Ed Begley Jr. Smoked Pot With Charles Manson and Tex Watson
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- Ed Begley Jr. seems to have done it all, including smoking pot with Charles Manson, Tex Watson, and the rest of the Manson family. Hear all about this insane experience.
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Sandy Rogers and me met Charlie at the Spahn ranch. 13 yo hiking in hills with our 22's. Came across them, they invited us in, we saw a small man sitting with women and no tops on milling around him. Something just scared us. Said we had to go. Sandy's dad is waiting for us. We never mentioned that Sandy's Dad was Roy Rogers
It’s a good thing you didn’t mention that to them bc they would’ve for sure bothered the family for money. My mom lived near there & had multiple run ins with the girls. She never met Manson though. Manson & Watson made their living by strong arming people and using the girls to seduce men or just flat out sleep with them. My mom ended up moving to the Bay Area and became friends with most of the Grateful Dead and several people in their sphere had run ins with them as well (in SF & down in LA). It’s never talked about or reported on but those people weren’t idiots & it was definitely no accident that they knew so many people in the movie & music businesses. One thing I do know for sure from my mom is that Tex Watson wasn’t some lost soul that was under Manson’s control which blows a hole in the prosecution’s argument that Manson masterminded it all & made Watson do it. They probably planned it together or its very possible Watson did it on his own. They knew Melcher wasn’t living there & where he was living so it wasn’t some kind of message they were sending to him when they murdered those people. There is more to that story than has been released to the public.
@@LudiCrust.Ya they were doing deals with everyone in Hollywood girls drugs robbing drug dealers I still think it was a drug burn gone wrong and not hippy cult
Wasn't Watson a drifter/runaway that just happened upon Manson like the rest? I've always thought how can someone be talked into just going up and stabbing people like they did, that evil has to be in them to begin with. And the girls smiling about what they did afterward, the one they just released should still be locked up.
@@mrlafayette1964 Read Helter Skelter. At times, you'll put it down because of the horrors, and then you go back to see how these horrors were stopped. Helter will also explain Watson
@@donl5158you should read CHAOS by Tom O’Neil, even scarier stuff in there.
Wow, I never knew Ed Begley, Jr. had such amazing stories to tell.
You should track down the show "Dinner for Five" (the show Jon Favreau hosted in pre-Marvel days). Begley was on an episode along with Carrie Fisher (also a child of Hollywood).
The show in general was great, but Fisher and Begley's episode in particular had some great stories, especially about John Belushi.
He does. I've seen give several interviews for various things. A good one that comes to mind: One time Marlon Brando called Ed out of the blue and asked him to come over, that he had something very urgent to discuss with him. So Ed rushed over thinking he had a part for him in one of Brando's movies. But when he got there, there was no movie. Brando asked him how many volts an electric eel could produce. Ed baffled, said he didn't know. Brando tells him about a guy he knows who can produce for him hundreds if not thousands of electric eels to keep in his pool. Which Ed assumed was some kind of home defense innitiative on Brando's part. But no, Brando informs him of his plan to keep thousands of electric eels at his home in order to power the home naturally. And that's it, that's the story. Ed, of course, tells it better than I can type it. Now that I think of it, there may've been more to the story but the film was edited there and cut to another talking head interview.
He killed me with the final line "It's not me is it? I'm not causing these things to happen, am I?" LMAO great editing
I met Ed Begley Junior in Niagara Falls back in the day always been unusual character. Great story 12° of Ed Begley Junior.😊
Charles Manson, Oj Simpson, Tex Watson, this dude just kept befriending killas
Let’s not forget Robert Blake.
Doesn’t that tell you something about being a star in Hollywood?
@@mrmagoozle that when you live and work in Hollywood for 50 years you are gonna meet everyone? DUH!
@@angelcitystudio stay asleep 😴
@@mrmagoozle 🤣 Still crossing your fingers and waiting on that 5D awakening Qtard? I am sure it will happen right after Trump is reinstated and he reveals who the true illuminati is... But first he needs to give them more tax cuts....👍
What an amazing experience... thank you for sharing
The Manson girls were 'taking care' of the old guy. He wasn't necessarily being held hostage.
right, the rent was any of the girls or all of them
Yep, Squeaky was ol’ blind George’s favorite.
Squeaky was the main one " taking care" of him. He was free to leave anytime he wanted, but he liked the girls too much to leave.
That's actually how squeaky got her nickname, she would make a weird squeaking noise when George Spahn would touch her inner thighs.
@@dathorndike4908He shouldn't have had to leave permanently. It was his ranch.
The Manson Family & the Tate entourage went to many of the same parties in the hills & canyons. The Beach Boys & the Mamas & the Papas were also part of that scene. And it was Rudy Altobelli who owned the house. Terry Melcher & Candice Bergen rented it out before Sharon & Roman moved in -- Manson had been to the house several times while Melcher lived there & Manson had also partied at the house next door to the Labiancas when Harold True lived there
Smoking pot with Charles Manson is much more impressive than smoking pot with Johnny Hopkins.
I know Johnny Hopkins and Slone Cateran
I used to buy drugs from a stripper named “Starr”. Last time I bought from her I left for a music festival. Came back days later and homicide detectives tried to interview me because they found her headless body across the border in Virginia. I told them “that’s terrible. I have no clue what happened.” They asked me to come to the station and talk and I told them to speak with my lawyer and they left. Thats about the craziest drug interaction I’ve had.
I have a drug/murder story. It didn't happen to me, but to a couple of guys that I knew.
So...I went to a private college in the Bay Area and for the first two years I lived in a dorm that housed mostly jocks. Downstairs from my room there were these two roommates who were pretty notorious partiers and drug users. One of the guys, let's call him Sammy, was a weird guy. He was hyper, long hair like a typical '70s rocker, and was older, maybe 25...he'd been attending the college for some time and never seemed to be able to graduate...one of those perpetual students who goof off but must have rich parents that enable their flakiness. But I digress. Anyway....
One day Sammy needed to score some coke. So him and his other stoner roommate drove over to the house where their connection lived. They parked on the street and walked up the driveway to the front door, which to their surprise was open. When they looked in the front door lying there on the floor right in front of them was their connection, stone-still, bloody and very, very dead. They apparently just missed his execution.
They split and never called the cops.
Was this in East Tennessee?
Hey Howie and girl how about shutting up and let Ed tell his story.
Exactly!
I remember this story from back in the day. Always liked Ed
What a wild blunt rotation.
Wait a minute; both these guys were on St. Elsewhere? That's so cool.
Back when Howie had hair. Lot's of it.
@@mike4619 I remember: big curls, god I miss the 80's.
Ed had beautiful hair in Parenthood movie.❤😍@@ricktheexplorer
I have irises which I took from the site where Manson was apprehended. Back in the 1990s I took a couple six inch sections of rhizome and now have a few dozen separate plants. I also met a couple people who hung out with Manson, etc.
Any stories?
He’s the other Kevin Bacon … Six degrees of Ed B.
Disgusting
Why is that disgusting? I’m confused on this. Please elaborate if possible.
@@jodythomas4324 I can't
@@lennarthagen8730You obviously don’t u derstand the reference.
no shit
i was thinking the same thing
DOPE SMOKING MORONS
I read A LOT. I could only read Helter Skelter ONCE and told myself I never wanted to open that book again. This was back in the 70’s and back then we WERE NOT so desensitized like young people are today. I NEVER have opened that book since. I’ve read other captivating books twice ….like revisiting an old friend or wanting to experience the essence again. BUT NEVER THAT BOOK.
I lived in Northridge Granada Hills.. We rode our mountain bikes up there..
We saw a guy in a Jeep wearing a cowboy hat... ...Tex ...? Found a book in prison..CO. signed by Tex Watson...
Interesting!
St. Elsewhere is the greatest show in television history. the plots, the acting, the realism, and the intrigue were top shelf. but the caring and compassion trumped everything. 137 hours of high quality art. in the final analysis, it is greater than star wars, the godfather, or star trek. the last season was a little shaky, after Dr. Westphal left St. Eligius, but it was still better than Hill Street, 30something, or L.A. Law. too bad Ehrlich and Fiscus' friendship soured. They were comedy gold in season 1,2 , and 3.
Ehh, it’s good, I’d place it in my top 20 forsure all time, maybe top 15, but number 1 overall? No way, that belongs to The Sopranos my friend. The writing alone for that show is unparalleled in TV history. And then add the acting and everything else on top? It’s a no brained for me, personally.
Northern exposure, also. Both were breakthroughs for the time.
Wasn’t better than Hill Street Blues… Sorry.. But yes, too notch show..
I’ll say it again, Hill Street Blues is the greatest television drama of them all..
What a story. The caretaker Ed was referring to was probably George Spahn himself.
Yes and was old and blind .Manson girls service him in many ways
George Spahn was the owner, not just a caretaker.
Shorty was the caretaker...
Everyone has a Charlie story it just seems odd all these guys didn’t say anything for 50 years Ryan Cranston.mike love. Danny Trejo who am I missing that just has just recently came up with a Charlie story
Dennis Wilson
some interesting trivia: his Dad, Ed Begley Sr. was in 'Wild in the streets', the film where the President is a rock star, who thinks anyone over 30 (w/ rare exception) are thru, and taken to camps where they're force fed LSD. a great line by Ed Sr. is "you'll have to either stop the clocks or go mad!" Richard Pryor is the Chief exec's drummer. Kevin Coughlin plays Billy, who, when asked how long he wants to live, says, "I dunno, man, 30?" unfortunately, Coughlin was killed at 30, while wiping his windsheild by the side of the highway, and a speeding car came by. rest his soul, he did some good guest shots on 'GUNSMOKE', also.he was one of those actors who could easily play 'young' due to his youthful appearance. he played a teenager on 'Gunsmoke', when he was approaching 30.
Rod Serling wrote "Patterns" and Ed Sr. was wonderful in his role. I want to see more, so thanks for the film tip.
Funny how it seems that every actor in Hollywood has a personal story about Manson now that he is dead.
Howie aint that bright
Must have been born in November
Weed will do that.
Ed Begley Sr was a great actor. 1:44. You interview ACTORS and you are unaware of a movie like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? Lmao.
Begley Sr in Twelve Angry Men with Henry Fonda. A classic.
Wait a minute....wasn't that guy a drummer for Spinal Tap?
Yes, during the band's Mod period....
@69zenos: not Ed Begley, Michael Mckean from Lavern & Shirley TV show.
@@chrisd9759 In the movie, they show a clip of the band in their early days, and you can see Ed Begley playing drums. They kept going through drummers.
I’m staying the hell far away from Ed Begley Jr.. I’m thinking there’s more going on with him than he’s letting on about.
Didnt Lt Frank Columbo of the LAPD bust him for killing some people ? Pretty sure he did , wonder if he will talk about that
Almost every celebrity come out and say they ran into Manson, don’t know if it’s true
i was in 9th grade when all that shit went down..we lived in simi ...we used to rent horses at the spahn for a buck a hour....by summer of 69 charley had vamoosed to nevada and tex was never around...trust me Tarentinos version of the ranch is much cleaner than it was and as far as the girls ..lets say hygiene wasn't high on their to do list
What was that place like?
"So if I want to order room service just say maintenance closet" ❤
Wow, Mansion auditioned for the Monkees (maybe) knew the beach boys and met the original drummer of Spinal Tap
he just seems kind of guy be laid back and fun to chill with... and that would know alot of interesting people
Dude was from Copeville, Texas.
My, My,…..doesn’t quiet Ed Begley have stories to tell. Must be a good book to go back 50 plus years.
This makes his part in Piapel Expres more hilarious
Thats so crazy. What a time to be alive in Hollywood.
I once smoked pot with a guy who didn’t know Charles Manson but who’s uncle was the guitar player for a bloke who had been to California- the same state that Helter Skelter was written. I am gay.
Haaaahaaaa like the guy who met andy griffith.i think he liked pencils,or string?
I too, once got to 2nd base with a girl whose older brother knew a guy that was gay, and was supposed to go to California on a class trip but ended up getting caught smoking weed at school and couldn't go on the class trip, what are the odds?
@@mcsuckalives2302 I once visited Weed, California and drove past a school with a baseball field that had a 2nd base. That's practically the same thing.
And Begley is proud of that? Amazing.
Why not, I would've liked the chance!
This would have been really cool, if the host would up their game and do some research.
That is a crazy story. Ed Begley Jr. is lucky Charles Manson did not get pissed at him for not trying to help him with his music career.
Charles Manson sent people to kill at the house where music producer Terry Melcher, Doris Day's son, and Dinnis Wilson, of the Beach Boys, had lived. Manson and his "family" lived at another house with Dennis Wilson for a while. Manson was angry because they did not give him a recording contract after hearing his music. Manson was angry at the "establishment" for not recognizing his musical talent. So, Manson got his "family" to kill for him. Manson never wanted to be there when the murders happened. Manson did go in and tie up Leno LaBianca and his wife, Rosemary. Manon told several of his followers to go in and kill them after he drove away. This house was next door to a house where Manson and his followers had gone to a party the year before. I had heard that the LaBiancas may have called the police to complain about the noise at the party, but I am not sure if that is true. It did not take much to set off Manson.
The other person living at the house with Melcher was Mark Lindsay, who was the (former) lead singer for Paul Revere and the Raiders. That is the reason Tarantino cleverly included Raiders music in the soundtrack for Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.
@@stevemccooleq Melcher was also living in the house with his then girlfriend...Candice Bergen.
The story as Vincent Bugliosi tells it is, Manson met Dennis Wilson through a couple of his girls that Wilson picked up while the girls were hitchhiking. Wilson introduced Manson to Melcher...who was a producer/A&R guy...at the house where the murders took place. Melcher told Manson he would pass his songs on up the ladder to see what the higher ups thought. The higher ups didn't like what they heard. Now apparently both Wilson and Melcher did like something or they wouldn't have gone that far with Manson's music. After several months of not hearing back from Melcher or Wilson he goes to Melcher's house looking for him, Melcher had moved out by then and Polanski and his people were living there. Manson just walks right up to the back door and ask to see Melcher. One of Polanski's people, don't remember the guys name, comes to the door and ends up running Manson off. Manson thinks Melcher is still living there, is too afraid to confront Manson himself, so he's sent one of his flunkies out to run him off. That was when Manson decided to kill everyone there. Manson thought he was sending his "family" members to kill Melcher, not knowing Melcher didn't live there anymore.
@@panderson9561He had known that Melcher had moved. He found him renting a place in Malibu, I think. Was surprised when Manson found his new place. Pure evil.
The Forest Gump of Hollywood
He will always be Cliff Main to me.
No kidding, huh? Well that def. explains a LOT.
Manson murders happened right up the street... I was just 11 at the time..but the lights and urgency I won't forget...!
Ed sure is a talker 🥵
The original ranch burnt down apparently. Tarantino built a replica for the movie.
Leveled it and replaced.
Yeah in the wildfires that swept cross that area in the fall of 1970.
He also smoked with my sister in Laurel Canyon. ❤ Ed i mean, not charles. Lol😂
Begley needs to be interviewed by someone who can do him justice
Mister ED the horse would be better for sure
That’s wild stuff
great company ed keeps
Best episode of Tales From The Crypt was the one with Ed and Tim Curry.
My buddy's older brother smoked with charlie and a few girls and jammed on guitars for a few hours while on some other drugs. I have an 8 track recording of it and remember thinking charlie was pretty bad at music lol the guy i knew who partied with them ended up overdosing at a dead show and wound up in an asylum around 1996.
Charlie could sing about as well as Yoko Ono.
@@stevemccooleq he was epic bad. I've heard better voices on throat cancer victims.
Ed should have warned them.
Lucky it is an interesting story, because 45 seconds of Ed Begley talking is like 20 minutes for everyone else.
Stumpy Pepys?
I didnt know he was later an actor.
Better call Sauls cocobolo desk too being dr link letter and now this truly remarkable person
This is why the US needs a remake of Would I Lie To You?
Its incredible that Tom O'Neil couldn't reach Ed
I went to school with the only Manson member who was released from prison. Steve Grogan.
I bet he was a hoot at the reunion.
No, that was the former quarterback for the New England Patriots back in the '80's!
@@davidgibbs381 Yes, the New England Patriots had a QB named Steve Grogan. However, there also was a Steve Grogan in Manson's family, but he went by "Clem."
@@kevinhouse4376- Yeah, I was trying to add some levity to the thread. I was familiar with the Manson cult having monitoring it from the inception when I was 15 years old. Read & studied everything I could find & followed the trial back in '70-'71.
Former Manson girl Leslie Van Houten was paroled and released from a CA state prison in 2023. I believe she was 73 yrs old when released.
😆 It was creepy it was very creepy I thought it was the 🌿🌿🌿😆
The Cielo dr house is in Benedict canyon
A lot of laurel canyon hanger’s on did, along with groupies and musicians, famous or not.
Better Call Saul alternate reality
Who's the ditz with Howie?
Your mom.
Ed met John Lennon a few times and is good friends with Ringo Starr as well
Never heard anyone who knew Tex Watson before the murders say a bad word about him??!!!
Boy that girl doesn't know anything. The old man that lived at the ranch was named George spahn hence the name spahn ranch duh. If they saw the
Movie then they should that. By the way the spahn ranch burned down in the 70s
Tarrantino recreated it for the movie im surprised they didn't know that
Who pushes there coach
FYI a great album was made in that house that’s what I’d be impressed with The Downward Spiral NiN
my friend owned the house right in front of Cielo
There’s many.
@@362chop- it’s true - there were a bunch back that drive.
Someone needs to send this clip to H. Allegra Lansing.....
Wow....I got my comment deleted on this channel with no explanation which pointed out some fallacies in the whole Charles Manson saga that has been promulgated over the years. There are very well researched books on this and one in particular that I referenced that came out recently. As a fellow Canadian that surprises me. Oh well. I guess in this day and age nothing should surprise me about the media.
the recent book about it is much much more important than that terrible film
What terrible film? Tarantino’s? There is nothing “terrible” about that film. It’s a reimagining. Not supposed to be a documentary.
dork took time to type
@@cactaceous
Bulldozed that beautiful ranch and replaced it with the gaudiest structure imaginable. Begley is one fried dude.
I read Charlie was looking for Doris Day's son (Terry) who was a record producer who rented that house and refused to record Charlie's music. So Manson went back to that house to seek revenge on Terry but Terry no longer lived there. Manson and his gang killed the new occupants of that house that included pregnant Sharon Tate.
Yup, he was looking for Terry Melcher, record producer for The Byrds and The Beach Boys. He lived at the Cielo Drive house before Polanski and Tate moved in.
Melcher also produced a couple of albums for Paul Revere & the Raiders and ex Raider lead singer Mark Lindsay lived at the house with Melcher for awhile. As a clever & subtle acknowledgement of this, Tarantino used some Raider music in the soundtrack to OUATIH.
@cactu...: there's an earlier commenter here who says Manson knew Melcher no longer lived in that house, it wasn't a mistake that they murdered the new occupants of that house. They also murdered the neighbors near that house.
@@chrisd9759 Yes, law enforcement's position was that Melcher was never an intended victim. They believed Manson thought he could start a race war that he called Helter Skelter. He thought that by murdering rich white people in their luxury homes the police & the public would blame blacks for the murders and trigger the race war.
@@chrisd9759 The LaBiancas were chosen randomly. Watson and Atkins mentioned that Manson “might have known Melcher didn’t live in that house anymore” but they didn’t definitively know. Manson himself never said. He chose that house out of thousand for a reason. Whether he thought Melcher lived there or he thought killing a famous rich person would do. We will never know.
Ed was on this new show were he lived in a barn on Sheppards farm. Funny as hell. Think covid killed it. Ed was great on it
Why would you admit even being in the same room as Manson and Tex?
Might be a heavy burden to carry only inside.
@@MrSnappy67 I suppose you have a point, but I just don't understand why you'd hang with people like that in the first place.
Birds of a feather….
WOW IS ED BEG. IS THAT SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF?
spahn ranch is long gone
Yep, burnt down in 1970.
@@NJcruiserAnd bulldozed
I checked it out on Google Maps and you can still see traces of the ranch, included an old car that was driven way out into the property. Some people say it was from Charlie's family.
@@howdesign Yeah this and that but pretty much everything gone except a few carvings and a cave. The car? Who knows.
And I thought *I* had quirky stories!
Ed is a Merrick boy!
Oh yeah St. Elsewhere with these two...
Rudy Altobelli was the owner at the time of the murders
Wtf… like being in an alternate reality / bad trip …
I hate when old people say “you’re too young to ______” I wasn’t alive when a lot of things happened throughout history, but ya can have knowledge about things lol
No offense, but you're too young to understand the depth of the phrase "you're to young to ______"
@@77-ty7gbIt's not always good to discredit people you don't know. You don't know what people know.
Some things you get to say as an old duck.
How about young people saying “nowadays”.
That's a pet peeve of mine too. I like classic movies, like a lot of stuff from the 30s and 40s, and when old-timers talk about those movies they just assume I don't know what they're talking about. I'm like bro I've probably seen that movie more than you have, I can be in this discussion! lol
I mean I’m @ 40 I think I know some shit now yall… I mean I did start calling Tim Tebow kid once I found out he was younger than me… comment withdrawn … Round Win old dudes everywhere
Dr link letter and Charles Manson this is an alternate universe
Howie is it true that you stole a dudes wallet on a flight back in the day?
Here's another mind blowing creepy story about that house on Cielo. The guy who played Manson in the 70's made for TV movie Helter Skelter ( Steve Railsback) actually lived in that house for a spell!
No way??? Thats crazy.. How do you know that? Its cool information thanks for sharing
. @meganrouse3970 Because I have a friend of mine who was in the film business at the time. She was working on a project with Railsback in '78. He found out she was a Yankee's fan as was he. He invited her over for a cookout to watch the one game playoff between the Red Sox and the Yankee's to go into the post season. It was the infamous Bucky Dent game. She accepted and drove up to the house. She didn't realize it at the time until she got to Cielo Drive and then it registered with her as she drove further up the hill until she found herself a 10050!! THE HOUSE! She went in and sure enough there was a cookout going on and she and the rest of the party watched the game in the exact same room that the murders happened! It creeped her out!
In fairness she said she didn't think that Railsback had a clue as to what house he was renting at the time and it was all just some kind of uncanny coincidence. But whether he did or didn't it's pretty freakin creepy and she had no reason to make up the story. It's definitely one of the strangest ones I know.
It's not me is it?🤔😐
Ed was great
He touted minimalism lifestyle and the fact he produced only a fist size amount of garbage/trash per day😂
Cielo Drive.
Yeah?
Charlie came from lil old hollywood
Charlie came from the midwest.
@@jkorshak pRoDUct
Wow. Getting a very creepy vibe from this...
Ed was on the FBI radar as a Socialist Anarchist back in the 70’s.
Now he's a climate change crackpot. Living proof that Green is the new Red.
Yeah now he is employed by them go figure !
10066 Cielo Dr (formerly 10050).
Sounds like he should have known about Howard. 😆
Who is this girl & why is she there?
You know who was heavily involved with Manson? Cass Elliott of The Mamas and Papas.
And Dennis Wilson
@@LetitRainNow450 Sly Stone said he met him but argued with him a lot.
@@324cmac wow. Is that in an interview?
@@LetitRainNow450 It's in a book called Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties (2019) by Tom O'Neill.
@@LetitRainNow450 The part about Sly Stone is from his recent memoir called Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin) (2023).