I would say the customer who ACTUALLY took their bronco home (And took delivery first) and spent time with it came up with the idea first and would seem more reputable 😱
I am thrilled with it honestly. We didn’t buy this for kids. But if someone is Bronco shopping and has kids, it’s something they might want to consider.
The first tailgate stop is so it won’t swing into a car parked behind you. If the car is right behind you, then you’ll have to be careful. The 90 degree stop is so it won’t swing out past the side if you are parallel parked, causing a pedestrian, biker, or another vehicle from being brick walled.
Definitely some valid points. Probably the one that would worry me the most is the shock bolt lower control arm design/location. You know that's gonna catch on something. Great video man!
Appreciate you watching! Yes I think the shock bolt is going to cause problems for a lot of people who actually take it offroad. Hopefully someone comes up with a solution.
They’re pretty sweet up close! Come check it out sometime when you’re in town. I know how you could get your hands on one but they’re way overpriced right now 😂
It was an informative video but some of the things you complain about to me don't really make sense in regards to just being Bronco specific. You ever try putting a baby Carrier that's facing reverse in a 2 door civic? You would have the same problem and as far as opening the driver's side door with the rear handle to get somebody in the back seat in the back seat I do it all-in-one motion, maybe yours is heavier because they are leather seats? I have clothe seats. Also I have people climb in the back through the passenger side because the seat opens up farther the steering wheel is not in the way. An the Badlands doesn't have sports mode because it's an armored vehicle. Badlands was my 1st choice but in all reality I'm not much of a rock crawling guy I prefer to go fast down the trails and that's why I went with the Wildtrak it's more or less the raptor of the bunch. With the Badlands you have a lot of protection underneath the whole chassie and at high speeds that stuff doesn't help in maneuverability it kind of hinders the movement of the vehicle that's why it doesn't have Sport mode.
I think you are correct. You can certainly do that on the Raptor..When you switch to Baja mode on Raptor it goes into 4wd but you can then turn the knob back to 2wd and you are in Baja in rwd. It’s what they make you use at Raptor Assault when you jump them so you can’t get up too much speed.
One other view of the 2-door... I have a 2009 Volvo C30 (basically the European Ford Focus wrapped in Volvo and with the Volvo engine) It's a 2-door hatch. I too was concerned with the car seats as my oldest was 3 at the time I got it and my youngest was just over a year. Oldest was in a regular car seat and the youngest was just transitioning to front facing. For about 2 years, it was a bit of a PIA. My oldest could soon buckle himself in, but the youngest took a bit to get it. Both kids learned pretty quick how to unbuckle, so it was really just getting in that was an issue. After those two years, the car has been great. Best of all? No door handles, lock buttons, power windows, or any other thing to play with in the back seat. Both kids are teens today and still love to ride in dad's car and are looking forward to when they will be driving it. For the few years that it was a small hassle, the decade plus of driving a smaller fun vehicle with the kids well protected was so worth it. Why not just pull the strut off the rear door? Strange how the bolt at the front shock mount is a problem, but the fact that the eye of the shock in the rear hangs low isn't. That front isn't going to break off. It will get deformed so that it will never unbolt. When the time comes, you cut it off and replace it. We've been doing that with U-bolts on Jeep axles since the 1940's. You will be getting a new top to replace that one. Ford has already made that promise to all 2021 deliveries. When the new one is put on - if the seam issue is still there, complain to the dealer. Yea, the Sport Mode loss seems strange. However, I've seen that if you use Baja and then manually put it back in 2H, you actually will get a BETTER on-road performance. The seat thing is just dumb. Maybe over time it will loosen up. And I hope people DO start to break those levers. Make Ford fix it. Inability to quickly access the back in an emergency should send flags to the NTSB. Does anyone remember how the seat moved in the original full size Bronco starting in '78? Only the passenger seat moved forward to access the back. You flipped a lever down near the back of the seat and the heavy spring lifted the entire seat up and into the dash with some force. Will love it when I can remove my Bronco from the code 99 hold it is on and actually get it built. Not going to do that until Ford can provide everything I want the way I want it.
I Think these are pretty valid concerns #1 Unprotected stem: Yes that was not a great idea Ford. #3 Uneven roof body: Such a guy thing to see right? lol but i'd chalk that up to new design / 1st version on and its a FORD. For the last #2 Baby seat & #4 Drive Settings: Yea but its bc of the model you selected Maybe & update for Sport mode coming soon? Thanks for the video helps me as i'm looking to get one soon!
The tailgate door was designed that way (with stop intervals) because it is a heavy door. I would much rather it this way rather than have it all loosy-goosy. Swinging freely.
Sport mode is the one I use most often myself. And my friend that just picked up a badlands was complaining about the same thing. 1st edition and BL is the only two that doesn’t have it.
Me too in my Raptor I love sport mode. Although I do love Baja mode offroad, so we'll see how that is in the Bronco. From what I understand other models that have sport mode don't have the Baja offroad mode. I could be wrong tho.
Someone in the aftermarket world really needs to capitalize on that front shock mount issue. Their placements of all the shock mounts, front and back, baffle me from a "design it to offroad" perspective.
So I'm not offroading so the bolts aren't a problem, no kids and hardly use the back seats in any vehicle so good there, the rear gate/door is specifically designed to open in the 3 positions(you can always take the shock off and it would be jeep style), and my outer banks has sport mode.
It's very weird they took away Sport mode but left it on Sasquatch equipped lower end trims. Great video, you can definitely have kids in the back but absolutely get a 4 door if it will be a daily.
For the trunk. It looks like the little piece that’s on screen doors as they open and close. It should be adjustable. I’m guessing its a little resistant because if you’re in a parking lot, if you swing it wide open you’re definitely hitting the car next to you lol
I drove the Bronco and many of them from stock to badlands in Texas at Bronco Rodeo. I think you need to go there and learn how all the tech is used correctly. I changed my order from Wild Track to Badlands with Sasquatch and i am happy that after the change to. Soft top I. Received my new Bronco within a couple months. I got a 4 DR for my dogs so not sure why young family would consider a 2dr having children. OH and the off reading with all the different models i drove had no issues with the bolts. You can’t compare a Jeep with a 6 inch lift and 30K worth of aftermarket parts to a stock model. My wife has a 2020 Rubicon and my Bronco can go anywhere the Jeep can.
You're right about the bolt and the non-level roof. That said, if you have kids and you're trying to cram them in the backseat, I have no idea why you purchased a 2-door model. Come to think of it, what advantages are there to a 2-door model in the first place?
The tailgate having 3 different stopping points is simple! Imagine being in a grocery store parking lot, and Imagine if that gate swings all the way with cars next to you🤷♂️
You dont have sport mode because you have the stablizer bar disconnect. I don't know if there is a vaild reason why but if there's rock crawl, no sport mode. Apparently you can't have them all.
Nice Bronco...congrats! Ty for the thorough review too! Im partial to the two door also. Is it true that rain channels right into the cab when the windows are down?
During my test drive, I experienced the same thing with point #4 - moving the driver seat fwd to reach the back. Not a big deal using two hands, but was used to being able to slide the seat fwd with just one hand. Interestingly enough, I was able to slide the passenger side seat fwd with one hand which makes me think it was my technique. I'm right handed and used my left hand to pull the driver seat lever (the one that eventually took two hands to move). With the passenger seat lever, I used just my right hand on the lever and was able to move the seat fwd. Also liked your point about the bolt sticking out too low and getting damaged by rocks. Would be nice to see the nut and bolt recessed.
That is exactly how most 2 door cars are. It might not be perfect but it’s pretty standard to use 2 hands to move the seat. And compared to my truck the bronco seat looks like it moves very easily!
Nice vehicles. But don’t ever call rain in Utah bad weather. The drought is horrendous. The boat ramp we used in 2019 for our PWC is now so far out of the water you’d kill your self falling off. Sucks.
its great to see you have a tesla also! I do as well (M3), but I also want a Bronco. The tesla is 4 weeks old and the Bronco is being delivered in a month. I ordered both at the same time and the tesla came first so I bought it, but I still also want to Bronco. Curious as to why you got both? I'm thinking of selling the Tesla for a number of reasons. The tesla gets much higher ratings on Consumer Reports so I'm torn because its not an everyday car IMO. I'm a family of one plus two dogs. I can see myself driving the Bronco much more on a daily basis. If you were single would you have/own both? Curious as to which one you enjoy driving more and if you could only do one which one would you choose and why? I've very torn! I work from home so gas is a non-factor. I'm afraid of high repair costs on the tesla if I ever were in an accident. Not to mention the CS issues (long repair wait times and over-charging for repairs) but I'm also scared eventually that the Bronco will be high to maintain. Thanks in advance for your opinions!
With regards the the lower shock mount bolts...I noticed with the Zone level kit install video they actually flip the bolt around after install to at least not have the threads hanging down. Not sure if an option without the small level kit but might be an option for you.
The wind noise is noticeable with the hard top, but honestly not enough to bother me. If you have music playing you don't even notice the wind noise. A soft top Jeep is definitely louder, and a hard top Jeep seems about the same to me.
If the front shock bolts are not stamped to the shocks then just remove insert them bolt head up through control arm. The bolt head would be on the bottom
The bolt in the lower control arm will never be a issue when you have that car.. You will never drive it that hard since you almost are hiding it until you can wrap it 🙈 It is a offroader, ment for use and abuse...
Thanks for watching! Not planned for baby seats, I've always wanted the 2 door over 4 door for looks. We just thought if we ever do take out the Bronco with the baby, it is a very inconvenient setup and anyone planning to get a Bronco might not consider that beforehand.
My Wrangler YJ was my daily for a lot of years when my girls were younger. I couldn't imagine that latch system on the new Bronco holding up to that kinda constant use. Tip. In summer when the roof comes off, placing the kids in the back from the outside becomes sooooo much easier lol.
Y’all, I think they did that tailgate thing on purpose so it wouldn’t just swing and hit something near the car. So you have to intentionally make it swing that far. It’s got catches.
Yes, and it makes it annoying to open. At least put the first stop at 90 degrees so you can open the trunk without it stopping halfway. It’s been really annoying every time we open it.
Awesome content. I do not recall hearing about your gripes on other YouTUbe channels, so it was nice hearing other perspectives. I am getting the 4-door wildtrak in the same color. So pumped but I'll probably see it in 2023 haha
I think your number four is something your sort of accustomed too with older models. I think with this they’re using the seat latch as just a release so you pull it and it releases then you grab the full seat to bring it forward. I don’t think they designed it to be held onto while being pulled forward.
That was my initial thought too, but the hydraulic has built in stops to prevent the gate from swinging open into something. I just wish it didn’t have a stop in the middle and opened all the way to 90 degrees first. That would be less annoying.
The door is for people who don't have kids. Or in my case it's just me and my 7 year old son so this thing is perfect except I don't like the lower control arm design but it's whatever things happen
COMPLETELY agree on lower control arm shock bolts. Poor design. Getting a 2dr when you have a child seat age child then you made a mistake. Get the 4dr. The rear gate opening has 3 "stops". That was intentional. Open enough to put something in or get something out: 90 degrees to open the hatch: full extension for camping and such. I have a 2dr hardtop and mine is not level on the front panels. No biggie for me, not OCD. Lol.
@@raptorsofinsta 2dr Badlands, Area51, Squatch, Lux. As close to yours as can be had for a non-1st Edition. Day 4 of ownership so still in honeymoon phase. Less than 200mi so far. Trying to get through the break in period of 1000mi correctly, change the oil and hit the trails!
Yeah… you really did get a lemon. You should go ahead and sell it to me just to avoid the headaches it would cause. It probably wouldn’t last long with all those horrendous defects, but I’ll throw you a few grand cash for her. She might be able to get me back and forth to college a few days a week (maybe). :)
Dude you lost me at the car seat. No one buys a 2 door for a family. If you do then you live with it. It’s a 2-door! My kids are teens and if I got a Bronco it would certainly be the 4 four. I don’t try to put kids in the trunk of my sports car. 😂
You must have missed the part where I said I didn't buy this for our family car, I've got other cars for that. When I got the Bronco I had a few people ask how a car seat would work in the 2 door, which is why I talk about it in this video.
If I had it I'd toss those seats and get 80s f150 seat redone. The base has a hinge and the whole seat folds and tilts forward. Alot softer than this new foam crap too. Add some old style polished 15 inch Mickey thompson wheels and arb style front bumper and it will be sharp ride.
Great question. No, the Bronco paint is excellent. Our Tesla paint isn't great. I have done PPF on all of my cars for 2 reasons. First is to protect the paint from scratches, especially when I go offroad in the Bronco and the Raptor. The Tesla has a full wrap because it's my wife's car and I don't want it to get rock chips or door dings etc. And the R8 is wrapped because I want the paint looking new. Another reason is I LOVE the look of Xpel Stealth and the satin finish you get over the factory paint. I've got another video talking about the benefits of Stealth PPF if you want to watch it.
The engine of the new Bronco is an ugly mess. Wires and hoses all over the place. Doesn’t even come with an engine cover. You should’ve shown the engine bay.
Life must be hard with an Audi, Raptor and Bronco in your garage. Do you have stairs in your home? Must be a laborious trip every day with all that burden pressing down your shoulders.
I know I am asking about two different categories, but I am confused between a Bronco and F150 Lariat , keeping in mind I also have a Wrangler Rubicon, so which one you recommend ? Thanks
They're two different cars for totally different purposes. The F150 would be great for towing, having a lot of bed space, and a larger cab. But I wouldn't take the F150 Lariat offroad, it's not meant for that. The Bronco is made for offroad adventure, rock crawling, etc. so it just depends on your needs.
It seems silly to complain about rear seat accessibility in your 4th vehicle which is a purchase you likely made 1. As an investment 2. As a weekend off-roader 3. Because it’s new and I want one. Did you complain about it in the Audi when you reviewed that?
They do fold flat, although they don't go flush with the trunk space. They're a few inches taller than the trunk space when folded down. I don't think they are entirely removable on the 2 door model.
If you have to put kids in car seats a two door like this is probably the wrong choice. Not the fault of the company. They make four door models. When we had small children we bought a mini van in the old days. It worked well for a young family. When we didn't have to put kids in car seats any more we no longer needed the van. You can't buy a motorcycle for your family of 3 and complain about it being poorly designed. A single guy I work with bought a 2 door Bronco and loves it.
@@raptorsofinsta I tried to make the change, but my bronco dealer said the factory doesn’t offer blacked out emblems. Is it model specific? Any help would be greatly appreciated
@@lamb-slayer1372 it could be specific to the first edition, because I’ve seen lower trims without the black emblem. I’m just not sure which models do/don’t have the black emblem.
For the rear facing child seat issue, have you tried to load up the baby from the tailgate? I flipped down the headrests in my Jeep to increase the baby-loading clearance over the back of the seat and am able to load up my daughter from the back. It looks like the headrests are removable in your Bronco and the clearance above seat seams comparable to my Jeep - may be worth a try.
It's a reference to if you wanted a family vehicle you should have got the four-door, let me personally I believe the two door looks a hell of a lot better
Personally the only thing out of these 5 that I think would bother me is the bolt sticking down under the shock. My 2dr, when it arrives, I’m doing a rear seat delete and installing Goosgear delete kit to make the rear area one large storage area. I don’t need the back seats for this vehicle. For the tailgate, um, join a gym.
Would still take the H3 over that piece. Now that I think of it. Ergonomics seem very similar aside from the new tech. Good job 👏 gm for doing it 20 years before ford.
An H3? 😂 let’s see those first came out in 2005 and the first Bronco came out in 1965. If we’re talking about who copied who, the answer is pretty obvious.
Do t want to picky but really man? The only thing I would say is valid is sport mode but for that you can turn to baha put it in 2H and same as sport. If you are off-roading place your tire on the higher obstacle should avoid any bolt rubbing. Chair and baby fit…get a 4 door
actually not sure about 2H. I own the Wildtrak and also it's the only Bronco that has Baja and sport together. When you put it in sport mode it actually drops down to 4A. Baja mode is designed to be in dirt or sand if you use it on the street you may regret it damage something. Baja mode locks your rear differential and does other things 4A Sport uses the transfer case for traction on slippage not the lockers
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I wonder who gave you this idea...
Came up with it all on my own! 😉
@@raptorsofinsta 👀👀👀
Yup, you were the first Benjamin! 🤟
@@raptorsofinsta Specially the tail gate. You two guys are the only ones annoyed by that.
I would say the customer who ACTUALLY took their bronco home
(And took delivery first) and spent time with it came up with the idea first and would seem more reputable 😱
I have a Bronco and I’m thrilled with it. Who buys a two door for kids ?
Your sport mode is your Baja mode.
I am thrilled with it honestly. We didn’t buy this for kids. But if someone is Bronco shopping and has kids, it’s something they might want to consider.
I did 😅 but it's not our only vehicle.
I thought sport mode was different than baja
Forscan…hehehe. Gives you all modes
facts..... FTK
The first tailgate stop is so it won’t swing into a car parked behind you. If the car is right behind you, then you’ll have to be careful. The 90 degree stop is so it won’t swing out past the side if you are parallel parked, causing a pedestrian, biker, or another vehicle from being brick walled.
Good points, thanks for letting me know! Looks like I'll have to get over it haha.
Agree this is awkward and I thought the one I was using had a defect. I’m getting out of a Toyota RAV4 with a swing gate that doesn’t do this.
I’m fairly sure that I’ve seen the wheel/tire combination weighs 87.5lbs so it isn’t surprising (to me) the tailgate is “heavy.”
Some have no issues opening the tailgate, what does that suggest to you? lol
@@thepavementendsnow1901 It implies the distinction between heavy and binding; guess you should get it checked. 🤷🏻♂️
First world problems dude! Enjoy your Bronco!
I’ll definitely enjoy it. Thanks for watching!
The bolt sticking through is a bad design
Maybe the rear door swing feels heavy because there is a 50lb wheel and tire mounted to it?
Possibly. But at first it doesn’t feel heavy, it gets caught at the different stops.
@Digby Dooright exactly
Definitely some valid points. Probably the one that would worry me the most is the shock bolt lower control arm design/location. You know that's gonna catch on something. Great video man!
Appreciate you watching! Yes I think the shock bolt is going to cause problems for a lot of people who actually take it offroad. Hopefully someone comes up with a solution.
Seriously? If you get anything hard up to the location of the shock bolt that close to the center of the wheel you've got bigger problems
I love seeing the two door up close like this. Makes me feel like all the annoyances wouldn’t be too bad for me. Now if only I could get one….
They’re pretty sweet up close! Come check it out sometime when you’re in town. I know how you could get your hands on one but they’re way overpriced right now 😂
I got my confirmation email from Ford last Saturday. I can't wait!
The piston on the rear door protects the little one from the rear door catching the wind and preventing decapitation of someone's little one!
That’s a stretch lol. It’s so annoying to open.
It was an informative video but some of the things you complain about to me don't really make sense in regards to just being Bronco specific. You ever try putting a baby Carrier that's facing reverse in a 2 door civic? You would have the same problem and as far as opening the driver's side door with the rear handle to get somebody in the back seat in the back seat I do it all-in-one motion, maybe yours is heavier because they are leather seats? I have clothe seats. Also I have people climb in the back through the passenger side because the seat opens up farther the steering wheel is not in the way. An the Badlands doesn't have sports mode because it's an armored vehicle. Badlands was my 1st choice but in all reality I'm not much of a rock crawling guy I prefer to go fast down the trails and that's why I went with the Wildtrak it's more or less the raptor of the bunch. With the Badlands you have a lot of protection underneath the whole chassie and at high speeds that stuff doesn't help in maneuverability it kind of hinders the movement of the vehicle that's why it doesn't have Sport mode.
Thanks for watching, appreciate the feedback.
@@severedhand2727 my Raptor has sport mode and I use it all the time both on and off road. And it’s an off road vehicle. 🤯
The tail gate is position sensitive Its made to do that
True. It just gets a little annoying when trying to open it haha.
@@severedhand2727 lol don’t let the door hit you on the way out 👋🏼
Let the doors open itself, don’t try forcing it, it opens to 3 locations, let each reach its destination👍
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I could be mistaken but I think you can use Baja in combination with either no lockers or even potentially in 2H in order to "mimic" Sport mode.
I think you are correct. You can certainly do that on the Raptor..When you switch to Baja mode on Raptor it goes into 4wd but you can then turn the knob back to 2wd and you are in Baja in rwd. It’s what they make you use at Raptor Assault when you jump them so you can’t get up too much speed.
I'll have to give that a try. Thanks.
If that's all you've got for complaints then I'd say the broncos are home run
It’s true. Ford killed it.
One other view of the 2-door...
I have a 2009 Volvo C30 (basically the European Ford Focus wrapped in Volvo and with the Volvo engine) It's a 2-door hatch.
I too was concerned with the car seats as my oldest was 3 at the time I got it and my youngest was just over a year. Oldest was in a regular car seat and the youngest was just transitioning to front facing.
For about 2 years, it was a bit of a PIA. My oldest could soon buckle himself in, but the youngest took a bit to get it. Both kids learned pretty quick how to unbuckle, so it was really just getting in that was an issue.
After those two years, the car has been great. Best of all? No door handles, lock buttons, power windows, or any other thing to play with in the back seat. Both kids are teens today and still love to ride in dad's car and are looking forward to when they will be driving it.
For the few years that it was a small hassle, the decade plus of driving a smaller fun vehicle with the kids well protected was so worth it.
Why not just pull the strut off the rear door?
Strange how the bolt at the front shock mount is a problem, but the fact that the eye of the shock in the rear hangs low isn't. That front isn't going to break off. It will get deformed so that it will never unbolt. When the time comes, you cut it off and replace it. We've been doing that with U-bolts on Jeep axles since the 1940's.
You will be getting a new top to replace that one. Ford has already made that promise to all 2021 deliveries. When the new one is put on - if the seam issue is still there, complain to the dealer.
Yea, the Sport Mode loss seems strange. However, I've seen that if you use Baja and then manually put it back in 2H, you actually will get a BETTER on-road performance.
The seat thing is just dumb. Maybe over time it will loosen up. And I hope people DO start to break those levers. Make Ford fix it. Inability to quickly access the back in an emergency should send flags to the NTSB. Does anyone remember how the seat moved in the original full size Bronco starting in '78? Only the passenger seat moved forward to access the back. You flipped a lever down near the back of the seat and the heavy spring lifted the entire seat up and into the dash with some force.
Will love it when I can remove my Bronco from the code 99 hold it is on and actually get it built. Not going to do that until Ford can provide everything I want the way I want it.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback.
I Think these are pretty valid concerns #1 Unprotected stem: Yes that was not a great idea Ford. #3 Uneven roof body: Such a guy thing to see right? lol but i'd chalk that up to new design / 1st version on and its a FORD. For the last #2 Baby seat & #4 Drive Settings: Yea but its bc of the model you selected Maybe & update for Sport mode coming soon?
Thanks for the video helps me as i'm looking to get one soon!
Thanks for watching, glad some of the points were helpful!
The tailgate door was designed that way (with stop intervals) because it is a heavy door. I would much rather it this way rather than have it all loosy-goosy. Swinging freely.
Yes it was designed that way but it's very annoying. The first stop should be when the tailgate is 90 degrees open.
Also, check out coderman's video on setting up 2 child seats in the back of his 2 door. Informative for me as I have two kids and a 2 door on order.
I'll check that out thank you!
Wow, thank you!!
@@CoderMan No problem!
Sport mode is the one I use most often myself. And my friend that just picked up a badlands was complaining about the same thing. 1st edition and BL is the only two that doesn’t have it.
Me too in my Raptor I love sport mode. Although I do love Baja mode offroad, so we'll see how that is in the Bronco. From what I understand other models that have sport mode don't have the Baja offroad mode. I could be wrong tho.
Someone in the aftermarket world really needs to capitalize on that front shock mount issue. Their placements of all the shock mounts, front and back, baffle me from a "design it to offroad" perspective.
Same here. I’m sure someone will come up with a good solution!
So I'm not offroading so the bolts aren't a problem, no kids and hardly use the back seats in any vehicle so good there, the rear gate/door is specifically designed to open in the 3 positions(you can always take the shock off and it would be jeep style), and my outer banks has sport mode.
Nice!
It's very weird they took away Sport mode but left it on Sasquatch equipped lower end trims. Great video, you can definitely have kids in the back but absolutely get a 4 door if it will be a daily.
Yeah it is weird, I just wish it had Sport mode like my Raptor. Luckily this isn't a daily driver for me. Thanks for watching!
3:54 you should have gotten the 4-door model. It looks way better too. 👀
The 4 doors do look sweet, but I prefer the 2 door.
No it doesn't
For the trunk. It looks like the little piece that’s on screen doors as they open and close. It should be adjustable. I’m guessing its a little resistant because if you’re in a parking lot, if you swing it wide open you’re definitely hitting the car next to you lol
Yeah I’ll have to check and see if it’s adjustable!
very nit picky
Lol kind of had to be in order to find things I don't like about it 😂
Your bonus is a feature broncos have always had
Sweet
For Sport mode, Try Baja mode and override to 2H or 4A
I’ll give that a try, thanks!
I drove the Bronco and many of them from stock to badlands in Texas at Bronco Rodeo. I think you need to go there and learn how all the tech is used correctly. I changed my order from Wild Track to Badlands with Sasquatch and i am happy that after the change to. Soft top I. Received my new Bronco within a couple months. I got a 4 DR for my dogs so not sure why young family would consider a 2dr having children. OH and the off reading with all the different models i drove had no issues with the bolts. You can’t compare a Jeep with a 6 inch lift and 30K worth of aftermarket parts to a stock model. My wife has a 2020 Rubicon and my Bronco can go anywhere the Jeep can.
Nice!
You're right about the bolt and the non-level roof. That said, if you have kids and you're trying to cram them in the backseat, I have no idea why you purchased a 2-door model. Come to think of it, what advantages are there to a 2-door model in the first place?
2 door > 4 door it’s just a fact.
@@raptorsofinsta What? lol
That stupid bump would bother me too. Top off, forever! Problem solved lol. Now I have to order one!!
Yes order one, they’re awesome!
interesting perspective - maybe try a sedan?
Nah that’s what my other cars are for. 🚗
These issues are why you wait to buy 2nd or 3rd year in new generation cars so the manufacturer can iron out these bugs.
True. But I wanted the First Edition which was only available this year. Luckily they’re minor issues.
Exactly! When you buy the first year, you should expect issues. It is sad but true.
The tailgate having 3 different stopping points is simple! Imagine being in a grocery store parking lot, and Imagine if that gate swings all the way with cars next to you🤷♂️
Great point! I still do wish the first stop was at a 90 degree angle and not halfway open. Just my opinion tho.
You dont have sport mode because you have the stablizer bar disconnect. I don't know if there is a vaild reason why but if there's rock crawl, no sport mode. Apparently you can't have them all.
Good point. At least it has Baja mode can’t complain!
You literally made a video about your complaints…
Yeah if you park off the street , this mechanism prevents the trunk door from hitting object on the sidewalk
Yeah, I know. And when you’re not on a hill it’s super annoying to open.
Nice Bronco...congrats! Ty for the thorough review too! Im partial to the two door also. Is it true that rain channels right into the cab when the windows are down?
Thanks! I haven’t noticed, I usually keep the windows up when it’s raining lol.
During my test drive, I experienced the same thing with point #4 - moving the driver seat fwd to reach the back. Not a big deal using two hands, but was used to being able to slide the seat fwd with just one hand. Interestingly enough, I was able to slide the passenger side seat fwd with one hand which makes me think it was my technique. I'm right handed and used my left hand to pull the driver seat lever (the one that eventually took two hands to move). With the passenger seat lever, I used just my right hand on the lever and was able to move the seat fwd. Also liked your point about the bolt sticking out too low and getting damaged by rocks. Would be nice to see the nut and bolt recessed.
Yeah I just wish the seat would slide a lot easier so I don't feel like I'm going to break the lever. Maybe I just need to get some WD40 in there!
That is exactly how most 2 door cars are. It might not be perfect but it’s pretty standard to use 2 hands to move the seat. And compared to my truck the bronco seat looks like it moves very easily!
Nice vehicles. But don’t ever call rain in Utah bad weather. The drought is horrendous. The boat ramp we used in 2019 for our PWC is now so far out of the water you’d kill your self falling off. Sucks.
We are in a drought you’re right about that. But that doesn’t mean it never rains lol.
its great to see you have a tesla also! I do as well (M3), but I also want a Bronco. The tesla is 4 weeks old and the Bronco is being delivered in a month. I ordered both at the same time and the tesla came first so I bought it, but I still also want to Bronco. Curious as to why you got both? I'm thinking of selling the Tesla for a number of reasons. The tesla gets much higher ratings on Consumer Reports so I'm torn because its not an everyday car IMO. I'm a family of one plus two dogs. I can see myself driving the Bronco much more on a daily basis. If you were single would you have/own both? Curious as to which one you enjoy driving more and if you could only do one which one would you choose and why? I've very torn! I work from home so gas is a non-factor. I'm afraid of high repair costs on the tesla if I ever were in an accident. Not to mention the CS issues (long repair wait times and over-charging for repairs) but I'm also scared eventually that the Bronco will be high to maintain. Thanks in advance for your opinions!
I agree the roof should be flush , maybe the locks to hold it down need adjusting or replacing
I’ll have to check on that to see if it can get it flush!
Out of your 5 dislikes my only one would be those shock bolts, its going to be a pain waiting to happen.
Yeah I can see that being a problem for many Bronco owners. We’ll see!
With regards the the lower shock mount bolts...I noticed with the Zone level kit install video they actually flip the bolt around after install to at least not have the threads hanging down. Not sure if an option without the small level kit but might be an option for you.
I'll have to look into that. Thank you!
How is the road & wind noise - ppl saying worse than the jeep but never owned either so not sure. Is it really bad or so/so...??
The wind noise is noticeable with the hard top, but honestly not enough to bother me. If you have music playing you don't even notice the wind noise. A soft top Jeep is definitely louder, and a hard top Jeep seems about the same to me.
If the front shock bolts are not stamped to the shocks then just remove insert them bolt head up through control arm. The bolt head would be on the bottom
Yes great idea, but I checked and they can't be flipped around unfortunately.
The bolt in the lower control arm will never be a issue when you have that car.. You will never drive it that hard since you almost are hiding it until you can wrap it 🙈 It is a offroader, ment for use and abuse...
The car seat problem is common with 2 door vehicles in general.
Yes you are correct
2 of the 5 relate to rear seat access in a 2 door vehicle with planned baby seats? That’s not a 4 door order right off the bat?
Thanks for watching! Not planned for baby seats, I've always wanted the 2 door over 4 door for looks. We just thought if we ever do take out the Bronco with the baby, it is a very inconvenient setup and anyone planning to get a Bronco might not consider that beforehand.
The car seat issue should not count since the 2 dr is not ideal for car seats, everyone know this.
My Wrangler YJ was my daily for a lot of years when my girls were younger. I couldn't imagine that latch system on the new Bronco holding up to that kinda constant use.
Tip. In summer when the roof comes off, placing the kids in the back from the outside becomes sooooo much easier lol.
Yeah the latch seems cheap, we’ll see how it holds up over time. I’m excited for summer thanks for the tip!
@@raptorsofinsta Enjoy her. That is the only vehicle that Ford has produced since the '70s that has peaked my interest.
So I hope they do well
This thing is gorgeous. I feel for you on being lost for words. It happens to us TH-camrs while recording often lol
Haha yeah it’s weird!
Y’all, I think they did that tailgate thing on purpose so it wouldn’t just swing and hit something near the car. So you have to intentionally make it swing that far. It’s got catches.
Yes, and it makes it annoying to open. At least put the first stop at 90 degrees so you can open the trunk without it stopping halfway. It’s been really annoying every time we open it.
@@raptorsofinsta That sucks lol maybe replace it?
Use caster bolts and reverse the direction, so you can tighten the nuts in the control arm
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Awesome content. I do not recall hearing about your gripes on other YouTUbe channels, so it was nice hearing other perspectives. I am getting the 4-door wildtrak in the same color. So pumped but I'll probably see it in 2023 haha
You're going to love the 4 Door Wildtrak, stoked for you!
Champagne comedy. Talking about difficulty putting a baby seat into a two door. Oh, just comedy gold.
Thanks Shannon you’re a gem 😂
I think your number four is something your sort of accustomed too with older models. I think with this they’re using the seat latch as just a release so you pull it and it releases then you grab the full seat to bring it forward. I don’t think they designed it to be held onto while being pulled forward.
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Tailgate issue: spare tire weight? I wouldn't take it off permanently, but it might be the weight of the tire (is my thinking).
That was my initial thought too, but the hydraulic has built in stops to prevent the gate from swinging open into something. I just wish it didn’t have a stop in the middle and opened all the way to 90 degrees first. That would be less annoying.
The door is for people who don't have kids. Or in my case it's just me and my 7 year old son so this thing is perfect except I don't like the lower control arm design but it's whatever things happen
Enjoy your Bronco!
COMPLETELY agree on lower control arm shock bolts. Poor design. Getting a 2dr when you have a child seat age child then you made a mistake. Get the 4dr. The rear gate opening has 3 "stops". That was intentional. Open enough to put something in or get something out: 90 degrees to open the hatch: full extension for camping and such. I have a 2dr hardtop and mine is not level on the front panels. No biggie for me, not OCD. Lol.
That’s sweet which 2 door model and color do you have?
@@raptorsofinsta 2dr Badlands, Area51, Squatch, Lux. As close to yours as can be had for a non-1st Edition. Day 4 of ownership so still in honeymoon phase. Less than 200mi so far. Trying to get through the break in period of 1000mi correctly, change the oil and hit the trails!
Yeah… you really did get a lemon. You should go ahead and sell it to me just to avoid the headaches it would cause. It probably wouldn’t last long with all those horrendous defects, but I’ll throw you a few grand cash for her. She might be able to get me back and forth to college a few days a week (maybe). :)
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Dude you lost me at the car seat. No one buys a 2 door for a family. If you do then you live with it. It’s a 2-door! My kids are teens and if I got a Bronco it would certainly be the 4 four. I don’t try to put kids in the trunk of my sports car. 😂
You must have missed the part where I said I didn't buy this for our family car, I've got other cars for that. When I got the Bronco I had a few people ask how a car seat would work in the 2 door, which is why I talk about it in this video.
@@raptorsofinsta no I caught that part. Why it would be a non issue to me. Those people should just be looking at the 4door. 👍
I agree they should be. But it's still a question I've gotten often, and wanted to address it.
If I had it I'd toss those seats and get 80s f150 seat redone. The base has a hinge and the whole seat folds and tilts forward. Alot softer than this new foam crap too. Add some old style polished 15 inch Mickey thompson wheels and arb style front bumper and it will be sharp ride.
Sounds like that would be a pretty sweet build!
How much better is your Raptor?! What is your honest answer?!
Too soon to do a full comparison to the Raptor. They’re different for sure. And I do love my Raptor.
why did you get PPF? Is the paint that bad? I thought only tesla's got that...due to low quality paint.
Great question. No, the Bronco paint is excellent. Our Tesla paint isn't great. I have done PPF on all of my cars for 2 reasons. First is to protect the paint from scratches, especially when I go offroad in the Bronco and the Raptor. The Tesla has a full wrap because it's my wife's car and I don't want it to get rock chips or door dings etc. And the R8 is wrapped because I want the paint looking new. Another reason is I LOVE the look of Xpel Stealth and the satin finish you get over the factory paint. I've got another video talking about the benefits of Stealth PPF if you want to watch it.
I completely agree with the Sport Mode! That drives me crazy!
Amen!
The engine of the new Bronco is an ugly mess.
Wires and hoses all over the place.
Doesn’t even come with an engine cover.
You should’ve shown the engine bay.
Lol
Life must be hard with an Audi, Raptor and Bronco in your garage. Do you have stairs in your home? Must be a laborious trip every day with all that burden pressing down your shoulders.
Oops you forgot a few cars
You should have bought a mini van
I’m gonna trade it for a mini van thanks for the recommendation
Tailgate opening that way is a safety feature.
Good to know. Thanks!
It has 2.7 vs the 2.3 I dont think “no sport mode” would bother me.
What elevation are you at? Maybe the gas spring on the tailgate is taking longer to release due to the elevation. Might be adjustable?
Not sure. We’re in Utah. Maybe they’re adjustable I’ll have to check.
I know I am asking about two different categories, but I am confused between a Bronco and F150 Lariat , keeping in mind I also have a Wrangler Rubicon, so which one you recommend ? Thanks
They're two different cars for totally different purposes. The F150 would be great for towing, having a lot of bed space, and a larger cab. But I wouldn't take the F150 Lariat offroad, it's not meant for that. The Bronco is made for offroad adventure, rock crawling, etc. so it just depends on your needs.
I mean if you already have a Rubicon, I would get the Lariat. That way you can fulfill a different role. My 2 cents.
@@raptorsofinsta thank you
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now I understand why we don't have this car here in Australia, that car is a toy.
Haha yes it is small like a toy.
It seems silly to complain about rear seat accessibility in your 4th vehicle which is a purchase you likely made 1. As an investment 2. As a weekend off-roader 3. Because it’s new and I want one. Did you complain about it in the Audi when you reviewed that?
Yes, the back seat in the Audi also sucks. Great idea for my next video.
I thought I had a nice fleet but your’s is better. What do you do for a living?
Thanks! I dabble in a few things 😂
I've placed a 2022 Ford Bronco order. But, thinking about a hybrid version. Should I cancel the gas engine version and wait for the hybrid version?
I would keep your order. I think it will be awhile before the hybrid is available.
@@raptorsofinsta yeah judging by how the Jeep 4xe and Ford Lightning are super unattainable currently it's gonna be a long while
I’m sorry but you lost me with the “ I’ve only driven it for 2 miles because I’m waiting to get PPF”…
Lol when I bought my Raptor I rallied it and chipped up the paint. Not gonna let that happen again on the Bronco!
You should try back door with out the wheel and see if it opens better? Just to know if it's because of weight maby.
Could be weight, but I think it’s just how the hydraulic is designed to stop in multiple places. It’s annoying.
do the rear seats of bronco fold flat? can the rear seats be taken off entirely? do any aftermarket parts exist yet?
They do fold flat, although they don't go flush with the trunk space. They're a few inches taller than the trunk space when folded down. I don't think they are entirely removable on the 2 door model.
If you have to put kids in car seats a two door like this is probably the wrong choice. Not the fault of the company. They make four door models. When we had small children we bought a mini van in the old days. It worked well for a young family. When we didn't have to put kids in car seats any more we no longer needed the van. You can't buy a motorcycle for your family of 3 and complain about it being poorly designed. A single guy I work with bought a 2 door Bronco and loves it.
You won’t catch me dead in a mini van. I’ve got other cars to haul my kids.
Plenty people would love to have it good gosh I would hate to sell you something. Y’all are too picky
You’re taking the video way too seriously 😆
Yeah, they make this thing called a 4-door, you might want o look into it. LOL
Nahhh
I drive a Dodge Dart that I hate and am overpaying on. Enjoy your ride
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Dude, more videos of the Raptor. I know you just added Goosetune, just wanted you reviews about it
Planning to video that soon! Still finishing up Stage 2 maps. The power the truck puts out now is crazy. I love it.
@@raptorsofinsta Are you planning on dyno after?
@@ronsouza9309 Yes I'm planning to get it on a dyno!
Is the blacked out bronco emblem aftermarket or did it come from factory?
It came black from the factory, it’s really cool.
@@raptorsofinsta I tried to make the change, but my bronco dealer said the factory doesn’t offer blacked out emblems. Is it model specific? Any help would be greatly appreciated
@@lamb-slayer1372 it could be specific to the first edition, because I’ve seen lower trims without the black emblem. I’m just not sure which models do/don’t have the black emblem.
@@raptorsofinsta dealer just told me 1st edition. You’d think that would be an option now considering chrome isn’t as popular as it used to be.
I’m annoyed by annoying people complaining about things they know little about
Hahahaha
How did you get black interior? I ordered the outerbanks and it’s all two tone
The First Edition has an option for an all black leather interior.
For the rear facing child seat issue, have you tried to load up the baby from the tailgate? I flipped down the headrests in my Jeep to increase the baby-loading clearance over the back of the seat and am able to load up my daughter from the back. It looks like the headrests are removable in your Bronco and the clearance above seat seams comparable to my Jeep - may be worth a try.
I’ll have to give that a try once the weather warms up again!
The two door isn’t for a guy raising kids it’s for a guy who’s working on making them.
Sounds like you need all the help you can get
We can’t all sit on the donut….
Yeah so we're having a problem fitting three hippopotamuses in here and I considered a deal breaker...
Is that a fat joke?
It's a reference to if you wanted a family vehicle you should have got the four-door, let me personally I believe the two door looks a hell of a lot better
@@anubistheadversary4043 Must have missed the part where I said this is our fun car haha.
Personally the only thing out of these 5 that I think would bother me is the bolt sticking down under the shock. My 2dr, when it arrives, I’m doing a rear seat delete and installing Goosgear delete kit to make the rear area one large storage area. I don’t need the back seats for this vehicle. For the tailgate, um, join a gym.
Don’t talk to me about the gym until you try and open the tailgate yourself, it has multiple stops when you open it’s a dumb design.
@@raptorsofinsta Okay Nancy
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Ever opened door, too heavy, especially with full-size spare tire, on hill or slant…Safety reasons very purposeful.
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Are you telling people about all the defects that are being found in the Bronco? Ford really screwed this one up.
Ford actually did great on this car, the Bronco is awesome.
What can i say? here in Italy we probably will never have it trough the official dealers, and boy oh boy i wish having those "problems"...
They are small problems, overall I love the car. I visited Italy a few years ago, I loved it!
The 2 door looks MUCH better. No comparison.
I agree, I love the 2 door! Looks more like the classic Bronco.
Would still take the H3 over that piece. Now that I think of it. Ergonomics seem very similar aside from the new tech. Good job 👏 gm for doing it 20 years before ford.
An H3? 😂 let’s see those first came out in 2005 and the first Bronco came out in 1965. If we’re talking about who copied who, the answer is pretty obvious.
Rear seat delete and mount the kid seats so that you can reach them from the tailgate... Problem solved. LOL
Not sure how safe that would be lol
Remove one seat.
Why didn’t you to ice this BEFORE you purchased it? I think these problems should have become apparent during a test drive.
Ordered a year and a half ago, test driving wasn’t an option.
Sport mode is a Bronco Sport option
Some Bronco models have it. Just wish mine had it like my Raptor.
Do t want to picky but really man? The only thing I would say is valid is sport mode but for that you can turn to baha put it in 2H and same as sport. If you are off-roading place your tire on the higher obstacle should avoid any bolt rubbing. Chair and baby fit…get a 4 door
actually not sure about 2H. I own the Wildtrak and also it's the only Bronco that has Baja and sport together. When you put it in sport mode it actually drops down to 4A. Baja mode is designed to be in dirt or sand if you use it on the street you may regret it damage something. Baja mode locks your rear differential and does other things 4A Sport uses the transfer case for traction on slippage not the lockers
Glad my opinions aren’t valid, didn’t know that was a thing 😂
what is the diameter of the steering wheel?
Not sure! Sorry.
You live in Utah and bought a Ford Bronco? I love Ford, Love their old Mustangs, but come on man.. ZERO excuse to not buy a Jeep Rubicon. Zero excuse.
Jeep sucks that’s the only excuse I needed 😂
LCA bolts are a good callout. Idc about sport mode
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