You can increase (shaft) speed from any motor with gears. So that request is fulfilled already. You obviously have to sacrifice torque for that tho, so I guess what you really want is a higher Pmax (max Power, torque * angular velocity) from your motor. This is probably gonna be hard with just 6 serial AA batteries. And even if you would implement motors with more Pmax then the question is if you don't easily brake your Lego parts (gears, shafts, etc). Gear backlash we see within Lego gears does not help either keeping those gears alive with high Torques. Bigger sets already come with slip gears for those reasons. At the end of the day LEGO is a toy, and to be honest, from a engineering perspective they already do an amazing job for a damn toy! Including there PU/Control+ products. If you want "more and better", you have to replace plastic with metal. Will it stay a toy at that point tho? And will it be safe enough to lay in a toy store? There comes way more into play than just 'give me more Pmax'.
@@RAiNfORAiNbOW no, like for the cars and vehicles meant for driving around. It would’ve hurt to have them go a little faster like modern RC car speeds
This is why I love your channel. You clearly explain to every folk how you come to your conclusions and not just bash on every small detail and do unrealistic comparisons. At the end of the day it's always a subjective feeling where the pros and cons lie and people can use their own brain to figure out if the price is worth the value. So please don't ever introduce a rating system in your reviews.
Love your honest reviews, after the gear swap in the extreme 4x4 I found it a lot more enjoyable to drive around and play with and reasonably capable, sure the sets are a little expensive but I really enjoy the builds and playing afterwards, I’m looking forward to adding the Mercedes to my collection and fitting the 4x4 extreme wheels to it, I’m sure there will be some great MOCS to come from the Mercedes too.
Since you add your voiceovers it adds so much to the videos and I'm noticing you're much more comfortable in front of the camera! And your speaking also much more enthusiastic now I really love it!! Btw, it would be interesting if you mod the zetros for speed (sacrificing torque) for people who just wanna see truck go whoosh
Great video, all 3 sets have their pros and cons, but for me, the price is a bit high for what they are, I'm looking for a RC crawler, so that makes sense. I just can't justify buying either of these for crawling (but they aren't really meant to do serious crawling..) when I can get much better RC crawlers for the same price or less, like the Recat Everest ($170, 1/10th), and stuff from Axial, Traxxas, ect.
I still think that Zetros has a better playability than the Volvo, but looking at it, I just don’t get it, where the 2k pieces go. The Volvo just looks bigger and better, and more like a 250$ set, that Zetros a 300$ one.
Keep it coming bro. You looking good by the way! I hope you comeback to mocks that you are previously doing in your website. You are the reason i went full lego rc than normal rc 3 years back haha.
Thank you! I'll definitely work on RC mods again, but my resources a bit more limited then before and there are sooo many things to publish about, making these videos takes all of my time :)
Thanks for letting us know, I was wondering why you didn't compare the Volvo. The Volvo is better in terms of functionality and price in my opinion, but the Mercedes is better if you want a capable trial truck that is able to climb some serious slopes and can probably do well in off-road tests as well. :)
Very sound reasoning. Mercedes definitely appeals to me most out of the three, however pricewise I'll have to go with the tow truck as it's still a very good value for what you build even minus the power functions.
thank you for your response to all the points made in the comment. extra points for that. (comparison with the 42114 with the 42129 is money and the type of parts you get with them., that's why I mentioned the 42114. and should the 42129 have been or the same price or have an axle extra in my opinion) big chance the 42129 will be bought.... when the price is dropped by around 40%. , did the same with the 42114.) again thank you for your honest videos. hope the see a lot of them in the future. (btw how are you doing at the moment?? health-wise...? feeling (a lot) better ??? greetings from the Netherlands.
Thank you! I'm doing fine, trying to build up strength and stamina. But I still have to take a nap after lunch to get through the day without being exhausted at the end :)
Now that we're talking about the differences between a construction vehicle and a trial truck: I think the planetary wheel hubs would have been a better fit in the Volvo. A large, heavy, slow truck that doesn't need a lot of ground clearance. And the Zetros should have been fitted with portal hubs.
To be honest, had the Xtreme off roader been built AS AN OFF ROAD truck properly, better ground clearance and both XL motors driving 1 drive train that connects to all 4 tyres (not 2 motor's driving the front and rear independently) it could be an excellent off road truck although the price is still a little high
You are right in comparing the offroader and trial truck for similar purposes, while the Volvo is a construction machine. So offroad capabilities or other functions are not comparable. But within the Lego world we can and have to compare prices for how many parts, functions and power components we get. We CAN compare in terms of design, functions and parts count versus price a Saturn V to a modular building, to a Technic Set and so on. Regarding this the offroader is probably the worst deal! But compared to the Volvo the Zetros is also a bad deal. Parts count and C+ units are of similar value between the Volvo and the Zetros. Yes the Zetros has four motors, but the Volvo has an Xl , a L and an angular versus the 3L and one M. And these motors are very cheap to produce anyway, I can buy a better electric motor for five bucks in any hardware store! Still the Zetros is 20% more expensive! 20% inflation in one year!??? I bought my Volvo for 175 Euro, which is about minus 30% of the list price. I don´t think we will regularly see the Zetros for less than 200,-
You are free to compare whatever you feel like, but you definitely don't *have to* do it this or that way. Remember, what might be important for you is not that important for others. What if someone wants PU parts but does not need all those yellow panels, is the Volvo still a better deal? An d of course you'll be able to buy the Zetros for a much better price in a few months, LEGO sets are never sold at RRP.
Small tires and bad clearance, i think its not a good offroader. They would made some civil truck with the Zetros and include a crane or something like the Unimog. It seems that it is about to finish...
There are no Mercedes excavators -> Volvo wins. Case closed. ;-) And btw. there is a volvo hauler -drifting video on YT, so yes racing heavy machines is a thing xD 3:10 yes, and what machines do you need to build an offroad course? Exactly! Volvo wins again! And if you compair the yellow of each model, it's easy to see: Volvo wins easily again. ;P They are all good and all expensive :
I just don't get the price tag for the zetros, I was never going to get it when it first came out because of the price and to be honest I was quite disappointed with the look of it, it's now got quite a hefty price cut but it needs comes down to £140 before I'd consider buying it.
I have 2 Volvos (one for the b set) and 2 Zetros which I haven't even built yet. The volvo haulers are supposed to do hauling in rough conditions so I wish it had a bit more torque and offroad capability. It doesn't need to have the same capability as the zetros but some so it can work in a simulated mine or something. Also the volvo is so slow that it's almost irritating. That said, the Zetros aren't very interesting to me so I'll take the volvo.
I prefer Zetros 42129 a great deal. I loaded a 9 (nine!) kilos loas on its deck and it runs on as if nothing happened, a great surprise for me! Don't think volvo is able to do something like that.
thats why its not just an RC car it has differential lock and cool suspension. Besides there are a lot of models of your type some diversity make everything more valuable
@@RAiNfORAiNbOW True, but why buy a rc Lego technic set for 500 bucks meanwhile a traditional rc car or truck has loads higher speed and is a fraction of the price of the lego set.
@@opmechgamer1431 i get what you mean but you can argue slower speed is more fun because you can find a place to challenge it easier going for more and more needs to make sense. Fun is playing by the same rules
@@RAiNfORAiNbOW I'd only give construction vehicles a pass for being remotely controlled becuase they have more motorized functions and don't need to go fast. One locking differential and little suspension on a rig that can barely go over obstacles is just a cash grab in my opinion.
I'm really not an expert in this field. I tried the cheap trucks from WPL and they are fun for the price, but those are more about speed than crawling.
My friends: what is your favorite lego technic? Me: 42114 6x6 My friends: *-nvm-* bye My friends: DUDE WTF HIS FAVORITE IS 42114 6x6 THATS LIKE THE WEAKEST LEGO TECHNIC AND THE SLOWEST And I wish LEGO had better motors and faster :’(
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"Sorry folks, thats not how things work here." 😅 Thats why I love your channel, less clickbait, more facts and clearly reasoned opinion. 👍
I really like this guys channel as a whole, he’s a vibe.
I wish LEGO could just make faster motors😞
You can increase (shaft) speed from any motor with gears. So that request is fulfilled already. You obviously have to sacrifice torque for that tho, so I guess what you really want is a higher Pmax (max Power, torque * angular velocity) from your motor. This is probably gonna be hard with just 6 serial AA batteries. And even if you would implement motors with more Pmax then the question is if you don't easily brake your Lego parts (gears, shafts, etc). Gear backlash we see within Lego gears does not help either keeping those gears alive with high Torques. Bigger sets already come with slip gears for those reasons. At the end of the day LEGO is a toy, and to be honest, from a engineering perspective they already do an amazing job for a damn toy! Including there PU/Control+ products.
If you want "more and better", you have to replace plastic with metal. Will it stay a toy at that point tho? And will it be safe enough to lay in a toy store? There comes way more into play than just 'give me more Pmax'.
I think using buwizz would give it extra power
for what? are you going to use it for real construction work?
@@RAiNfORAiNbOW no, like for the cars and vehicles meant for driving around. It would’ve hurt to have them go a little faster like modern RC car speeds
@@brianfromthirty where do you put the line you can always go faster and faster
This is why I love your channel. You clearly explain to every folk how you come to your conclusions and not just bash on every small detail and do unrealistic comparisons. At the end of the day it's always a subjective feeling where the pros and cons lie and people can use their own brain to figure out if the price is worth the value. So please don't ever introduce a rating system in your reviews.
I appreciate that, no rating system is planned :)
Love your honest reviews, after the gear swap in the extreme 4x4 I found it a lot more enjoyable to drive around and play with and reasonably capable, sure the sets are a little expensive but I really enjoy the builds and playing afterwards, I’m looking forward to adding the Mercedes to my collection and fitting the 4x4 extreme wheels to it, I’m sure there will be some great MOCS to come from the Mercedes too.
it was already clear, thanks for making it even clearer.
This is the best Lego review channel hands down, you get all the facts and Balazs is always very clear and straight to the point! 👍
I like that you say why you didn’t compare them at first and I’m glad that you made another video for it. Have a good day
As a citizen of Mercedes country I'll go for the Zetros Trial Truck. Have to save some bucks...
Pretty clear explanation! 100% agree.
Since you add your voiceovers it adds so much to the videos and I'm noticing you're much more comfortable in front of the camera! And your speaking also much more enthusiastic now I really love it!!
Btw, it would be interesting if you mod the zetros for speed (sacrificing torque) for people who just wanna see truck go whoosh
Thank you! Slowly but surely I'm working on my camera anxiety ;)
@@RacingBrick You're doing great, you look pretty relaxed in these videos!
Fun and educative videos about lego technic. Keep up the good work!
Very good video and amazing job. Comparing such vehicle as hauler and offroader is pretty silly and im glad u told that.
Hello! I'm a really big fan. Amazing content like always!
Great video, all 3 sets have their pros and cons, but for me, the price is a bit high for what they are, I'm looking for a RC crawler, so that makes sense. I just can't justify buying either of these for crawling (but they aren't really meant to do serious crawling..) when I can get much better RC crawlers for the same price or less, like the Recat Everest ($170, 1/10th), and stuff from Axial, Traxxas, ect.
The alternative build for the Volvo is an competition to the Mercedes
Nagyon szeretem a videóidat! Örülök hogy létrehoztad ezt a csatornát!Sok sikert kívánok neked Balázs.
Finally a good comparison
The Volvo is definitely more appealing to me
I got it for my birthday money and Christmas money and it is awesome i prefer it its a good price too for what you get!
Great review. Really honest
Many thanks for the video! :)
I still think that Zetros has a better playability than the Volvo, but looking at it, I just don’t get it, where the 2k pieces go. The Volvo just looks bigger and better, and more like a 250$ set, that Zetros a 300$ one.
panels
Just look at the part list. Zetros - lots of small parts. Volvo - lots of big panels. Simple as that :)
@@RacingBrick and what set was more interesting to put together for you?
@@adrianprepelita8683 for me the Zetros was more interesting
@@RacingBrick Thanks! This set looks more and more appealing to me)
2:34 42055 bucket wheel excavator: hold my beer
Mine always grinds its gears, the belt constantly gets stuck and it has barely enough traction to get anywhere.
haha, true story :)
I think the Volvo is more conceptual mechanisms, while the zetros is better in terms of practical off roading
Thats the video i wanted to see
I see that the 42124 re-appeared in the Lego store.
I still think that price of Zetros is unreasonable. Strongly overpriced set.
like all 3
Keep it coming bro. You looking good by the way!
I hope you comeback to mocks that you are previously doing in your website. You are the reason i went full lego rc than normal rc 3 years back haha.
Thank you! I'll definitely work on RC mods again, but my resources a bit more limited then before and there are sooo many things to publish about, making these videos takes all of my time :)
Thanks for letting us know, I was wondering why you didn't compare the Volvo. The Volvo is better in terms of functionality and price in my opinion, but the Mercedes is better if you want a capable trial truck that is able to climb some serious slopes and can probably do well in off-road tests as well. :)
I kind of wish that the Zetros was not a rc truck, but a free rolling set like the Mack anthem.
Very sound reasoning. Mercedes definitely appeals to me most out of the three, however pricewise I'll have to go with the tow truck as it's still a very good value for what you build even minus the power functions.
thank you for your response to all the points made in the comment. extra points for that. (comparison with the 42114 with the 42129 is money and the type of parts you get with them., that's why I mentioned the 42114. and should the 42129 have been or the same price or have an axle extra in my opinion) big chance the 42129 will be bought.... when the price is dropped by around 40%. , did the same with the 42114.) again thank you for your honest videos. hope the see a lot of them in the future. (btw how are you doing at the moment?? health-wise...? feeling (a lot) better ??? greetings from the Netherlands.
Thank you! I'm doing fine, trying to build up strength and stamina. But I still have to take a nap after lunch to get through the day without being exhausted at the end :)
Now that we're talking about the differences between a construction vehicle and a trial truck: I think the planetary wheel hubs would have been a better fit in the Volvo. A large, heavy, slow truck that doesn't need a lot of ground clearance. And the Zetros should have been fitted with portal hubs.
I dont know why, but your voice... its soo relaxing 😅 anyway, keep up with the amazing work man👌
To be honest, had the Xtreme off roader been built AS AN OFF ROAD truck properly, better ground clearance and both XL motors driving 1 drive train that connects to all 4 tyres (not 2 motor's driving the front and rear independently) it could be an excellent off road truck although the price is still a little high
is there big difference between 2 motors for 1 drive train and 2 motors for front and read independently?
U make great lego videos
You are right in comparing the offroader and trial truck for similar purposes, while the Volvo is a construction machine. So offroad capabilities or other functions are not comparable.
But within the Lego world we can and have to compare prices for how many parts, functions and power components we get. We CAN compare in terms of design, functions and parts count versus price a Saturn V to a modular building, to a Technic Set and so on.
Regarding this the offroader is probably the worst deal!
But compared to the Volvo the Zetros is also a bad deal. Parts count and C+ units are of similar value between the Volvo and the Zetros. Yes the Zetros has four motors, but the Volvo has an Xl , a L and an angular versus the 3L and one M. And these motors are very cheap to produce anyway, I can buy a better electric motor for five bucks in any hardware store! Still the Zetros is 20% more expensive!
20% inflation in one year!???
I bought my Volvo for 175 Euro, which is about minus 30% of the list price. I don´t think we will regularly see the Zetros for less than 200,-
You are free to compare whatever you feel like, but you definitely don't *have to* do it this or that way. Remember, what might be important for you is not that important for others. What if someone wants PU parts but does not need all those yellow panels, is the Volvo still a better deal?
An d of course you'll be able to buy the Zetros for a much better price in a few months, LEGO sets are never sold at RRP.
Zetros is 195 euro right now, 32.5% off it's listing price. Now would you still pick the Volvo? It's a fair comparison, both are around -30%.
I think that the Volvo is better, especially since it’s older and on sale, it’s now €180
The zetros for me is the clear winner but only if it’s modified with a 3rd axle, bigger tyres and a better body on the back
Small tires and bad clearance, i think its not a good offroader. They would made some civil truck with the Zetros and include a crane or something like the Unimog. It seems that it is about to finish...
Are u doing a review and build video of the raptor
Sure, as soon as I get it. But I don't know unfortunately when will that happen.
Can’t wait for that 👍it will be interesting
Hey Balasz do you do any specific eyebrow workouts? Absolute magnificent moment there!
Lol, comment of the day! Maybe that's my path to success, is there such thing as eyebrow training instructor? :D
@@RacingBrick Eyebrow meta strong. Thanks for all the videos you make and upload mate, quality content that is very much appreciated.
There are no Mercedes excavators -> Volvo wins. Case closed. ;-)
And btw. there is a volvo hauler -drifting video on YT, so yes racing heavy machines is a thing xD
3:10 yes, and what machines do you need to build an offroad course? Exactly! Volvo wins again!
And if you compair the yellow of each model, it's easy to see: Volvo wins easily again.
;P
They are all good and all expensive :
That Volvo hauler drifting video did not disappoint, unfortunately I'll have to sacrifice my build in the mud next time to replicate this :D
I have to choose between the Zetros or the Ecto1 creator expert, don't know what to choose
Have you got the Land Rover defender
Could you compare it to the 42070?
42070 kinda sucks a little bit
@@zaxisontherun Well, it does have some interesting functions and it is massive.
The zetros just drives and is slow af :D
I just don't get the price tag for the zetros, I was never going to get it when it first came out because of the price and to be honest I was quite disappointed with the look of it, it's now got quite a hefty price cut but it needs comes down to £140 before I'd consider buying it.
Volvo is hands down the best of the bunch. The 3 speed motor driven gearbox is just a very nice feature.
great video!
I have 2 Volvos (one for the b set) and 2 Zetros which I haven't even built yet. The volvo haulers are supposed to do hauling in rough conditions so I wish it had a bit more torque and offroad capability. It doesn't need to have the same capability as the zetros but some so it can work in a simulated mine or something. Also the volvo is so slow that it's almost irritating. That said, the Zetros aren't very interesting to me so I'll take the volvo.
Wow nice video
We’re do you get your set a lot earlier
I prefer Zetros 42129 a great deal. I loaded a 9 (nine!) kilos loas on its deck and it runs on as if nothing happened, a great surprise for me! Don't think volvo is able to do something like that.
Why didn't You try out the yellow shock absorbers?
Because they don't fit?
I hate the new powered up
Will the new Ford raptor video be soon? By that I mean in a month or less.
I hope so, it all depends on the delivery and that one is not confirmed yet.
Volvo looks much better.
Lego Technic in my opinon should just a push and roll and filled with functionality rather than an rc truck or car
thats why its not just an RC car it has differential lock and cool suspension. Besides there are a lot of models of your type some diversity make everything more valuable
@@RAiNfORAiNbOW
True, but why buy a rc Lego technic set for 500 bucks meanwhile a traditional rc car or truck has loads higher speed and is a fraction of the price of the lego set.
@@RAiNfORAiNbOW
Your just simply more flexable with a Traxxas RC truck.
@@opmechgamer1431 i get what you mean but you can argue slower speed is more fun because you can find a place to challenge it easier going for more and more needs to make sense. Fun is playing by the same rules
@@RAiNfORAiNbOW
I'd only give construction vehicles a pass for being remotely controlled becuase they have more motorized functions and don't need to go fast.
One locking differential and little suspension on a rig that can barely go over obstacles is just a cash grab in my opinion.
Are the wheels from the zetros bigger or smaller than the wheels from the 9398?
Zetros wheels are smaller than the ones on 9398
Your recommendation for toy RC crawler?
I'm really not an expert in this field. I tried the cheap trucks from WPL and they are fun for the price, but those are more about speed than crawling.
42099 B model "Rocky"
I didn’t quite realise the Volvo is so big.
Cool
The Volvo dump truck is the best one there!
For me: 12V and 6 gears.
the volvo is WAAAY cooler imo, just looks alone is a win for me
But I like off roading with construction vehicles. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Has Mercedes transmission o not ?
I suggest to watch my full building review about it
Der Volvo Dumper ist ja fast Schneller als der Zetros =x
Do you like lego Star Wars? I noticed you were wearing a star wars shirt :)
I do like Star Wars and there are a couple of Star Wars sets that I really like & have. Maybe at some point I'll show them :)
@@RacingBrick I hope so!
just buy them all lmao 😂
fanky for this opinion!
My friends: what is your favorite lego technic?
Me: 42114 6x6
My friends: *-nvm-* bye
My friends: DUDE WTF HIS FAVORITE IS 42114 6x6 THATS LIKE THE WEAKEST LEGO TECHNIC AND THE SLOWEST
And I wish LEGO had better motors and faster :’(
Sadly the LEGO technic Mercedes Ben zetros is expensive 😢
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