There is also the possibility of a Kennedy/Kennedy ticket in 1968. There is nothing in the Constitution which would prevent two brothers from being on the same ticket. They would have to just have residence in separate states. RFK would come from New York and Ted would come from Massachusetts.
They likely would have made a rule stating no close relations like siblings, parents and children or grandparents or grandchildren could run for preaident if someone closely related already was president
@garliccola9522 I don't like the idea of the Presidency handed to like a family heirloom. A four year or 8 year wait would be ok. Also, I wouldn't be suprised if there was a party rule on nepotism when it comes to having relatives on the same ticket. Or maybe I would endorse it. However, there should be a mechanism where the Party Convention could allow a waiver to those rule, with a 2/3rds supermajority. There might be a futuristic ticket where a 4-star General could be a Presidential Nominee and there's a 3-term Senator (who's the brother of the General) as the VP nominee.
Yes because they were contemporaries since a young age. They were quite fond of each other because they were both sort of loners. I think Nixon seems quite sweet when he talks about JFK, you can see how it prides him how far their little frat club went in world affairs, instead of being gloomy about his death, they actually shared many personal memories.
Been killing it with the content lately. Would love to see more videos about political families in American history. Bushes,Adams, Roosevelts, Tafts, heck a video about Robert Todd Lincoln would be cool
_”The closest familial pairs in presidential history were the father/son pair of John Adams and John Quincy Adams and the grandfather/grandson pair of William Henry Harrison and Benjamin Harrison”_ George W. Bush: Are my dad and I chopped liver?
@@MrBrewskiDrewski I am aware of that, but, I’m just using the context in which he spoke of. Then, if that’s the case, it was poor writing. To clarify his point of view, he should’ve prefaced “presidential history” with “up until that time”. Out of objectivity, I watched the video a couple of times to figure out what the intended context was but he definitely did not establish present or past tense. Based on his syntax, he did not go out of his way to imply which tense he was using. Even the previous statement before that did not establish what tense he was using. “America had never elected a brother of a president to the same office”. This statement could’ve benefited from a modifier like “Up until this time…” This would have established the tense of what time period he was referring to. He’s the author, we are the audience, the burden to apply correct context is on the former, not the latter.
@@HummaKavula-DontVoteForStupid Do you feel a sense of intellectual superiority by pointing all of this out? That's the vibe I get. You are taking this far too seriously and being far too obsessive over it. This is not something worth writing so much about and arguing about.
@@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 I’m sorry if my rebuttal to someone who challenged my point-of-view leaves you gobsmacked. I guess you’d like me to apologize next for being an intellectual and a free thinker? Why are you worried about what a stranger thinks and posts on a social media forum? If you’re asking if I feel “intellectually superior” then my retort is did my post make you feel “intellectually inferior”?
@@HummaKavula-DontVoteForStupid Ah okay, the way you responded to me answers my question for me, thank you. No need for any elaboration. I know exactly the type of person you are.
Amazing video. Imagine how well off this country would be had at least one of them also become president, especially Bobby Kennedy 1969-1977. Hope to see more from you soon!
I was a teenager when JFK Jr. and his wife perished in that plane accident and remember a crass joke from the time: Q- What do the Kennedy's miss most about Martha's Vineyard? A - The runway!
Makes me worry about RFK Jr. and his run for the Presidency as an Independent. I'm hoping he has Secret Service protection... and that any vehicle he rides is safe to use...
@anthonyminimum : From left to right it's first Joseph Patrick Kennedy, Jr. : July 25, 1915 - August 12, 1944 , next is John Fitzgerald Kennedy : May 29, 1917 - November 22, 1963, next afterwards is Robert Francis Kennedy : November 20, 1925 - June 6, 1968, and finally Edward Moore Kennedy : February 22, 1932 - August 25, 2009
@@JackRabbit-us9uk depends on what you mean when you say “qualified.” But he was a remarkable man. A trained lawyer, skillful actor, a pilot, was very physically fit, was smart without thinking he was the smartest in any room. But most importantly he was just a down to earth guy despite his fame. Dude could have done anything and his business was trying to bring politics to the people. He was trying to get ordinary citizens involved in politics. And he truly believed in his father’s new frontier. The idea of public service, of people building a better country. And let’s face facts, he was a good looking well spoken guy who was our country’s “prince.” I’m pretty sure that’s all he needed.
Compared to the corruption of most other politicians they pale in comparison. And of course you make this asinine comment and neglect to mention their lofty and noble goals and ambitions. You are nothing more than an amoeba.
I agree, I never really realized that the Kennedy family was a rich and powerful family with a lot of connections. The kind we'd be wary of and hate otherwise
@@prettyshinyspaghetti8332 It makes sense when you look at the family patriarch.. Joe Kennedy one of the most shady figures in U.S. history a lot of people don't know about
Ted Kennedy was a thorn in President Carter's side, and with Carter's sagging popularity in 1980, Kennedy nearly took the nomination from him. They put their differences aside temporarily when Carter helped dedicate the JFK Presidential Library in 1979. But the poor economy, the Iran hostage crisis, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the oil crisis nearly propelled Ted Kennedy to the 1980 Democratic nomination; however, rules fights went in Carter's favor at the Convention in New York City, thus securing the nomination for Carter. All of this, plus Ronald Reagan's popularity, resulted in a huge defeat for Jimmy Carter on Nov. 4, 1980.
@prettyshinyspaghetti8332 Unfortunately, I disagree. RFK Jr. applied for Secret Service protection, but was denied. However, Former Governor Nikki Haley also applied for Secret Service protection. I understand that there are only so many people, that the Secret Service can protect. In the same breath, I like to know what criteria has to be met, in order to get Secret Service Protection??
It's fascinating how much the Kennedy's were able to be a part of the culture of America. I'm not sure how good Robert's presidency would've been due to how much tension there was during the time, his hands likely would've been in a bind from being able to achieve in a similar to what John wanted.
True, but that was the whole point of their campaigns, wasn’t it? To not be bound and gagged by the establishment and unelected elites? I feel as though this family has been snuffed out for a reason.
Men who served much longer such as William McKinley and Grover Cleveland have almost no place in the broad cultural memory, yet Kennedy does despite having served less than three years. Even Lyndon Johnson, who served over five years, and was quite a larger-than-life character (in his personality and presence) isn't nearly as well-known as Kennedy.
By 1968 he had lost 4 siblings, 2 because of plane crashes and 2 because of assassinations. Bobby had 10 kids that Teddy needed to take care of, plus JFK Jr and Caroline.
I think it would be an interesting video to speculate on the country’s direction if this did occur. They all seem pretty similar on the issues. It would be crazy to think about possibly 24 years of near similar policy’s put forth by the brothers.
Mary Jo wasnt his secretary. She was a staffer on Bobby's presidential campaign. Im not saying he was a saint, but 4 of his siblings died before he was 40 and he suddenly had to be the patriarch. I probably would have started drinking too. He did a lot of good in the Senate. He saved us from Robert Bork, he created Obama care too.
His secretary died in a car crash and he didn't help her. Drove the car i to a lake by mistake iirc. He could've very well been president had that not happened.
When you mentioned family pairs in the White House, You forgot George H. W. Bush and his son George W. Bush and although not that close and can be considered a strech, cousins Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin D. Roosevelt
In the alternate history novel "Fatherland" in which Hitler wins WWII, President Kennedy visits Germany to celebrate the still alive Hitler's 75th birthday... the President Kennedy is, however Joseph P. Kennedy the father....
I always enjoying reading comments like this. I think there are some people too who only knew JFK and Ted but not RFK, because Ted was around and politically active in the 21st Century. I doubt many people know who Joe Jr was at all.
Ted Kennedy made it to the Democratic National Convention in 1980 trying to unseat Jimmy Carter. However, the party wouldn’t overturn certain rules to give Kennedy his nomination. Although, he suspended his candidacy, he did get votes against Carter. This caused Carter to lose votes and Carter became the first incumbent president to lose multiple states he had won in the previous presidential election. Reagan might not have won if it weren’t for Kennedy’s involvement
First incumbent to lose multiple states he had previously won? You mean in the primaries or in the general? The nationwide primary was still fairly new by 1980, so that stat isn’t that big considering the sample size. Numerous incumbents have lost states even in successful re-election bids, like FDR in ‘40 and ‘44 and Wilson in 1916
@@metroidnerd9001 I believe the article I read refers to primaries. Not sure if he got any votes in the general election. I looked into it and there’s no info on how many votes Kennedy got, if any, on Election Day
@@donkraemer50 are you implying that the Democrats did something differently than Republicans? I don’t know too many points in American political history, where one party had that much of an advantage in the electoral process than the other.
Certain types of jobs should not be handed off to members of a family, as if it were an inheritance. I would include offices such as a dentist, a lawyer, a neurosurgeon, a general, and elective office (particularly the Presidency). Each person should be judged on his or her own merit. Family ties can be both a positive and negative. RFK Jr's Presidential Run is getting positive media attention because he is a member of the Kennedy Dynasty. He might not be seen as a serious candidate, except for name recognition. However, if George P. Bush ever ran for President, he might recieve greater scrutiny from the press based on the fact that he is the son and grandson of Republican Presidents. 🎉
I think it’s because the Bushes aren’t exactly recognized as great leaders, both left and right. If it were the descendant of Reagan or Lincoln, they’d definitely get more positive traction!
It's an interesting world to think about, the one where the Kennedys all survived and all had successful terms as president. Joe Jr. was born in 1915, JFK in 1917, RFK in 1925, and Ted in 1932. You have to be 35 years old to be Vice President or President. This means the first elections they'd be old enough to be either Vice President or President in were 1952 (1950), 1952 (1952), 1964 (1960), and 1968 (1967), respectively. If a Kennedy brother runs as soon as eligible, and wins every election, the timeline would look like this: Joe Jr. Presidency: 1952-1960 JFK Presidency: 1960-1968 RFK Presidency: 1968-1976 Ted Presidency: 1976-1984 As noted in the video, this would be a span of 32 years, covering the entirety of the 60's and the 70's. This would replace the presidencies of Eisenhower, L. B. Johnson, Nixon, Ford, and Carter, as well as partially replacing the presidency of Reagan. Not only that, but every brother could serve as Vice President to the next oldest, except for the 1960-1964 term, since RFK's birthday is November 20th, after Election Day. I wonder what would happen to them afterwards in this timeline? Here's some thoughts of mine. Joe Jr. I only know of in the military; I know nothing about who he was as a person, but assuming he enjoyed being in the military, I imagine he would serve as President, and then might be appointed Secretary of Defense, or otherwise take an active role in the armed forces. Did the Joint Chiefs of Staff exist at that time? JFK would not serve as Joe Jr.'s Vice President, but would instead serve in Congress, as he did in history. After his presidency, I imagine he'd become a sort of head of the family, devoting his time to making the life of the Kennedy family better in the private realm. RFK would be the first to serve as Vice President to his brother, replacing Johnson in 1964. He was a lawyer, and, in this scenario, would likely be appointed to the Supreme Court after his presidency. Assuming Earl Warren still becomes Chief Justice in 1953, and still retires in 1969, feeling safe that the Dems will appoint his successor, RFK himself would appoint the next Chief Justice. In the real world, this was Warren Burger, who was appointed by Nixon and was Chief Justice from 1969-1986. In 1986, RFK would be 61. This is close to the age that both Warren and Burger were appointed Chief Justice, so I imagine that RFK would appoint the next Chief Justice, who would then retire at some point in the 80's, to be succeeded by RFK himself. Bonus points if Ted appoints his brother Chief Justice. Ted would serve as RFK's Vice President for both terms, and relish in this role, after serving in Congress during the terms of Joe Jr. and JFK; he'd be old enough (25) to run for the House in 1957, and old enough to run for the Senate (30) in 1962. I imagine he'd win a seat in the house in 1958, retain it in 1960, and run to fill JFK's Senate seat in 1962, which he'd win, as he did in history. He'd serve in Congress and build a good reputation for himself, good enough that he'd be selected for Vice President in 1968. The Kennedy brothers ticket would be a novelty for voters; i.e. "They're brothers so they can work well together, vote for them". Ted would be an active Vice President, heavily involved in the Senate, so much so that he'd be unhappy to leave the role to run for President in 1976. He would do so anyways, and not terribly enjoy the Presidency, so much so that he'd run for Senate again in 1984, the last year of his Presidency. He'd win the election and serve in the Senate until his death, as in history. This would completely alter the course of US political history. Without the Johnson and Nixon Presidencies, so much of the political landscape of the late 60's and 70's changes. Who would've been Joe Jr.'s Vice President? Who would've been Ted's? Would conservatism still rise during the late 60's and 70's? Would Reagan still get elected Governor of California in 1966? What would happen to Nixon and Johnson? Would Ted's Presidential aloofness enable Reagan to win in 1984? This feels like an alternate history novel. Somebody should write that. A nice video, I'm quite grateful for the thought it promoted within me. Thanks for reading.
Kerry and Ted tried to shake my mom's hand at some political event. They went to shake her hand but she put her hand behind her back. My mother always hated the Kennedys and Kerry. I hope Joe Sr. Rots in hell for what he did to his disabled daughter.
People think of the Kennedys as America's great political dynasty, yet others have greater claim to that title. The Adams family of Massachusetts (starting with John Adams) actually should be considered our great political dynasty: Two members of the family became President, another became a famed diplomat, and later generations became renowned historians. But still, the Kennedys have that magic name - and that legacy of having risen from the level of the powerless Irish immigrant that was the family's ancestor to the symbol of American success. We have always loved the story of the underdog making it in a vastly rigged system and taking it over. Consider, however: Only one Kennedy became President, and, aside from Bobby, no other Kennedy reached the same height. Even today, there are Kennedys in public office (excluding John Kennedy of Louisiana, who is not directly related). But let's face it, none of the Kennedys, except maybe Teddy, had a lasting effect on American history. Jack Kennedy's record in Congress was abysmal - and, realistically, his record as President wasn't much better. Bobby got his seat in the Senate solely to strengthen an eventual run at the Presidency, and I can't even think of an achievement worthy of the perceived name by any other Kennedy family member. And Teddy got HIS Senatorial seat due to his family ties and only much later when it was clear that he would never be President did he really begin to establish a legacy as Senator. By the end of his life, Teddy probably had the greatest effect on American history by actual deeds and not just as a symbol of his brothers' martyrdom.
I’d say kennedy’s Apollo mission was pretty significant, perhaps not politically but in many other ways. Personally I don’t think lbj would’ve ever introduced the civil rights bill or cared for anti-segregation so it’s a good thing the Kennedys (Bobby was very involved) introduced it
If the kennedy dynasty succeeded, i could see it like this: Joseph P Kennedy sr, 33th president, 1940 to 1948, aged 52 to aged 60 Dwight D Eisenhower, 34th president, 1948 to 1956, aged 58 to aged 62 Joe Kennedy jr, 35th president, 1956 to 1964, aged 41 to age 49 Richard Nixon, 36th president, 1964 to 1972, aged 51 to aged 59 John F Kennedy sr, 37th president, 1972 to 1980, aged 55 to aged 63 George h w bush sr, 38th president, 1980 to 1988, aged 56 to aged 64 Robert F Kennedy sr, 39th president, 1988 to 1996, aged 64 to 73 George W Bush jr, 40th president, 1996 to 2004, aged 50 to aged 58 Donald Trump, 41st president, 2004 to 2008, aged 58 to aged 62 John F Kennedy jr, 42nd president, 2008 to 2016, aged 48 to aged 56 Jeb Bush, 43rd president, 2016 to 2020, aged 63 to aged 68 Robert F Kennedy jr, 44th president, 2020 to 2028, aged 64 to aged 72 Ronald Desantis, 45th president, 2028 to 2036, aged 50 to aged 58 Patrick J Kennedy, 46th president, 2036 to 2044, aged 69 to aged 77 Vivek Ramaswamy, 47th president, 2044 to 2052, aged 58 to aged 66 Joe Kennedy III, 48th president, 2052 to 2060, aged 71 to aged 79 Mr beast, 49th president, 2060 to 2068, aged 62 to aged 70
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Imagine a universe where all 4 of them became President, or at least 2 of them. Interesting to think about.
24 years could have been
Well we are on Earth-616. Maybe it happened on Earth-849?
There is also the possibility of a Kennedy/Kennedy ticket in 1968.
There is nothing in the Constitution which would prevent two brothers from being on the same ticket. They would have to just have residence in separate states. RFK would come from New York and Ted would come from Massachusetts.
They likely would have made a rule stating no close relations like siblings, parents and children or grandparents or grandchildren could run for preaident if someone closely related already was president
@garliccola9522
I don't like the idea of the Presidency handed to like a family heirloom. A four year or 8 year wait would be ok.
Also, I wouldn't be suprised if there was a party rule on nepotism when it comes to having relatives on the same ticket. Or maybe I would endorse it. However, there should be a mechanism where the Party Convention could allow a waiver to those rule, with a 2/3rds supermajority. There might be a futuristic ticket where a 4-star General could be a Presidential Nominee and there's a 3-term Senator (who's the brother of the General) as the VP nominee.
I love that every time Kennedy is spoken of Nixon always makes an appearance lol
Yes because they were contemporaries since a young age. They were quite fond of each other because they were both sort of loners. I think Nixon seems quite sweet when he talks about JFK, you can see how it prides him how far their little frat club went in world affairs, instead of being gloomy about his death, they actually shared many personal memories.
Kennedys are like JoJos and Nixon is like Dio, always coming back and outliving all of them
"Nothing bad ever happens to the Kennedy's"
Waaaah!
*Meet the Sniper*
We need a movie like the Iron Claw about the Kennedys.
That could be amazing.
A Kennedy dynasty probably could've happened, but when you lose half your sons to assassination... yeah that killed that
I mean it still happened. A dynasty isn’t just presidents only.
They had it coming
And one to war
Been killing it with the content lately. Would love to see more videos about political families in American history. Bushes,Adams, Roosevelts, Tafts, heck a video about Robert Todd Lincoln would be cool
If you’re doing a video on Robert Lincoln, I’d like a few minutes to the adorable shenanigans of his younger brothers, Willie & Tad!
It'd be cool to see a part 2 to this video explaining the political careers of other members of the Kennedy family
I plan to do a video discussing the whole Kennedy family tree - going forward and backward.
_”The closest familial pairs in presidential history were the father/son pair of John Adams and John Quincy Adams and the grandfather/grandson pair of William Henry Harrison and Benjamin Harrison”_
George W. Bush: Are my dad and I chopped liver?
Up to that point in time. Bush Sr. wasn’t in office until 89.
@@MrBrewskiDrewski I am aware of that, but, I’m just using the context in which he spoke of. Then, if that’s the case, it was poor writing. To clarify his point of view, he should’ve prefaced “presidential history” with “up until that time”.
Out of objectivity, I watched the video a couple of times to figure out what the intended context was but he definitely did not establish present or past tense. Based on his syntax, he did not go out of his way to imply which tense he was using. Even the previous statement before that did not establish what tense he was using. “America had never elected a brother of a president to the same office”. This statement could’ve benefited from a modifier like “Up until this time…” This would have established the tense of what time period he was referring to.
He’s the author, we are the audience, the burden to apply correct context is on the former, not the latter.
@@HummaKavula-DontVoteForStupid Do you feel a sense of intellectual superiority by pointing all of this out? That's the vibe I get. You are taking this far too seriously and being far too obsessive over it. This is not something worth writing so much about and arguing about.
@@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 I’m sorry if my rebuttal to someone who challenged my point-of-view leaves you gobsmacked. I guess you’d like me to apologize next for being an intellectual and a free thinker? Why are you worried about what a stranger thinks and posts on a social media forum? If you’re asking if I feel “intellectually superior” then my retort is did my post make you feel “intellectually inferior”?
@@HummaKavula-DontVoteForStupid Ah okay, the way you responded to me answers my question for me, thank you. No need for any elaboration. I know exactly the type of person you are.
Amazing video. Imagine how well off this country would be had at least one of them also become president, especially Bobby Kennedy 1969-1977.
Hope to see more from you soon!
Yayyyyyyyyyy RFK❤
theres an interesting video about what would have been if that happened!! "what if Nixon was never president" by alternatehistoryhub
He would make a video about Jimmy Carter being the first president to reach 100 years old I hope.
Out of all the Kennedy brothers, I think Bobby would have made a great president.
From the English sitcom Phoenix Nights:
Jerry: (Referring to bowel movements) "Are you regular, Brian?"
Brian: "Like a Kennedy funeral".
I was a teenager when JFK Jr. and his wife perished in that plane accident and remember a crass joke from the time:
Q- What do the Kennedy's miss most about Martha's Vineyard?
A - The runway!
To use a sports analogy, Joe Kennedy Sr was basically the Lavar Ball of politics
imagine 32 consecutive years of kennedy presidencies! each brother having 2 terms, that’s a whole generation 😭
Joseph Kennedy Jr: 1953-1961
John F. Kennedy: 1961-1969
Robert F Kennedy: 1969-1977
Ted Kennedy: 1977-1985
Great video, but sometimes I feel like this family is cursed due to the tragedys
Makes me worry about RFK Jr. and his run for the Presidency as an Independent. I'm hoping he has Secret Service protection... and that any vehicle he rides is safe to use...
Or karma
@robertpolityka8464 If I remember correctly, he was refused secret service protection unfortunately.
@@sillydave5544 RFK Jr. was denied Secret Service protection. But Nikki Haley was granted Secret Service protection.
@@robertpolityka8464 One more reason Niki will never get my vote.
CORRECTION: PJ Kennedy was never Mayor of Boston, he was a member of the Massachusetts state legislation.
But John Fitzgerald, (Kennedy’s grandfather on his maternal side) was Mayor of Boston. I think that’s who is quoted
1:09 The Bushes: Am I a Joke to you?
Up till that point
Fire vid imma join your Patreon
3:18 Holy crap, which ones which? They literally look the exact same person!!
John Joseph kennedy
Sometimes siblings do look a like
Not really? JFK and Ted look quite alike in certain pictures, but Bobby and Joe Jr. have a very distinct look imo
@anthonyminimum : From left to right it's first Joseph Patrick Kennedy, Jr. : July 25, 1915 - August 12, 1944 , next is John Fitzgerald Kennedy : May 29, 1917 - November 22, 1963, next afterwards is Robert Francis Kennedy : November 20, 1925 - June 6, 1968, and finally Edward Moore Kennedy : February 22, 1932 - August 25, 2009
The von Erich’s of politics
Writing a book right now, should be out soon. It covers a fictional JFK Jr presidency in 2008.
What makes John Jr. qualified to be president (even if he lived)?
@@JackRabbit-us9uk depends on what you mean when you say “qualified.”
But he was a remarkable man. A trained lawyer, skillful actor, a pilot, was very physically fit, was smart without thinking he was the smartest in any room. But most importantly he was just a down to earth guy despite his fame. Dude could have done anything and his business was trying to bring politics to the people. He was trying to get ordinary citizens involved in politics. And he truly believed in his father’s new frontier. The idea of public service, of people building a better country.
And let’s face facts, he was a good looking well spoken guy who was our country’s “prince.” I’m pretty sure that’s all he needed.
Where can we read
And now, we have Senator John N. Kennedy, Republican from Louisiana...and, of course, RFK Jr. running for President. 😉🇺🇲
John Kennedy of Louisiana is NOT related to the Massachusetts Kennedys.
@@JackRabbit-us9uk Yes, we know that. Thank you! 👌
and a new tv show based on the movie TED, set in Boston..........................Ill see myself out
@@JackRabbit-us9ukhas he ever made a joke about being named John Kennedy? Or even a backstory? It would be interesting for sure
Joe Sr. . . The white Joe Jackson! But in all seriousness he really was a monster!
He literally had sex with his son’s girlfriends. He wasn’t just a monster, he was also a degenerate.
When I first saw this comment, I had actually just been listening to someone talk about Joe Jackson and was thinking of some of the similarities!
The father of Micheal Jackson right? Funny I thought the same thing!
Interesting subject but could have said so much more.
Missed the Bush’s as a father son pair of presidents
He meant before jfk was president.
It's amazing how many people overlook the obvious corruption of the Kennedy family just because they suffered misfortunes and assassinations
Compared to the corruption of most other politicians they pale in comparison. And of course you make this asinine comment and neglect to mention their lofty and noble goals and ambitions. You are nothing more than an amoeba.
I agree, I never really realized that the Kennedy family was a rich and powerful family with a lot of connections. The kind we'd be wary of and hate otherwise
@@prettyshinyspaghetti8332 It makes sense when you look at the family patriarch.. Joe Kennedy one of the most shady figures in U.S. history a lot of people don't know about
Ted Kennedy was a thorn in President Carter's side, and with Carter's sagging popularity in 1980, Kennedy nearly took the nomination from him. They put their differences aside temporarily when Carter helped dedicate the JFK Presidential Library in 1979. But the poor economy, the Iran hostage crisis, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the oil crisis nearly propelled Ted Kennedy to the 1980 Democratic nomination; however, rules fights went in Carter's favor at the Convention in New York City, thus securing the nomination for Carter. All of this, plus Ronald Reagan's popularity, resulted in a huge defeat for Jimmy Carter on Nov. 4, 1980.
Whoever did it, whoever had a say, destroyed that family. It’s so fkn sad. I’m constantly worried they’ll snuff out RFKjr as well
He may end up like JFK, Jr. But at this point I honestly doubt it
@prettyshinyspaghetti8332
Unfortunately, I disagree.
RFK Jr. applied for Secret Service protection, but was denied. However, Former Governor Nikki Haley also applied for Secret Service protection.
I understand that there are only so many people, that the Secret Service can protect.
In the same breath, I like to know what criteria has to be met, in order to get Secret Service Protection??
It's fascinating how much the Kennedy's were able to be a part of the culture of America. I'm not sure how good Robert's presidency would've been due to how much tension there was during the time, his hands likely would've been in a bind from being able to achieve in a similar to what John wanted.
True, but that was the whole point of their campaigns, wasn’t it? To not be bound and gagged by the establishment and unelected elites? I feel as though this family has been snuffed out for a reason.
Men who served much longer such as William McKinley and Grover Cleveland have almost no place in the broad cultural memory, yet Kennedy does despite having served less than three years. Even Lyndon Johnson, who served over five years, and was quite a larger-than-life character (in his personality and presence) isn't nearly as well-known as Kennedy.
Wow! 36? When Ted was 36 he looked 56
By 1968 he had lost 4 siblings, 2 because of plane crashes and 2 because of assassinations. Bobby had 10 kids that Teddy needed to take care of, plus JFK Jr and Caroline.
Basically the Kennedy curse
I think it would be an interesting video to speculate on the country’s direction if this did occur. They all seem pretty similar on the issues. It would be crazy to think about possibly 24 years of near similar policy’s put forth by the brothers.
And now there's RFK jr
Bobby was by far the smartest of the boys and his compassionate heart has made him the quintessential liberal icon. He would have done great things.
Ted took a wrong turn somewhere. He plunged into a dark path. His ambitions sank. He ran out of breath. He murdered his secretary.
Mary Jo wasnt his secretary. She was a staffer on Bobby's presidential campaign. Im not saying he was a saint, but 4 of his siblings died before he was 40 and he suddenly had to be the patriarch. I probably would have started drinking too. He did a lot of good in the Senate. He saved us from Robert Bork, he created Obama care too.
His secretary died in a car crash and he didn't help her. Drove the car i to a lake by mistake iirc. He could've very well been president had that not happened.
why no mention of the Bushes George H.W. and George W. ?
When you mentioned family pairs in the White House, You forgot George H. W. Bush and his son George W. Bush and although not that close and can be considered a strech, cousins Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin D. Roosevelt
I believe he was talking about familial relations up to that point for the Kennedys! But yes, you have a point about the Roosevelts.
But where is terry kennedy did he become president or did he changed his last name to labonte???
My dad worked in Saudi Arabia into metro system. And in Qatar helping to put in Rail System especially for the World Cup.
Also George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush
In the alternate history novel "Fatherland" in which Hitler wins WWII, President Kennedy visits Germany to celebrate the still alive Hitler's 75th birthday... the President Kennedy is, however Joseph P. Kennedy the father....
And now we have another Kennedy in 2024
And in the end, his cousin comes closest 💀
What about teddy and FDR? They were related
Ted was the only one not murdered 🫣
This in news: Kennedy brothers happiest men alive when moving to their own homes
I didn’t know jfk had brothers other than rfk.
I always enjoying reading comments like this. I think there are some people too who only knew JFK and Ted but not RFK, because Ted was around and politically active in the 21st Century. I doubt many people know who Joe Jr was at all.
Ted Kennedy made it to the Democratic National Convention in 1980 trying to unseat Jimmy Carter. However, the party wouldn’t overturn certain rules to give Kennedy his nomination. Although, he suspended his candidacy, he did get votes against Carter. This caused Carter to lose votes and Carter became the first incumbent president to lose multiple states he had won in the previous presidential election. Reagan might not have won if it weren’t for Kennedy’s involvement
That election was so 1 sided it's hard to imagine that being realistic
First incumbent to lose multiple states he had previously won? You mean in the primaries or in the general? The nationwide primary was still fairly new by 1980, so that stat isn’t that big considering the sample size. Numerous incumbents have lost states even in successful re-election bids, like FDR in ‘40 and ‘44 and Wilson in 1916
@@metroidnerd9001 I believe the article I read refers to primaries. Not sure if he got any votes in the general election. I looked into it and there’s no info on how many votes Kennedy got, if any, on Election Day
Back when the democratic party used Superdelegates to balance or even outweigh the will of the people
@@donkraemer50 are you implying that the Democrats did something differently than Republicans? I don’t know too many points in American political history, where one party had that much of an advantage in the electoral process than the other.
Certain types of jobs should not be handed off to members of a family, as if it were an inheritance. I would include offices such as a dentist, a lawyer, a neurosurgeon, a general, and elective office (particularly the Presidency).
Each person should be judged on his or her own merit. Family ties can be both a positive and negative.
RFK Jr's Presidential Run is getting positive media attention because he is a member of the Kennedy Dynasty. He might not be seen as a serious candidate, except for name recognition.
However, if George P. Bush ever ran for President, he might recieve greater scrutiny from the press based on the fact that he is the son and grandson of Republican Presidents. 🎉
I think it’s because the Bushes aren’t exactly recognized as great leaders, both left and right. If it were the descendant of Reagan or Lincoln, they’d definitely get more positive traction!
It's an interesting world to think about, the one where the Kennedys all survived and all had successful terms as president.
Joe Jr. was born in 1915, JFK in 1917, RFK in 1925, and Ted in 1932. You have to be 35 years old to be Vice President or President. This means the first elections they'd be old enough to be either Vice President or President in were 1952 (1950), 1952 (1952), 1964 (1960), and 1968 (1967), respectively.
If a Kennedy brother runs as soon as eligible, and wins every election, the timeline would look like this:
Joe Jr. Presidency: 1952-1960
JFK Presidency: 1960-1968
RFK Presidency: 1968-1976
Ted Presidency: 1976-1984
As noted in the video, this would be a span of 32 years, covering the entirety of the 60's and the 70's. This would replace the presidencies of Eisenhower, L. B. Johnson, Nixon, Ford, and Carter, as well as partially replacing the presidency of Reagan.
Not only that, but every brother could serve as Vice President to the next oldest, except for the 1960-1964 term, since RFK's birthday is November 20th, after Election Day.
I wonder what would happen to them afterwards in this timeline? Here's some thoughts of mine.
Joe Jr. I only know of in the military; I know nothing about who he was as a person, but assuming he enjoyed being in the military, I imagine he would serve as President, and then might be appointed Secretary of Defense, or otherwise take an active role in the armed forces. Did the Joint Chiefs of Staff exist at that time?
JFK would not serve as Joe Jr.'s Vice President, but would instead serve in Congress, as he did in history. After his presidency, I imagine he'd become a sort of head of the family, devoting his time to making the life of the Kennedy family better in the private realm.
RFK would be the first to serve as Vice President to his brother, replacing Johnson in 1964. He was a lawyer, and, in this scenario, would likely be appointed to the Supreme Court after his presidency. Assuming Earl Warren still becomes Chief Justice in 1953, and still retires in 1969, feeling safe that the Dems will appoint his successor, RFK himself would appoint the next Chief Justice. In the real world, this was Warren Burger, who was appointed by Nixon and was Chief Justice from 1969-1986. In 1986, RFK would be 61. This is close to the age that both Warren and Burger were appointed Chief Justice, so I imagine that RFK would appoint the next Chief Justice, who would then retire at some point in the 80's, to be succeeded by RFK himself. Bonus points if Ted appoints his brother Chief Justice.
Ted would serve as RFK's Vice President for both terms, and relish in this role, after serving in Congress during the terms of Joe Jr. and JFK; he'd be old enough (25) to run for the House in 1957, and old enough to run for the Senate (30) in 1962. I imagine he'd win a seat in the house in 1958, retain it in 1960, and run to fill JFK's Senate seat in 1962, which he'd win, as he did in history. He'd serve in Congress and build a good reputation for himself, good enough that he'd be selected for Vice President in 1968. The Kennedy brothers ticket would be a novelty for voters; i.e. "They're brothers so they can work well together, vote for them". Ted would be an active Vice President, heavily involved in the Senate, so much so that he'd be unhappy to leave the role to run for President in 1976. He would do so anyways, and not terribly enjoy the Presidency, so much so that he'd run for Senate again in 1984, the last year of his Presidency. He'd win the election and serve in the Senate until his death, as in history.
This would completely alter the course of US political history. Without the Johnson and Nixon Presidencies, so much of the political landscape of the late 60's and 70's changes. Who would've been Joe Jr.'s Vice President? Who would've been Ted's? Would conservatism still rise during the late 60's and 70's? Would Reagan still get elected Governor of California in 1966? What would happen to Nixon and Johnson? Would Ted's Presidential aloofness enable Reagan to win in 1984?
This feels like an alternate history novel. Somebody should write that.
A nice video, I'm quite grateful for the thought it promoted within me. Thanks for reading.
Probably the greatest political family in american history. Good luck RFK Jr.
Who else was upset when he didn’t mention RFK Jr.
Well it’s about the Kennedy brothers
He was talking about Joe Kenndy Sr.'s kids, RFK Jr. is Bobby's son.
RFK jr lets goooooo!!!!!
Kerry and Ted tried to shake my mom's hand at some political event. They went to shake her hand but she put her hand behind her back. My mother always hated the Kennedys and Kerry. I hope Joe Sr. Rots in hell for what he did to his disabled daughter.
This is the first time I've ever heard of somebody having beef with the kennedys. Im kinda Surprised.
@@l.t.hennessy6307 the Kennedys just mad my familys been round longer in mass then them
@@jdcoolidge10 ah righteous. The Coolidge family has been around that long?
@l.t.hennessy6307 idk my 7th great great-grandfather is Paul Revere and i have family on the mayflower
Plus calvin coolidge and such
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People think of the Kennedys as America's great political dynasty, yet others have greater claim to that title. The Adams family of Massachusetts (starting with John Adams) actually should be considered our great political dynasty: Two members of the family became President, another became a famed diplomat, and later generations became renowned historians.
But still, the Kennedys have that magic name - and that legacy of having risen from the level of the powerless Irish immigrant that was the family's ancestor to the symbol of American success. We have always loved the story of the underdog making it in a vastly rigged system and taking it over.
Consider, however: Only one Kennedy became President, and, aside from Bobby, no other Kennedy reached the same height. Even today, there are Kennedys in public office (excluding John Kennedy of Louisiana, who is not directly related). But let's face it, none of the Kennedys, except maybe Teddy, had a lasting effect on American history. Jack Kennedy's record in Congress was abysmal - and, realistically, his record as President wasn't much better. Bobby got his seat in the Senate solely to strengthen an eventual run at the Presidency, and I can't even think of an achievement worthy of the perceived name by any other Kennedy family member. And Teddy got HIS Senatorial seat due to his family ties and only much later when it was clear that he would never be President did he really begin to establish a legacy as Senator. By the end of his life, Teddy probably had the greatest effect on American history by actual deeds and not just as a symbol of his brothers' martyrdom.
I’d say kennedy’s Apollo mission was pretty significant, perhaps not politically but in many other ways. Personally I don’t think lbj would’ve ever introduced the civil rights bill or cared for anti-segregation so it’s a good thing the Kennedys (Bobby was very involved) introduced it
If the kennedy dynasty succeeded, i could see it like this:
Joseph P Kennedy sr, 33th president, 1940 to 1948, aged 52 to aged 60
Dwight D Eisenhower, 34th president, 1948 to 1956, aged 58 to aged 62
Joe Kennedy jr, 35th president, 1956 to 1964, aged 41 to age 49
Richard Nixon, 36th president, 1964 to 1972, aged 51 to aged 59
John F Kennedy sr, 37th president, 1972 to 1980, aged 55 to aged 63
George h w bush sr, 38th president, 1980 to 1988, aged 56 to aged 64
Robert F Kennedy sr, 39th president, 1988 to 1996, aged 64 to 73
George W Bush jr, 40th president, 1996 to 2004, aged 50 to aged 58
Donald Trump, 41st president, 2004 to 2008, aged 58 to aged 62
John F Kennedy jr, 42nd president, 2008 to 2016, aged 48 to aged 56
Jeb Bush, 43rd president, 2016 to 2020, aged 63 to aged 68
Robert F Kennedy jr, 44th president, 2020 to 2028, aged 64 to aged 72
Ronald Desantis, 45th president, 2028 to 2036, aged 50 to aged 58
Patrick J Kennedy, 46th president, 2036 to 2044, aged 69 to aged 77
Vivek Ramaswamy, 47th president, 2044 to 2052, aged 58 to aged 66
Joe Kennedy III, 48th president, 2052 to 2060, aged 71 to aged 79
Mr beast, 49th president, 2060 to 2068, aged 62 to aged 70
If either Joe Kennedy Jr or sr were president in ww2 we wouldve sides with Germany. Weird stuff
Mr. Beast and Vivek 😂😂😂😂
RFK jr. 2024!!
My grandpa always said that the Kennedys were the Irish Mafia.
JFK's closest aides were literally called the "Irish Mafia." They were holdovers from his congressional campaigns in Massachusetts.
This just makes me hate the Kennedy family even more
Haters gonna hate
I always hated them
First
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