can tell by the look of the design that this is a delicate tool. It is very long and thin and very precisely made and comfortable, with a huge working surface. Of course that it will not be as strong as some bulkier designs..
I’m glad you explained how everyone calls long nose pliers, needle nose pliers. Knipex also has the long nose without the cutter which I prefer myself. Vampier/Engineer long nose pliers are stout.
I have 3 pairs of knipex long nose pliers one with a cutter, one with a 10 gauge wire stripper(favorite took to forever to find after I lost the other pair on the road), and a curved 90 degree all have the same slim nose witch I like can go for delicate work to hard work, I've even used to remove drains from sinks
I’ve been looking into getting the the Knipex angled long nose pliers myself, I like the feel of their long nose pliers much more than the bulkier ones you find at the big box store, I also like channellock’s long nose pliers.
They are nice. Bottom line is we have to know how far we can push them before they break. I bought some really nice 210mm okatsune hedge trimmers and tried cutting thick branches right away. Messed up the allignment for two years until I figured out how to adjust the bolts. I thought they were indestructible. They are not. Respect your tools and they will work great. If they're not sturdy enough buy a bigger set for the bigger jobs. That's all there is to it.
Have the knipex needle nose and have exchanged them 2 times because they twist. I use them and like them I don’t grab if I’m twisting anymore. I like all my knipex tools but my Menards has them. A warranty is only as good as it’s usability. I like my Doyle and Icon also. The HF knock offs also serve me well. Not had any of these long enough to tell long term 3 years as I made a new set for work and most of my other stuff is 25 year old craftsman. Which some still going strong and some was always junk but kinda worked. I can get 2 icon flush cuts and have the backup pair so I can abuse them which they have not failed yet but because I have 2 will use on stuff I would otherwise say do I want to ruin and not have till I can exchange. If you abuse your tools you have to be willing to buy more All that stated. The knipex long nose are not a robust pliers But needle nose and side cuts and picks are the only tools I have ever had to exchange. Ok a Milwaukee hole saw too Driver bits and magnetic nut drivers are the common failure tools. My best luck has been with the Bosch ones. Especially nut drivers. The magnets come out of the others
I can see very obvious distortion of my Knipex when I bent solid ground wire of light fixture, which is disappointing me. It should not be considered heavy job.
I own several pairs of "needle nose" pliers. I own the Knipex with the insulated grips and they are my favorite of the group. It should be obvious that the longer and thinner that pliers are, the poorer they will perform while putting torsional loads on them. Being long and thin, the Knipex aren't made for torsional loads. It's simply a case of using the right tool for the job, if you need to twist things, needle nose type pliers probably aren't the best choice.
Yes Project Farm is awesome, but some of his tests are irrelevant to the human experience and he often tests tools of different class. I find that his testing does provide very good information, but you really have to pay attention to the relevance of some of the experiments, especially for a weekend warrior. I need a nice set of tools that do the job and are pleasant to use, how many tons of force my tweezers can handle is not as important as precise they are. 😅 Exaggerating the tweezer example of course.
I totally agree with you on this. I think some of us guys can get hung up on stuff that really doesn't apply to us. Like, is 3,000 impacts per minute really that much better than 2,800 IPM? I know some guys who do that sort of thing. But in terms of testing, project farm is very unbiased. Especially as compared to the guys who do head-to-head drill/impact tests where they hold their favorite brand in their dominant hand. So unreliable.
Idk if I agree with your statement that they did pretty good in everything else other than torsion test. They were one of the worst ones on every test.
You're right about Todd. I think about all the hard-working, bright and funny men in this country and wonder why we choose their opposites for Congress. Why do we have a choice of only two senile old men for President? Can't we find one competent person in this country? What about Todd?
If blue would stop using manipulative narrative-lock strategies built upon the insistence that the average person is stupid then we could be adults again, sure. That's probably what happens after the baby boomer generation dies since the narrative lock primarily works on them. In their eyes politics hasn't changed since 1970 and they're still "fighting the power". They didn't even notice their own kids not having kids. I'm sure you could find a competent person but my parents would send him away and they still have all the money. If you're over 60 it's likely you'll never see another competent person take power in your lifetime.
knipex long nose pliers are only ok for fine delicate work. I did not know this so the first time I used them I was disappointed. They twist a lot under small force and I regretted buying them. If you have space to carry several pliers in your toolbox or if you have them to be used at home together several other pliers, then it is fine but if you are trying to select the minimum set of tools to put into your toolbag then it would be better to select something more robust and you will have covered many more possible scenarios of use. Probably knipex long nose pliers are very good in doing what they have been designed for. Knipex tools are are also very good in general but I just made a mistake buying this one because it is very very specific only good for some few scenarios.
Most people ain't cutting nails and twisting pliers like that, not with mine anyway. If your as hard on tools as project farm your using the wrong tool for the job.
It depends on how you define budget tools, Irwin’s are not high cost pro tools, they are good quality at an affordable price, which to me is budget. But really it’s all semantics when it comes to that.
Watched that episode, totally useless and destructive test - There was also another episode where a beautiful pair of Knipex sidecutters was used to try and shear a damn nail! Crazy. Tools are not designed for this.
I'm a fan of the project Farms Channel but I don't think his long nose plier testing was the best, long nose pliers are mints for reaching grabbing and manipulating objects in places with tight clearance and I don't feel that his tests really reflected how people commonly use them I think the most common use case is a lateral pull which he did not test at all, and half the video was about the cutters, I don't think I've ever cut anything other than electrical wiring with mine it felt like his video showcased which Plies were the best when you are using the wrong tool for the job
what i like about project farms' video is that all he does is present you with information. i think he said it in one of his videos somewhere, but it is up to the viewer/buyer to determine whether or not that information is relevant to their use case
yeah actually, my response to this one was to buy cutterless fujiyas and big irwins then just switch off depending on task type. was actually a really helpful video.
You are right. They aren't heavy duty or hard use but a specialty plier and are excellent for what they are designed for.
I own them and like them. They are not the right tool for anything heavy but are great for positioning components, doing clips, fixing things around the home and helping to mend jewelry. If you are putting something back together but can't get your fingers in then these are what you need.
For what I do, I only need two pairs long nose pliers. Some good and reliable insulated or the plastic ones from Knipex and some regular cheap for anything else. I need the cheap ones to pull or hold wires or cables that are a bit hard to reach or in tight spots and I use the insulated or even better - the plastic ones from Knipex when I work with panels. I really don't see myself doing anything else with them, but that's just me.
Been thinking about picking up a pair for those hard to reach wires in plc panels🥴
You can tell by the look of the design that this is a delicate tool. It is very long and thin and very precisely made and comfortable, with a huge working surface. Of course that it will not be as strong as some bulkier designs..
I’m glad you explained how everyone calls long nose pliers, needle nose pliers. Knipex also has the long nose without the cutter which I prefer myself. Vampier/Engineer long nose pliers are stout.
I did slip up at the beginning of the vid and called long nose pliers, needle nose..smh
Love my Engineer pliers. Very handy in certain spots.
I have 3 pairs of knipex long nose pliers one with a cutter, one with a 10 gauge wire stripper(favorite took to forever to find after I lost the other pair on the road), and a curved 90 degree all have the same slim nose witch I like can go for delicate work to hard work, I've even used to remove drains from sinks
I’ve been looking into getting the the Knipex angled long nose pliers myself, I like the feel of their long nose pliers much more than the bulkier ones you find at the big box store, I also like channellock’s long nose pliers.
@@ParklanCustom knipex and channel locks are my go to's klien is also very good to
They are nice. Bottom line is we have to know how far we can push them before they break.
I bought some really nice 210mm okatsune hedge trimmers and tried cutting thick branches right away. Messed up the allignment for two years until I figured out how to adjust the bolts.
I thought they were indestructible. They are not. Respect your tools and they will work great.
If they're not sturdy enough buy a bigger set for the bigger jobs.
That's all there is to it.
Have the knipex needle nose and have exchanged them 2 times because they twist. I use them and like them I don’t grab if I’m twisting anymore. I like all my knipex tools but my Menards has them. A warranty is only as good as it’s usability. I like my Doyle and Icon also. The HF knock offs also serve me well. Not had any of these long enough to tell long term 3 years as I made a new set for work and most of my other stuff is 25 year old craftsman. Which some still going strong and some was always junk but kinda worked.
I can get 2 icon flush cuts and have the backup pair so I can abuse them which they have not failed yet but because I have 2 will use on stuff I would otherwise say do I want to ruin and not have till I can exchange.
If you abuse your tools you have to be willing to buy more
All that stated. The knipex long nose are not a robust pliers But needle nose and side cuts and picks are the only tools I have ever had to exchange. Ok a Milwaukee hole saw too
Driver bits and magnetic nut drivers are the common failure tools. My best luck has been with the Bosch ones. Especially nut drivers. The magnets come out of the others
I've been using Knipex for over 40 years! They are the absolute best!
MAGA.
I can see very obvious distortion of my Knipex when I bent solid ground wire of light fixture, which is disappointing me. It should not be considered heavy job.
Project Farm is a highly credible source for tool testing. It may not be the absolute truth, but comes pretty close.
I own several pairs of "needle nose" pliers. I own the Knipex with the insulated grips and they are my favorite of the group. It should be obvious that the longer and thinner that pliers are, the poorer they will perform while putting torsional loads on them. Being long and thin, the Knipex aren't made for torsional loads. It's simply a case of using the right tool for the job, if you need to twist things, needle nose type pliers probably aren't the best choice.
Yes Project Farm is awesome, but some of his tests are irrelevant to the human experience and he often tests tools of different class. I find that his testing does provide very good information, but you really have to pay attention to the relevance of some of the experiments, especially for a weekend warrior. I need a nice set of tools that do the job and are pleasant to use, how many tons of force my tweezers can handle is not as important as precise they are. 😅 Exaggerating the tweezer example of course.
Well said!
I totally agree with you on this. I think some of us guys can get hung up on stuff that really doesn't apply to us. Like, is 3,000 impacts per minute really that much better than 2,800 IPM? I know some guys who do that sort of thing. But in terms of testing, project farm is very unbiased. Especially as compared to the guys who do head-to-head drill/impact tests where they hold their favorite brand in their dominant hand. So unreliable.
I use them everyday, and they work great.
Idk if I agree with your statement that they did pretty good in everything else other than torsion test. They were one of the worst ones on every test.
Everything is up for debate, I appreciate you sharing your thoughts, it’s always good to hear different view points!
You're right about Todd. I think about all the hard-working, bright and funny men in this country and wonder why we choose their opposites for Congress. Why do we have a choice of only two senile old men for President? Can't we find one competent person in this country? What about Todd?
If blue would stop using manipulative narrative-lock strategies built upon the insistence that the average person is stupid then we could be adults again, sure. That's probably what happens after the baby boomer generation dies since the narrative lock primarily works on them. In their eyes politics hasn't changed since 1970 and they're still "fighting the power". They didn't even notice their own kids not having kids. I'm sure you could find a competent person but my parents would send him away and they still have all the money. If you're over 60 it's likely you'll never see another competent person take power in your lifetime.
knipex long nose pliers are only ok for fine delicate work. I did not know this so the first time I used them I was disappointed. They twist a lot under small force and I regretted buying them. If you have space to carry several pliers in your toolbox or if you have them to be used at home together several other pliers, then it is fine but if you are trying to select the minimum set of tools to put into your toolbag then it would be better to select something more robust and you will have covered many more possible scenarios of use. Probably knipex long nose pliers are very good in doing what they have been designed for. Knipex tools are are also very good in general but I just made a mistake buying this one because it is very very specific only good for some few scenarios.
Most people ain't cutting nails and twisting pliers like that, not with mine anyway. If your as hard on tools as project farm your using the wrong tool for the job.
Irvins aren't budget tools. They're one of the more expensive ones.
It depends on how you define budget tools, Irwin’s are not high cost pro tools, they are good quality at an affordable price, which to me is budget. But really it’s all semantics when it comes to that.
Wrong
Watched that episode, totally useless and destructive test - There was also another episode where a beautiful pair of Knipex sidecutters was used to try and shear a damn nail! Crazy. Tools are not designed for this.
Love your channel!
Thank you so much!
I just bought a pair of these and they suck. They are stiff as hell and hard tonoprn right out of the box. That's a first for me with knipex.
I'm a fan of the project Farms Channel but I don't think his long nose plier testing was the best, long nose pliers are mints for reaching grabbing and manipulating objects in places with tight clearance and I don't feel that his tests really reflected how people commonly use them I think the most common use case is a lateral pull which he did not test at all, and half the video was about the cutters, I don't think I've ever cut anything other than electrical wiring with mine it felt like his video showcased which Plies were the best when you are using the wrong tool for the job
Yes, I love Knipex tools but Project Farm puts his tools to tests. You are all talk. Where are your tests?
My talk comes from experience. Field use is the best test for any tool.
Scientific testing doesn’t always reflect real world use. You’re not very smart.
Your opinion is just that. Project Farm does scientific testing. This video is awful.
Your opinion about the video is "just that".
Scientific testing doesn’t always reflect real world use. You’re not very smart.