The Cult of Hockey's "Refs and Panthers stop Oilers in Game 2" podcast

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  • Let's do this! The Cult of Hockey podcast. By the Faithful and for the Faithful, tonight with Bruce McCurdy and David Staples. Tonight they dig into Edmonton's 4-1 loss to the Panthers of Florida with their 2 Good Things, 2 Bad Things, 2 Numbers and 1 Conundrum podcast

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  • @simondaughtry4619
    @simondaughtry4619 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Panthers are a tighter team.... Refs didnt lose this game... its a lousy excuse. Oilers need to tighten up and focus more. Panthers play is exposing the Oilers shortcomings. One weakness at a time.

  • @COCOLEAF1169
    @COCOLEAF1169 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Oilers are cooked. This run is over.

    • @happytrails151
      @happytrails151 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wrong

    • @CS97660
      @CS97660 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JoshSi19LOLOLOL

  • @roximama
    @roximama 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The chokehold on Bouchard that lasted so long was pretty brazen.

    • @oldjoe58
      @oldjoe58 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So was the flying elbow to Barkovs head.

    • @RickL_was_here
      @RickL_was_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who gives a fuck Joe. At least it was a penalty, not like that cheap shot from that goof Bennett last series.... You hockey illiterates are all the same.

    • @roximama
      @roximama 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@oldjoe58 One of them lasted 1 second and the other one lasted 30 seconds.... I get the sense that you're being a little emotional in your judgment here.

    • @theodorebelmont7922
      @theodorebelmont7922 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@roximamaseeing Bouchard tap out and the sheer terror in his eyes while he's being choked out was scary to see.

    • @oldjoe58
      @oldjoe58 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@roximama One of them was able to return to play, one of them left the game. Big difference.

  • @kinam1917
    @kinam1917 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Great takes today boys. Especially on the refs. Vancouver podcast sekeres&price has warned the oilers fans before the series started. It's about Gregory camble and the refs. Maybe there are reasons that a Canadian teams has not won over 30 years..... and maybe we will never will.

    • @melvynobrien6193
      @melvynobrien6193 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As a neutral, I think the refs are trying to help Canada win a Stanley Cup. Draisaitl should have been suspended for jumping off his feet

    • @spencergiles4247
      @spencergiles4247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve never paid much attention to fans of Canadian teams prior to this year, but with how annoying Vancouver fans were this year I decided to pay more attention. I never knew that to be Canadian it was a requirement to whine about the refs after every game. I knew Leafs fans were insufferable, but throw Vancouver and Edmonton in there as well.

  • @MADDESONCOUTTS-u7g
    @MADDESONCOUTTS-u7g 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am so sick of the passes through the middle that just get easily picked off by the panthers then the puck is going the other way. Notice that the panthers finally score a pp goal because they put the thing on net? Stop looking for the highlight reel goals every time. We won't win with pretty goals.

  • @epiphany519
    @epiphany519 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Long post follows. Read / Don't Read up to you. Statistics for Round 4 Cup Finals Game 1 Edmonton at Florida June 10th, 2024. These are "Base" statistics not the detailed ones compiled by the Cult of Hockey and are simply a foundation for reference.
    Score: Oilers 1, Panthers 4. Panthers lead series 2-0
    Edmonton Oilers
    Ekholm 1 Goal
    McDavid 1 Primary Assist
    Bouchard 1 Secondary Assist
    Skinner 25 Saves on 28 Shots = .893 Save %age (56 mins played)
    Florida Panthers
    Verhaeghe 1 Goal
    Rodrigues 1 Goal
    Luostarinen 1 Goal (Empty Netter)
    Barkov 2 Primary Assists)
    Reinhart 1 Secondary Assist
    Bennett 1 Primary Assist
    Montour 1 Secondary Assist
    Bobrovski 18 Saves on 19 Shots = .947 Save %age (exceptional)
    3 Stars: 3-Bobrovosky (.947 Save %age), Lundell (2A), Rodrigues (2G)
    Edmonton Florida
    Shots on Goal 19 29
    Hits 31 37
    Faceoffs Won 31 37
    PP 0/4 1/6
    Penalty Mins 45 12
    Giveaways 17 (13 per NST) 16 (6 per NST)
    Takeaways 4 (3 per NST) 14 (8 per NST)
    Blocked Shots 19 (15 per NST) 19 (13 per NST)
    Player TOI SOG +/- PIM Hits Blocks Giveaways Takeaways
    Bouchard 30:40 2 -1 4 1 2 1 0
    Ekholm 24:54 3 0 0 1 5 2 1
    Kulak 18:10 5 -1 0 0 0 0 0
    Broberg 17:12 0 0 0 1 4 0 0
    Desharnais 15:59 3 -1 10 1 3 1 1
    Nurse 4:20 0 -2 0 4 2 1 0
    McDavid 25:59 3 0 0 1 5 2 1
    Draisaitl 23:11 2 0 2 1 0 4 0
    Hyman 22:16 1 -1 0 4 0 0 0
    Nuge 22:00 0 -1 0 4 0 0 0
    Henrique 15:39 0 -1 0 1 0 1 0
    Janmark 13:55 0 0 0 2 0 0 0
    Brown 12:57 0 -2 0 3 0 0 0
    Holloway 12:34 0 0 0 6 0 1 0
    Kane 10:33 0 -3 2 0 1 0 0
    McLeod 9:03 0 -2 0 2 2 0 0
    Carrick 7:31 0 0 12 2 1 0 0
    Foegele 1:54 0 0 15 1 0 0 0
    Oilers Faceoffs Won Lost Percent
    Draisaitl 11 11 50.0
    Carrick 8 4 66.7
    Nuge 4 4 50.0
    McDavid 4 8 33.3
    McLeod 2 5 28.6
    Kane 1 0 100.0
    Henrique 1 4 20.0
    Brown 0 1 0.00
    Panthers Faceoffs Won Lost Percent
    Stenlund 11 4 73.3
    Barkov 9 7 56.3
    Lundell 7 5 58.3
    Bennett 4 5 44.4
    Rodrigues 3 4 42.9
    Reinhart 3 5 37.5
    Lorentz 0 1 0.00
    Foegelle gets a major and misconduct less than 2 minutes in so he's gone. The boys kill off the 5 minutes. PK is no longer perfect, Rodrigues got a tip in goal but Oilers had 34 in a row they were perfect and they didn't let any more in after that. The penalty minutes is ridiculous 45 for the Oilers and 12 for Florida. There was at least one missed call that Knoblock went a bit vocal on (Delay of Game). The boys lacked discipline. Leon with a head shot that took Barkov out of the game. Foegelle with a knee on knee hit that the Sportsnet panel didn't think was worth 5 minutes and a boot but one angle showed it and that's probably the one they saw first for the very very short review. Nurse was hurt and though he returned he played limited minutes after that. Bouchard played over 1/2 the game and Connor about 4 minutes less than that so the extra day will help them recover. The stats on this one are not good. Most area's are pretty close but look at giveaway/takeaway ratio. Giveaways 17 to 16 for the Oilers, no big issue here but Takeaways it's 4 to 14 MASSIVE difference here. Bobrovosky plaed great in net for the Panthers. Skinner didn't get the help he needed especially with Nurse not able to play fully. The Oilers did score ONCE but that's not enough and they did deserve to loose this game. Take care all.

    • @BobsUruncle-dl7cs
      @BobsUruncle-dl7cs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Excellent job as always...hopefully Knoblauch reads this and asks himself why your findings so accurately reflect what changes he must figure out how to make? Takeaways. Thats the secret. How do the other Stats we see on your list contribute to the single massive Pink Elephant in the Room? The Oilers should send you a pair of Playoff tickets for trying so hard to help them see the light. Thanks for all the hard work, it really does help some Fans enjoy and understand the game more. Good on ya....well done.

  • @dwaynesbgb
    @dwaynesbgb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    McLeod doesn’t deserve another game in these playoffs imo. Too many other passengers on this team right now

    • @joetoh6675
      @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I heard his lack of engagement was noted in his pre-draft scouting report.

  • @thatchurchguyshandle
    @thatchurchguyshandle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Didn’t feel like a hockey game, felt like a soccer game. Florida got confused and thought they were playing for an Oscar, not the Stanley Cup!

    • @roximama
      @roximama 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am hoping that they key up Holy Diver on the PA when the play gets to Edmonton.

    • @chrisg1556
      @chrisg1556 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, Bouch getting choked out and tapping for his life was great stuff

    • @frankpropri540
      @frankpropri540 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Edmonton fans are seissup!!!!!!!

    • @ssimpson5178
      @ssimpson5178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep the knee on knee looked like it was from a little bump in a soccer game ? Thought for sure he was mortally wounded , but back on the ice a few minutes later and good to go. Lol

    • @thatchurchguyshandle
      @thatchurchguyshandle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ssimpson5178 as soon as he headed off I said to the TV, "Don't worry, he will magically be healed in a matter of minutes." And presto! From a career ending injury, to playing hard again in 5 minutes. Ridiculous.

  • @darrylfischer
    @darrylfischer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The turtle Tchuck,s neck must be sore from all the snapping !

    • @etahhcumosevahi
      @etahhcumosevahi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you tried a bit too hard on that one. It don’t sound well.

  • @paules0099
    @paules0099 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So you're starting to realize that the Panthers play a style that shuts down top scorers? During the Panthers run to the final, they shut down Kucherov, Pastrnak, Zabanijad, and now, so far, McDavid. It's Florida's year to win the Cup. They're the better team.

    • @joetoh6675
      @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With their system they don't need flashy super-talents, just players with the will to execute the plan hard. Respect.

  • @joetoh6675
    @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One game suspension for Leon justified. And I'm an Oilers fan. He left his feet, and held his elbow high towards the head and neck. NHL officiating and discipline is a fkn JOKE. You do not "manage" the game and series, you Call The Damn Rulebook. Otherwise it turns into a jungle. Managing the game for viewership? Then have the refs wear sponsorship ads, no more black and white stripes. Draisaitl had no previous record. He has one now, official or not. He needs to learn how to hit legally. Other players his size do, but this is a weakness of his. I want to see him win making clean hits, not by assassinating other players, whoever they are.
    NHL officiating and discipline is turning into a stupid charade, and is starting to discourage me from continue following at all. What's needed are 3rd party assessors of NHL officiating, with analytics, as there are for players.

  • @lilgrasshoppah
    @lilgrasshoppah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    bouch gift wrapping the go-ahead goal was painful.

    • @markbeaulieu8004
      @markbeaulieu8004 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bouch has been gift wrapping pucks under pressure lately. I turned the tv off as soon as that went in!!!!! Nurse/Bouch are momentum killers

    • @ianjackson3346
      @ianjackson3346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Skinner too, at times ​@@markbeaulieu8004

  • @kimcloud8995
    @kimcloud8995 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I dont dispute Barkov got hit high but the rest of the Panthers seemed to flop pretty easily. Tkachuk feigning all night long, Bobrowsky seemed to fall whenever an Oiler skated near him, the D that Foegole hit needed help off the ice but barely misses a shift. Seems systemic.

    • @RickL_was_here
      @RickL_was_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      We already knew Tkachuk was the biggest coward in the league, what surprises me is that it's apparently contagious.

    • @frankpropri540
      @frankpropri540 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Edmonton's players are syssup

    • @DigiTiLMon
      @DigiTiLMon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. Barkov hit seemed to be closer to the shoulder than the head, but maybe I didn’t see the right angle.

    • @kimcloud8995
      @kimcloud8995 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@DigiTiLMon it was a forearm hitting high sternum but follow through contact onto the chin. Nowhere as aggregious as Bennetts flying elbow onto Brobergs head, Bennetts knee on Bouchard or Bennetts punch on McDavids face last game. If Drai deserves a suspension than Bennett deserves three. And it's not like Bennetts been squeaky clean this playoffs so far either.
      We just don't hear about the Panthers dangerous hits because "that is their game" and Oilers don't play dive-hockey. Panthers, the tough as nails team selling every contact like they got hit by a bus.

    • @charlesking617
      @charlesking617 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bettman and the US of A teams always get an advantage from the referees. Pretty d*** obvious.

  • @stephenphillips6245
    @stephenphillips6245 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That is why it doesn't pay to spend 9 plus on a 4th Dman as your number 1 ..when they get hurt your depth suffers.

    • @joetoh6675
      @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Unless you manage injuries like Vegas.

  • @Ronaldbakes77
    @Ronaldbakes77 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I listen to all of your podcasts, but come on, forget about the refs. The Oilers came out flat and even with a lucky goal they had nothing and no prospects in site. This series is looking very grim. I thought they would at least make it exciting, but game 2 was barely watchable if you're an Oilers fan and not a great showcase for the NHL. Here's hoping they make it a series.

    • @stonewalldave595
      @stonewalldave595 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If Bruce McCurdy couldn't whine and sulk about the refs he'd never talk. He moans endlessly about the officiating for any random game in January, no chance he'd be able to not blame nefarious outside sources for a Cup final loss lol

    • @Ronaldbakes77
      @Ronaldbakes77 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stonewalldave595 I like Bruce and Dave and their analysis, but the Oilers had nothing all night and that's the problem, not whether a call should have been made or not. They didn't show up for a Stanly Cup finals game when they're already down in the series. No cycling down low, no intensity, kind of like a game that might be played in January.

  • @joetoh6675
    @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By not further punishing Draisaitl's illegal hit, the league has now put McDavid in danger.

  • @sigma_curry
    @sigma_curry 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ignoring drai elbowing barkov in the face lol

  • @RickL_was_here
    @RickL_was_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Well, one positive... Skinner didn't let in the first shot.

    • @BobsUruncle-dl7cs
      @BobsUruncle-dl7cs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol lol lol no worries he will make up for it with 2 in the first 2 shots next game I am sure.

    • @RickL_was_here
      @RickL_was_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Piss off loser

    • @RickL_was_here
      @RickL_was_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bob the weetard still trolling I see....

  • @joetoh6675
    @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Leon should take some beginner North American football lessons for linemen/linebackers. It would teach him the basics of making hard hits legally. The league can't let that hit go unpunished.

    • @melvynobrien6193
      @melvynobrien6193 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NO punishment; the league wants Edmonton to win

    • @joetoh6675
      @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@melvynobrien6193 The league at least could have fined him. But they didn't even do that, setting a very low bar for the safety of players on any team. Think about it.
      As for the league acting to favor a team, that is a total crime.

  • @thekiltedzombie8230
    @thekiltedzombie8230 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The Panthers embellishment was more embarrassing than the officiating...that said the tying goal Skinner needs to stop and the fact that Kane was 20 feet behind the play still in the neutral zone tells you where his game is at.
    Heres hoping the Oilers can get it back on the rails!

    • @sukhjitsingh8269
      @sukhjitsingh8269 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Barkov is elbowed to the head, leaves the game. Leon should have been given a 5 min major

  • @nicolasderuiter1699
    @nicolasderuiter1699 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “Not a sniff, not a sign, not a scintilla of offence.”
    “Put the frickin’ biscuit in the basket!”
    If Oilers could produce goals like Bruce does witty lines, Oilers would win the series in 4.
    This podcast is therapy after a tough loss

    • @flytheskymyway
      @flytheskymyway 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed 100% I always feel better after listening to them. And got a chuckle out the the alliteration!

    • @joetoh6675
      @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In...deed.

  • @Ace96x10
    @Ace96x10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Simplify. Bodys in front of Bob, shots from anywhere and everywhere. Cant gain the zone skating it in? Then dump and chase. Oilers are faster if they want to move. Be more disciplined , stay out of the box and force Panthers to take penalty's. Skinner isn't going to be better then Bob. That would be my plan. But ya, what do I know)

    • @joetoh6675
      @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Get moving tip-ins, rebounds, scrambly poke-ins, garbage goals...Ekholm's goal was an attempt to rebound it off the pads to Drai, but he got lucky on a cold Bob.

    • @Ace96x10
      @Ace96x10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joetoh6675 Agreed Joe.

  • @chootum8295
    @chootum8295 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Refs were terrible. Draitsatl should have been ejected and suspended.

  • @ianjackson3346
    @ianjackson3346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I knew Tarasanko would be back, really milked that.

  • @jonkoenig5828
    @jonkoenig5828 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    PROTECT YOUR BEST PLAYERS NHL!!!

    • @joetoh6675
      @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, even if it means punishing your best players at the same time.

  • @Sixpoint7five
    @Sixpoint7five 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a ref. Although I ref basketball, I'm still officiating and hold all the power to sway a game one way or the other. Two possibilities only. 1. The refs are incompetent or 2. The refs are not the ones making the calls. As a ref, I know not to blame refs. Parents and coaches constantly blame refs, especially at the end of a close game. As an honest and ethical human and professional, I know it damn well isn't my fault they lost. Maybe I had a bad call or two or a missed call, but I guarantee if I'm aware of it I'll even it out for the other team. It's the players responsibility to convert on those opportunities. I always ask the coach or players "hey, how many layups did your team miss? How many bad shots did you toss up where the other team converted on transition?" I make it clear to the kids don't blame the refs. The fact that I'm human, I can definitely get annoyed by a coach or player and tighten up the interpretations on them specifically, but ffs man, how the hell you going to call that little dinky slash against Brown, and Tkachuck has free reign? How the hell 4 refs miss an over the glass call? There is a shit ton more money in Florida than Edmonton and someone is getting paid. If Crosby was on a Canadian team he would not have one ring. It seems pretty obvious to me. If anyone has some good evidence to prove me wrong I'd love to hear it. Same thing happened with Colorado vs Edmonton, same thing with Vegas and Edmonton. I'm not saying it only happens to Edmonton, just pointing out some pretty obvious examples that I've seen. I can only assume it's happening all over the league. Either way, we'll see if we get an answer on home ice tomorrow.

  • @sukhjitsingh8269
    @sukhjitsingh8269 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oilers were outshot 22-7 score is 1-1 and the fans think Skinner is not playing good, lol

  • @carsonagenic6285
    @carsonagenic6285 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    So an elbow / forearm, leaving your feet, with the principle point of contact being the head %100, according to McCurdy "might be a penalty...." I'm not a fan of either team, but come on homer. It is 5 and at least a game. Barkov was gone for the game with 9:21 left, he must be hurt.

    • @joetoh6675
      @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He didn't return because of concussion protocol. He could pass the observation period and return next game. And the league doesn't even issue a fine for that action, setting the bar very low for safety of all players.

  • @cmoneycool964
    @cmoneycool964 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great podcast, Dave and Bruuuuuuce, keep them coming.

  • @thenaj1956
    @thenaj1956 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you can tell the Panthers spend lots of time at the pool, they are pro divers

  • @hhiibbaalleerr
    @hhiibbaalleerr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am SO done with the NHL and their crappy circus. Bettman is as big a loser as he lets on...wrecking the game...wrecking OUR game.

  • @omalleysmith9100
    @omalleysmith9100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Every time Bruce says: “ Tka- CHEWk” I want to offer him a Kleenex and say ‘bless you’

  • @r0ckstarc0p40
    @r0ckstarc0p40 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Said it several times, oilers missing Kostin at minimum. When you allocate money poorly you lose good players. Bjugstad as well. Need some changes this offseason. All in all, making the finals is a huge step and they’ll get better with the right GM. Good podcast fellas.

  • @NightHawk1870
    @NightHawk1870 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Oilers are done. They lose 1 at home and this will end in 5.

  • @jasonstevenson617
    @jasonstevenson617 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Things are darkest before the dawn. We are not playing well, but we weren't at the start of the season. While highly unlikely, this is the team to win 4 out 5.....

    • @melvynobrien6193
      @melvynobrien6193 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NOT WITH THAT GOALTENDING.

  • @ssimpson5178
    @ssimpson5178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No issue with the referees if they call it evenly for both teams but it doesn’t seem to go that way in the NHL playoffs.

  • @charlesward9486
    @charlesward9486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    HAHA! 2 down, 2 to go! Oilers are finished. Might as well start dusting off the golf clubs!

  • @etahhcumosevahi
    @etahhcumosevahi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Holy shit, this really is a cult podcast. Damn 😂

  • @mathewwelsh9129
    @mathewwelsh9129 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Is it some sort of Pride or stubbornness or delusion keeping Kane on the roster for these games? I like the player but he is not able to contribute whatsoever. Then there's Holloway who is a step behind on EVERY play. And then Ryan McLeod has been a passenger for most of these playoffs. Every line has to wake up. I would love to see gagner in, and Nurse and Kane out. They were physical contributors 1 and 2 years ago

    • @joetoh6675
      @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Boggles my mind why Kane didn't get that dealt with during the season.

  • @giannicardinali175
    @giannicardinali175 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think fans are learning no matter what stars you have it's not enough. You need great goaltending and stellar shut down defense even if Gordie Howe is on your team. Best TEAM wins not a team with a few of the best players.

  • @ryansharp7070
    @ryansharp7070 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We really could use Kostin this series 😮

    • @flytheskymyway
      @flytheskymyway 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aagh don’t throw salt on the wound!

  • @AJ-ox6yi
    @AJ-ox6yi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Oilers were awful and everyone blames the refs?

  • @marcosorbetti7639
    @marcosorbetti7639 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Friendly suggestion, stop interrupting eachother, guys. Love yall. Go oilers

    • @cherylanderson8166
      @cherylanderson8166 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agree! I too have made this same comment on their previous podcasts.

    • @joetoh6675
      @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They both have good things to say, but nothing is heard when said at the same time.

  • @josefnemec1924
    @josefnemec1924 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can't to listen to Simpson anymore.

  • @dalriada
    @dalriada 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gents, why can I find recent broadcasts on SoundCloud but not TH-cam music?

  • @curtisk595
    @curtisk595 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did anyone see what Trouba did last series … and no suspension for a repeat offender, plus it was only a two minute penalty assessed … any chance the league/ player safety will be consistent? And there all sorts of what-about’isms in this game of non-calls

  • @joetoh6675
    @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Far more depressing than the 0-2 deficit, is the crapshow that the refs and league discipline dept. have let this showcase series turn into. Leon's hit on Barkov deserves a suspension, and they give what, not even a fine? So with that standard set, what will the Panthers do now? The league is putting stars like McD in danger. I'm an Oilers fan, but first of all call the game within the rules. Refs "managing" the game is refs influencing the game. Just call the damn rulebook. After that game and non-punishment of Drai's clear step over the line, I've lost interest in this series, if not the league itself.

  • @craiglefevre4087
    @craiglefevre4087 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Losers always blame the ref. The overall incompetence of the refs in these entire playoffs has been pathetic and of no benefit to anyone.

  • @MADDESONCOUTTS-u7g
    @MADDESONCOUTTS-u7g 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Panthers acting like soccer players out there.

  • @juusox9638
    @juusox9638 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Panthers Finn's are teaching Oilers some Real Hockey 🙂

  • @YoShI-oz7mk
    @YoShI-oz7mk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I still love🧡💙Edmonton Oilers 🧡💙but goddamn if they lose game 3 it's over. these next 2 are must wins 🏒🥅

    • @sukhjitsingh8269
      @sukhjitsingh8269 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's not over til they lose 4 so they can lose 1 more and then start the come back!

  • @ryansharp7070
    @ryansharp7070 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im thinking Gagner in for game 4 if we lose game 3.
    How about:
    93-97-18
    71-29-37
    91-19- 55
    13-39-28
    14-2
    86-5
    27-73

  • @jeffsaulteaux635
    @jeffsaulteaux635 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Panthers are dropping like they got shot and bounce back up when a penalty is called, but the refs need to let them play but seem to be helping Panthers by not calling it fair.

  • @joetoh6675
    @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At the start of the playoffs, I was really hoping McLeod and Foegele would make big positive contributions. They should and could be part of a very effective 3rd line, checking, hitting, defending and scoring, probably with Henrique. They haven't played up to their potential, so far. Good on Foegele for his energy, but he has to keep it legal and stay in the game.
    With a good 3rd line consistently chipping in a few more goals-for than against, the effective "nothing happens" line with Brown, Janmark and [Perry/DR/Carrick/Gagner!] would be the 4th. As for the top 6, it's hobbled by Kane's injury, Holloway's lack of experience, and lack of experience of all 6 with a physical team like this in the SC finals.
    But it's not over yet.

  • @Ahmed-oc5gi
    @Ahmed-oc5gi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oilers win in 6 !!! Trust me…

  • @mike196212
    @mike196212 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sour grapes. Oilers' goalie was weak. Get over it(Leafs' fan cheering for Edmonton). Panthers in five.

  • @ianjackson3346
    @ianjackson3346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They all think they're stick handlers and passes like McDavid, I guess it's contagious.

    • @ianjackson3346
      @ianjackson3346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Must want to be on high lights, some high lights

  • @terryprost2165
    @terryprost2165 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I repeat my previous statement/ Get rid of Nurse !!!

  • @KptKrunch9481
    @KptKrunch9481 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So not sure on the rule here but you guys contracdicted yourselves. You said a Linesman can only call a double minor or a major, yet they can call a 2 minute for clearing the puck over the glass while the puck is still in the zone? Which is it? Yes, that was a blown call. BTW - apparently the new rule for challenging is written in such a way to determine if the puck was deflected or hit the glass prior to leaving the playing surface and NOT if the puck had cleared the zone or not prior to leaving the playing surface. Hopefully that will be adjusted based on this play. Either way, Oilers were owned and did not deserve the win - 4 to 1 score flattered them IMO.

    • @joetoh6675
      @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At least now we know Knoblauch can get pissed off.

  • @ssimpson5178
    @ssimpson5178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow look at the penalty minutes Edmonton 45
    Florida 12 ? Really? What a joke. No wonder it’s been 30 years since a Canadian team has won in Bettmans NHL

    • @joetoh6675
      @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's spelled Bet-man.

  • @kenainmeshik
    @kenainmeshik 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Listen to Got Yer Back. Richaug talks about how the NHL is actually reviewing these already. He made a lot of sense.

  • @1ckmaxx
    @1ckmaxx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Get it together. Enough excuses….

  • @petetr4448
    @petetr4448 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Power play is letting the oilers down 😟

    • @joetoh6675
      @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Credit the Panzers too.

  • @DiabloManiacz
    @DiabloManiacz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bennett, Tkachuk play the grey area all the time. Maurice might have the advantage in the grey area plays to exploit it.

  • @DigiTiLMon
    @DigiTiLMon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Oilers really were stopped by the cats and zebras!

  • @garryratke7640
    @garryratke7640 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This a Canadian team what else is new in the nhl

  • @terryprost2165
    @terryprost2165 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Too many maybe’s and if’s and W.T.F. ‘ s / Oilers will try again next year / and it will not get any easier !!!!

  • @everettwells3812
    @everettwells3812 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm so sick of looking at nurse and his incompetence

    • @dwaynesbgb
      @dwaynesbgb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He hardly played that game, and somehow this is still his fault?

    • @sukhjitsingh8269
      @sukhjitsingh8269 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nurse led by example yesterday, he didn't want to get off the ice, and then he sat on the bench to motivate his teammates, maybe it backfired but he's a good guy

  • @ianjackson3346
    @ianjackson3346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you think Draisaitl will ever learn that he can't stick . and move around like McDavid? And when will they ever learn that it's more important to get it out of the zone than try and carry or short pass it. I've seen this happening too many times. And Skinner, he's not the better of the two goalies. I hope the Oilers will get 1 win

  • @superdelicioustaco
    @superdelicioustaco 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Momentum game to game doesn't happen in the playoffs and the Oilers proved that tonight by taking a momentum loss and hitting a brick wall tonight. The Finals are magical more often than not when you have generational talents. The Oilers will tie up the series, take the series lead game 5, and then in OT of game 7 Nurse and Ceci will make them pay. By them, I mean the Oilers

  • @RememberMe123-b4b
    @RememberMe123-b4b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Could have used a player like Klim Kostin...but thanks to Darnell's contract ..[ you know the rest]

    • @Ace96x10
      @Ace96x10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes, I remember saying exactly that when they let him go instead of moving Mcleod. Budstad to would be handy right now.

    • @jeremymishefske1754
      @jeremymishefske1754 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nurse is here until 2030. He will be here longer than Draisaitl and McDavid. Very said.

  • @cnam1258
    @cnam1258 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    NHL is rigged.

  • @babakghazanfari7979
    @babakghazanfari7979 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's not the shoulder, it's exactly the same injuries he had in Colorado series a couple of years ago..hip infusion

  • @settledownliberace
    @settledownliberace 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can’t blame the refs on this one. Classic Oilers fans 😂

  • @troybaier5460
    @troybaier5460 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Delay of game non call hurt badly

    • @troywaite9940
      @troywaite9940 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it must be different angles between the US and Canadian feed because the US look like it didn’t leave his stick until it was over the blue line. It was very close though.

    • @b3n751
      @b3n751 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@troywaite9940 you're absolutely brain dead lol. It was blatantly a penalty. Even the broadcast called it. Going as far as saying the rule will change next year because of this. Will be a review able play now.

    • @troywaite9940
      @troywaite9940 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@b3n751 do yourself a favor and watch the ESPN clip. And know your rulebook

    • @troywaite9940
      @troywaite9940 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@b3n751 th-cam.com/video/hRhdNsBMn08/w-d-xo.html&si=zkw2brIUE6JXIQLD

    • @troywaite9940
      @troywaite9940 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/video/hRhdNsBMn08/w-d-xo.html&si=zkw2brIUE6JXIQLD

  • @christopherzwicker6509
    @christopherzwicker6509 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ship has sailed

  • @loridamsgard5647
    @loridamsgard5647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was really pumped for this game, alas, a huge letdown for the fans as the team basically stunk. The refs sucked badly for both teams, maybe a little worse for the Oilers. One goal in two games won’t cut it.

  • @COCOLEAF1169
    @COCOLEAF1169 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Barkov a grwat actor

  • @schustererik83
    @schustererik83 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Oilers gave hockey a bad name tonight, embarrassing play and star player pulling elbow sh1t is inexcusable

    • @RickL_was_here
      @RickL_was_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Coming from a fan that the entire rest of the league calls the dirtiest.... Real rich there eh. Duh.

    • @schustererik83
      @schustererik83 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @RickL_was_here playing hard and playing dirty are 2 very different things. You may have a case with Bennet and Marchand. But beyond that I don't see the panthers going nearly that far, and ypu know it

    • @RickL_was_here
      @RickL_was_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Give me a fuckin break. Homer glasses are something special aren't they....

    • @schustererik83
      @schustererik83 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RickL_was_here you mean like your homer glasses. . . . you guys literally walk around calling one of your players McJesus. . . . .

    • @WinterWoolies
      @WinterWoolies 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shut up pussy

  • @juusox9638
    @juusox9638 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Panthers has so much depth that it's quite easy to suffocate the two players from Oilers

  • @melvynobrien6193
    @melvynobrien6193 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    REFS AND PANTHERS? You're kidding, right? Two Panthers injured by those bums. Skinner is due a bad game. Draisaitl deserves a sucker-punch. I've been watching McDavid slash people all season; he gets no penalties. Tkachuk didn't slash on the breakaway; what fecking game were you watching? I was rooting for the Oilers till that third game, and it was hard as a Leafs fan to do it; but screw 'em. A mediocre team led by two great players. As the Tiger used to say, they're done like dinner. Go Panthers!

  • @CalgaryGrahams
    @CalgaryGrahams 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly - edmonton fans complain about refs til they die..

  • @CS97660
    @CS97660 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Refs? Lmao, most canadian thing to do is blame the refs when NO FORWARD HAS A GOAL IN ALMOST 8 PERIODS LOOL.
    The last goal we scored that didn't involve McDavid was 215 minutes ago.
    Thank God Nurse looks hurt, so Edmonton can whine for 18 years about injury like we did with Roloson to cope.

    • @RickL_was_here
      @RickL_was_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bullshit.

    • @kwaty
      @kwaty 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wishing for injuries now? Okay then. Way to support your team.

    • @RickL_was_here
      @RickL_was_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not that idiots team kwaty.... They're full of shit.

    • @CS97660
      @CS97660 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@kwaty you missed the key part of that, hey? Must be that berta education where you lack comprehension

    • @RememberMe123-b4b
      @RememberMe123-b4b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Was the puck in or out of the o-zone when the Panther flipped it over the glass? Looked in to me, I didn't even need the replay. Refs put the 'ick' in pathetic.

  • @RoadToTheCup
    @RoadToTheCup 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like Florida is playing zone hockey man on man attack attack.

  • @matthewgraf9449
    @matthewgraf9449 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nurse 😢

  • @CS97660
    @CS97660 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Jack Eichel proving hes just better.
    He eliminated McDavid in round 2, then eliminated panthers to win the cup.
    The same panthers McDavid is being man handled by LMAOOOO

    • @HopefulNihilist
      @HopefulNihilist 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This is straight up hating 🤣

  • @dwaynegamble244
    @dwaynegamble244 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And who cares about penalties if your not going to score on pp

  • @ianjackson3346
    @ianjackson3346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm getting the feeling that the Stanley Cup finals will be done, and they, the Oilers, will be wondering what happened.

  • @buffalohorn
    @buffalohorn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Draisaitl should get 2 or 3 games for intentionally going for Barkov head. Dirty play.

  • @rickvolk495
    @rickvolk495 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bunch of crybabies

  • @mikeboston421
    @mikeboston421 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    any shots from inside the rink have a chance if Skinner is the 'goalie'

  • @alexmnino
    @alexmnino 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So what you’re saying is that the refs gave the win to Fla…it’s not that the panthers were better…more shots more hits better goaltending…ok that’s fair

    • @dwaynesbgb
      @dwaynesbgb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m saying The Oilers were the bad thing. I ain’t blaming the refs at all for this one. P.S. diehard oilers fan here

    • @curtisk595
      @curtisk595 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They are saying give an assist to the refs - they did not say it caused the loss, just that it was a bad thing

  • @chrisg1556
    @chrisg1556 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Oiler fans crying about the officiating. Some things never change.

    • @coreymickanuik8199
      @coreymickanuik8199 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Leafs being irrelevant since 1967, some things never change.

    • @chrisg1556
      @chrisg1556 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @coreymickanuik8199 Leafs are literally the most relevant team in hockey every year. They're the most talked about, the most watched, the most hated, the most loved, the most valuable, etc. Yeah, they're chokers, but they're never irrelevant .

    • @RememberMe123-b4b
      @RememberMe123-b4b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Rule 12 .5 in the NHL rulebook..."whilst in the fkn o-zone, if the fkn player tosses the puck over the fkn glass, shall be deemed a 2 minute fkn penalty".....CRICKETS🦗🦗

  • @shrubbber_8
    @shrubbber_8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quit whining

  • @DanielHansen-h1r
    @DanielHansen-h1r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Knobhead is terrible. Lines were a mess. He is so lost. Did you see his interview with Caplan Vapid. 29 WAKE UP.

  • @nathanspreitzer6738
    @nathanspreitzer6738 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dirty and undisciplined game from the oilers, Draisaitl deserves a suspension

  • @aaronst.pierre3080
    @aaronst.pierre3080 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honest question, who played worse? The Oilers or the referees? I'd say the referees. Everyone loved the changes Knoblauch made and so I'd like to see people calling him out for putting Dascharnais back in. Foegele just looks lost out there, mentally and physically. The team can't get anything going.
    9% chance the Oilers can win now. So it's basically already over but small bit of chance.

    • @chootum8295
      @chootum8295 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True. Draitsatl should be suspended until next season

    • @flytheskymyway
      @flytheskymyway 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why 9% ?

    • @flytheskymyway
      @flytheskymyway 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What is wrong w putting Desharnais in? With exception to getting in a psychological funk in Dallas he is a good contributor.

    • @frankpropri540
      @frankpropri540 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your a loser

    • @joetoh6675
      @joetoh6675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@flytheskymyway On TSN they said, based on historical data, 9% was the chance of a team coming back from 0-2.

  • @Cideo
    @Cideo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jesus, i read a lot of Edmonton focused comments and listen to the podcasts from y'alls market.. You guys whine a ton.
    You guys have been outplayed for 4 periods in this final. (Outplayed by goaltender for 6 periods)
    Edmonton hasn't showed up. There isn't enough to beat Florida right now and Leon absolutely lost his cool. Its ok, you can say when your guy messed up. (Maybe its a blessing if he's not suspended and barkov is out)
    But stop bitching and moaning and push your guys to be better.

    • @RickL_was_here
      @RickL_was_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Coming from a fan of the dirtiest team in the league... Grain of salt.

    • @Cideo
      @Cideo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@RickL_was_here Expected response since and confirmed my previous comment.
      I appreciate you Rick. Take the L

    • @RickL_was_here
      @RickL_was_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No loss here. Everyone except you weetards are aware of how dirty the Panthers are.... I don't really give a flat fuck if you believe it or not.

    • @RickL_was_here
      @RickL_was_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Moron.

  • @Duncs-yi8qp
    @Duncs-yi8qp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So much whining about the refs from the Oilers faithful.

  • @cliffordjohnson5602
    @cliffordjohnson5602 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Several controversial call that all went to Florida? Draistl leaves his feet to elbow Florida’s best player and knocked him out of the game? He should get at least a one game suspension for that. Also as a canucks fan, I do remember McDavid drawing blood on our best player and not getting a call.

    • @RickL_was_here
      @RickL_was_here 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Duh.

    • @BmacT
      @BmacT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Canucks and leafs fans on here bitching and crying 😢😢 get a life. Your teams suck ass