McDonnell Douglas DC-10 Promo Film - 1970
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In an age where all passenger planes basically look the same, I really miss Tri-Jets like the DC-10, MD-11, L-1011 & 727.
Me too
Don't forget the De Havilland Trident. (UK)
Also some old airlines like TWA, Pan Am, Eastern or Northwest
My father flew the DC-10 with American Airlines. He loved flying it.
Arguably one of the most gorgeous aircraft to ever be manufactured...
My grandfather was an engineer that helped design the aircraft. His team was responsible for making sure the wings could withstand any stress that the craft could possibly see. He always told me about how the DC-10 was the safest aircraft that could have come out the aerospace industry. he only admitted that the DC-10 was over engineered. That in itself wasn't a problem but when combined with airline negligence the DC-10 suffered greatly.
Over engineered?? What do you mean?? MD knew of certain issues with the cargo doors but didn't do anything about it until people started dying. The DC-10 actually had a fear factor from the flying public at the time. Unfortunately it's growing pains cost a lot of people their lives but it did end up being a good aircraft once all the bugs and bad publicity were ironed out. Up until I flew in the 747-8i this year, the DC-10s I had flown in were exceptionally quiet.
Over engineered as in made more complicated than it needed to be. the cargo door could have been a simple plug type door but MD wanted to have more cargo space and made a door that opened outside which passed their tests but the procedure to close it was longer than it needed to be causing failures they didn't predict. they told airliners that baggage handlers needed to be taught how to close the door properly but the lower class carriers like the Turkish airways flight ignored the warning and had another problem forcing them to change the door design. Same goes for the pylon design. The pylons were designed to reduce vibration but they had to be removed in a specific procedure which maintenance crews ignored for the sake of speeding up engine maintenance causing the incident at O'Hare. Douglas got rid of the pylon in favor of a standard pylon. the ironing out was getting rid of the over engineered parts that were originally a good selling point to the aircraft. If the airliners followed Douglas's procedures there would have be very few incidents with the DC-10
It makes no sense to remove the engine with the pylon, as apposed to removing the engine from the mounts. It wouldn't even save time. ..and using a forklift to install it is pretty nuts.
CharDarwin Removing the engine with the pylon caused the engine to separate from the wing however it was a poorly designed hydraulic system that caused the left wing's slats to retract, ultimately causing the left wing to stall. That is why American 191 went down. At that time 3 airplane manufacturers wanted to introduce wide-body airplanes, Boeing 747, DC-10 and the L1011 Tristar. It is a fact that some of these manufacturers took shortcuts to introduce their products first, ultimately passengers paid the price RIP.
the left wing stalled because of American airline's engine failure procedure. I was easily able to recreate the incident and successfully land the DC-10 with failed left flap hydraulics and no left engine.
As a passenger, I miss these aircraft. I've flown dozens if not hundreds of times on DC-10 w/ Northwest. They're like flying on your couch... so smooth & all that headroom!! They fixed the engineering problems... I wish they'd bring 'em back...
Fabulous machine, flew them for years and one of the safest aircraft in the sky. Incredible shame about the cargo door latch design in its early introduction, but it went on to be one of the safest airliners in history. I’ve flown 767, 757, A330 and A321’s since my DC10 days, but the DC10 still remains the best aircraft I’ve ever flown. I miss flying her and sadly miss the guys I flew them with all those years ago who sadly many have now passed away, but to those of us that are lucky enough to have flown this incredible machine and still remember it, there will never be another aircraft quite like it. What’s even more ironic to the neigh sayers who call it a death trap, the 747 had a cargo door latch issue that tore the whole side of one aircraft right off over the Pacific one night. Boeing were just lucky they never lost a 747 due to that issue, but came bloody close on numerous occasions with that fault before it was finally rectified.
A retired TWA L-1011/747/767 captain told me that pilots LOVED the L-1011 and that it was a great flying and advanced airplane.
I have a cousin who attended this ceremony! He worked as an engineer for Boeing but loved aviation in general and couldn't wait to see the DC-10! It truly is a beautiful jet tag has proven itself over time...
I remember vividly the first time a UAL DC-10 came to Denver. It was parked at Stapleton over near the United hanger, and all the employees (and their families and friends) were invited to go onboard. It was an impressive aircraft at the time, and I flew on them many times on UA, Continental, and Western.
Yes, names like McDonnell Douglas and their DC-10... true aviation history!! Thanks for sharing.
Please come back Again McDonnell Douglas, is better than Airbus
Very impressive machine. The three engine configuration is one of the kind (different from the Tristar, Trident, or 727). The DC-10 is truly a beautiful machine. We can still see those flying for FedEx as MD-11. It's a workhorse of the FedEx fleet. Let's enjoy while they last, because at some point they'll disappear. Back in the '90s I took Concorde for granted, I thought it would fly forever. But as I can see now, nothing good is forever.
I'm afraid that the 747 is next.
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Well, they still make the 747, so it's likely to fly for few more years. I hear that Conconrde is scheduled to fly again by 2019. Some privateers are taking it in their hands.
I will be very sad the day Fed Ex retires the DC-10 from their fleet. It's one of my favorite planes. These vintage planes are becoming less and less populous in the sky - there is only 1 flight left that goes to my home airport (KEWR) where they fly the Boeing 727.
I would be very happy if the Concorde flies again in a couple years! I would love to see that!
NJ Sullyalex I think you mean the MD-11, as the DC10 retired 15 years ago.
+Jack Paylor FedEx still flies DC-10's.
The DC-10 wasnt unsafe, it was damaged by poor maintenance. The only real fault was the cargo door lock, as it made it impossible to be sure it was locked and ended up blowing out if it wasnt. Once that was redesigned, it was the safest plane in the sky. Very powerful too, with that third engine that plane could really get up to speed.
I flew on the DC-10 (as a passenger) several times during the 1980s and I loved it! One time I flew on it to my native country of Sweden from the US. My relatives who picked me up at the airport had apparently never seen a DC-10 before. They asked me "What kind of strange looking airplane was that you flew in on?" LOL!! The DC-10 was one of the safest planes in the skies and I would say one of the classics. RIP.
Just one problem can be a big problem
My dad and brother were on a DC-10 flight from New York to Dallas where the cargo door blew out!
Let’s add the DC9 to that list. I swear, when those planes took of, it was like. Rocket ship! The climb out was that steep!
The DC-10 was totally unsafe! The outward-opening cargo door, insufficient locking pins, faulty cargo door locking/latching mechanism, cabin floors with no decompression resistance, lack of redundant safety features, lack of hydraulic back-up. This plane was a flying coffin! McDonnell Douglas was well-aware of these negligent design features and did nothing to fix them until hundreds of people were killed. A company like that today would be driven into bankruptcy with lawsuits.
6:10, notice they don't say "safest"
The announcer's voice is classic.
Such a good memories, I still remember our training sessions in Long Beach with Chuck Hammed Douglas Instructor.
After the attorneys [ambulance chasers] get done, most people cannot separate cause and effect or design vs. operator error. The concept of contributory negligence has confused many. For example the disaster in Sioux City, IA where a burst fan disk ruptured hydraulics rendering the airplane virtually uncontrollable. It was said that all 3 hydraulic lines should not be routed in the same location. Never mind the fact that they were triple redundant and a simple fuse would solve the problem and that it could happen to any airplane with a center engine. Or my, second favorite was the American crash at Chicago where the mechanics used unapproved methods of engine removal with a forklift which caused the bolt to fail. That investigation even involved espionage and subterfuge and evidence tampering. But there were no design faults leading to that crash. But my very favorite was the Detroit MD-80 crash where the crew disabled the annoying warning horn for T-O configuration and forgot the flap setting part of the checklist repeatedly. Yes that was held to be 50% McDonnell Douglas's fault. Oh yeah and the crew took off on the wrong runway - had they used the longer runway even without flaps they could well have flown off uneventfully. I do believe the cargo door was the only issue of design fault due to MDC engineers, and even that was very preventable with SDRs and normal maintenance ICA procedures. Today no one believes the MD-80 tail design caused the crash of Alaska 261 off Pt. Mugu. It is well known that Alaska chose to violate FAA approved maintenance procedures to save $2,500 per year on inspections for each plane. IT WAS FAILURE TO GREASE THE JACKSCREW as required !!!
Haters gonna say it was a death trap but it wasn't. Nearly all crashes were due to human error and the plane was actually fine. In its time, it was the closest a plane with 0 hydrolics had come to landing. More people have died on the 747 than the DC-10.
My dad caught the Philippine Airlines DC-10-30 he caught it from Manila to Sydney back in 1984 such along time ago
I only flew on a DC-10 once from Boston Logan to O'Hare sometime in the early-mid 90's. Absolutely the quietest and most comfortable plane I've ever flown on - and my seat was left rear nearest the engines. It was probably soon after that this airliner was retired from domestic passenger service. A real shame about its history, though I know it would have been phased out anyway for fuel efficiency reasons. I love the tri-jets for some reason - that third engine gave a (mostly false) sense of security over twin jets I suppose. Also as a kid I was afraid of getting sucked into one of the wing engines back when they used air stairs for boarding. :-D
A lot of pilots from what I've read and heard each really liked the DC10 a lot! I think the aircraft is a wonderful aircraft, its a pitty it had a series of accidents in the 70's but the media did really hype up the accidents and gave it a terrible name. I still think the DC10 is a wonderful tough aircraft. Look at FedEx flight 705, an attempted takeover occured in 1994 but thanks to the flight crew they subdued the hijacker. The first officer put the DC10 into a series of acrobatic maneuvers and flew it at extremely dangerous speeds to disarm the hijacker.
Flew the 10 for about two years. Great airplane. Definitely one of my favorites.
Those accidents might be for poor communication system and pilots skills.
FedEx 705 really showed off how sturdy the DC-10s could be when they were properly cared for. Of course it wasn't perfect and did require a redesign (specifically for the cargo door), but it's not like these planes regularly dropped out of the sky like the media would lead one to believe. (besides, I'm pretty sure the Boing 747 had a similar cargo door problem with its 100-200 series so it's not an issue unique to the early DC-10s.)
My first jet flight was on an American Airlines Luxury Liner on August 19, 1975. I thought it was a terrific airship. Toronto to LA. In a few minutes after takeoff we were flying over the steel mill smokestacks of Hamilton, Ontario. It was a wonderful trip and a great time in my young life. Salad days of youth!
Yeah, this bird certainly had its share of "issues" throughout its history, but it, along with its MD 11 replacement, remains to this day one of the most beautiful planes ever made. Aside from the 747, nothing else comes close.....certainly none of the modern twin engine snoozathons, which are obviously very good aircraft and technically far superior but are as dull as dishwater from an aesthetic point of view.
I think the DC-9 still holds the top spot for me in aesthetics, but I agree wholeheartedly with you. Further efficiency and functionality seem to further exclude beauty to a certain degree. lol I guess the universe just works that way.
727 is my all time favorite looking plane, followed by the 707. DC10 looked somewhat makeshift with that engine in the tail. L1011 I thought had better aesthetics.
"Issues"? I'd say that faulty cargo doors that can bring down the plane and a lack of hydraulic backup are pretty big issues. Yes, the DC-10 is a beautiful aircraft, but would you want to fly on a plane built by a company that was notorious for cutting corners? Also, there are some beautiful planes out there today; just look at any 777 with GE90s and the A346.
cyberpolice9000 yes, but those issues were solved, and the DC-10 and its descendant, the MD-11, would fly for many years after.
have to mention the Lockheed L-1011, a good-looking bird in its own right, and also the safest of the three "jumbos" produced at the time. It did not suffer from defects like the DC-10 and 747 did during their first years. It's two worst crashes were from pilot error and a micro-burst.
Had design flaws and it still woops the A330's and 777's ass. Imagine a tri-engine 797 follow up to the DC-10 with fly by wire tech, composite build, glass cockpit, redesigned wing and fuselage portfolio. Hot damn I know what I would build if I had an aerospace company.
Aslan Sınav In what ways does it "whoop" the A330 and 777. Both are far better engineered. How many people were killed as a result of bad engineering on the DC10? Sure there is the argument that the DC10 was far older than the 777 and A330, but the 747 performed far better and that's why it was more commercially successful.
Whoop because it has no ETOPS limits.
Are we still talking about ETOPS limits, when the 777-200LR/A350-900ULR both have the longest range of any aircraft?
Then what? Still killed more people than the A330 and the 777, still got called "Death Cruiser".
Fuel consumption. 2 engines cheaper than 3. Good luck with your company...twat
Absolutely amazing that wide-body commercial aircraft such as this were taking to the skies barely a decade after the Boeing 707. Long distance air travel for the masses was now technologically feasible and airline deregulation made it possible. I first flew at age 26 to my brother's wedding in CA from Boston in '79 and IIRC it was on a DC-10 flown by American Airlines.
Shame I never got an opportunity to fly on the DC-10 nor the MD-11 before they left commercial service.
+Manning Taylor I flew very often on the MD11 with the biggest MD11 lover Varig in the late 1990's early 2000's I love it.
But I never lew on the DC10 instead i've been on MD80's and DC9-30 sometimes with AeroMexico.
I did a Omni air DC-10 and a Swissair MD-11 :) good times.
...The only Trijet I ever flew on was a MD11 back in 09 when I deployed to Afghanistan. World Airways did flights between Kuwait and ATL and it was by far my most memorable flying experience. Such an awesome and comfortable aircraft and we ate like hell, swore I gained 5lbs. I'd fly on one right now if given the opportunity. Only saw a 727 at the Air&Space museum.
I was a kid when I flew a Korean Air MD11 from Auckland to Sydney. All I remember is the braking after landing was really hard and the reverse thrust was loud.
At around 11 years old I started asking people why the pilots rev up the engines after landing. No one had the answer. So I found out eventually what reverse thrust was. Then I was baffled because I read the engines spin at incredible speeds how could it suddenly reverse direction?
After more digging in I discovered it just rerouted air.
Long story short, the MD is what got me fascinated with aviation.
I remember the time when I had a chance of flying on a Thai International DC-10 from Bangkok to New Delhi in 1985. It was such a great 5-hour, late evening flight I guess, in which I entertained myself listening to Phil Collins' Sussudio from a Sony walkman.
+Edi Utama You listened to Phil Collins's 'Sussudio' for 5 hours?
+Edi Utama I would do the same-listen to Phil Collins' Sussudio for hours on end.There's nothing wrong with Phil Collins' Sussudio.
Nothing wrong with it at all, but I don't think I could listen to any song repeatedly for 5 hours without going mad! :)
The DC10 what a beautiful plane I love it :)
Check the cargo is close
Wow, that's remarkable that the plane was able to taxi on its own power on the rollout day. Usually planes aren't ready to fly when they get rolled out.
Back in the 80's as a 8 or 9 year old, we were going to fly from LA to Chicago. But when seeing that it was a United DC-10 I remember getting very nervous and didn't want to go as it was just after a couple of them had crashed.. My parents just about had to drag me on board kicking n screaming!
I feel bad for you. You must've wished you were on a L-1011 or a 747 or 737 instead.
Considering the number of safe flights, and the era in which it was designed, it was a remarkable aircraft. The fate of the MD-11 seemed sealed after Swissair 111.
It seem like the 777 would be the replacement for the DC-10 I notice there close in size.
A close friend of the family was the chief designer at Douglas/MD for many decades (Harold Adams). I just got one of the last copies of his book he wrote. The Inside Story - The Rise & Fall of Douglas Aircraft. I can't wait to read it. I wish I was older when he was around so I could have absorbed all of his stories.
The DC-10 RULES!!!!!! ROCK ON!!!!!!!!!
My Dad was chief maintenence instructor for the DC-10 at Long Beach, and told me about a way cooler Roll out for United and American a the same time! He left shortly after that on an SAS DC-10 for Denmark for 7 months to train them.
the only safety problem the DC10 had was the cargo door the other accidents happened because of human errors and cutting corners from airlines, when the cargo door problem was fixed it became one of the safest aircrafts and a proof of that was the MD11 with the same design of the DC10
I am almost 55 years old and was going on 6 years old back in 1970. I still like the McDonnell-Douglass DC-10
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To my understanding the Death Cruiser 10 had multiple design flaws not just the cargo door.
+Alex Paradis jenny jenny who can I turn to.....8675309
They fixed it but not before lives were lost
Not really, no.
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Thousands? You speak out of your ass. After the cargo door was fixed it was a wonderful airplane. Chicago was Maintenance error but ended up being the kiss of death for the 10. Souix City was a freak occurrance.
Rode both DC-10, MD11, and L1011. Preferred L1011. More stable and quieter once you were off of climb power. Those RB211 engines made an impressive sound on T/O power. (still do as they are still out there on other A/C.
My dad flew 6 months out of the year for 30 years and loved the DC-10 since it was the second wide body jet (the 747's at that time were always full he said) so in the early years there was a lot more room in first class with wider seats. He said the DC-10 accidents never bothered him, he flew so much he said any airplane could have been a death trap in those years... Air Ethiopia, Air India , regional jets outside the US. He was in Israel on the tarmac when Desert Storm started and in Libya when the hostages were taken and last he remembers being at Heathrow when Pan Am 103 crashed. Couldn't scare that man after all the crap he few through.. lol
love this video. i got a letter from mcdonald douglas in the mid 1980's for holding the official worlds record for the most efficient utilization of the dc-10. i showed a 190 pound deficit for the max takeoff weight for a flight from ord to milan italy. i also found out i did the math for the worlds first computer weight and balance for the dc-10 and 727. i worked for federal express back then.
My father was in the tech staff for Alitalia stationed at Long beach Douglas plant for the delivery of the first alitalia dc-10 in 1972..
This plane also lead to the development of the kc-10 tanker currently being used by the Air Force
This video was make in 1970, 2 years before the Paris and Windsor cargo door incidents. They had plenty of time to notice the flaw, but I guess it took the deaths of 300 people to figure it out.
It's a beautifull airplane
The DC-10 had the worst safety record, but who cares anymore? It's a beautiful aircraft that we all miss! :D
CJets Planespotting WELL I AGREE W U 2 SOME POINT BUT L1O 11 IS THE QUEEN OF THE SKY!
Solomon Pilot The L-1011 is better indeed! :)
CJets Planespotting THANKS BUDDY WHEN U HAVE A CHANCE TYPE ETHIOPIAN COCKPIT VIEW AND LET ME KNOW HOW U LIKE IT BY THE WAY I WAS THE FIRST ONE 2 UPLOAD COCKPIT 4 ETHIOPIAN AIR LINES1
CJets Planespotting I've come to realize it was a wonderful, yet absolutely non forgiving aircraft. Pilots would say each airplane has its own "personality" and "temper". Imho, the DC-10 was that kind of an airplane that would express something like "You really better know what you're doing buddy...you really better know how to fly me and check me and handle me...if you do, I'll proof you I'm a superb machine and I'll call you "Captain"...if you don't...I'll call you "dead man" Regards!
Jason Railson Ok Captain! Lol :)
United introduced the DC-10, in 1971 in the modified DC-8 livery with a different font and a thin red stripe replacing the thin gold stripe of the original DC-8 Livery which had all capital letter block printing. Then that original livery was modified into what some call the Stars and Bars. The three color stripes, blue, red, and orange and the "new" United Shield were not introduced until 1976, some four+ years after the DC-10 entered service.
Fly DC Jets!!!
My first flight was on an AA DC-10 when I was a baby. It was flying the LAX-ORD route. I spent a lot of my childhood on AA DC-10s.
Me too. The whole broken home thing.
The first plane I ever flew in, in 1980. UK to LA. And you could smoke at the back!
Nothing bad with DC10-30. Served for lots airlines with no problems. DC10-10 was the one which developed all the issues
WavesandWind viajes by Fran Camino Yep,I feel like most of the peoeple commenting are forgetting that the 747(at the time)had more fatalities
little did they all know what was ahead..so sad
Airplanes nowadays are faster, bigger, much more efficient, but they lack the style and aura of these old birds
Sadly there are no more new trijets!
RIP DC-10
RIP MD-11
RIP L-1011
BS MM TT7 there are md-11 is still flying till 2024
I think that every new jetliner advertises its quietness. I was out at BFI for the landing of the first 787-9-19 and we had a UPS MD-11 land right before it. The 787 makes this formerly quiet airplane seem really loud by comparison.
Worst safety record? The only bad about the aircraft is not fixing the cargo door problem before the Turkish Airline crash. The number of flights versus the number of fatal crashes, the DC-10 is almost comparable to the Boeing 747 and the Airbus A310. The only reason the DC-10 (as well as the L-1011) sales was in decline because of the new breed of wide bodied twin jets with lower operating cost appeared in the early 80's taking the bulk of their potential buyers away.
The 747 has only a bad record because there where so many.Pilot error,bad waiting and some manufacturing fails.
People just like to complain to hear themselves talk especially after not bothering to do any kind of research. If they had, they would realize how many accidents were either pilot error or corner cutting maintenance by the airlines themselves. Not to forget inspection failure of a fan disk on United 232. The poor DC10 got an undeserved bad reputation because all people see are plane crashes and not the actual cause of them. I still say the DC10 was a beautiful plane like the 747. And I like the fact that the military and fire fighting services use the DC10 to this day. I got to see one take off from our airport in Fresno CA. And we don't see those here often. I hope to get to see one again soon.
StrongEnough78 Great points. And your input is spot on. Today FedEx still flys 39 DC10's(MD10), and 59 MD11's. McDonnell Douglas was a formidable company.
The flags at the beginning look like the logos at the time for Alitalia, National, UTA, SAS, TIA, United, American, Northwest Orient, KLM, Swissair, and two others that I can't recognize.
Ask any experienced DC-10 bus pilot, and they will tell you the DC-10s resembled trash trucks: VERY heavy on the flight controls and needing a lot of power to arrest the descent rates on approach due to the massive weights they carried. Now, the Air Force flies stripped-down versions of the same plane, which was a HUGE reduction in overall weight. I'm sure the KC-10s handled a lot better with only a crew of 5 instead of lugging almost 300 people and their stuff to a vacation spot.
1:56 holy crap! They are showing the orange jumpsuit dressed pilots like astronauts going to the moon.
After the media overblown scare, carriers purchased these aircraft with the safety mods and flew them for 20 years with little or no problems. And, cargo carriers bought them for deep discounts. (FedEx for one). Sweet airplane.
The engineers fucked up badly when they designed the DC 10 and as a result, a lot of people were killed in DC10 crashes.
That DC10 was cursed by engineers. They cursed it!
Actually the design of the aircraft itself (and not the engines) caused the initial problems with the cargo doors. The latter accidents were caused by the airlines who operated the birds
Marcos Urbina Turkish Airlines also played a part on that accident. A few days before the flight, THY engineers filed down the locking pins making them shorter. As a result, the baggage handler was able to close the door even though it was not fully locked because the pins stopped short of blocked pin holes. If the pins were at full length, the baggage handler could have noticed the resistance while locking the door (at that time, baggage handlers are already aware of the DC-10's problem)
The ramp attendant in CDG who loaded and closed the cargo door on the Turkish 10 spoke three languages but not English, the directions on how to secure the door was written in English. The engine separating from AA out of ORD, well you can seriously chalk that up to poor maintenance as there was quite a few directives from Douglas Corporation advising various airlines not to use a fork lift to perform engine changes. As we all know during the shift change, the engine was placed on the fork lift and no one was aware that one of the forks lost enough hydraulic pressure to bend the frame.
The 10 was and still is my favourite airplane, I have never heard of a Pilot / Flight Crew ever talking negatively about them.
DC10 FOR LIFE Did you notice how no one has brought up the United 747 that lost a cargo door over Hawaii? Of course not cause they didn't bother to do any kind of research. No common sense either. So sad for them but it gives the rest of us with brains like you and I a good laugh lol. On a side note I got to see a DC10 take off from our airport which is a rare thing in my city. It was a military plane. Got pics and a video. Looked gorgeous!!
President Reagan, then governor, spoke at both the DC.-10 intro in Long Beach as well as the L-1011 TriStar's intro in Burbank. He would certainly need his diplomatic skills to not show favor. How can you not love both the Jumbo 3's? And to think 40 years later we're supposed to enjoy flying in a narrow aisle 320 or 737 that have had rows of seats added beyond the aircraft Boeing or AirBus envisioned, (yet within weight limits). Is anything more enjoyable that flying Coast to coast in a packed 320 with a 28" seat pitch, no drinks, no food all extra charges?
It did not take long for those of us at Palmdale Plant 42 to refer to the DC-10 as the "Thunderbolt". You can use your imagination as to what we thought about the DC-10 (not much) and how much we appreciated and loved the Lockheed L-1011 "TriStar"...
How come theres not that many passenger DC-10s any more?
Is the 777 the replacement for the DC-10??? I notice there close in size.
One thing on the DC-10 they forgot to test was the rear cargo door.
There were several vibration issues on the 1011, mostly minor but an irritating slight aileron 'buzz' (switcing to 'active ailerons' fixed most of that), the cabin enviromental units were attached directly the bottom of the first class cabin floor beams so they'd vibrate if unbalanced and transfer that vibe to the high dollar tickets floor, great business thinking huh?
The corrosion issues were typical Lockheed trying to be 30 years ahead of metal technology and development
@MFfan310, one of those was the logo used at the time by Air New Zealand.
I think the military still use them there called KC-10's. Im wondering if the 777 was the replacement for the DC-10 I notice there very close in size. Im surprised the 777 don't have a tail engine as big as it is.
Yep- he was a pilot.
I never flew on one myself.
Do you know what caused the vibration and the excessive corrosion?
I assembled 747-400 center wing sections in Everett from 1997 to 1999 and have been a hard-core Boeing guy since I was a kid.
I've always liked the look of the DC-10.
A friend of that TWA L-1011 pilot flew DC-10s at Northwest Airlines.
Great airplane our national airline still flies DC-10-30 Biman Bangladesh Airlines
What's the DC stand for in DC-10? Isn't it Death Cruiser (Sioux City, Mount Erebus, Contributor to Concorde crash, Flight 191, Turkish Airlines Flight 981 etc. etc.)
Douglas Commercial.
sirscrotum The only fatal flaw the aircraft had was with its cargo door, all the other accidents the DC-10 was involved were due to maintenance error. Once all issues were correct the DC10 continued to fly world-wide with many airlines up until this year... so there is no need disrespect the aircraft.
the Mount Everest crash was pilot error Sioux city crash was because of poor maintenance 191 was again poor maintenance 981 was beaches a design fault but immediately fixed so you have no right to call it death cruiser you aviation hater the dc10 was a Beautiful plane and always will be ok it was the one of the only tri jets next to the md11 it was the only really different plane
+supreme rc Yea but it had some spectacularly catastrophic crashes in Aviation history, which is why I still call it the Death Cruiser.
"DC" stands for "Douglas Commercial." Search "birth of a jet" for the film that not only gives a look at the DC-8, the first jet to carry the famous moniker, but also a brief look at all the DC aircraft up to that time.
one of the worst disasters was human error preflight by traffic control - the Mt Erebus disaster had nothing to do with the plane
I love all the classic jetliners - DC-10, TriStar, 727, DC-8, DC-9. They look so much more cooler, original & epic than all the cheap tin cans flying nowadays like those shitty airbus and embraer planes.
+Doug Masters How are newer planes shitty?
They're cheap plus they all look the same. A350 and 787 - I can't tell those tin cans apart. This DC-10 dwarfes modern generic designs, literally and figuratively.
the older airbus(a300/310, 330/340) look cool too
what i hate about the modern jets is that they all have a down pointing nose
So they are shitty because they all look the same. Laymen's judgment at it's best LOL
If Walmart made airplanes, they'd make Airbus.
agreed, and the Military DC-10 is the KC-130 Tanker
the last dc-10 was made in 1988. most now flying are converted frieghters
One of my all time favorites. Flew on many a dc10's. Brings back memories.
Beautiful machine.
I sometimes wonder, if the DC-10 accidents did not give it' a bad name and Mcdonnell Douglas felt confortable about launching the DC-10-80 series, and airlines order them. Would the DC-10-80 series sold like the 77W and the 747 classics had sold like A380s do.'
The DC-10 was not a failure. Any machine that man makes that is not properly maintained or the proper procedures not followed will end in disaster. Most things that are built mostly machines that are introduced as new have pretty much a window for disaster in the first 6-10 years until they can fix all the errors. Unfortunately some disasters have human casualties. That is just life.
AWESOME, Thank you I'm glad I've seen this
If only they spent as much time designing the plane as they did setting up the delivery party.
the bagpipes were a nice touch
if they only knew how many people they were condemning to death...
best aircraft dc10！！！
beautiful！！
Actually, the tanker version is the KC-10 EXTENDER and are basically DC-1-30CF's.
A lot of people’s minds are in the wrong place in this comment section. It’s seems to be that here: a plane that looks aesthetically pleasing is better than a plane that is safe flying. Makes sense...
Yet it did the job well for quite a number of years.
Cracking documentary, thanx for sharing. But the L1011 was a far superior, advanced and cleaner looking bird (having flown on both)
L-1011 ftw!!!
The rear cargo door for the DC-10 was manufactured by subcontractor Convair.
Did you test the Cargo locking mechanism as well?
How did I get from watching RC aircraft videos to this.
:P
To think in a few years people will be looking at the 787 the way we look at the DC-10 today .
Thank You!
BTW. I forgot to thank you. Great aviation documentary. Thanks, Bangkok-Johnny, again
Those were the days when flight test programmes are ahead of schedule...
McDonnell Douglas DC-10 :
Wow, that guy narrating is the same dude that did the ABC movie of the week...what memories!
It just looks so well balanced aircraft