AKA the stream where Borderwise considers a lot of ships, a few rules, and some of his life choices. Timestamps for individual reviews: 5:20 Hel heavy battlecarrier by TacticalSpaghetti (rejected but re-reviewed later) 8:10 Archimedes aviation cruiser by 3dwrecker (accepted) 18:10 Hellbringer SSGN by 3dwrecker (rejected) 22:40 Office building by c44473 (rejected) 27:05 Repulse battlecruiser by SurrealTheDepthian (accepted) 47:25 Condor airship by c44473 (accepted) 1:07:25 AWOL frigate by shawnreed343 (rejected) 1:17:00 Hecht cargo vessel by TacticalSpaghetti (accepted) 1:27:40 Rylanor cruiser carrier by printedwrex (accepted) 1:38:10 Kentriodon hydrofoil by Egelpom (accepted) 1:42:50 Lamplight helicarrier by Eliaval (rejected) 1:45:30 Narwhal helicarrier by c44473 (accepted) 1:49:30 Forward Operating Helicopter Point by Egelpom (accepted) 1:52:20 Clownfish SSK by 3dwrecker (rejected) 1:54:00 Formidable carrier by SurrealTheDepthian (rejected) 2:00:10 Ignis Tempestus destroyer by printedwrex (accepted) 2:04:35 Orca cruiser carrier by c44473 (accepted) 2:13:00 J-47 C by drizzit45 (rejected) 2:13:40 Penguin aerosubmarine squadron by Glory (rejected) 2:19:15 Gungnir hydrofoil by TacticalSpaghetti (rejected) 2:20:45 Malum Caedo frigate by printedwrex (accepted) 2:24:40 Catfish submarine by c44473 (accepted) 2:29:10 Columbidae torpedo bomber by c44473 (accepted) 2:37:25 Finch jet fighter by c44473 (accepted) 2:45:20 Hel carrier by TacticalSpaghetti (re-reviewed and re-rejected)
US in early coldwar had ASW and radar picket blimps, one rigid airship. US pre-wwii had rigid airship aircraft carrier, 1950s did experiments with bombers carrying fighters. Late cold war there was never built proposal for airliner based flying aircraft carrier with mini fighters. Soviets had a over sized 6 rotor helicopter proposal that could carrier 2 fighter jets or 6 SA-2 missiles, pretty close to propeller based FtD airship IRL. Coldwar had some weird stuff...
For the heli fob, those aren't sandbags, they are hesco barriers. Which is very accurate for a fob, we still used them for "walls" in iraq and Afghanistan. Definitely give that creator credit for the attention to detail and accuracy.
Ah the Repulse was my first decent ship since playing the game. It beat a lot of my older creations but quickly got outdated as I relearned a lot. The hull was based around passive floatation to carry thick heavy armor around all of its turrets. The laser structure was borrowed from another craft I made for Amphitaswa(but slots were taken) that beat her handly with 100k less materials. She was def gonna be updated at some point(and she did for her secondary guns)
Borderwise... thinking about this critically; the idea of replacing previous craft with newer better versions has both merits and flaws. Going through my thoughts on it- On the upside, you *do* get more freedom in accepting craft 'for now' as 'good enough' until better comes along. On the downside, people who have a bp that gets replaced might just straight up feel bad. It's also likely important to not just accept new bps based on combat ability... or you'll get fast power creep. Aesthetics, I can see; accepting prettier craft just seems a good idea. But it would be unfortunate for bps already accepted to get kicked out because they're no longer pretty enough. Here's my consideration for this: If a new bp is straight up better than another bp in the same 'slot'... don't kick out the old bp... but accept the new one. Create a new 'temporary' slot of the same type; until the bp slots for the CC are filled. Then, have a major editing and testing phase where the actual difficulty of the bps gets tested at length and sorted. This doesn't need to be just a you thing; the entire community can get involved where this is concerned as long as someone can track and sort through reported data. Bps could get bumped up or down in difficulty by how they actually function, and designs can be weeded out during this editing. However! Because this would open floodgates, just add an additional rule- only allow people to build for open slots... and only make the temp slot if a thing is better as a potential replacement for something else rather than the open slot. Like if something tries for an open godly slot and loses to an already existing expert slot... you could accept the new thing as the hard and bump the previous up to godly, and such. Or put them both at hard with one being a 'temporary' slot. Doing this is actually going to help fill in slots faster, because difficulties can be bumped and it's just about there being enough of a bp role rather than difficulty (which is nevertheless still useful as a tool for people building for open slots).
Hellbringer has been fixed and updated and is ready to be resubmitted! Edit: I'll get on to fixing the Archimedes, but it should be noted that I was originally going to have a small jet on there and didn't really think to change the runway to have helipad paint... Also didn't occur to be to angle the superstructure guns til you said that. 😅
"What thing in real life had both jets and props" Amusingly I just found out about it yesterday but the US navy marine landing craft used to operate a fighter dive bomber, early cold war, called the "fireball" . . . like seriously the designers called it "fireball" and funnily enough of it's many MANY problems turning into a fireball isn't one of them.
In fact a number of the rejected ships would have fit quite nicely into the Amphitaswa Alliance with a few minor tweaks. I hope I haven't created just that extra competition for myself...
hello BorderWise, i am happy to see that you accepted the Kentriodon (the hydrofoil) and the Forward Operating Helicopter Point, the Kentriodon needs a lot of fixing (i hadn't uploaded the correct one since it doesn't have a turret cap) also i will be adding the missle defance soon (easily before the nest SR stream), also the Forward Operating Helicopter Point has some more details and i might make a similar building with bigger helicopters and maybe a second gun, and a big hydrofoil will be build within time. quick question btw, is the "rule" you mentioned about SR hydrofoils not being allowed to use custom jets, is that something you want to add to the rules, or do you want to keep them as a hidden/support propulsion so it looks like it could work with cold war like craft sorry for making you read this, have a good one mate
@@BorderWise12 Did it "Sewowal Republic Mantis Shark A6" is the name of the sub has a steel striders aesthetic, but has no sub vehicle (why a sub need a sub vehicle?)
Having a subvehicle as a sort of spotter or other "combined arms" thing is just what Sewowal does. Smaller craft (fighter jets for example) can spawn as a squadron instead of having a different subvehicle. Yours looks to be a bit too big for that, though. If you're not inclined to make one of your own, Henry Wong has a collection of small drones on the workshop that are free for anyone to use on Sewowal craft.
just wanna ask for the lamplight was the problem that the pac sub didn't fit aesthetic or that it just shouldn't have subs at all? like the sub in the moonpool should go too? just wanting to be clear
@@BorderWise12 So the pac wasn't clipping its the show where it will be mode the pac ist on but its the uh. chalkboard thing.. but it wont turn off for some reason. but uh i will try to fix it. seems like orang wanted to help deco and design it so hopefully it will look good next time
I like that you're telling people "it's not a race" in the middle of telling someone you are rejecting their application because they didn't do it fast enough and the position has already been filled, that sounds an awful lot like a race hahaha. Edit: "I'm tempted to reject this helicopter carrier because it should have landing pads." look up a real helicopter carrier, they look exactly like a regular aircraft carrier but smaller. Helicopters are parked with their rotors folded back over the body, so they can be stored right next to each other; then they get rolled/taxied onto the runway where their blades are spread out for takeoff. If they each had an individual pad you'd only be able to carry 1/5 the aircraft. If helicopter carriers don't have internal hangers the "runway" is usual split in half with, say the port side, being parking and the starboard side being for take offs and landings. If he wants to turn it into "landing pad" he could just turn the front to back divider 90 degrees, into dividers for pads that way. Edit 2: Ok an hour later you removed the race rule by allowing ship replacement. I'm sure you didn't come to regret that decision.
AKA the stream where Borderwise considers a lot of ships, a few rules, and some of his life choices.
Timestamps for individual reviews:
5:20 Hel heavy battlecarrier by TacticalSpaghetti (rejected but re-reviewed later)
8:10 Archimedes aviation cruiser by 3dwrecker (accepted)
18:10 Hellbringer SSGN by 3dwrecker (rejected)
22:40 Office building by c44473 (rejected)
27:05 Repulse battlecruiser by SurrealTheDepthian (accepted)
47:25 Condor airship by c44473 (accepted)
1:07:25 AWOL frigate by shawnreed343 (rejected)
1:17:00 Hecht cargo vessel by TacticalSpaghetti (accepted)
1:27:40 Rylanor cruiser carrier by printedwrex (accepted)
1:38:10 Kentriodon hydrofoil by Egelpom (accepted)
1:42:50 Lamplight helicarrier by Eliaval (rejected)
1:45:30 Narwhal helicarrier by c44473 (accepted)
1:49:30 Forward Operating Helicopter Point by Egelpom (accepted)
1:52:20 Clownfish SSK by 3dwrecker (rejected)
1:54:00 Formidable carrier by SurrealTheDepthian (rejected)
2:00:10 Ignis Tempestus destroyer by printedwrex (accepted)
2:04:35 Orca cruiser carrier by c44473 (accepted)
2:13:00 J-47 C by drizzit45 (rejected)
2:13:40 Penguin aerosubmarine squadron by Glory (rejected)
2:19:15 Gungnir hydrofoil by TacticalSpaghetti (rejected)
2:20:45 Malum Caedo frigate by printedwrex (accepted)
2:24:40 Catfish submarine by c44473 (accepted)
2:29:10 Columbidae torpedo bomber by c44473 (accepted)
2:37:25 Finch jet fighter by c44473 (accepted)
2:45:20 Hel carrier by TacticalSpaghetti (re-reviewed and re-rejected)
US in early coldwar had ASW and radar picket blimps, one rigid airship. US pre-wwii had rigid airship aircraft carrier, 1950s did experiments with bombers carrying fighters. Late cold war there was never built proposal for airliner based flying aircraft carrier with mini fighters. Soviets had a over sized 6 rotor helicopter proposal that could carrier 2 fighter jets or 6 SA-2 missiles, pretty close to propeller based FtD airship IRL. Coldwar had some weird stuff...
For the heli fob, those aren't sandbags, they are hesco barriers. Which is very accurate for a fob, we still used them for "walls" in iraq and Afghanistan. Definitely give that creator credit for the attention to detail and accuracy.
Ah the Repulse was my first decent ship since playing the game. It beat a lot of my older creations but quickly got outdated as I relearned a lot. The hull was based around passive floatation to carry thick heavy armor around all of its turrets. The laser structure was borrowed from another craft I made for Amphitaswa(but slots were taken) that beat her handly with 100k less materials. She was def gonna be updated at some point(and she did for her secondary guns)
Borderwise... thinking about this critically; the idea of replacing previous craft with newer better versions has both merits and flaws. Going through my thoughts on it-
On the upside, you *do* get more freedom in accepting craft 'for now' as 'good enough' until better comes along.
On the downside, people who have a bp that gets replaced might just straight up feel bad.
It's also likely important to not just accept new bps based on combat ability... or you'll get fast power creep. Aesthetics, I can see; accepting prettier craft just seems a good idea. But it would be unfortunate for bps already accepted to get kicked out because they're no longer pretty enough.
Here's my consideration for this: If a new bp is straight up better than another bp in the same 'slot'... don't kick out the old bp... but accept the new one. Create a new 'temporary' slot of the same type; until the bp slots for the CC are filled. Then, have a major editing and testing phase where the actual difficulty of the bps gets tested at length and sorted. This doesn't need to be just a you thing; the entire community can get involved where this is concerned as long as someone can track and sort through reported data. Bps could get bumped up or down in difficulty by how they actually function, and designs can be weeded out during this editing. However! Because this would open floodgates, just add an additional rule- only allow people to build for open slots... and only make the temp slot if a thing is better as a potential replacement for something else rather than the open slot. Like if something tries for an open godly slot and loses to an already existing expert slot... you could accept the new thing as the hard and bump the previous up to godly, and such. Or put them both at hard with one being a 'temporary' slot. Doing this is actually going to help fill in slots faster, because difficulties can be bumped and it's just about there being enough of a bp role rather than difficulty (which is nevertheless still useful as a tool for people building for open slots).
Hellbringer has been fixed and updated and is ready to be resubmitted!
Edit: I'll get on to fixing the Archimedes, but it should be noted that I was originally going to have a small jet on there and didn't really think to change the runway to have helipad paint... Also didn't occur to be to angle the superstructure guns til you said that. 😅
Front fins on missiles just look nice
"What thing in real life had both jets and props" Amusingly I just found out about it yesterday but the US navy marine landing craft used to operate a fighter dive bomber, early cold war, called the "fireball" . . . like seriously the designers called it "fireball" and funnily enough of it's many MANY problems turning into a fireball isn't one of them.
In fact a number of the rejected ships would have fit quite nicely into the Amphitaswa Alliance with a few minor tweaks.
I hope I haven't created just that extra competition for myself...
One problem with what you just said: the Amphiitaswa Alliance does not use ships. :D
@@BorderWise12
I mean some ships can be easily turned into heavy hovers, especially Titus (cause it's already almost hover).
hello BorderWise, i am happy to see that you accepted the Kentriodon (the hydrofoil) and the Forward Operating Helicopter Point, the Kentriodon needs a lot of fixing (i hadn't uploaded the correct one since it doesn't have a turret cap) also i will be adding the missle defance soon (easily before the nest SR stream), also the Forward Operating Helicopter Point has some more details and i might make a similar building with bigger helicopters and maybe a second gun, and a big hydrofoil will be build within time.
quick question btw, is the "rule" you mentioned about SR hydrofoils not being allowed to use custom jets, is that something you want to add to the rules, or do you want to keep them as a hidden/support propulsion so it looks like it could work with cold war like craft
sorry for making you read this,
have a good one mate
Cheers, good to know! I think perhaps no visible jets would be best, it has the most freedom while keeping the aesthetic.
It was originally designed to hunt down torpedo boats
12 days and only 20 comments 😢. Im here, borderwise, I see you. Much love from the comments
Hey Borderwise, Found recently my way back into FtD and built a Submarine i´m pretty proud of.
May i ask how to submit a design?
@@ineverexist666 For this CC? Share it on the workshop with the name of the faction it's for in the title. 👍
@@BorderWise12 Did it "Sewowal Republic Mantis Shark A6" is the name of the sub has a steel striders aesthetic, but has no sub vehicle (why a sub need a sub vehicle?)
Having a subvehicle as a sort of spotter or other "combined arms" thing is just what Sewowal does. Smaller craft (fighter jets for example) can spawn as a squadron instead of having a different subvehicle. Yours looks to be a bit too big for that, though.
If you're not inclined to make one of your own, Henry Wong has a collection of small drones on the workshop that are free for anyone to use on Sewowal craft.
just wanna ask for the lamplight was the problem that the pac sub didn't fit aesthetic or that it just shouldn't have subs at all? like the sub in the moonpool should go too? just wanting to be clear
The aesthetic was the problem, yes. Also that melee PAC clipping through has definitely got to go!
@@BorderWise12 So the pac wasn't clipping its the show where it will be mode the pac ist on but its the uh. chalkboard thing.. but it wont turn off for some reason.
but uh i will try to fix it. seems like orang wanted to help deco and design it so hopefully it will look good next time
I like that you're telling people "it's not a race" in the middle of telling someone you are rejecting their application because they didn't do it fast enough and the position has already been filled, that sounds an awful lot like a race hahaha.
Edit: "I'm tempted to reject this helicopter carrier because it should have landing pads." look up a real helicopter carrier, they look exactly like a regular aircraft carrier but smaller. Helicopters are parked with their rotors folded back over the body, so they can be stored right next to each other; then they get rolled/taxied onto the runway where their blades are spread out for takeoff. If they each had an individual pad you'd only be able to carry 1/5 the aircraft.
If helicopter carriers don't have internal hangers the "runway" is usual split in half with, say the port side, being parking and the starboard side being for take offs and landings. If he wants to turn it into "landing pad" he could just turn the front to back divider 90 degrees, into dividers for pads that way.
Edit 2: Ok an hour later you removed the race rule by allowing ship replacement. I'm sure you didn't come to regret that decision.
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