South America's Newest AFV | The Centauro 2 is going to Brazil!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 พ.ย. 2022
- On November 25th 2022, the Brazilian Army selected the B2 Centauro as their new Fire Support Vehicle under the VBC CAV program (Viatura Blindada de Combate Cavalaria). This marks a new milestone for the Brazilian Army, as it will not only operate fire support vehicles for the very first time, but also mark a significant step towards a modern Brazilian Army. The Brazilian Army currently plans to acquire 98 B2’s, of which 78 are to be assembled locally, in order to replace their current fleet of EE-9 Cascavels.
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From cascavels to centauros is quite the jump
Very quite. Until the Leos be upgraded and/or a new MBT be acquired, Centauros II will be the most advanced and capable armored vehicles of Brazilian Army.
Cascavel has not the same function of the Centauro... It is not a replacement!!
@@thiagoribeiro-nq3tm I think he meant that centauro will be the most advanced vehicle Brazil will operate.
@@thiagoribeiro-nq3tm I dont said that Cascavel is the most capable. I didn't even mentioned Cascavel. I said that CENTAURO II will be the most advanced armored vehicle of Brazilian Army until the Leos 1A5 modernization or replacement.
@@golffoxtrot3571 yeah, but the cascavel was not the most advanced vehicle in brazil... by far
Great News...........let's go Brazil!!!!!
Brazil and Italy eternal brothers.
Andiamo Fratello
Us free Montese
Brazil and Italy eternal brothers, since the old times and the bad times we have a special relationship, love Italy from Brazil.
Ofc our Brazilian brother chosed the Italian one, love from Italy ❤️🇮🇹🇧🇷
Thanks bro
The centauro is definetly a monster with that 120mm gun, abraço from Brazil 🇧🇷
@@ospreyslender8931 ... um monstro sem blindagem suficiente.
Obrigado
@@PauloPereira-jj4jv mas ele é velocidade, veículos sobre rodas é sobre isso ser mais rápido que seu inimigo realizar seu tiro antes do inimigo e sair o mais rápido possível de onde foi o visto
The inicial plan is 98 Centauro II but It can be increased to 221 Units
@Curupira kkkkkk
@Curupira quem comprou foi o jair.
e ele deixou o exército escolher, não fez que nem o Lula que tentou forçar a aeronáutica a escolher o caça francês
@Curupira do nada o maluco coloca política no meio
I hope so
@@truta3715 O Jair comprou? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Palato fine i brasiliani 🇮🇹❤️🇧🇷
Espera.os que tenha qualidade
Legal vídeo gringo falando sobre a nova aquisição do exército brasileiro 🇧🇷
Eles observam tudo.
Nós que não reparamos.
@@rafaelgoncalves1259 eles sim reparam, enquanto a maioria esmagadora dos brasileiros se quer tem conhecimento dessas notícias e esperam elas aparecer em jornais e ainda com informações totalmente distorcidas pela imprensa.
Larga de ser deslumbrado, mané !! Fecharam a ENGESA e agora o país IMPORTA ....
Já era irmão, não vem mais não kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
faz o L
I'm happy to see the Centauro 2 being chosen, but part of me is sad that we'll never see the 8x8 Guarani ifv version being fielded.
The Centauro 2 IS the 8x8 Guarani. Iveco developed this specifically for the Brazilian specification, which means as much commonality with the 6x6 Guarani as possible. That was the objective of the 8x8 concept in the Guarani program.
Larga de ser chorão, quando fazem alguma coisa sempre tem um mer... pra reclamar
@@melquizorobabelcalais7724 único que tá chorando aqui é você, Cabral. Toda escolha tem seus prós e contras.
@@rafaelschipiura9865 Centauro 2 was developed with Italian army specifications in mind to replace the B1 Centauro. Having said that, they are both part of an "enlarged family" and are linked to the same development line starting back with the B1, then the VBM Freccia and Guaranì (programs started in '98 and '99 respectively), SuperAV (on which the BAE ACV is based) and finally the Centauro 2. The Centauro 2 (and the SuperAV) enjoyed technology input from both the Freccia and Guaranì (eg. the H trasmission and the hull of the Centauro 2 are very much an evolution of B1 and Freccia, where the amphibious capability of the SuperAV are very much linked to the Guaranì development) and I'm sure that the Brasilian Centauros will have an high level of customization to respond to Brasilian requirements (and, indeed, already now a good portion of component used in the B2 were developed for the Guaranì, but this is mainly due to an industrial choice on the Iveco/Leonardo part and predate the Brasilian requirements, as I'm sure there are common component between Freccia and Guaranì for the same exact reason).
@@R00sc0 I don't mean more than the fact that it was developed after the Brazilian Army had this concept ready to go and that their input was incorporated into the project. I don't mean that the Guaraní was used as a base or that there was much technology incorporated into the project.
You're going to brazil! 🇧🇷
Looks like that'll be a great acquisition for Brazil. Really love the way modern wheeled armour is proliferating. Some great advantages over tracked vehicles depending on the use case.
Brazil is well aware of those advantages since WWII, where it only used wheeled vehicles.
COME TO BRAZIL!
Your tank sucks
YOU ARE GOING TO BRAZIL
🙄
The centauros are literally going to Brazil
th-cam.com/play/PLGXuTeL9vmE-jwHsD5EtqTBgTBQbcCNNw.html
The best there is. Thanks God the chinese one didn't have a chance! 😅
@Curupira o lula n tem decisão nessas coisas, e ele qr desmilitarizar tudo, se tu for roubado faz o L
@@curupira6683 o Lula não assumiu a presidência ainda, seu animal.
@Curupira KKKKKKKKKKK
@@curupira6683 kkkkkkkkkk mas o PT já está querendo cancelar a compra dos Centauro
@@lusca6357 bem não sei você tá inscrito nos mesmos canais que eu mas estamos no governo do pt e compra do centauro 2 foi retomada
A excellent video. I'll just point out that "Nova Couraça" was the denomination of the taskgroup in charge of the preliminary studies to the modernization of armored vehicles of Brazilian Army. When the program was approved by Army Staff, the name stuck for a period, but was changed, when both programs, Nova Couraça and Guarani, were merged in one Strategic Program called "Forças Blindadas" (Armored Forces) which encompass all vehicles described in video (EE-9, Leo 1A5 mods and VBCav [Centauro II], IFV, MBT and SP Arty acquisitions).
At last, it should be noted that with Centauro II acquisition, EE-9 modernization will be reassessed based on costs, because it should not exceed 30% of the acquistion cost of a new Centauro II.
It's a great news to the Brazilian Army, our tanks are obsolete and we need a new design
Yeah. now we have arguably the best 8x8 in the world
Not exactly, Centauro is not a tank, not specifically, the centauro is an armored troop transport vehicle, they will not replace the Leopards, but the Cascavels, it's not a tank.
I drove a Centauro in 1992, its great fun, good for Brazil.
Nice ...analyzing the technical factors, without a doubt it is the best tank hunter today. Apparently, this tank acts as a reconnaissance and sniper, shoots and disappears with speed.
Awesome take on the subject, congratulation Tank Encyclopedia team!
The inicial batch bought is 98, althogh, Brazil secured the option to buy other 221 B2s. Such quantity has to be taken into account cause if Brazil wants to keep the same structure it has right now, it would need to replace all of it's 409 EE-9 Cascavel, I think it's highly unlikely that the brazilian army will keep just the inicial 98.
Allthough Brazil has/had (they never changed the number from what ther originally purchased, a number are definately written off by now) about 400 EE-9s, only about 110 are actually in operation in the units. The rest is reserves spread over the units. 98 is pretty much the the little reduced number of EE-9s in active operation. The 221 B2s would mean that Brazil would actually get about 120 B2s as reserves unless they start adding more cavalry units.
But considering the current build schedule, those 221 B2s would take until like 2060 to 2070 to get built sadly.
@@blasekiller9733 As far as I knew, Brazil had originally 600 EE-9, and in 2010 409 were operational and 98 were being modernized.
About only 110 being operational I never heard of it.
@@henryquecabral9357 basicaly, they bought 409 from Engesa at the time in total. Then you just start looking at the regiments and squadrons that actually use EE-9s and their organisation. Both cavalry regiment and squadron each operate a set number of EE-9s in platoons. Put those together and you get to the number in active service, whcih was around 110-ish. I did the calculation for a future article to be released on Tanks Encyclopedia.
I checked my article, brazil has combined 23 cavalry regiments and squadrons. Each of these has 3 platoons in which each platoon has a section of 2 EE-9s, meaning 6 EE-9s in a regiment/platoon atleast in active operation. Multiply this by the amount of regiments and squadrons and you have 138 EE-9s in active use (correction from my 110) and the rest is reserves.
@@blasekiller9733 Thank you so much for your research! Do you have a link for your article? Sounds very interesting.
Surely it's a good choice, hoping that some politicians won't mess with it.
Centaur's hull could be used also for others vehicles, such as mortar/AT missiles carriers, command and support ones.
I think Brazil's 6x6 Guarani's hull can do this for a lower price. There are plenty of Guaranis in Brazilian army without even a machine gun on top. Brazil also purchased this year the Spike LR-2 ATGM.
I am happy that centauro won because IVECO has its headquarters in my city and this contract could make them a bunch of money :)
Turin?
Friend, it is known that the program foresees an assembly line in Brazil, likely at the factory in Minas Gerais or in a new location, of the 98, 72 will have to be manufactured in Brazil
Some points: saying that Centauro was pourposely build to be a FSV is an hell of understatement.
Centauro was pourpousely build to have the same high pressure gun used on MBT and to be able to use
It at any angle.
Other "guns" of FSV ( good try but seriously, let's try to find a single english word to translate autoblindo, please) even in 105mm are either low or medium pressure.
B-2 is just a further evolution of the vehicle, in some day even less brilliant than the original ( i.e. it's way taller and bulky due the need to have a protection against mines)
Essa parceria vai longe isso e respeito e confiança, depois que Alemanha proibiu a venda da Mercedez para os Sistema Astro acho que Alemanha não leva nunca mais aqui
Sério?
Me conte mais, não sabia disso
Cara nós podemos facilmente fabricar a carroceria do astro aqui no Brasil, não precisamos da Mercedes.
@@ArnaldoBART @IGORMSH Sério, a carroceria mudou pra Tatra porque a Alemanha proibiu a Mercedes de vender as carrocerias deles pra armas, eles devem ter requerimentos de que essas carrocerias só sejam usadas pra logística.
@@carlos6116cs Agora que a Tatra abriu uma fábrica no Brasil, eles tem o conhecimento pra fazer as carrocerias aqui. Na década de 80 a Avibras pensou em fazer as carrocerias aqui e não tinha o conhecimento necessário, apesar de tentar. Não foi a primeira escolha deles importar.
E de lá pra cá não teve nenhuma evolução no setor automobilístico no Brasil que signifique que hoje seria possível alguma empresa nacional fabricar essas carrocerias.
That was the best choice we made.
Ótima aquisição 🇧🇷
It's always a pleasure to get a review for the Army Forces through the outside lenses, especially considering the quality of this channel; great job, got a decent overview in a short time about the subject.
Very well made video.
Based.
We're really glad back here with the long-awaited choice. This one is going to be a real upgrade in our forces. Our geography demands more wheeled vehicles, capable of projecting power with mobility and flexibility.
Good Choice. Centauro is the most suitable vehicle for those countries that has long coast-line to defend.
Gripens, Centauros, i am so happy to see our armed forces being modernized
My dad served has tanker in brazil and they talk a Lot from this tanks
Awesome vídeo amazing channel
Its a great News!! Congratulations for your Channel!
I hope our leopard uses the 120mm turret of the centaurs
Thanks for the vídeo
Feliz pela aquisição de alto nível 🇧🇷🇧🇷
I remember Brazil made a very good tank in the 1990's and it was in class with the Abrama and other great tanks but the cold war ended and it killed the sales but Brazil is very capable of making great armored vehicles on par with the U.S.,Germany ect.
Engesa Osório.
Mehh I'd place the Osorio in the same category as the C1 Ariete.
Not the heaviest armored MBTs out there. The Osorio is very light at 44 tons.
Italy has long and good military relations with Brazil, started with Beretta=Taurus, then the AMX plane and now the Centauro and Lince, which was even bought by the Russians!
Thee best choice of all! Now it's time to search for another MBT's!
Thats nice!!
great content good job
[COME TO BRAZIL INTENSIFIES]
Love this
Brasil potência econômica e militar
Great video,
awesome news 😃
The reaction speed of the Centauro 2 is unmatched
With its 120mm, it can also be used to great effect as an infantry support vehicle, or as an anti armor vehicle
There is nothing in South America that can deal with it, even the Leopard 2A4 isn’t as advanced, doesn’t have as good of a fire control, and doesn’t have gen 3 thermals
The fire on the move capabilities will make it a very very dangerous opponent in the jungle and mountains, and Brazils M60’s and Leopard 1’s can be used as Vanguards and cleanup, or as the front line in more flat and even terrain
Poland buying everything that is listed as "made in Korea"
*Brazilian army* buying everything that is listed as "made in Italy"
Comic times these, aren't they?
Somebody's been watching Perun :D
Guarani is a brazilian product!! It is made by IVECO, but is a brazilian proyect!
"Made in Sweden" F39 Gripen
Scorpene made in france, Nuclear Submarine Sn 10 Made in Brazil, Super Tucano Made in Brazil, fragate Tamandaré made in Brazil kkk we have a lot a project and we need help from confiable parcers like Iveco, ICN
@@pemky6717 Scorpene is still made in Brazil, but the proyect (still has ~30% brasilian, Riachuelo's class is bigger) is french
Now we really need to replace Leopard 1A5 and M113 as IFV.
Verdade, depois que Alemanha proibiu a venda da mercedez para os Astro acho que Alemanha não leva mais aqui nunca mais
M113 não é um ifv
Nossa, conseguiu fazer 2 comparações erradas em 1 minuto.
@@zoro7028 obvio que não, mas é usado dessa forma no EB
Os leopard 2A5 parecem uma boa opção
lesgooooo!!!
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷💪
Essa voz do dublador é a mesma do BF2 kk
Something very charming about the constant attempt to keep trying to make old ideas seem new by assigning fancier names to them. If you talk to the defense contractors trying to sell them, Fire Support Vehicles are cutting edge technology, when the basic concept is very old. There is not a huge leap from the Second World War's big guns on halftracks like Tank Destroyer M3 and these things; just purpose-built and with a turret, but the same basic idea of sticking a tank's gun on something much lighter than a tank to provide more mobile firepower.
The EE 9's need to be transferred to the BMC, this way they will have more available FSV's to deploy and support their Marines. Tge SK105 is great but no numbers but adding the numbers of the EE 9 will be a great addition, even if the BMC organize them into an QRF fir the BMC along with EE 11's . The USMC should get the Centauro 2 as well to complement the ACV and bring that heavy caliber firepower that they lost with the deactivation of their tank battalions.
So I guess Italy is getting a Brazil subtree lol
they are just buying them, so brazil is getting an italian subtree i think
@@nonsoboh16ita82he means in war thunder
I wish that the Chilean Army and hope the Brazilian Army both modernize their Leo1V Leo 1A5 with the HITFACT 120 mm turret
>5:00
Just how high is the center of gravity of those? Feels like they are about to tip over.
Not much higher than all yhe other APCs these days. All to survive an IED basicaly.
"lots of wheels" as an easier-to -field-service solution to treads is basically glocktech
Boxer may have been a better buy in the long term. But I see why they went with Centauro 2. The plan to fit a new turret to Leopard 1 is a brilliant idea for Brazil. Especially if there is technology transfer and domestic production facility. They are a nation with huge potential yet to be realised. If they manage to stay away from the ChiComs Brazils time will come sooner rather than later.
Problem with buying the boxer is that you would mainly buy it for being multi purpose. The issue is that Brazil already has the Guarani 6x6 for this and only really needs the 8x8 for FSV duties, as such, better to go with a dedicated vehicle (especially consifering the Guarani and the B2 have a 29% parts commonality from the start)
This seems particularly weird to say with the ChiComs being the one sure power of the future.
@@yum9918 The ChiComs are evil, barbaric and cannot be trusted. They are a blight of this planet akin to smallpox and need to be eradicated. The horrors and corruption of communism is the reason why all such states rot from the inside and eventually implode. The long suffering Chinese people deserve to be liberated and given back their freedom.
The government of Taiwan is there as a shining example of what is possible. Just ready and waiting to step in and fill the role to lead a united China. The CCP must be held accountable and charged with crimes against humanity.
@@gusgone4527 I see, I thought there was an actual reason, but its just schizo shit that is going directly against reality.
Thanks for clearing that up.
@@yum9918 That's fine. Now you can return to harvesting organs for transplant, from political prisoners. Have a very nice day.
Some Mordekaiser reference in title ?
🇧🇷
Is the Vextra dead? Rooikat took a stab too?
You dare summoning the brazilians?💀
Well well. It seems 5 billion reais is controversial here. The purchase was haulted. Lets see how this ends...
cool
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Now, the Centauro II is going to Vasco Armed forces...
98? Brazil needs 500 centauros another 500 medium tanks plus another 1000 self propelled artillery pieces
Hopefully they just sell their Cascavels, Amhara and Ethiopian army needs them to fight TPLF terrorists
Nigerian Army too
Good idea
Probably goes to Uruguay or Argentina
ENGESA sold some to Congo, Zimbabwe, Nigeria and so on, but after decades of civil wars on those regions they were destroyed, so some African Warlords ended up improvising technicals with EE-9's turrets and some of the armor plates.
They are not the best options for urban warfare, but they can be very effective in a open field.
@@carloshenriquezimmer7543 true
is that the payday 2 soundtrack in the background
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Já foi de base esse projeto...
Vai pras forças armadas do vasco
@@Karedu. Kkkkkkkkkkk exatamente!
Vasco fortemente armado com centauros II!
So, you saw that this purchase was put on hold by a Brazilian court.
Contract has been signed now, the supreme court overruled the suspension.
na verdade, a sigla VBCC significa: Viatura Blindada de Combate de Cavalaria. tem um "DE"
🇮🇹💪🏻
I think that the agreement was cancelled today
Infelizmente
Cascavel has not the same function of the Centauro... It is not a replacement!!
This deal has been suspended by the corrupt court of brazil.
Não fala merda, foi barrado por causa do apelo de um advogado, não por causa do pt, estuda os fatos antes de falar bosta.
@@caninon7570 E onde está escrito PT lá em cima? Você é burro?
@@caninon7570 Filhote ele falou corte corrupta e nunca mencionou um unico partido partido politico. Aprende a ler um pouco porque quem ta falando merda aqui é voce.
@@Henriquesilva-ri5mw Cala boca, não tem nada aver com corrupção o corte, não importa o partido.
@@brazilstreets7955 Foda-se, não tem nada aver com corrupção, vc que é burro.
Strange that no words for the hundreds of cascavel of several versions sold and participating in wars.
I smell another Italian premium...
Centauro: "noooo, i dont want to go to brazil!"
Why?
@@comentedonakeyboard its a meme
@@aslamstudio558 aha
@W P i must admit i've never heard it.
News: Leopard renovations are suspended as for now. reason being: MBT parts rose too much in prices because of the war in ukraine, so it will be postponed since its not "urgent matters".
it will probably take some time to get this show back on the road, so probably renovating won't even make sense then. we'll see
Not anymore. Our judiciary system hates the military, lol
STJ overruled the suspension, B2 can be bought now
Great video
Thais tanks,with Rubber tires,If hit the Rubber tires with shot they desinflate and imobilize the tank?!?!
No, it can still move just slower
Despite its great engineering, Engesa had a terrible marketing department. They used to spend millions on development of new products with none or close to none market studies.
Some are dressed better than the people that legally live here
tenho certeza q um brasileiro ta lendo isso lkkk
NEWS UPDATE: The Brazilian Federal Justice Court decided to block the contract(of buying the centauro) signature in December 6. Their excuse was the contract price of 5 Bilions Reais (900m Euro) was too expensive and the money would be more well expend in Health and Education area, even after de 5b Reais where going to be paid in 16 years to Iveco and the money was already reserved in the defense budget. Under the lines: The truth is that the new elected governement is left handed and gives zero fuck to the defense economy and investment in Brazil and only care about populist proposals and defend left handed dictators such as in Venezuela
Further update: The supreme court ruled in favor of the deal and has initiated a purchase of 98 units
Not anymore.
Conheçam o canal do caiafa master um dos melhores jornalistas de defesa do Brasil.
Per come la vedo io centauro 2 e il miglior anticarro al mondo a differenza dei cincolati e più snello e veloce e questo fa la differenza tra vivere e morire
Aw but I like the Cascavel - hope they sell them to someone else.
Algumas unidades do Cascavel vão ser modernizadas com mísseis antitanque e o restante acho que vai ser doado para países amigos
they sold it to more than 17 countries!
@@thiagoribeiro-nq3tm Ah I meant the ones they currently have!
@@fraservickers1257 The current Cascavel's are going to be modernized, ATGMs and Thermals.
centauro fez o L.
SELVA
And we are also going to win the 2022 Cup. We don't take the world because we're busy making memes.
Must be hard to build a combat vehicle capable of operating in BR terrain.
Not really, the very south of Brazil bordering argentina is excellent terrain for AFVs which stretches through Uruguay and the north of Argentina.
@@blasekiller9733 but do they intend to use only in that specif environment?
That's what? 10% of the total Brazilian border if not less?
There are swamps in the Paraguay and Bolivia border, jungles at north Bolivia, Peru, Colombia and French border, jungle and mountains clash in Venezuelan borders.
If Brazil suffered a naval invasion, the coast are full of hills that end on the beaches.
Is it even possible to build something that operate in all that?
@@gabrielb5742 they mainly use it in that area because that is where pretty much all the conflict is going to be that is significant and where you can actually operate these types of vehicles properly. For the paraguayan border you have the guaranis which are amphibious and with good pathing tanks can be operated there. With venezuela you got the roraima region where two units of B2s will be located as part of the jungle brigade there (roraima doesnt have too much jungle overgrowth). Naval invasion is possible but currently Brazil is fielding its mechanized forces where their biggest rivals are and their most important cities, I.E. bordering Argentina where these units can be used the most. You can pretty much give up using vehicles in most of the amazon anyway, so no point really of using an AFV there. The Brazilians have the vehicles where they need them the most in the areas where they intend to use them and can only use them.
Long story short is, if Brazil cant use a certain vehicle in a certain region or climate due to the terrain there. Most other countries would be unable to get vehicles in there too let alone set up logistics for it. Brazil has the vehicles where they can use them and where they need them the most. For the rest its more old school foot work and jeeps essentially, no point in bringing AFVs into a jungle.
@@blasekiller9733 yeah, thank God we have the best jungle force in the world, or we would have lost the Amazons long time ago, we should be more concerned by losing the amazon by our own deforestation, imo they should hunt the grilheiros like animals
payday 2 music is a banger but kinda doesn't fit the narration at all
F ENGESSA ✊🏼
i'm sad to inform that an asshole judge has outruled the decision to buy the tanks, this is just another example of the judiciary dictatorship we brazilians are living under nowadays
Concordo
Brazil needs import veiclhes is a shame
I'm brazilian but i don't know about it.
Foi confirmado a compra
@@martinxs4012 Gostei. Boa compra hehehe