E.L.P.O. Barefoot Trimming Protocol

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  • Overview of the E.L.P.O. Barefoot Trimming protocol. This video will be helpful in preparing for the E.L.P.O. Certification as well as assisting hoof care professionals in barefoot trimming on a daily basis. We have a more extensive video with additional examples available at:
    • ELPO Barefoot Trimming...
    For more details visit: www.lamenessprevention.org

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  • @susanflowers6282
    @susanflowers6282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm so glad you don't dog out the whole inside of the hoof, like I've seen other's do. I've never understood why they would do that! Yours looks great!

    • @susanflowers6282
      @susanflowers6282 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate spell correct 😠 not DOG OUT! DIG OUT!

    • @nikki11111
      @nikki11111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can click the faint 3 circles at the right bottom corner of your screen and click “edit” you can change dog out to dig out, you’re welcome.

    • @susanflowers6282
      @susanflowers6282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the advice, but I'm watching this on my Kindle, not my P.C.

  • @1lesa242
    @1lesa242 ปีที่แล้ว

    You teach really well. Thank you

  • @monicavieira630
    @monicavieira630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank. You for the thorough explanation. ELPO more recent video with the 5 exemples is amazing but I understand why comments have been restricted 😂 Just wanted to thank you

  • @susancroft3734
    @susancroft3734 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much. You have helped me a lot....!!!

  • @DWhite-el4ih
    @DWhite-el4ih 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Believe it or not you can learn more from the amateurs in the comment section of a professional's video than the professional himself. Amazing.

    • @Remyrem888
      @Remyrem888 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100%😂

  • @sharonbatson634
    @sharonbatson634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I , like so many others who have commented, would also like to know what that great measuring tool is! A divider? I would also like to see the hoof from the farrier's perspective for once! Great video.

  • @sacredstallion9003
    @sacredstallion9003 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice explaining amd technical

  • @brianbelliveau5551
    @brianbelliveau5551 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done ✅

  • @valcurley5010
    @valcurley5010 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For the newly barefoot horse you must also relieve the quarter walls to prevent flaring and splitting, and encourage thicker wall growth. In longterm barefoot horse the quarters must always be relieved to prevent thinning and cracking of the quarter wall.

  • @kalenarandall6322
    @kalenarandall6322 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Steve, what is the compass type tool you are using? Thank you.

  • @dawnatishauser4223
    @dawnatishauser4223 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well that explains why most horses have long toes and no heels.

  • @aussiegrace
    @aussiegrace 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would love to learn how to do my own horses feet. Five of them. Farrier I have had twice is totally crap for the price he charges. This is how I want to do them.

  • @Phoenixspin
    @Phoenixspin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Does this guy also work on humans? I need some nail work.

  • @vikramsinghrajawat729
    @vikramsinghrajawat729 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super sr👌👌👌👌👍

  • @michaelodonnell4119
    @michaelodonnell4119 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys just don't get it, horseshoeing is instinct not mapping, like I said , I have fixed alot of elpo horses!

  • @MrDziurkacz
    @MrDziurkacz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is very impressive! Could you please tell me how the device which you use for hoof measurement is called? Looks like very useful tool!

    • @hahnsm
      @hahnsm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I know this is 8 months late but here ya go! www.jhforge.com/hoofeval/hoofeval.php Lots of the ELPO guys use these

    • @angelapierred6461
      @angelapierred6461 ปีที่แล้ว

      A divider compass?

  • @RT1407-e8l
    @RT1407-e8l 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s amazing how horses stand patiently while you do their hoofs.
    They must realise their getting a nice pedicure and leave you to get on with it.

    • @rachaelbrown7771
      @rachaelbrown7771 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometimes they don't...my daughter n law has a mare that absolutely freaks out when you try to do her feet. I think she came from an abuse situation before my daughter n law got her. She also hasn't been consistently desensitized to it.

  • @wadeIrvingattwood01
    @wadeIrvingattwood01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's a nice dry foot.
    Here in New Zealand hooves never get this harsh and firm.
    Always so soft and moist 😕

  • @lilliannolan725
    @lilliannolan725 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Didn't leave much of a heel at all did you?

  • @susanflowers6282
    @susanflowers6282 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you saying you do this MAPPING with each and every hoof? If so, sorry but that's crazy!

  • @heathermaich8966
    @heathermaich8966 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great system. from the side view at the end it looks like the quarters are also weight bearing,can you clarify please

  • @clintburris5520
    @clintburris5520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you measure the hoof angle?

  • @kodrannall7929
    @kodrannall7929 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    is it just me, or does it look underrun?

  • @Himothy474
    @Himothy474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He learned on the internet

  • @charlenegibbons8616
    @charlenegibbons8616 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please give that horse some treats. He was holy patient!

    • @iliveinyourcloset6287
      @iliveinyourcloset6287 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charlene Gibbons god no, make your horse extremely spoiled and probably get bad habits, also make him pushy.

    • @pawsforeva4065
      @pawsforeva4065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is

  • @AMQTRHORSE
    @AMQTRHORSE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a list of certified barefoot trimmers somewhere? Vermont

    • @LamenessPreventionOrg
      @LamenessPreventionOrg  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a hoof care provider search option in the support area of www.lamenessprevention.org

  • @bearriverhorsefarm
    @bearriverhorsefarm 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job!

  • @artemisiagentileschi2400
    @artemisiagentileschi2400 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the rule of thumb? Purpose of placing your thumb under the rasp?

    • @yourbarista4154
      @yourbarista4154 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Artemisia Gentileschi that was for the angle of the breakover I believe.

  • @hellboy700r
    @hellboy700r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Easy to learn a book by heart but being a good farrier is a total different reality... good map out but not too impressed by the trimmer

  • @Charlotte-wv1dl
    @Charlotte-wv1dl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:30 I swear to god he said “find my nipple first”

  • @l.d.b.r5141
    @l.d.b.r5141 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Orange Card is only available for those who are doing the certification. Or open to the public

    • @alexortizz
      @alexortizz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know this is 10 months later but if you search it up there is a pdf with it that you can print out or just read

    • @l.d.b.r5141
      @l.d.b.r5141 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexortizz you don't say yeah well go check it out thanks.

    • @l.d.b.r5141
      @l.d.b.r5141 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexortizz hey I'm looking for it but I'm having hell right now if you could help me out?

  • @fightfordesires
    @fightfordesires 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is he using a spoon to trim the frog or

  • @ABDR4
    @ABDR4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Now that I’ve been trimming my own horses for several years, I understand better why the ELPO farrier I used to use just made my horses worse. Those heels are way too low, and it looked like he lowered the low one even more than the high one. Looking at the foot on the ground, I’d suspect it was trimmed to have a NPA. Everything about that hoof looks like the heels hurt. The frogs are weak and the hoof is contracted. Not prioritizing a biomechanically correct heel first landing is why the toes keep going forward. Flattening the toe just drives the walls outward, weakening the whole structure of the hoof. Thinning the frog also creates discomfort.
    This is all just an overly complicated approach that ignores what the hoof is trying to say. If I was trimming, I would’ve just cleaned up the frog, addressed any heel imbalance and then beveled the wall on the bottom. If you learn to read the hoof and understand the biomechanics, it’s amazing how quickly the hoof can transform.

    • @bmc06239
      @bmc06239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you missed the point...they are starting with a severely contracted heel with an almost correct toe length. This distortion is very difficult to reverse. The palmer angle for P3 was not trimmed negative, I would guess it finished at about 5 degrees. I think ELPO's approach to mapping has merit and is useful for the beginner, as well as the experienced trimmer.
      That being said where they go wrong is at some point (when the heels are correct palmer) the bars will not terminate at the widest part of the hoof, but instead point to the apex of the frog. If your ELPO trimmer failed your horse it is because he did not understand this. Most of the first ELPO farriers where trained with "natural balance" shoes. While this shoe does a great job reversing long toe it must be transitioned out of to avoid or reverse contracted heels. Sadly lack of this knowledge often leaves a hoof that looks exactly like the one in the video.
      Still I don't think it's the farrier's fault, most have a misunderstanding of hoof-fall and what is required to obtain a correct hoof-fall. This is why I developed a training regiment that teaches the horse to move correctly...I call it "Barefoot Movement Therapy"...you can learn more by emailing me at...bmc06239@yahoo.com...bruce

    • @yourbarista4154
      @yourbarista4154 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruce I just sent you an email.

    • @yueqian12
      @yueqian12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think so

    • @yueqian12
      @yueqian12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      abdr4 is right

    • @Nik-gc9vl
      @Nik-gc9vl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never used a farrier that was certified in the trimming style used in this video, but I did have one that consistently lamed my horse after every trim and reset of her shoes. To the point at the last time she was trimmed by that professional I had to give my mare a week off along with packing her feet. I was already delving into the hoof world and seeking out education on feet in general, and I quickly realized the function of my horses feet was so horribly compromised that I couldn't wait any longer to get the shoes off to start healing her. Long story short we are over 2yrs into her barefoot journey and she's been the most consistently sound now especially after trims the entire 12yrs I've owned her. I made some mistakes like anyone but am proud to say no 'professional' has touched her in the entire 2 yrs I've taken over and she's consistently only gotten sounder.
      Which also brought me to the comment section after seeing the technique and slightly cringing over the amount of heel height taken in proportion to toe and quarter height. Granted this horse looks like the shoes were literally just taken off, and whoever had been trimming and shoeing had no agenda to take the toe back. So, the horse doesn't have much of that natural concavity and thickening of the frog & digital cushion you'd want to see in a healthy functional hoof that would lend to the appearance of the foots natural arch with the quarters slightly raised from the ground. But, since this horse is fresh out of metal rim shoes and not trimmed for appropriate leverage reduction at the toe I'm not sure I would've taken much more toe than the trimmer did; As backing the toe does take quite a bit of time so the internal structures can start to adjust. But, I agree that all the measuring for a mediocre trim was too complicated and didn't really take into account what the structures are saying. It's pretty expected for a freshly barefoot hoof to change a fair amount in the first few weeks, and allowing the natural exfoliation to resume really should be one of the aspects at the forefront of the trimmers mind when doing the first setup trim especially if the horse is resuming work immediately. As soon as he started to hit that functional material aka the solid shavings of white line and a bit of sole around the bars had me cocking my head since he'd just mentioned not taking away functional material is important. Since to many podiatrists and trimmers know that it doesn't require getting to "waxy" material for it to be functional; That any material that isn't ready to crumble or flake away with minimal coaxing generally shouldn't be removed.

  • @tinkerbell4482
    @tinkerbell4482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You need to sharpen your tools. You shouldn’t be pulling it that hard on the frog. Your just hacking into it rather then slicing and shaping it

  • @jennymason9509
    @jennymason9509 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need some help asap these draft horses need help badly

  • @kathyannegilmartin3187
    @kathyannegilmartin3187 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You rasped the heel down 😟.

  • @joearagon3454
    @joearagon3454 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    (?) If I trim the frog down flat, too much, how will that affect the health of the hoof? Horse is young and healthy not working.

    • @Bendidormweirdos
      @Bendidormweirdos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you trim the frog down to much your taking away the natural pressure points of the foot away the frog takes about 50% of the weight

  • @adamsnyman2995
    @adamsnyman2995 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Sharpen your frog knife dude! Why you hacking away at the frog?? It must be a smooth clean cut

    • @callystanova196
      @callystanova196 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      D Billycheck That blade is literally used most often to trim the frog on a horse...

  • @kathrinlarsson4164
    @kathrinlarsson4164 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Why did you put the heel so low? I learned that its not good for the foot.

    • @TheLindahar
      @TheLindahar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You are correct. with each trim they will trim the heel out more and more. While the toe just get's longer and higher. This trim is not good.

    • @cualquiercosa5201
      @cualquiercosa5201 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Linda Harris, i think its actually the opposite effect, as the part of the hoof thats going to grows more, is the most stimulated one.. So if you rocker the toe, you decrease the stimulation so it doesn't grow that much.. That's what I understand.. Isn't it like that?
      Excuse my english, i speak spanish

  • @Shewolfen
    @Shewolfen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like that you didn't over trim the frog and cleaned up the bars and also left sole around the apex of the frog but to me the angles look wrong and way too much toe. it doesn't match the pastern. too much leverage on that toe wall and you are headed for laminitis !

  • @pacobarr9710
    @pacobarr9710 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    fail to see the reason to rasp the outside of the wall, that is not the way to get rid of flare

  • @codyovnicek3736
    @codyovnicek3736 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most courses are located in Penrose, CO

  • @marshapicken8229
    @marshapicken8229 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the toe is off center and the pillars are long...you also cause under run heels when you trim the heels out...this is not a very good trim

  • @jerseycowboy1
    @jerseycowboy1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need to become a hoof engineer before you trim a hoof! Wonder if that is an old practice from the 1800s

  • @slowedhits2506
    @slowedhits2506 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mexicans love horses.

    • @yourbarista4154
      @yourbarista4154 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Slowed Hits they also love tacos.

  • @thomaskondas2799
    @thomaskondas2799 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Too much time wasted drawing lines. Heels should be higher if going barefoot.

  • @apontefamily8236
    @apontefamily8236 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    More like the A.L.P.O dog food trimming protocol
    " now that I killed the frog with a dull rusty knife I'm going draw a pretty picture and then rasp heel away and ignore the toe

    • @yourbarista4154
      @yourbarista4154 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aponte Family he explained his rationale for the toe, what would you say he should’ve done differently?

    • @yourbarista4154
      @yourbarista4154 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      D Billycheck I appreciate that. I’m new to this and I thought the frog cutting was fine myself so thanks for the feedback.

  • @lainahiller2527
    @lainahiller2527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like live sole is being removed.

  • @lauralauren6432
    @lauralauren6432 ปีที่แล้ว

    Low heel=Long toe. This is going to be Worse as the weeks pass. If it had been a hind hoof it would maybe have been ok. Not front feet.

  • @scrapenbass493
    @scrapenbass493 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brokeback mountain

  • @torrescesar71
    @torrescesar71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need better tools

  • @l.d.b.r5141
    @l.d.b.r5141 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the stages of a soul is flaky overgrown, Chucky barefoot, waxie sore feet,

  • @ELNS97
    @ELNS97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “Now that I’ve exfoliated this frog”
    You mean ripped at it with a butter knife leaving gashed up?

  • @kristinhladysh3540
    @kristinhladysh3540 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    MUSTANG ROLL?! Not just for the toe!

  • @dianetoeniskoetter4973
    @dianetoeniskoetter4973 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    too flat for a horse just out of shoes. will make the horse sore for sure

  • @lauralauren6432
    @lauralauren6432 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now a Lot of Women Will Try this at home. Bad idea.

    • @cagey1415
      @cagey1415 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not the women! 😂

  • @Open2OpenUT
    @Open2OpenUT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Terrible job OMG! Try sharpening your tools mate and you might get better results, somehow I doubt it as he’s just not good at the practical work.

  • @michaelodonnell4119
    @michaelodonnell4119 ปีที่แล้ว

    I spent a
    Lot of time fixing up your guys shoeing and trimming, ido the same concept but have a better instinct, you guys don't, mapping a foot is stupid, if you have to do that you have no instinct for shoeing and trimming

  • @tltsw
    @tltsw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First off sharpen your tools brother, you should hack his frog like that. That knife should slice through that frog easy. FYI give horses a break