How to deploy from the Advance LIGHTNESS 3 (or similar)? We investigate!

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  • A pilot reported more resistance than he expected when simulating reserve parachute (rescue) deployments in the Advance LIGHTNESS 3 harness. We ran tests and compatibility checks using different techniques and angles. Flybubble Carlo demonstrates the correct technique as explained in the manual: pull to the side.
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ความคิดเห็น • 18

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek
    @CuivTheLazyGeek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting! I was in a crash last year using that harness (I was stupid, didn't properly analyze the terrain at the end of an XC flight, and ended up landing in bad rotor. Glider suddenly dove forward close to the ground, I caught the surge, but that triggered me to become a pendulum into ground, all my fault), and although the impact wasn't that hard (my legs took some of the force out of it before they slipped forward), I broke my back. Witnesses thought the impact was minor and that I wasn't injured, until they realized I couldn't stand up (I'm fine now, thankfully, although I'll need surgery to remove the rods and screws they put in my spine).
    Looking back at the crash footage, it's clear the impact with the ground took place exactly where the rescue parachute is located - in the lower back, which I guess is common to all (or most) pods. So the force of the impact could be transferred directly to the vertebrae... That made me lose all faith in pod harnesses and their rescue placement in the lower back rather than under the legs for "normal" harnesses, regardless of how easy (or difficult!) they are to pull!
    Of course the root cause of the crash is me and I'm fully to blame... But if only I had been using my good old standard harness.... Sigh.

    • @bosquo310
      @bosquo310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a problem, I agree. I am about to buy my first pod and it seems like there is no podharness out there that ticks all the boxes... they either have the reserve on the back or they dont have a back protector. At least for the reasonably light and comfortable ones that seems to be the case. I stillthink I should go for the Lightness 3 because different to most others it still has s thick piece of comfort foam and the SAS-Tec-back protector in between the spine and the reserve, yes? Anyway, breaking my spine is the very thing Im afraid of the most and I really hope you recover nicely and wish you all the best!

    • @CuivTheLazyGeek
      @CuivTheLazyGeek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bosquo310 Thank you Bosquo! I think the Ozone BV1 does tick the right boxes: airbag with very good protection, rescue in the front. The upcoming Kortel Kuik 3 also looks amazing!

  • @glidewatch
    @glidewatch 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    BHPA teach "Pop and Pull" at Club Repacks to identify in which directions the pins / wires "Pop" open and which direction to "Pull" to get the reserve out. Often Pop and Pull can be done in one smooth pull (as shown here in the cone) and direction but on some harnesses they can be really different and continually pulling in the Pop direction just jams the reserve. This is always worth remembering that when you cannot get the reserve out change the angle of your pull, this can be by 90 degrees. Whether this should be the case on any or all harnesses is entirely another very valid question. But a good demo video.

    • @flybubblecarlo
      @flybubblecarlo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your great and positive contribution to the discussion glidewatch! :-) I've been teaching "Pop and Pull" for 26+ years now but somehow hadn't come up with such a nice catchy phrase for it... like it! Thanks for sharing! :~)

  • @MartinWolker
    @MartinWolker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    OK, it is in the manual, but it should be able to deploy in any angle.

    • @olivierpercebois-garve5506
      @olivierpercebois-garve5506 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@labrikorn_3299 Do you really want to reach to your reserve that has a handle on the right side with your left hand ? isn't this going to make you have a crazy body weight shift ? Not ideal in a emergency situation.

    • @olivierpercebois-garve5506
      @olivierpercebois-garve5506 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@labrikorn_3299 if I were really planning for that kind of situations I would have a second and maybe a third reserve, the kind that always opens no matter what. Personally I have my reserve on the belly because I think it is much easier to reach.

  • @gnls
    @gnls 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've found that if you leave the red strap that connects the handle with the inner container above the upper yellow pin, not below as illustrated in the manual, the extraction is much easier, requires less force to be applied and is less sensitive to the angle of extraction.
    Would there be any drawback in installing the handle in that way?

    • @MarieAttagniant
      @MarieAttagniant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with Guillermo. I got my lightness 3 today and set up the red strap above the upper yellow pin as illustrated in the manual and I don't have any issue to pull it out and I did it three times. I didn't need to do it with a big angle. The system looks alright

  • @soloventureadventure
    @soloventureadventure 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What reserve would you advise to go for? Doing multi day Vol Biv trips and hiking. Light weight would be best to save on weight.

    • @flybubblecarlo
      @flybubblecarlo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      As with all kit, there's not one good quick answer to that. We've published an article to help pilots Choose The Right Reserve Parachute flybubble.com/blog/choose-the-right-reserve-parachute If you want more specific advice than this we offer a reserve match service flybubble.com/reserve-match

  • @little_icarus4128
    @little_icarus4128 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this Video. But you forgot to show us how you pull it out with the left hand. Because that is more difficult to pull it in the right direction.

    • @little_icarus4128
      @little_icarus4128 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flybubbleparagliding Thank you for the link to the article.

  • @fredericcavrenne162
    @fredericcavrenne162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    design has to be reviewed , it is absolutely not normal to have a heavy angle and yellow wire with the impossible angle release the reserve by pulling off ????

  • @PuiuChiselita
    @PuiuChiselita 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    anyway, it seems to be a wrong concept behind, if there is at least one situation it doesn't come out.... bad design...

  • @davidgoralski6527
    @davidgoralski6527 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Although this harness is not aimed at the beginner market, surely this is not ideal

  • @7up-weee
    @7up-weee 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting video and discussion. We've had a lot of conversations about reserves over the winter here in Scotland and also with Flyeo in Doussard. Top two points were 1) to hang your harness regularly and practice throwing and 2) on every flight, put your hand on your reserve handle soon after takeoff (when it's safe) to build muscle memory of where it is.
    I've just returned from an SIV with Flyeo and something that might be of interest is that with some harnesses, it might be easy to accidentally pull out the reserve handle when practicing stalls. This happened to me with with the Delight 2 which will deploy with an upwards pull. See the first stall on this video if interested: th-cam.com/video/bVhp4aQngFc/w-d-xo.html. Following that I was conscious to keep my hands away from the sides of the harness. When I've perfected going straight to tail slide, I'll probably not get my hand so near the reserve handle.